Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self respecting Dev should know these days?

[Stephen Price]

Yes, I'm currently working on an Android application which is part of a product 
suite.


The work going on in the Xamarin space is very active. Many new features and 
bug fixes coming out regularly.

Mature is a relative term I think. If you compare Xamarin with other frameworks 
that have been around longer and are relatively slow moving (ie say WPF) then 
yeah you could say its less mature.


If you want stable, then I would say that is there. The stable releases are 
stable enough to use in production. Perfect? No, but each new release is more 
stable than the last. Currently seeing several releases per month. Show stopper 
bugs are unusual.


Looking at your post about getting into web technologies, I would say that it 
would be difficult as a developer today to be able to be all over Web 
technologies as well as Xamarin/mobile. Throw desktop into that and you further 
dilute your skill focus. I have worked with all of these, desktop, web and 
mobile. My experience is if you focus on one of them, keeping up to date, then 
you miss things in the others. Last year I was working on Angular 2 (about the 
time it released, I was using the final RC's) and I don't even know what 
version it's at now.


It takes a lot of time to keep up to speed with so many fast moving fronts. The 
more time you have available the more of them you can keep on top off. I guess 
it comes down to your personal interests and goals on which you focus on. Which 
do you enjoy the most? Do you contract or permanent? Do you enjoy going deep on 
one technology or like to spread your skills across many different 
technologies? If you do go deep on one, then that will take you away from 
others.


Do what you love, you will do way better at it and it won't even feel like 
work. Changing from one technology to another can take time as employers tend 
to hire people with experience. I think you are on the right path finding out 
the must haves to learn, but finding the "right" one might be a much harder 
task as there are so many. In all my years as a developer,  I've never seen two 
projects using identical technology stacks. Even when you compare two Angular 
projects, or whatever.

That's gotta make choosing what to learn so much harder.


cheers

Stephen




From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  on behalf 
of Preet Sangha 
Sent: Sunday, 18 June 2017 9:59:16 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self respecting Dev 
should know these days?

Are the. Net core skills in demand where you guys are based? Is anyone doing 
commercial projects in the portable technologies?

I've read about people experience of xamarin on the list and it doesn't seem to 
resonate as mature technology.

On 16/06/2017 11:00 pm, "Preet Sangha" 
> wrote:
Cheers. I appreciate the feedback.

regards,
Preet, in Auckland NZ


On 16 June 2017 at 20:07, Bec C 
> wrote:
Melb market is also filled with Dynamics and Sitecore work.

But as .net dude said JS is where it's all at. I found it very hard to get work 
in Melb with no Angular or React experience.

"Full stack" they usually want Angular or React, css, webapi, entity framework, 
sql server.


On Friday, 16 June 2017, DotNet Dude  wrote:
Hey Preet,

Generally, Azure and JS frameworks like React and Angular is where "it" is 
mostly at these days as far as general .net wed dev goes. It also depends on 
location from my experience. I'm not familiar with the Auckland market at all. 
In Melbourne most of the maintenance work is in mvc, very little if any 
webforms, LOTS of Angular/React/whatever JS framework. Same for Sydney. 
Canberra is mostly webforms and mvc from what I know (govt is usually a bit 
behind), Qld and WA I am not sure about.

If you're wanting to get back into web dev I would ask you why. Not joking. :) 
If your reason is because you want to update and get back into it I'd say go 
hard on Javascript. If you're after money I'd say forget all that and get into 
Salesforce lol. Kidding. Well not really. As I said earlier you need to know 
your market too if you're wanting to be valuable (hireable).

Cheers

On Friday, 16 June 2017, Preet Sangha  wrote:
Hi team,

Got Friday OT question for you all.  I started .net with the beta and used aspx 
all those years ago. I stayed with ASPX until about 2007 but about then I moved 
into doing more desktop development. I'd really like to dust off and polish my 
web dev skills but there seems to be a plethora of things that have sort of 
past me by Azure, Javascript, Angular (?) to name a few.

I know that fair few of you do web dev so i was wondering what you could advise 
as the must have skills today!

Just to give you a history, from 2007 I did WCF/WF & WPF type stuff, from 2010 
I did more Cubes and 

Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self respecting Dev should know these days?

[Greg Keogh]

>
> I've read about people experience of xamarin on the list and it doesn't
> seem to resonate as mature technology.
>

It's slowly improving, and you get used to it. It's still faster and easier
to write C# and XAML than it would be to write and maintain wildly
differing native projects -- *GK*

Re: What are the WebDev technologies that any self respecting Dev should know these days?

[Preet Sangha]

Are the. Net core skills in demand where you guys are based? Is anyone
doing commercial projects in the portable technologies?

I've read about people experience of xamarin on the list and it doesn't
seem to resonate as mature technology.

On 16/06/2017 11:00 pm, "Preet Sangha"  wrote:

> Cheers. I appreciate the feedback.
>
> regards,
> Preet, in Auckland NZ
>
>
> On 16 June 2017 at 20:07, Bec C  wrote:
>
>> Melb market is also filled with Dynamics and Sitecore work.
>>
>> But as .net dude said JS is where it's all at. I found it very hard to
>> get work in Melb with no Angular or React experience.
>>
>> "Full stack" they usually want Angular or React, css, webapi, entity
>> framework, sql server.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, DotNet Dude  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Preet,
>>>
>>> Generally, Azure and JS frameworks like React and Angular is where "it"
>>> is mostly at these days as far as general .net wed dev goes. It
>>> also depends on location from my experience. I'm not familiar with the
>>> Auckland market at all. In Melbourne most of the maintenance work is in
>>> mvc, very little if any webforms, LOTS of Angular/React/whatever JS
>>> framework. Same for Sydney. Canberra is mostly webforms and mvc from what I
>>> know (govt is usually a bit behind), Qld and WA I am not sure about.
>>>
>>> If you're wanting to get back into web dev I would ask you why. Not
>>> joking. :) If your reason is because you want to update and get back into
>>> it I'd say go hard on Javascript. If you're after money I'd say forget all
>>> that and get into Salesforce lol. Kidding. Well not really. As I said
>>> earlier you need to know your market too if you're wanting to be valuable
>>> (hireable).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Friday, 16 June 2017, Preet Sangha  wrote:
>>>
 Hi team,

 Got Friday OT question for you all.  I started .net with the beta and
 used aspx all those years ago. I stayed with ASPX until about 2007 but
 about then I moved into doing more desktop development. I'd really like to
 dust off and polish my web dev skills but there seems to be a plethora of
 things that have sort of past me by Azure, Javascript, Angular (?) to name
 a few.

 I know that fair few of you do web dev so i was wondering what you
 could advise as the must have skills today!

 Just to give you a history, from 2007 I did WCF/WF & WPF type stuff,
 from 2010 I did more Cubes and SSRS BI stuff and for the past couple of
 years I've been doing pure legacy desktop C++/CLI/.Net so not a lot of
 webbie stuff at all :-)


 regards,
 Preet, in Auckland NZ


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