Re: [OT] Office 365 Azure AD sync

2015-12-01 Thread 罗格雷格博士
Directory services for AAD had just been pushed out so you should be able to 
just use it for all AD needs. We've domain joined local servers to it just fine.

Regards

Greg

Dr Greg Low
SQL Down Under
+61 419201410
1300SQLSQL (1300775775)

On 2 Dec 2015, at 4:03 PM, Stephen Price 
<step...@lythixdesigns.com<mailto:step...@lythixdesigns.com>> wrote:


Just set it up, and made sure I was going with the new one. ADConnect.


I have a Synology NAS which has some file shares, and have a local AD server 
(which also has a share for an application). NAS is set up to sync with the 
local AD for user accounts, but doesn't look like it supports Azure AD yet.


Not had a look at ADFS yet, have been out of the Infrastructure a while now. So 
I could grant the AAD users access to the local AD? Would get around the need 
to sync those users into the local AD if that's doable.

thanks!

Stephen



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
<ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>> on behalf 
of Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) <g...@greglow.com<mailto:g...@greglow.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:05 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365 Azure AD sync

First question is if you still need local AD. With vpns and AD services on AAD, 
many don't now. If you do, ADFS allows for two way traversal.

Are you currently using ADConnect or the older Dirsync ?

Regards

Greg

Dr Greg Low
SQL Down Under
+61 419201410
1300SQLSQL (1300775775)

On 2 Dec 2015, at 12:59 PM, Stephen Price 
<step...@lythixdesigns.com<mailto:step...@lythixdesigns.com>> wrote:


Hey all,

I've recently switched from Google to Office 365, with user accounts on the 
Azure AD side of things.

I then thought I should set up the Azure AD connect thing which syncs the local 
AD accounts up to Azure AD but I discovered does not currently sync accounts 
back down to the local AD.

Kind of an OH CRAP moment when I realised the email accounts I've set up that 
are now functioning in the cloud quite nicely thank you very much are pretty 
much useless for authenticating with the local resources.

It would have been a nice touch. It was there in the preview (forget the name 
now, something like UserSyncback?) and hopefully it is coming soon. Anyone else 
hit this and have a work around? I could change all of the email accounts over 
to the local accounts that have been synced up to Azure but then I have the 
issue of having to move/migrate all of the mail between accounts.

Not sure how trivial that is, I might be able to migrate from cloud account to 
local account (the cloud copy) and then remove all of the cloud accounts and 
switch the email address over.

Other than that small issue, have been happy with it. The users however 
struggle with change. /me facepalm. Always the users.


thanks!

Stephen


Re: [OT] Office 365 Azure AD sync

2015-12-01 Thread 罗格雷格博士
First question is if you still need local AD. With vpns and AD services on AAD, 
many don't now. If you do, ADFS allows for two way traversal.

Are you currently using ADConnect or the older Dirsync ?

Regards

Greg

Dr Greg Low
SQL Down Under
+61 419201410
1300SQLSQL (1300775775)

On 2 Dec 2015, at 12:59 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:


Hey all,

I've recently switched from Google to Office 365, with user accounts on the 
Azure AD side of things.

I then thought I should set up the Azure AD connect thing which syncs the local 
AD accounts up to Azure AD but I discovered does not currently sync accounts 
back down to the local AD.

Kind of an OH CRAP moment when I realised the email accounts I've set up that 
are now functioning in the cloud quite nicely thank you very much are pretty 
much useless for authenticating with the local resources.

It would have been a nice touch. It was there in the preview (forget the name 
now, something like UserSyncback?) and hopefully it is coming soon. Anyone else 
hit this and have a work around? I could change all of the email accounts over 
to the local accounts that have been synced up to Azure but then I have the 
issue of having to move/migrate all of the mail between accounts.

Not sure how trivial that is, I might be able to migrate from cloud account to 
local account (the cloud copy) and then remove all of the cloud accounts and 
switch the email address over.

Other than that small issue, have been happy with it. The users however 
struggle with change. /me facepalm. Always the users.


thanks!

Stephen


Re: [OT] Office 365 Azure AD sync

2015-12-01 Thread Stephen Price
Just set it up, and made sure I was going with the new one. ADConnect.


I have a Synology NAS which has some file shares, and have a local AD server 
(which also has a share for an application). NAS is set up to sync with the 
local AD for user accounts, but doesn't look like it supports Azure AD yet.


Not had a look at ADFS yet, have been out of the Infrastructure a while now. So 
I could grant the AAD users access to the local AD? Would get around the need 
to sync those users into the local AD if that's doable.

thanks!

Stephen



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf 
of Greg Low (??) <g...@greglow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:05 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365 Azure AD sync

First question is if you still need local AD. With vpns and AD services on AAD, 
many don't now. If you do, ADFS allows for two way traversal.

Are you currently using ADConnect or the older Dirsync ?

Regards

Greg

Dr Greg Low
SQL Down Under
+61 419201410
1300SQLSQL (1300775775)

On 2 Dec 2015, at 12:59 PM, Stephen Price 
<step...@lythixdesigns.com<mailto:step...@lythixdesigns.com>> wrote:


Hey all,

I've recently switched from Google to Office 365, with user accounts on the 
Azure AD side of things.

I then thought I should set up the Azure AD connect thing which syncs the local 
AD accounts up to Azure AD but I discovered does not currently sync accounts 
back down to the local AD.

Kind of an OH CRAP moment when I realised the email accounts I've set up that 
are now functioning in the cloud quite nicely thank you very much are pretty 
much useless for authenticating with the local resources.

It would have been a nice touch. It was there in the preview (forget the name 
now, something like UserSyncback?) and hopefully it is coming soon. Anyone else 
hit this and have a work around? I could change all of the email accounts over 
to the local accounts that have been synced up to Azure but then I have the 
issue of having to move/migrate all of the mail between accounts.

Not sure how trivial that is, I might be able to migrate from cloud account to 
local account (the cloud copy) and then remove all of the cloud accounts and 
switch the email address over.

Other than that small issue, have been happy with it. The users however 
struggle with change. /me facepalm. Always the users.


thanks!

Stephen


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-03 Thread Stephen Price
So if they are push Sharepoint Online, does that mean there was a
Sharepoint Offline?
Or is this another example of where Online means "In the cloud" versus self
hosted. No need to answer, being facetious.

Native implementations is only going to mean more jobs for developers,
right?

On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 at 10:55 Grant Maw <grant@gmail.com> wrote:

> I with Ken on this - if the bell is starting to toll for Sharepoint, what
> alternatives are being used?
>
> I've never liked Sharepoint, it always seemed to me to be an ugly,
> bloated, cumbersome thing to use, so I for one won't weep if it's nearing
> the end of its life, but there must be some alternative that is filling the
> void, shouldn't there?
>
> On 3 November 2015 at 09:58, Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) <g...@greglow.com> wrote:
>
>> There really is quite a shift going on.
>>
>>
>>
>> For years, every time we asked for enhancements to the portals in SQL
>> Server Reporting Services, etc. the response was that “we already have a
>> portal business and it’s called SharePoint”. Now all the SQL Server
>> directions are away from SharePoint, back to native implementations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even most of my SharePoint friends are mostly pushing SharePoint Online
>> now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
>> fax
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 November 2015 10:30 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: [OT] Office 365
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course. But the “who uses SharePoint?” question kinda implies that
>> SharePoint’s been superseded in all areas that it does (document storage,
>> workflow, calendaring, collaboration etc.). So, I’m not asking for a ERP
>> system, or a CRM or something that people might have shoe-horned into
>> SharePoint before. But just looking at SharePoint’s core functionality
>> (document lists, Office integration, AD integration etc.), is there
>> anything that people are flocking to now that is, arguably, superior to the
>> way SharePoint works (whether it be scalability, ease of use,
>> extensibility, 3rd party add-in support, whatever)
>>
>>
>>
>> I realise this is a bit vague, but I’ve only just started on this, so I
>> haven’t yet compiled a list of requirements yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
>> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Michael Ridland
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 November 2015 2:25 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't this all depend on your requirements?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> *Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP*
>>
>> XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists
>>
>> www.xam-consulting.com
>>
>> Blog: www.michaelridland.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have
>> SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend
>> (for a corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>>
>>
>>
>> Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What alternatives would you recommend?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>>
>>
>>
>> People still use sharepoint? Lol
>>
>> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com

RE: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-02 Thread Ken Schaefer
Of course. But the “who uses SharePoint?” question kinda implies that 
SharePoint’s been superseded in all areas that it does (document storage, 
workflow, calendaring, collaboration etc.). So, I’m not asking for a ERP 
system, or a CRM or something that people might have shoe-horned into 
SharePoint before. But just looking at SharePoint’s core functionality 
(document lists, Office integration, AD integration etc.), is there anything 
that people are flocking to now that is, arguably, superior to the way 
SharePoint works (whether it be scalability, ease of use, extensibility, 3rd 
party add-in support, whatever)

I realise this is a bit vague, but I’ve only just started on this, so I haven’t 
yet compiled a list of requirements yet.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Ridland
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 2:25 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365


Wouldn't this all depend on your requirements?

Thanks


Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP

XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists

www.xam-consulting.com<http://www.xam-consulting.com/>

Blog: www.michaelridland.com<http://www.michaelridland.com>



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have 
SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend (for a 
corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
What alternatives would you recommend?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

People still use sharepoint? Lol

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version gives you 
access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think collaborative office 
editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am not using so don't need. 
I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me right now.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>From what I've heard (which is very little)
the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to customise 
stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business versions for 
commercial use, whatever that means. 

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering if 
anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it gives you 
and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except its more 
expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?

I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its great. 
Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented anywhere that 
that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I have +1 install (2 
total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal product.
I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox (its in 
the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make OneDrive my 
main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and figure if i'm not 
paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.

Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business 
Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products, can't 
find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...




RE: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-02 Thread 罗格雷格博士
There really is quite a shift going on.

For years, every time we asked for enhancements to the portals in SQL Server 
Reporting Services, etc. the response was that “we already have a portal 
business and it’s called SharePoint”. Now all the SQL Server directions are 
away from SharePoint, back to native implementations.

Even most of my SharePoint friends are mostly pushing SharePoint Online now.

Regards,

Greg

Dr Greg Low

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax
SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com<http://www.sqldownunder.com/>

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2015 10:30 AM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: RE: [OT] Office 365

Of course. But the “who uses SharePoint?” question kinda implies that 
SharePoint’s been superseded in all areas that it does (document storage, 
workflow, calendaring, collaboration etc.). So, I’m not asking for a ERP 
system, or a CRM or something that people might have shoe-horned into 
SharePoint before. But just looking at SharePoint’s core functionality 
(document lists, Office integration, AD integration etc.), is there anything 
that people are flocking to now that is, arguably, superior to the way 
SharePoint works (whether it be scalability, ease of use, extensibility, 3rd 
party add-in support, whatever)

I realise this is a bit vague, but I’ve only just started on this, so I haven’t 
yet compiled a list of requirements yet.


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Michael Ridland
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 2:25 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365


Wouldn't this all depend on your requirements?

Thanks


Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP

XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists

www.xam-consulting.com<http://www.xam-consulting.com/>

Blog: www.michaelridland.com<http://www.michaelridland.com>



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have 
SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend (for a 
corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
What alternatives would you recommend?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

People still use sharepoint? Lol

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version gives you 
access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think collaborative office 
editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am not using so don't need. 
I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me right now.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>From what I've heard (which is very little)
the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to customise 
stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business versions for 
commercial use, whatever that means. 

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering if 
anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it gives you 
and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except its more 
expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?

I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its great. 
Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented anywhere that 
that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I have +1 install (2 
total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal product.
I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox (its in 
the name... they have been te

Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-02 Thread Grant Maw
I with Ken on this - if the bell is starting to toll for Sharepoint, what
alternatives are being used?

I've never liked Sharepoint, it always seemed to me to be an ugly, bloated,
cumbersome thing to use, so I for one won't weep if it's nearing the end of
its life, but there must be some alternative that is filling the void,
shouldn't there?

On 3 November 2015 at 09:58, Greg Low (罗格雷格博士) <g...@greglow.com> wrote:

> There really is quite a shift going on.
>
>
>
> For years, every time we asked for enhancements to the portals in SQL
> Server Reporting Services, etc. the response was that “we already have a
> portal business and it’s called SharePoint”. Now all the SQL Server
> directions are away from SharePoint, back to native implementations.
>
>
>
> Even most of my SharePoint friends are mostly pushing SharePoint Online
> now.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
> fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Schaefer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 November 2015 10:30 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> Of course. But the “who uses SharePoint?” question kinda implies that
> SharePoint’s been superseded in all areas that it does (document storage,
> workflow, calendaring, collaboration etc.). So, I’m not asking for a ERP
> system, or a CRM or something that people might have shoe-horned into
> SharePoint before. But just looking at SharePoint’s core functionality
> (document lists, Office integration, AD integration etc.), is there
> anything that people are flocking to now that is, arguably, superior to the
> way SharePoint works (whether it be scalability, ease of use,
> extensibility, 3rd party add-in support, whatever)
>
>
>
> I realise this is a bit vague, but I’ve only just started on this, so I
> haven’t yet compiled a list of requirements yet.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Ridland
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 November 2015 2:25 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
>
>
> Wouldn't this all depend on your requirements?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> *Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP*
>
> XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists
>
> www.xam-consulting.com
>
> Blog: www.michaelridland.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>
> Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have
> SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend
> (for a corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> Damn I've been busted ummmm... lotus notes
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
> wrote:
>
> What alternatives would you recommend?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> People still use sharepoint? Lol
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version
> gives you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think
> collaborative office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am
> not using so don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me
> right now.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
>
> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering
> if anyo

Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread Stephen Price
Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version gives
you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think collaborative
office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am not using so
don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me right now.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude  wrote:

> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was
>> wondering if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out
>> what it gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version
>> except its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?
>>
>> I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
>> great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
>> anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
>> have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
>> product.
>> I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
>> (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
>> OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
>> figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.
>>
>> Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365
>> Business Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business
>> products, can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it
>> out...
>>
>


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread DotNet Dude
People still use sharepoint? Lol

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price  wrote:

> Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version
> gives you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think
> collaborative office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am
> not using so don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me
> right now.
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude  > wrote:
>
>> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
>> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
>> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
>> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>>
>> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was
>>> wondering if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out
>>> what it gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version
>>> except its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?
>>>
>>> I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
>>> great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
>>> anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
>>> have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
>>> product.
>>> I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
>>> (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
>>> OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
>>> figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.
>>>
>>> Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365
>>> Business Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business
>>> products, can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it
>>> out...
>>>
>>


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread DotNet Dude
>From what I've heard (which is very little)
the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to customise
stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business versions for
commercial use, whatever that means. 

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering
> if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it
> gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except
> its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?
>
> I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
> great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
> anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
> have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
> product.
> I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
> (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
> OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
> figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.
>
> Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business
> Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products,
> can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...
>


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread Stephen Price
Not people, no. Managers.
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 4:04 PM, DotNet Dude  wrote:

> People still use sharepoint? Lol
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
>> Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version
>> gives you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think
>> collaborative office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am
>> not using so don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me
>> right now.
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude  wrote:
>>
>>> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
>>> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
>>> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
>>> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey all,

 I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was
 wondering if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out
 what it gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version
 except its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?

 I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
 great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
 anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
 have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
 product.
 I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
 (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
 OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
 figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.

 Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365
 Business Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business
 products, can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it
 out...

>>>


RE: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread Ken Schaefer
What alternatives would you recommend?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

People still use sharepoint? Lol

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version gives you 
access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think collaborative office 
editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am not using so don't need. 
I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me right now.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','adotnetd...@gmail.com');>> 
wrote:
>From what I've heard (which is very little)
the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to customise 
stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business versions for 
commercial use, whatever that means. 

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','step...@perthprojects.com');>>
 wrote:
Hey all,

I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering if 
anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it gives you 
and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except its more 
expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?

I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its great. 
Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented anywhere that 
that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I have +1 install (2 
total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal product.
I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox (its in 
the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make OneDrive my 
main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and figure if i'm not 
paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.

Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business 
Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products, can't 
find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread Michael Ridland
Wouldn't this all depend on your requirements?

Thanks

*Michael Ridland | Technical Director | Xamarin MVP*

XAM Consulting - Mobile Technology Specialists

www.xam-consulting.com

Blog: www.michaelridland.com



On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have
> SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend
> (for a corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
> wrote:
>
> What alternatives would you recommend?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> People still use sharepoint? Lol
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version
> gives you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think
> collaborative office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am
> not using so don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me
> right now.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
>
> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering
> if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it
> gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except
> its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?
>
>
>
> I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
> great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
> anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
> have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
> product.
>
> I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
> (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
> OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
> figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.
>
>
>
> Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business
> Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products,
> can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...
>
>
>


Re: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread DotNet Dude
Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

> What alternatives would you recommend?
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *DotNet Dude
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Office 365
>
>
>
> People still use sharepoint? Lol
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version
> gives you access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think
> collaborative office editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am
> not using so don't need. I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me
> right now.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >From what I've heard (which is very little)
>
> the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to
> customise stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business
> versions for commercial use, whatever that means. 
>
>
> On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
>
> I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering
> if anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it
> gives you and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except
> its more expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?
>
>
>
> I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its
> great. Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented
> anywhere that that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I
> have +1 install (2 total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal
> product.
>
> I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox
> (its in the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make
> OneDrive my main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and
> figure if i'm not paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.
>
>
>
> Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business
> Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products,
> can't find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...
>
>


RE: [OT] Office 365

2015-11-01 Thread Ken Schaefer
Serious question – I have to look at this at work right now. We have 
SharePoint, but if there’s alternatives out there that people recommend (for a 
corporate environment), then I’d be keen to look into them

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Monday, 2 November 2015 12:57 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

Damn I've been busted u... lotus notes

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
What alternatives would you recommend?

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of DotNet Dude
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2015 7:04 PM
To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] Office 365

People still use sharepoint? Lol

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Actually did some more reading and it looks like the business version gives you 
access to Lync (for business), Sharepoint and I think collaborative office 
editing. As well as the Home stuff. All of which I am not using so don't need. 
I think Office 365 Home is the way to go for me right now.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 at 15:32 DotNet Dude 
<adotnetd...@gmail.com<mailto:adotnetd...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>From what I've heard (which is very little)
the business version gives you more control in the "dashboard" to customise 
stuff. I also don't think you're meant to use non-business versions for 
commercial use, whatever that means. 

On Sunday, 1 November 2015, Stephen Price 
<step...@perthprojects.com<mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Hey all,

I know a few here use Office 365 (from previous threads) and was wondering if 
anyone is using the Office 365 Business? Trying to work out what it gives you 
and so far it looks exactly the same as the Home version except its more 
expensive. Perhaps business support is the extra?

I'm currently using the freebie given to me via my msdn account and its great. 
Its called Office 365 Developer Subscription. Its not documented anywhere that 
that is, but it says I'm using Office 365 Personal except I have +1 install (2 
total) when compared with the real Office 365 Personal product.
I have a few more machines than that, and have decided to drop Dropbox (its in 
the name... they have been telling to do it all along...) and make OneDrive my 
main cloud storage. So wanted a couple more installs (and figure if i'm not 
paying for Dropbox anymore that can pay for Office 365.

Going to go with Office 365 Home, but curious what the Office 365 Business 
Premium gives you. They only compare it with the other Business products, can't 
find a Home vs Business comparison. Not one that spells it out...