[OT] Azure pricing

2015-12-29 Thread Greg Keogh
Hi folks, anyone working this week? (if you're not, then you should be
tweaking your hobby code).

Because I get free Azure quotas as part of my MSDN subscription, and
because I never push Azure really hard, I don't have a feel for what is
costs in a typical business environment. Is anyone here using Azure as part
of a small to medium sized business app, perhaps with a SQL database and
some blobs and tables? If so, what magnitude of monthly bills do you
receive?

I ask, because more often I suggest to people that they push their apps and
work into the cloud, but if I'm asked what the cost is like I can't give
them a comparison or a ballpark figure. Perhaps someone here has had
typical realistic experience in this.

I also ask because most Azure Team news broadcast emails I receive contains
words like "This change may cause a price increase on your monthly Azure
bill" (as the last one did). I only ever seem to get notifications of price
increases and it really makes me nervous about recommending it to anyone.

Cheers,
*Greg K*


RE: [OT] Azure pricing

2015-12-29 Thread Rob Andrew
Hi Greg,We currently have a medium sized app (web site, some batch processes, 1-2 Gb DB) that was doing very little other than idling and receiving the odd data request to process. This was just running in an Azure VM. We were using it mainly for integration testing - so changes were reliant upon the other partners invoking our system.When we used the 'defaults' our bill was close to $200 / month. I was rather astounded at the cost - I can get a full VM in a DC in AU for < $90 /mth, probably better if I hunted around. But doing a lot of hunting around I managed to move us to a smaller plan and we are down to closer to $20 / month which is more what I expected given our load. Two things that hit me while doing this :* It's rather difficult to figure out where your costs are, and how to lower them / control them.* There are a lot of options that you are given by default that you dont need (but I think a lot of that is just us learning the ropes). * Azure SQL is not the full SQL Server :) [that caught us]. Anyhow - just our experiences...
Rob Andrew 
AEGIS SOFTWORKS PTY LTD
- Original Message - From: Greg Keogh [mailto:gfke...@gmail.com] To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Sent: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:15:33 +1100 Subject: 

Hi folks, anyone working this week? (if you're not, then you should be tweaking your hobby code).
 
Because I get free Azure quotas as part of my MSDN subscription, and because I never push Azure really hard, I don't have a feel for what is costs in a typical business environment. Is anyone here using Azure as part of a small to medium sized business app, perhaps with a SQL database and some blobs and tables? If so, what magnitude of monthly bills do you receive?
 
I ask, because more often I suggest to people that they push their apps and work into the cloud, but if I'm asked what the cost is like I can't give them a comparison or a ballpark figure. Perhaps someone here has had typical realistic experience in this.
 
I also ask because most Azure Team news broadcast emails I receive contains words like "This change may cause a price increase on your monthly Azure bill" (as the last one did). I only ever seem to get notifications of price increases and it really makes me nervous about recommending it to anyone.
 
Cheers,
Greg K




Re: [OT] Azure pricing

2015-12-29 Thread 罗格雷格博士
I see a lot of small companies using a basic web tier (up to 10 sites) and an 
S1 Azure SQL DB, with monthly costs around $114 AUD.

You can't directly compare it with a VM as that both requires management, etc 
plus doesn't have built in HA options. PaaS is the future not IaaS, which is 
really just an interim use of cloud systems.

Regards

Greg

Dr Greg Low
SQL Down Under
+61 419201410
1300SQLSQL (1300775775)

On 30 Dec 2015, at 10:24 AM, Rob Andrew 
> wrote:

Hi Greg,

We currently have a medium sized app (web site, some batch processes, 1-2 Gb 
DB) that was doing very little other than idling and receiving the odd data 
request to process. This was just running in an Azure VM.

We were using it mainly for integration testing - so changes were reliant upon 
the other partners invoking our system.

When we used the 'defaults' our bill was close to $200 / month. I was rather 
astounded at the cost - I can get a full VM in a DC in AU for < $90 /mth, 
probably better if I hunted around.

But doing a lot of hunting around I managed to move us to a smaller plan and we 
are down to closer to $20 / month which is more what I expected given our load.

Two things that hit me while doing this :

* It's rather difficult to figure out where your costs are, and how to lower 
them / control them.
* There are a lot of options that you are given by default that you dont need 
(but I think a lot of that is just us learning the ropes).
* Azure SQL is not the full SQL Server :) [that caught us].

Anyhow - just our experiences...

Rob Andrew

AEGIS SOFTWORKS PTY LTD


- Original Message -
From: Greg Keogh [mailto:gfke...@gmail.com]
To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
Sent: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:15:33 +1100
Subject:

Hi folks, anyone working this week? (if you're not, then you should be tweaking 
your hobby code).

Because I get free Azure quotas as part of my MSDN subscription, and because I 
never push Azure really hard, I don't have a feel for what is costs in a 
typical business environment. Is anyone here using Azure as part of a small to 
medium sized business app, perhaps with a SQL database and some blobs and 
tables? If so, what magnitude of monthly bills do you receive?

I ask, because more often I suggest to people that they push their apps and 
work into the cloud, but if I'm asked what the cost is like I can't give them a 
comparison or a ballpark figure. Perhaps someone here has had typical realistic 
experience in this.

I also ask because most Azure Team news broadcast emails I receive contains 
words like "This change may cause a price increase on your monthly Azure bill" 
(as the last one did). I only ever seem to get notifications of price increases 
and it really makes me nervous about recommending it to anyone.

Cheers,
Greg K


Re: [OT] Azure pricing

2015-12-29 Thread Craig van Nieuwkerk
We run www.youreontime.com on it and it costs about $350 per month. This
includes SQL Azure S2, 2 x Standard WebApps, several shared WebApps, Redis
Cache, 1 x Small VM and heaps of blog and table storage.

Craig

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Hi folks, anyone working this week? (if you're not, then you should be
> tweaking your hobby code).
>
> Because I get free Azure quotas as part of my MSDN subscription, and
> because I never push Azure really hard, I don't have a feel for what is
> costs in a typical business environment. Is anyone here using Azure as part
> of a small to medium sized business app, perhaps with a SQL database and
> some blobs and tables? If so, what magnitude of monthly bills do you
> receive?
>
> I ask, because more often I suggest to people that they push their apps
> and work into the cloud, but if I'm asked what the cost is like I can't
> give them a comparison or a ballpark figure. Perhaps someone here has had
> typical realistic experience in this.
>
> I also ask because most Azure Team news broadcast emails I receive
> contains words like "This change may cause a price increase on your monthly
> Azure bill" (as the last one did). I only ever seem to get notifications of
> price increases and it really makes me nervous about recommending it to
> anyone.
>
> Cheers,
> *Greg K*
>