RE: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

2016-02-02 Thread Stephen Price
I have this motherboard https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/RAMPAGE_V_EXTREME/
which uses LGA 2013-v3 socket. The main reason I went with this bad boy, was 
due to the memory configuration. DDR4, yes (not sure about DDR3, I don’t think 
it does either... just DDR4 looking at the specs). Not just that though, but 
you can put in 8 x DIMM which means you can have 64Gb of RAM. (which I do).

Also has an on board M.2 Socket (not two unfortunately but I imagine 2016 
updated version will be better?)
I have 4 SSD’s in Raid 0 as my system drive which is almost as fast as my Raid 
0 M2 Pcie drive (two ssd cards on Pcie boards).
I couldn’t do 4 drives on the older IV extreme I had before this one.
Cheers
Stephen

From: Ian Thomas<mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2016 12:55 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: RE: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

Nathan, you’re right the LGA 1151 boards for Skylake particularly its latest 
iteration Z170 is a better choice. And it shows how long ago I seriously looked 
at the DDR4 RAM prices.
My research tells me that DDR4 doesn’t yet give much performance improvement 
(leave that aside), but it’s interesting that 
UniDIMM<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniDIMM> makes it possible to run either 
DDR3 or DDR4 in the newer boards (ie, Skylake), not both at once.
There’s also an Asrock board that does both DDR3 and DDR4 (Asrock B150M 
Combo-G) which I wouldn’t buy – probably N/A here in Australia anyway.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2016 2:29 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

I've been looking at refreshing my system as well. I'm not sure why you'd 
consider a Haswell system over SkyLake?

The price difference between something like an Intel i5-4590 (Haswell) and an 
Intel i5-6500 (Skylake) is ~$15.
And the price difference between 8GB of DDR3 (1600Mhz) and 8GB of DDR4 
(2133Mhz) is ~$20 (at least for Kingston).

I don't know where you're shopping to see three-fold price differences.




On 2 February 2016 at 19:51, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I’m a bit ignorant of this, being a “slow adopter” – so would appreciate some 
opinions.
 Apart from being ready for another self-build, a 15yo releative is keen to 
build himself a gaming PC that will last a few years [his choice of graphics 
card is based on the Nvidia GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 chipset, which is expensive: the 
Asus ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970, (Base: 1140MHz, Boost: 1279MHz), 4096MB 
(7010MHz) GDDR5, PCIE3.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort  i over $500 at a couple 
of places I’ve checked].
Someone was telling me that the LGA 2011-3 supports both DDR3 and DDR4 RAM, and 
there are some motherboards about that have slots for both types of memory.
Is that right?
The socket is used for the Intel Haswell-E and Haswell-EP CPUs. It was released 
in 2014 so now there should be some manufacturers supporting motherboard builds 
for people like me who would stuff it with DDR3 until the cost of DDR4 comes 
down by a factor of 3 or so ..

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia





RE: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

2016-02-02 Thread Ian Thomas
Nathan, you’re right the LGA 1151 boards for Skylake particularly its latest 
iteration Z170 is a better choice. And it shows how long ago I seriously looked 
at the DDR4 RAM prices. 

My research tells me that DDR4 doesn’t yet give much performance improvement 
(leave that aside), but it’s interesting that UniDIMM 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniDIMM>  makes it possible to run either DDR3 
or DDR4 in the newer boards (ie, Skylake), not both at once.

There’s also an Asrock board that does both DDR3 and DDR4 (Asrock B150M 
Combo-G) which I wouldn’t buy – probably N/A here in Australia anyway. 

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Nathan Schultz
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2016 2:29 PM
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

 

I've been looking at refreshing my system as well. I'm not sure why you'd 
consider a Haswell system over SkyLake?

 

The price difference between something like an Intel i5-4590 (Haswell) and an 
Intel i5-6500 (Skylake) is ~$15.

And the price difference between 8GB of DDR3 (1600Mhz) and 8GB of DDR4 
(2133Mhz) is ~$20 (at least for Kingston).

 

I don't know where you're shopping to see three-fold price differences.

 

 

 

 

On 2 February 2016 at 19:51, Ian Thomas mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I’m a bit ignorant of this, being a “slow adopter” – so would appreciate some 
opinions. 

 Apart from being ready for another self-build, a 15yo releative is keen to 
build himself a gaming PC that will last a few years [his choice of graphics 
card is based on the Nvidia GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 chipset, which is expensive: the 
Asus ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970, (Base: 1140MHz, Boost: 1279MHz), 4096MB 
(7010MHz) GDDR5, PCIE3.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort  i over $500 at a couple 
of places I’ve checked].

Someone was telling me that the LGA 2011-3 supports both DDR3 and DDR4 RAM, and 
there are some motherboards about that have slots for both types of memory. 

Is that right? 

The socket is used for the Intel Haswell-E and Haswell-EP CPUs. It was released 
in 2014 so now there should be some manufacturers supporting motherboard builds 
for people like me who would stuff it with DDR3 until the cost of DDR4 comes 
down by a factor of 3 or so ..

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

 

 



Re: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

2016-02-02 Thread Greg Keogh
Just on the hardware subject ... That new PC I had last week where the
video was dead was examined more closely by my friend, who was bewildered
by what was wrong. In frustration he reset the CMOS, then everything
started working normally -- *GK*

On 3 February 2016 at 14:28, Nathan Schultz  wrote:

> I've been looking at refreshing my system as well. I'm not sure why you'd
> consider a Haswell system over SkyLake?
>
> The price difference between something like an Intel i5-4590 (Haswell) and
> an Intel i5-6500 (Skylake) is ~$15.
> And the price difference between 8GB of DDR3 (1600Mhz) and 8GB of DDR4
> (2133Mhz) is ~$20 (at least for Kingston).
>
> I don't know where you're shopping to see three-fold price differences.
>
>
>
>
> On 2 February 2016 at 19:51, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>
>> I’m a bit ignorant of this, being a “slow adopter” – so would appreciate
>> some opinions.
>>
>>  Apart from being ready for another self-build, a 15yo releative is keen
>> to build himself a gaming PC that will last a few years [his choice of
>> graphics card is based on the Nvidia GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 chipset, which is
>> expensive: the Asus ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970, (Base: 1140MHz, Boost:
>> 1279MHz), 4096MB (7010MHz) GDDR5, PCIE3.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort  i
>> over $500 at a couple of places I’ve checked].
>>
>> Someone was telling me that the LGA 2011-3 supports both DDR3 and DDR4
>> RAM, and there are some motherboards about that have slots for both types
>> of memory.
>>
>> Is that right?
>>
>> The socket is used for the Intel Haswell-E and Haswell-EP CPUs. It was
>> released in 2014 so now there should be some manufacturers supporting
>> motherboard builds for people like me who would stuff it with DDR3 until
>> the cost of DDR4 comes down by a factor of 3 or so ..
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>>
>> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>>
>>
>>
>
>


Re: [OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

2016-02-02 Thread Nathan Schultz
I've been looking at refreshing my system as well. I'm not sure why you'd
consider a Haswell system over SkyLake?

The price difference between something like an Intel i5-4590 (Haswell) and
an Intel i5-6500 (Skylake) is ~$15.
And the price difference between 8GB of DDR3 (1600Mhz) and 8GB of DDR4
(2133Mhz) is ~$20 (at least for Kingston).

I don't know where you're shopping to see three-fold price differences.




On 2 February 2016 at 19:51, Ian Thomas  wrote:

> I’m a bit ignorant of this, being a “slow adopter” – so would appreciate
> some opinions.
>
>  Apart from being ready for another self-build, a 15yo releative is keen
> to build himself a gaming PC that will last a few years [his choice of
> graphics card is based on the Nvidia GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 chipset, which is
> expensive: the Asus ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970, (Base: 1140MHz, Boost:
> 1279MHz), 4096MB (7010MHz) GDDR5, PCIE3.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort  i
> over $500 at a couple of places I’ve checked].
>
> Someone was telling me that the LGA 2011-3 supports both DDR3 and DDR4
> RAM, and there are some motherboards about that have slots for both types
> of memory.
>
> Is that right?
>
> The socket is used for the Intel Haswell-E and Haswell-EP CPUs. It was
> released in 2014 so now there should be some manufacturers supporting
> motherboard builds for people like me who would stuff it with DDR3 until
> the cost of DDR4 comes down by a factor of 3 or so ..
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>


[OT] New PC - Intel LGA 2011-3 socket boards

2016-02-02 Thread Ian Thomas
I'm a bit ignorant of this, being a "slow adopter" - so would appreciate
some opinions. 

 Apart from being ready for another self-build, a 15yo releative is keen to
build himself a gaming PC that will last a few years [his choice of graphics
card is based on the Nvidia GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 chipset, which is expensive:
the Asus ASUS STRIX GeForce GTX 970, (Base: 1140MHz, Boost: 1279MHz), 4096MB
(7010MHz) GDDR5, PCIE3.0, Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort  i over $500 at a
couple of places I've checked].

Someone was telling me that the LGA 2011-3 supports both DDR3 and DDR4 RAM,
and there are some motherboards about that have slots for both types of
memory. 

Is that right? 

The socket is used for the Intel Haswell-E and Haswell-EP CPUs. It was
released in 2014 so now there should be some manufacturers supporting
motherboard builds for people like me who would stuff it with DDR3 until the
cost of DDR4 comes down by a factor of 3 or so ..

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia