Re: FW: 240GB SSD?
Good point. I'll do that right now. I've just finished installing Windows 8: 6m01s from Install to Welcome to Windows. I'm impressed. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? ** ** Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) ** ** On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. ** **
Re: FW: 240GB SSD?
Once you go SSD you don't ever want to go back On 9 August 2013 18:03, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Good point. I'll do that right now. I've just finished installing Windows 8: 6m01s from Install to Welcome to Windows. I'm impressed. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? ** ** Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) ** ** On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. ** ** -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: FW: 240GB SSD?
Greg, I just checked Crucial site and there doesn't seem to be any firmware upgrade.for M500 at all :) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? ** ** Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) ** ** On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. ** **
Re: FW: 240GB SSD?
True enough, I think. I've got it on my MBP, and the speed it boots into Win7 on Parallels... Mike On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Preet Sangha preetsan...@gmail.com wrote: Once you go SSD you don't ever want to go back On 9 August 2013 18:03, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Good point. I'll do that right now. I've just finished installing Windows 8: 6m01s from Install to Welcome to Windows. I'm impressed. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? ** ** Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) ** ** On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. ** ** -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
RE: FW: 240GB SSD?
+1 My first SSD was a OCZ Vertex (1st version) – cost SGD$650 in 2009 for 128GB. Was a gamble at the time, but given the rave reviews I was reading on the internet, thought I’d give it a go wondering around Sim Lim and having not bought anything so far. Have never looked back despite a few failures. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Preet Sangha Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 4:05 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: FW: 240GB SSD? Once you go SSD you don't ever want to go back On 9 August 2013 18:03, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.aumailto:corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Good point. I'll do that right now. I've just finished installing Windows 8: 6m01s from Install to Welcome to Windows. I'm impressed. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:50 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: 240GB SSD? Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.commailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.comhttp://www.sqldownunder.com/ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.auhttp://www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
240GB SSD?
Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu.
RE: 240GB SSD?
Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.auhttp://www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you... Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: 240GB SSD?
MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file. Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html - Stuart Kinnear On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
Re: 240GB SSD?
I've still got my old HYPER-X pair and they give solid 450-500 Mb/s read and write each and 1000 in RAID0. I've read about the Samsung and OCZ Vertex and these + the latest Hyper X versions is what I'd look at. On 9 August 2013 11:04, Stuart Kinnear stu...@skproactive.com wrote: MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file. Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html - Stuart Kinnear On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. - -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: 240GB SSD?
We've had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au http://www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you: Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu.
Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?]
What's the deal with not having a swap file? I've heard that there are some programs in Windows that require a swap file to function. Or is that just BS? In the past I've run without one and things have seemed fine, but I'd like to know if I can get rid of it or not? Especially since I'm using an SSD drive now. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 08:34 To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: 240GB SSD? MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file. Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html - Stuart Kinnear On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.aumailto:corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. -
Re: Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?]
In the main the advice I've got was that you can run without one. However I do SSAS/SQL stuff and during intensive processing when memory is eaten like lollies (I have 16Gb ram) a swap file is needed as the PC crashes unless I had one. so for me it's needed, but I believe others run happily without one. On 9 August 2013 14:11, mike smith meski...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, James Chapman-Smith ja...@chapman-smith.com wrote: What's the deal with not having a swap file? ** ** I've heard that there are some programs in Windows that require a swap file to function. Or is that just BS? The VMM probably needs one. :^) ** ** In the past I've run without one and things have seemed fine, but I'd like to know if I can get rid of it or not? Especially since I'm using an SSD drive now. What I've heard about SSD's, its not a good idea to have the swap file on the SSD. Depending on the number of write cycles they are good for. Are people still hitting end-of-life on SSD's? (and is this just regarded as cost of business for the advantages they give?) ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stuart Kinnear *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 08:34 *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? ** ** ** ** MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file.* *** ** ** Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html** ** ** ** - Stuart Kinnear ** ** ** ** ** ** On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, ** ** What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. ** ** PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. ** ** Thanks, Corneliu. ** ** -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. - -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?]
The only thing I recall having problems with after disabling my swap file in Windows were some games that looked for a swap file and wouldn’t run if there wasn’t one (or it wasn’t big enough). I think one was Company of Heroes. It didn’t actually *need* to use the swap file as the PC has 16 GB of RAM, but it wouldn’t run unless it detected it. Not having a swap file on the SSD is mostly myth/misinformation. I’ve read several articles about this and the conclusion seems to be that if deliberately create a workload of 100% writes non-stop to a consumer-level SSD it will still last at least a couple of years (see below for a link to an (admittedly older) article that notes a theoretical lifetime of 51 years!). Anandtech has a more recent article with a more realistic load which still shows your SSD will be too small and slow well before it runs out of writes. Over time as the process size shrinks NAND cells used by SSDs have become *worse* with respect to the rated lifetime in terms of number of writes, but wear levelling, over-provisioning and controller write amplification performance has improved to compensate. If I had needed a swap file and had an SSD in the system I would definitely use it. Here are some links for further reading. http://superuser.com/questions/51724/should-i-keep-my-swap-file-on-an-ssd-drive http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/samsung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html Cheers, Ben From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of mike smith Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 10:12 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?] On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, James Chapman-Smith ja...@chapman-smith.commailto:ja...@chapman-smith.com wrote: What's the deal with not having a swap file? I've heard that there are some programs in Windows that require a swap file to function. Or is that just BS? The VMM probably needs one. :^) In the past I've run without one and things have seemed fine, but I'd like to know if I can get rid of it or not? Especially since I'm using an SSD drive now. What I've heard about SSD's, its not a good idea to have the swap file on the SSD. Depending on the number of write cycles they are good for. Are people still hitting end-of-life on SSD's? (and is this just regarded as cost of business for the advantages they give?) From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Kinnear Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 08:34 To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: 240GB SSD? MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file. Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html - Stuart Kinnear On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.aumailto:corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686tel:040%20704%205686. Office: 03 9589 6502tel:03%209589%206502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. - -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any other party, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message from your computer.
Re: Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?]
Interesting. A normal cache on the front end of an SSD system would likely help too. One thing I *can* say, having experienced it, is *don't* use the Lacie drive that has a fingerprint reader on it and substitute an SSD for the normal drive... (not that it wears out, but it seems to keep losing connection (reminds me that I need to find a firewire 800 enclosure to put my SSD into)) Mike On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:24 PM, ben.robb...@jlta.com.au wrote: The only thing I recall having problems with after disabling my swap file in Windows were some games that looked for a swap file and wouldn’t run if there wasn’t one (or it wasn’t big enough). I think one was Company of Heroes. It didn’t actually **need** to use the swap file as the PC has 16 GB of RAM, but it wouldn’t run unless it detected it. ** ** Not having a swap file on the SSD is mostly myth/misinformation. I’ve read several articles about this and the conclusion seems to be that if deliberately create a workload of 100% writes non-stop to a consumer-level SSD it will still last at least a couple of years (see below for a link to an (admittedly older) article that notes a theoretical lifetime of 51 years!). Anandtech has a more recent article with a more realistic load which still shows your SSD will be too small and slow well before it runs out of writes. ** ** Over time as the process size shrinks NAND cells used by SSDs have become * *worse** with respect to the rated lifetime in terms of number of writes, but wear levelling, over-provisioning and controller write amplification performance has improved to compensate. If I had needed a swap file and had an SSD in the system I would definitely use it. ** ** Here are some links for further reading. http://superuser.com/questions/51724/should-i-keep-my-swap-file-on-an-ssd-drive http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/samsung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html ** ** Cheers, Ben ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *mike smith *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 10:12 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Swap File [Was: 240GB SSD?] ** ** ** ** On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM, James Chapman-Smith ja...@chapman-smith.com wrote: What's the deal with not having a swap file? I've heard that there are some programs in Windows that require a swap file to function. Or is that just BS? ** ** The VMM probably needs one. :^) In the past I've run without one and things have seemed fine, but I'd like to know if I can get rid of it or not? Especially since I'm using an SSD drive now. ** ** What I've heard about SSD's, its not a good idea to have the swap file on the SSD. Depending on the number of write cycles they are good for. Are people still hitting end-of-life on SSD's? (and is this just regarded as cost of business for the advantages they give?) *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Stuart Kinnear *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 08:34 *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: 240GB SSD? MSY usually is quite price competitive. I have an OCZ vertex and am happy with it. I once fiddled with moving temp files placing to a SATA drive, now I don't bother. With enough ram you can also do without a swap file.** ** Here's some reviews: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/vertex-450-256gb-review,3517-6.html*** * - Stuart Kinnear On 9 August 2013 08:46, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu. -- - Stuart Kinnear Mobile: 040 704 5686. Office: 03 9589 6502 SK Pro-Active! Pty Ltd acn. 81 072 778 262 PO Box 6117 Cromer, Vic 3193. Australia Business software developers. SQL Server, Visual Basic, C# , Asp.Net, Microsoft Office. - ** ** -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills This email is intended for the named recipient only. The information it contains may be confidential or commercially sensitive. If you are not the intended recipient you must not reproduce or distribute any part of this email, disclose its contents to any
Re: 240GB SSD?
Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. ** ** Regards, ** ** Greg ** ** Dr Greg Low ** ** 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: 240GB SSD? ** ** Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 ** ** Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea *Sent:* Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* 240GB SSD? ** ** Hi, ** ** What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. ** ** PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. ** ** Thanks, Corneliu.
FW: 240GB SSD?
One hint though Corneliu: if you bought one locally, it mightn’t have the latest firmware. I’d update that before I got too carried away. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 3:39 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: 240GB SSD? Thanks everyone. Got a Crucial 240Gb M500 from MWave. Good price and it's already getting installed :) On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com mailto:g...@greglow.com wrote: We’ve had a really good run with a bunch of Crucial M4s. They are up to 960GB now and all are SATA3. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 tel:%2B61%20419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 tel:%2B61%203%208676%204913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 9:01 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: RE: 240GB SSD? Samsung 840 (or the Pro if you can afford it and have SATA3). Crucial M4 or the newer C500 Where are you based? www.staticice.com.au http://www.staticice.com.au is pretty good for locating stores/prices/stock. Then just pick a place close to you… Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Corneliu I. Tusnea Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013 8:46 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: 240GB SSD? Hi, What's a good, fast and reliable SSD these days? My old HDD from my home workstation decided it's that time of it's lifetime when work is no longer on its books so I need to replace it. PS Maybe also a place I could buy it and pick it up today. Thanks, Corneliu.
