Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Neil Roodyn
Hi,

Yes no issues with VS. I have the i5 with 8GB RAM.
I thought about waiting for the i7, but then I figured so many of my
customers have machines with lower specs and I don¹t want to build software
that only works on high end machines :)

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From:  
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Date:  Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:47 am
To:  'ozDotNet' 
Subject:  RE: [OT] Surface

So  Surface 3 can handle VS with no issues..what are the specs?
 
 
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From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Neil Roodyn
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:54 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Surface
 

I have had one since release USA and using it for dev just fine.

Frame rate for DX / C++ is not great but anything managed is more than fine.

I cannot use the Surface keyboard, but have it plugged in to a ergonomic KB
and second large DELL monitor.

It feels just like 2003 again, a slate with pen input. :-)

 

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From: Bec Carter 
Reply-To: ozDotNet 
Date: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 am
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [OT] Surface

 

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

 

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?




RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Jiri Kosar
Stack overflow is very good. Lots of answers from different areas (not 
necessarily dotnet). I do use it myself, just yesterday I have found there an 
answer after 3 hours of not too successful troubleshooting .. ☺

Jiri

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:11 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] Surface

Never heard of it, I should check it out…

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:45 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Surface


Another possibility is that people are using other channels to have their 
questions answered. I've heard of this site called stack overflow...

Joseph
On Sep 18, 2014 10:41 AM, "David Connors" 
mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh 
mailto:g...@mira.net>> wrote:
Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and no one 
wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is now a ninja 
guru and have no questions.

I just checked the member could - sitting at 322 active members (i.e. people 
mailman hasn't removed due to bounce detection).

David.





Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Stephen Price
I stopped justifying gadget purchases years ago. Gave it up.

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Perth, Western Australia
+61 (0) 428 028 599
step...@lythixdesigns.com
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www.linkedin.com/in/lyynx

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Mark Thompson 
wrote:

> Probably should have added, mine is the i5 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. The
> i7 seemed too expensive to justify, and probably unnecessary for most
> situations.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Thompson
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:20 AM
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] Surface
>
>
>
> I pre-ordered mine through the Microsoft Store with docking station, and
> it works great as a dev machine. Bought 2x mini-displayPort to HDMI
> adapters off eBay for $5 each, and am running two external Full-HD displays
> off it, plus the built-in screen on the Surface. My only complaint with
> this setup is that when running the native text enlargement size (150% I
> think), some apps look ‘blurry’ on the external display – something to do
> with Windows trying to scale the content down to fit I think. Takes a bit
> of getting used to, but dropping the scaling to 100% would make text
> unreadable on the Surface screen.
>
>
>
> Otherwise though, it’s great on the bus for doing light work or watching
> the odd PluralSight course, and I bought an inexpensive 13” laptop bag
> which is big enough to carry the Surface, related cords and a paper
> notebook – everything I need when going to clients, and so much lighter
> than an equivalent laptop setup – one of my justifications for getting the
> Surface in the first place.
>
>
>
> One thing to watch out for if running Visual Studio on it though, is that
> if you install the Windows Phone components, Hyper-V gets enabled and as I
> discovered after much head-scratching, this disables the ‘instant-on’
> feature of the Surface, and reverts it to a ‘resume from hibernate’
> scenario, which means it takes a good 10-15 seconds to get up and running
> when you hit the power button. Google/Bing for a solution, so you can set
> up a dual-boot configuration that enables or disables Hyper-V as required,
> and leave it in the disabled mode unless you really need it and everything
> runs fine!
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Bec Carter
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:11 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Surface
>
>
>
> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>
>
>
> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>


RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread David Kean
Never heard of it, I should check it out…

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Joseph Cooney
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:45 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Surface


Another possibility is that people are using other channels to have their 
questions answered. I've heard of this site called stack overflow...

Joseph
On Sep 18, 2014 10:41 AM, "David Connors" 
mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh 
mailto:g...@mira.net>> wrote:
Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and no one 
wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is now a ninja 
guru and have no questions.

I just checked the member could - sitting at 322 active members (i.e. people 
mailman hasn't removed due to bounce detection).

David.





Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Stephen Price
Oh nice, thank's for sharing that tip about the Hyper-V. I noticed mine
takes ages to wake up. Hadn't annoyed me enough to figure out a solution
but will look into a dual-boot config.

My first high res scaling issues were experienced with Samsung quad hd
laptop, so I'm glad the SP3 isn't quad hd. It's high enough to be awesome
but not have as bad scaling issues. They need to work that out which will
come with time.

Making a Difference

Perth, Western Australia
+61 (0) 428 028 599
step...@lythixdesigns.com
@lythixdesigns | @lyynx
www.lythixdesigns.com
www.linkedin.com/in/lyynx

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Mark Thompson 
wrote:

> I pre-ordered mine through the Microsoft Store with docking station, and
> it works great as a dev machine. Bought 2x mini-displayPort to HDMI
> adapters off eBay for $5 each, and am running two external Full-HD displays
> off it, plus the built-in screen on the Surface. My only complaint with
> this setup is that when running the native text enlargement size (150% I
> think), some apps look ‘blurry’ on the external display – something to do
> with Windows trying to scale the content down to fit I think. Takes a bit
> of getting used to, but dropping the scaling to 100% would make text
> unreadable on the Surface screen.
>
>
>
> Otherwise though, it’s great on the bus for doing light work or watching
> the odd PluralSight course, and I bought an inexpensive 13” laptop bag
> which is big enough to carry the Surface, related cords and a paper
> notebook – everything I need when going to clients, and so much lighter
> than an equivalent laptop setup – one of my justifications for getting the
> Surface in the first place.
>
>
>
> One thing to watch out for if running Visual Studio on it though, is that
> if you install the Windows Phone components, Hyper-V gets enabled and as I
> discovered after much head-scratching, this disables the ‘instant-on’
> feature of the Surface, and reverts it to a ‘resume from hibernate’
> scenario, which means it takes a good 10-15 seconds to get up and running
> when you hit the power button. Google/Bing for a solution, so you can set
> up a dual-boot configuration that enables or disables Hyper-V as required,
> and leave it in the disabled mode unless you really need it and everything
> runs fine!
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Bec Carter
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:11 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Surface
>
>
>
> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>
>
>
> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>


RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Mark Thompson
Probably should have added, mine is the i5 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. The i7 
seemed too expensive to justify, and probably unnecessary for most situations.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Mark Thompson
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:20 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] Surface

 

I pre-ordered mine through the Microsoft Store with docking station, and it 
works great as a dev machine. Bought 2x mini-displayPort to HDMI adapters off 
eBay for $5 each, and am running two external Full-HD displays off it, plus the 
built-in screen on the Surface. My only complaint with this setup is that when 
running the native text enlargement size (150% I think), some apps look 
‘blurry’ on the external display – something to do with Windows trying to scale 
the content down to fit I think. Takes a bit of getting used to, but dropping 
the scaling to 100% would make text unreadable on the Surface screen.

 

Otherwise though, it’s great on the bus for doing light work or watching the 
odd PluralSight course, and I bought an inexpensive 13” laptop bag which is big 
enough to carry the Surface, related cords and a paper notebook – everything I 
need when going to clients, and so much lighter than an equivalent laptop setup 
– one of my justifications for getting the Surface in the first place.

 

One thing to watch out for if running Visual Studio on it though, is that if 
you install the Windows Phone components, Hyper-V gets enabled and as I 
discovered after much head-scratching, this disables the ‘instant-on’ feature 
of the Surface, and reverts it to a ‘resume from hibernate’ scenario, which 
means it takes a good 10-15 seconds to get up and running when you hit the 
power button. Google/Bing for a solution, so you can set up a dual-boot 
configuration that enables or disables Hyper-V as required, and leave it in the 
disabled mode unless you really need it and everything runs fine!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:11 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Surface

 

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

 

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?



RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Mark Thompson
I pre-ordered mine through the Microsoft Store with docking station, and it 
works great as a dev machine. Bought 2x mini-displayPort to HDMI adapters off 
eBay for $5 each, and am running two external Full-HD displays off it, plus the 
built-in screen on the Surface. My only complaint with this setup is that when 
running the native text enlargement size (150% I think), some apps look 
‘blurry’ on the external display – something to do with Windows trying to scale 
the content down to fit I think. Takes a bit of getting used to, but dropping 
the scaling to 100% would make text unreadable on the Surface screen.

 

Otherwise though, it’s great on the bus for doing light work or watching the 
odd PluralSight course, and I bought an inexpensive 13” laptop bag which is big 
enough to carry the Surface, related cords and a paper notebook – everything I 
need when going to clients, and so much lighter than an equivalent laptop setup 
– one of my justifications for getting the Surface in the first place.

 

One thing to watch out for if running Visual Studio on it though, is that if 
you install the Windows Phone components, Hyper-V gets enabled and as I 
discovered after much head-scratching, this disables the ‘instant-on’ feature 
of the Surface, and reverts it to a ‘resume from hibernate’ scenario, which 
means it takes a good 10-15 seconds to get up and running when you hit the 
power button. Google/Bing for a solution, so you can set up a dual-boot 
configuration that enables or disables Hyper-V as required, and leave it in the 
disabled mode unless you really need it and everything runs fine!

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:11 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Surface

 

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

 

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?



RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread anthonyatsmallbiz
So  Surface 3 can handle VS with no issues..what are the specs?

 

 

Anthony Salerno | Founder | SmallBiz Australia
Innovation | Web | Software | M2M | Developers | Support

Suite 13, 2 Enterprise Drive Bundoora 3083
+613 8400 4191 | 2Anthony (at) smallbiz.com.au  | Po Box 135, Lower Plenty
3093 ABN : 16 079 706 737

www.smallbiz.com.au   |
www.linkedin.com/in/innovativetechnology

 

 

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Neil Roodyn
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:54 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Surface

 

I have had one since release USA and using it for dev just fine.

Frame rate for DX / C++ is not great but anything managed is more than fine.

I cannot use the Surface keyboard, but have it plugged in to a ergonomic KB
and second large DELL monitor.

It feels just like 2003 again, a slate with pen input. :-)

 

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Director | Microsoft Regional Director | MVP 

(m) +1 425 445 6409

(w) +61 2 9262 3386

(a)  Suite 303, 75 King Street, Sydney NSW 2000 
Follow nsquared on Facebook and Twitter @nsquaredmagic

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From: Bec Carter 
Reply-To: ozDotNet 
Date: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 am
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: [OT] Surface

 

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

 

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?



Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Joseph Cooney
Another possibility is that people are using other channels to have their
questions answered. I've heard of this site called stack overflow...

Joseph
On Sep 18, 2014 10:41 AM, "David Connors"  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>>>
>>
>> Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and
>> no one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is
>> now a ninja guru and have no questions.
>>
>
> I just checked the member could - sitting at 322 active members (i.e.
> people mailman hasn't removed due to bounce detection).
>
> David.
>
>
>
>


Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>>
>
> Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and no
> one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is now
> a ninja guru and have no questions.
>

I just checked the member could - sitting at 322 active members (i.e.
people mailman hasn't removed due to bounce detection).

David.


RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
Not sure which docking station you got – I just put the Surface down, and push 
the left and right “arms” in –the groove at the bottom aligns the SP3.

I got the Philips – fully height adjustable (like the Asus), has the USB hub, 
does 60Hz, and has the screen control buttons on the front (Asus has them on 
the rear for some unknown reason). The Philips is also factory calibrated.

However, the SP3 can only drive the monitor at 30Hz, even though the monitor’s 
capable of 60Hz

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 10:04 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Surface

Yep I got the docking station too.
Docking it is a bit weird. Slide it to the side (left to right) then push the 
left corner in to hold it in place. Works ok but I feel like I'm going to break 
something if I miss?

If you want an awesome 4K monitor have a look at a ASUS PB287Q 28-inch 4K UHD 
3840 x 2160 Monitor. Its 1ms refresh and 60Hz. I wish it was out when I got my 
Samsung. The Samsung is ok but not the specs of the Asus. It's amazing. Well on 
paper it is, not tried one. Kind of have 4 screens atm but perhaps one day.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
I have one. Get the docking station, and external monitor/keyboard, if you’re 
going to be doing a lot of work at a desk. As far as a device goes, it’s great 
if you need/want tablet functionality.

If you just want a laptop, then there’s probably other options.

I also got a 4K monitor, but the SP3 can only drive it at 30Hz, which is a 
negative that’s not for everyone. But does give you a huge amount of real 
estate.
I also got a mSATA form factor SSD to replace my old 2.5” drive – you can get a 
1TB Samsung EVO model for about $480. The size is amazingly small – probably 
about the size of two large USB keys.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Surface

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?



Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Stephen Price
Yep I got the docking station too.
Docking it is a bit weird. Slide it to the side (left to right) then push
the left corner in to hold it in place. Works ok but I feel like I'm going
to break something if I miss?

If you want an awesome 4K monitor have a look at a ASUS PB287Q 28-inch 4K
UHD 3840 x 2160 Monitor. Its 1ms refresh and 60Hz. I wish it was out when I
got my Samsung. The Samsung is ok but not the specs of the Asus. It's
amazing. Well on paper it is, not tried one. Kind of have 4 screens atm but
perhaps one day.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  I have one. Get the docking station, and external monitor/keyboard, if
> you’re going to be doing a lot of work at a desk. As far as a device goes,
> it’s great if you need/want tablet functionality.
>
>
>
> If you just want a laptop, then there’s probably other options.
>
>
>
> I also got a 4K monitor, but the SP3 can only drive it at 30Hz, which is a
> negative that’s not for everyone. But does give you a huge amount of real
> estate.
>
> I also got a mSATA form factor SSD to replace my old 2.5” drive – you can
> get a 1TB Samsung EVO model for about $480. The size is amazingly small –
> probably about the size of two large USB keys.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Bec Carter
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Surface
>
>
>
> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>
>
>
> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>


RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread anthonyatsmallbiz
Agree..i have feel the same way?  Are people still here or too busy?   Maybe 
there’s another mailing list or chat group?

 

 

Who’s here?

 

 

 

Anthony Salerno | Founder | SmallBiz Australia
Innovation | Web | Software | M2M | Developers | Support

Suite 13, 2 Enterprise Drive Bundoora 3083
+613 8400 4191 | 2Anthony (at) smallbiz.com.au  | Po Box 135, Lower Plenty 3093 
ABN : 16 079 706 737

  www.smallbiz.com.au | 
www.linkedin.com/in/innovativetechnology

 

 

 

 

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Surface

 

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

 

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?



Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>

Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and no
one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is now
a ninja guru and have no questions.


> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>

No surface, however I was going to take my wife's brand new iPad to a
meeting today to take notes, but I couldn't even figure out to close a
browser window on it, so I'll come back to the idea later.

*Greg*


Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Stephen Price
I think we've all been here so long that we no longer have those noob
problems we all used to have?

I got me a Surface Pro 3 and love it. I'm using it as one of my coding
machines. I RDP to it from my desktop (and use my 4 screens on it). Seems
to handle that pretty well. When I'm in the office with it (one day a week
at Atomic Sky) I use it with no monitor.
I think my favourite place to used it is in Coffee shop or pub (was at
Brass Money the other day while waiting for user group time) and its so
light and nice to use.
I don't use it as a tablet very often and I think that's because it is
larger and heavier than my Nexus 10 and Asus Note 8 (both by my bed).
I do sit on the couch sometimes with it tho. Battery life is pretty good.
If I tell power to use the power saver mode it was saying it had 7 and a
half hours left (and it was at 80%). In balanced it's more like 5 hrs.
Still use the power cable when in office tho.

More than ok for dev work. My only thing I'd change to make it better would
be more ram. 8 is enough but I wouldn't say its plenty.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:

> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>
> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>


RE: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
I have one. Get the docking station, and external monitor/keyboard, if you’re 
going to be doing a lot of work at a desk. As far as a device goes, it’s great 
if you need/want tablet functionality.

If you just want a laptop, then there’s probably other options.

I also got a 4K monitor, but the SP3 can only drive it at 30Hz, which is a 
negative that’s not for everyone. But does give you a huge amount of real 
estate.
I also got a mSATA form factor SSD to replace my old 2.5” drive – you can get a 
1TB Samsung EVO model for about $480. The size is amazingly small – probably 
about the size of two large USB keys.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Bec Carter
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] Surface

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?


Re: [OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Neil Roodyn
I have had one since release USA and using it for dev just fine.
Frame rate for DX / C++ is not great but anything managed is more than fine.
I cannot use the Surface keyboard, but have it plugged in to a ergonomic KB
and second large DELL monitor.
It feels just like 2003 again, a slate with pen input. :-)

Dr. Neil Roodyn | nsquared
Director | Microsoft Regional Director | MVP
(m) +1 425 445 6409
(w) +61 2 9262 3386
(a)  Suite 303, 75 King Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Follow nsquared on Facebook and Twitter @nsquaredmagic
We now have multi-user education applications for Windows 8
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From:  Bec Carter 
Reply-To:  ozDotNet 
Date:  Thursday, 18 September 2014 9:41 am
To:  ozDotNet 
Subject:  [OT] Surface

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?




[OT] Surface

2014-09-17 Thread Bec Carter
Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?