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Yep they were really good. They seem like a small shop but all emails were answered promptly and when I initially bought the machine, I paid (I think) $1800 for it (received machine and all good), then they (affordablelaptops) said their supplier made a small error in price and I was supposed to pay only $1740 (or something like that) and so they sent me a credit. They did this without any contact from me and did it proactively which I think is really good. -Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 5:57 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Thanks Glav. Somebody recommended affordablelaptops last week but I couldn't recall the name. Have you had any experience with their warranty/service? Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 17:52, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.com mailto:subscripti...@theglavs.com wrote: Highly recommend the Gigabyte P34v2 (I bought mine from Afforable Laptops www.affordablelaptops.com.au http://www.affordablelaptops.com.au ) Specs are: *I7-4700HQ (Up to 3.4Ghz) *16Gb memory *256 Gb SSD *Dedicated Gfx card (Nvidia Geforce GTX 860M with 2 or 4Gb GDDR memory – can’t remember) in addition to the Intel 4600 (switches to 4600 in battery mode) *About 1.7Kg *Battery life is great. Its actually a gaming rig but very thin and light. -Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com mailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com mailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com mailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also
RE: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
I bought a gaming laptop from Affordable Laptops a couple of years ago. One of the memory sticks was defective and the warranty support was great – I could have sent the whole laptop back for them to replace but after discussion and I told them I’d build lots of PCs over the years they sent a new module which I installed myself and posted back the defective one. All at no cost to me and no fuss. Reccomended. Regards, Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 12:27 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Thanks Glav. Somebody recommended affordablelaptops last week but I couldn't recall the name. Have you had any experience with their warranty/service? Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 17:52, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.commailto:subscripti...@theglavs.com wrote: Highly recommend the Gigabyte P34v2 (I bought mine from Afforable Laptops www.affordablelaptops.com.auhttp://www.affordablelaptops.com.au ) Specs are: •I7-4700HQ (Up to 3.4Ghz) •16Gb memory •256 Gb SSD •Dedicated Gfx card (Nvidia Geforce GTX 860M with 2 or 4Gb GDDR memory – can’t remember) in addition to the Intel 4600 (switches to 4600 in battery mode) •About 1.7Kg •Battery life is great. Its actually a gaming rig but very thin and light. -Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.commailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.commailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.commailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First
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Great they sound legit. Thanks Tom On 28 November 2014 at 16:01, ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: I bought a gaming laptop from Affordable Laptops a couple of years ago. One of the memory sticks was defective and the warranty support was great – I could have sent the whole laptop back for them to replace but after discussion and I told them I’d build lots of PCs over the years they sent a new module which I installed myself and posted back the defective one. All at no cost to me and no fuss. Reccomended. Regards, Ben *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Thursday, 27 November 2014 12:27 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Thanks Glav. Somebody recommended affordablelaptops last week but I couldn't recall the name. Have you had any experience with their warranty/service? Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 17:52, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.com wrote: Highly recommend the Gigabyte P34v2 (I bought mine from Afforable Laptops www.affordablelaptops.com.au ) Specs are: ·I7-4700HQ (Up to 3.4Ghz) ·16Gb memory ·256 Gb SSD ·Dedicated Gfx card (Nvidia Geforce GTX 860M with 2 or 4Gb GDDR memory – can’t remember) in addition to the Intel 4600 (switches to 4600 in battery mode) ·About 1.7Kg ·Battery life is great. Its actually a gaming rig but very thin and light. -Glav *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:00 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take
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Also, I propose we rename the list into the OzDevLaptop elist, and make .Net coding questions [OT]. We talk about dev rigs more often than coding. Is it Friday yet? On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: In Australia not in NZ so didn't see it. Read reviews and it's even better. The ability to turn it into a tablet and the screen resolution are phenomenal. On 26 Nov 2014 20:27, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave Thanks I will check it out. I see there's a Yoga 3 also. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 18:14, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Lenovo yoga 2 pro are awesome. Well worth checking out. On 26 Nov 2014 19:50, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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That's 33% more than my new 15 inch macbook with 512 ssd. Ouch. On 26 Nov 2014 21:18, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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My quick eval of the Lenovo models really attracts me to them. But I am surprised that Yoga 2 and 3 both have only 8Gb max RAM, and the 3 has slower Core M processor and 2 hours less battery life than its predecessor. Otherwise, both seem to be very nice tablet/PC with Win8.1 touch. Mini HDMI is a bonus, 3200x1800 is a nice resolution for 13.3 screen and only 1.19/1.36kg - impressive. The newer model has dual-band ac wireless, nicer than wireless n on the Yoga 2. Prices I see are $1800 to $2300 depending on CPU and SSD. My eyesight needs a 13 screen I reckon, so these Lenovo machines appeal over Surface Pro 3 - though more $ for Lenovos. I seem to have a 4 year turnover, so these attract me now. Surface Pro 3 almost does... Ian Thomas Sent from my Nokia Lumia 920 - Windows Phone 8.1 From: Dave Walkermailto:rangitat...@gmail.com Sent: 26/11/2014 18:14 To: ozDotNetmailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Lenovo yoga 2 pro are awesome. Well worth checking out. On 26 Nov 2014 19:50, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Stephen and Greg I couldn't even locate the E7440 on the Australian Dell site, found it on the US one though. Am I missing something? Dell site is confusing. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 19:17, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Perhaps? http://www.dell.com/au/business/p/latitude-e7440-ultrabook/pd On 27 November 2014 at 09:18, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen and Greg I couldn't even locate the E7440 on the Australian Dell site, found it on the US one though. Am I missing something? Dell site is confusing. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 19:17, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Wow that's expensive Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 09:58, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps? http://www.dell.com/au/business/p/latitude-e7440-ultrabook/pd On 27 November 2014 at 09:18, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Stephen and Greg I couldn't even locate the E7440 on the Australian Dell site, found it on the US one though. Am I missing something? Dell site is confusing. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 19:17, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Yep, they didn’t seem to list the i7 E7440’s on the Oz site but the sales guys have access to them. We paid under $2k each with 4GB and whatever the lowest cost drive was. Then put in 16GB of memory and 1 1TB SSD from Crucial (certainly not from Dell). Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 6:18 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Stephen and Greg I couldn't even locate the E7440 on the Australian Dell site, found it on the US one though. Am I missing something? Dell site is confusing. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 19:17, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.commailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty
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This is a good option, but a fairly low spec memory and HDD and then purchase upgrades aftermarket for half the price. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: Yep, they didn’t seem to list the i7 E7440’s on the Oz site but the sales guys have access to them. We paid under $2k each with 4GB and whatever the lowest cost drive was. Then put in 16GB of memory and 1 1TB SSD from Crucial (certainly not from Dell). Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Thursday, 27 November 2014 6:18 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Stephen and Greg I couldn't even locate the E7440 on the Australian Dell site, found it on the US one though. Am I missing something? Dell site is confusing. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 19:17, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Spec'd up the Dell E7440 and it seems expensive for the specs. Only let you put 8Gb RAM in them too. Did I miss something? $3974 for i7 with 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD. (and 5yr warranty). That's almost half as much again as my Surface pro 3 with similar specs. Or do they just charge more for the business laptops vs the consumer targeted ones? (like XPS) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Greg Low (低格雷格) g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook
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ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
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I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
When I was self employed back I got the best laptop I could afford and carry. I spent 3k NZD on a sandybridge i7 + 16Gb + 2 x 128 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSDs (as the mobo supported Raid 0) back in Oct 2011. The disks them selves for 20% of the price. Frankly it's still a beast (though I recently upgraded the disks). I do sense that I'm accustomed to the fast load and compile times and I couldn't go back to HDD. VS 2012/2013 load times are annoyingly about 5-10 secs and I am finding that a bit slow now (yes I know it's a first world problem). My advice is to seriously get the best tools you can afford as this is your living and your sanity. On 27 November 2014 at 16:59, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Highly recommend the Gigabyte P34v2 (I bought mine from Afforable Laptops www.affordablelaptops.com.au http://www.affordablelaptops.com.au ) Specs are: *I7-4700HQ (Up to 3.4Ghz) *16Gb memory *256 Gb SSD *Dedicated Gfx card (Nvidia Geforce GTX 860M with 2 or 4Gb GDDR memory – can’t remember) in addition to the Intel 4600 (switches to 4600 in battery mode) *About 1.7Kg *Battery life is great. Its actually a gaming rig but very thin and light. -Glav From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:00 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com mailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com mailto:meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com mailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4LGzzVdDZcj8qlRZHN5w6vp0g4p7Cf96836-01?si=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Thanks for the advice Preet. Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 15:55, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: When I was self employed back I got the best laptop I could afford and carry. I spent 3k NZD on a sandybridge i7 + 16Gb + 2 x 128 Gb Kingston Hyper X SSDs (as the mobo supported Raid 0) back in Oct 2011. The disks them selves for 20% of the price. Frankly it's still a beast (though I recently upgraded the disks). I do sense that I'm accustomed to the fast load and compile times and I couldn't go back to HDD. VS 2012/2013 load times are annoyingly about 5-10 secs and I am finding that a bit slow now (yes I know it's a first world problem). My advice is to seriously get the best tools you can afford as this is your living and your sanity. On 27 November 2014 at 16:59, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Thanks Glav. Somebody recommended affordablelaptops last week but I couldn't recall the name. Have you had any experience with their warranty/service? Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 17:52, Paul Glavich subscripti...@theglavs.com wrote: Highly recommend the Gigabyte P34v2 (I bought mine from Afforable Laptops www.affordablelaptops.com.au ) Specs are: ·I7-4700HQ (Up to 3.4Ghz) ·16Gb memory ·256 Gb SSD ·Dedicated Gfx card (Nvidia Geforce GTX 860M with 2 or 4Gb GDDR memory – can’t remember) in addition to the Intel 4600 (switches to 4600 in battery mode) ·About 1.7Kg ·Battery life is great. Its actually a gaming rig but very thin and light. -Glav *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom P *Sent:* Thursday, 27 November 2014 3:00 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob My thoughts exactly! :) I was thinking more about how long it normally lasts before i7 and 16Gb RAM become too little Thanks Tom On 27 November 2014 at 14:56, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I only appreciate mine for six months. After that I want a new one. ;) On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:45 AM, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: ATO allows laptops to depreciate over 3 years, desktops 4 https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/In-detail/Deductions-for-specific-industries-and-occupations/IT-professionals---claiming-work-related-expenses/?page=21 On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv http://t.signaledue.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XYg2z8MG4N4WJpKqQK4kWF2mHLdh7Wljf19pFfl03?t=http%3A%2F%2Fcourteous.ly%2FaAOZcvsi=6200614728499200pi=19c727c0-0318-4e16-d9c8-6b4293530175 Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going
[OT] Ultrabook for noob
Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
Lenovo yoga 2 pro are awesome. Well worth checking out. On 26 Nov 2014 19:50, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
RE: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
We’ve had a really good run with Dell E7440’s. We get them with quad core i7’s. Buy them with small memory and drive, and fit Crucial 16GB memory and 1TB SSDs. Been an awesome set of machines. Didn’t think I’d get used to the 14” screen after having a 17” but I’m surprisingly ok with it. I did have to kill off screen scaling in Win 8.X though, as I couldn’t live with it. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Tom P Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2014 2:51 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.commailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.commailto:tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
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Hi Dave Thanks I will check it out. I see there's a Yoga 3 also. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 18:14, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Lenovo yoga 2 pro are awesome. Well worth checking out. On 26 Nov 2014 19:50, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
Re: [OT] Ultrabook for noob
In Australia not in NZ so didn't see it. Read reviews and it's even better. The ability to turn it into a tablet and the screen resolution are phenomenal. On 26 Nov 2014 20:27, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dave Thanks I will check it out. I see there's a Yoga 3 also. Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 18:14, Dave Walker rangitat...@gmail.com wrote: Lenovo yoga 2 pro are awesome. Well worth checking out. On 26 Nov 2014 19:50, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stephen Thanks for the quick response. Actually a coworker suggested this list a while ago but I forgot all about it. Surface Pro 3 did have me interested at first but it is too small in my opinion and I prefer to just use the laptop and not have to hook up to an external monitor and keyboard and so on. Even a 13 has me concerned. I may go with 15. I've heard great things about the Macbook but the keyboard didn't feel right to me for Windows. I'll check out the XPS 15. Wow, 16Gb RAM? I didn't realise that was such an issue. 8Gb would be plenty for me I think but I guess going forward that will matter. How often do people change laptops? Is 3-4 years a stretch? Thanks Tom On 26 November 2014 at 17:02, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Welcome Tom! (OMG where did we get a new poster from?) Having more than a few laptops (both past and present) I feel slightly qualified to reply. I've found Dell pretty good, but always get the longest warranty you can get your hands on. It's happened a couple of times where a laptop has needed parts/repairs and its been out of warranty. When that happens its usually better to upgrade than spend money on it. I'm currently running a Mac book Pro 13 (for iOS dev cross platform stuff with Xamarin), a Surface Pro 3 (for most dev) and an Asus gaming laptop (amazing machine but a bit too heavy to lug about. Awesome for gaming at a mates place, or when others bring their laptops and you want to be sociable in the same room). The only thing that stops me from saying get a surface pro 3, is the RAM limit of 8Gb. If it could have 16Gb it would be the way to go, hands down. The other two laptops both have 16Gb and its really the only thing that lets the Surface Pro 3 down (spec wise). That said its the most portable, and most adaptable (laptop or tablet mode) and even wins on battery life by a huge margin. That said, the real answer is it depends. You need to look at what you want it for and makes sure whatever you get fits that first. Oh, I had a Samsung Ultrabook (the QuadHD touch screen one) and was disappointed with the high DPI experience of Windows 8. Passed it to my daughter for Uni laptop and she loves it. I almost got the Dell XPS 15 (with the QuadHD touchscreen) but got the surface pro 3 instead. So far not regretted that decision but I daresay the Dell would have also been a good buy (without the tablet form tho) HTH On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Tom P tompbi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi First time poster here so please take it easy on me. I've only ever had a desktop but looking to purchase my first laptop, ultrabook preferred. I've been looking at the Dells for warranty and support feedback I've received, XPS 13 sounds mainly. I wish to use it for development mainly with some minor travel. Can some of the wiser more experienced developers here share their thoughts and recommendations? Thanks Tom
