Re: payment gateways
Oh my. Guilt tripping me? hahah I'm checking it out. I'm not sure how I'll decide if I find two that are good. Flip a coin perhaps? How did you know they are in Perth? They seem a tiny bit more expensive. 3% instead of 2.9%. C# support page shows a library on github. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Jorke Odolphi jo...@jorke.net wrote: You should be supporting them - they’re the best thing to come out of Perth since.. … … :) From: Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Date: Tuesday, 22 April 2014 12:18 pm To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: payment gateways Simple is good. I did get an email from someone at eway who mentioned that its not necessary to get bank set up before using eway account. Might still need it down the track, will investigate. -- From: Jorke Odolphi jo...@jorke.net Sent: 22/04/2014 9:59 AM To: Jiri Kosar jko...@asi.com.au; ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: payment gateways Straight out PIN is much simpler - business model and API, it¹s quite similar to stripe in the US. Its been a while but last time I checked you still need a merchant account for Eway, if I was Œbootstrapping¹ a business today that was going to deliver a slick experience with minimal cost upfront - I¹d be using PIN. Eway has been around for a long time - they¹re very good, and I¹ve supported their platform for a long time (registering COM components etc on win2k) - they¹re great if you have a bricks and mortar business already with a merchant account. They also appear to have turned into the Godaddy of payments here, without being cheap. On 22/04/2014 10:26 am, Jiri Kosar jko...@asi.com.au wrote: Hi Jorke , I've just read your part about eway, Can you be more specific what you didn't like about eway api? I'm just curious, because I haven't found it difficult or not working. I'll have a look at your recommendation. Thank you Jiri Original message From: Jorke Odolphi jo...@jorke.net Date: To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: payment gateways I use Pin and its really good started out with Spreedly in the US which was for subscription management, (at that time the PG was worldpay I cannot recommend against them enough - but was best option at the time for AUD and USD billing) - Pin acquired spreedly an AU company acquiring a US company weird eh? They have a really nice API and billing in USD to your US account and their fees are pretty reasonable. Much better all round experience for a developer than eway/paypal From: William Luu will@gmail.commailto:will@gmail.comwill@gmail.com%3E Reply-To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.comozdotnet@ozdotnet.com%3E Date: Monday, 21 April 2014 2:45 pm To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.comozdotnet@ozdotnet.com%3E Subject: Re: payment gateways I've never used one, but there was a bit of hype around PIN (https://pin.net.au) when it launched. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.comstep...@perthprojects.com%3E wrote: Hey all, Hope good Easter is being had by all :) I'm going to need some kind of payment gateway and would love to know if anyone has any good/bad experiences with them. Looking for something that deals with Australian banks, as well as has a good .Net friendly API. Have been looking at what eWay can do but don't want to rush in with the first I've come across without some research. cheers, Stephen
What's a million lines of code worth?
Hi All, Collins Class Submarine - 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter - 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
Considering that there are a number of systems it doesn't seem that many. Do they include the unit tests? There are unit tests aren't there in the missile launch systems! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter – 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
Wonder what the acceptance tests on a missile launch system would look like. On 23 April 2014 10:57, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that there are a number of systems it doesn't seem that many. Do they include the unit tests? There are unit tests aren't there in the missile launch systems! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter – 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
Oops.. I forgot to use a mock! On Apr 23, 2014 1:25 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder what the acceptance tests on a missile launch system would look like. On 23 April 2014 10:57, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: Considering that there are a number of systems it doesn't seem that many. Do they include the unit tests? There are unit tests aren't there in the missile launch systems! On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter – 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
19,000,000 million lines of code for 21,000,000,000 dollars for 58 planes averages out at about $19 per line. Now there's some incentive to code fast. But I enjoy deleting lines of code as well, I wonder if they pay for that -- *Greg K* On 23 April 2014 12:51, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter – 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
On 23 April 2014 14:07, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: 19,000,000 million lines of code for snip 19 trillion lines of code? That is impressive.
Re: What's a million lines of code worth?
I have read somewhere in the media before that TDD is not even being used for the F35's development. I thought writing something so complex without it would be crazy, myself. Not that TDD is a silver-bullet, but in my experience it does make a substantual difference to quality. Hopefully they have some sort of automated testing process in place. They may have other tricks as well. While they're probably using the Ada programming language (which is known for its robustness), simple things like making variables immutable by default can help reduce side effects - especially in concurrent systems (which I'd imagine the F35 probably is) since the precise order of execution is not known. On 23 April 2014 12:07, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: 19,000,000 million lines of code for 21,000,000,000 dollars for 58 planes averages out at about $19 per line. Now there's some incentive to code fast. But I enjoy deleting lines of code as well, I wonder if they pay for that -- *Greg K* On 23 April 2014 12:51, Paul Evrat p...@paulevrat.com wrote: Hi All, Collins Class Submarine – 6 million lines of code. Joint Strike Fighter – 19 million lines of code. Seems plausible OR Over-bloated software development mismanagement ?? Not saying one way or the other, just interested in your professional gut-feels ? Article - http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2014/s3990236.htm Paul E ..
