Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Apparently Telstra are trying to get them (Chromecasts) into Australia - http://techgeek.com.au/2014/02/10/telstra-talks-google-launch-chromecast-australia/ On 29 January 2014 21:06, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... I think you've just described every OSS everything. Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. Yeah you're right about XBMC v1 ... it was revolutionary at the time. I am unsure how much (conceptually) it has moved on. At the end of the day I have a decreasing tolerance for dealing with other people's UX bullshit and cognitive dissonance when I just want to watch some fricking video. My wife doesn't know what a codec is and most certainly doesn't give a shit why there is an error relating to one on her TV. As far as 'the future' goes ChromeCast has the model right - basic rendering and not in the way of your relationship with your content provider and weapon of choice. The largest screen in the house has been reduced to being a rendering surface for a $35 dongle (I'll leave it to you to argue about who is the first, second or third screen). The value will always be with the content provider and curation - which is more of what I pay an outrageous sum to Foxtel each month for, than shitty over-compressed 1080i video. David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Something to look forward to. I bought one a couple of months back from my backdoor Amazon/ MyUS redirection. Just got around to plugging it in, so easy. Now to get a vpn set up to connect to netflix _ i've got it working on the Mac, but it isn't jumping out at me how to get other devices on the router to see this. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:22 AM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: Apparently Telstra are trying to get them (Chromecasts) into Australia - http://techgeek.com.au/2014/02/10/telstra-talks-google-launch-chromecast-australia/ On 29 January 2014 21:06, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... I think you've just described every OSS everything. Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. Yeah you're right about XBMC v1 ... it was revolutionary at the time. I am unsure how much (conceptually) it has moved on. At the end of the day I have a decreasing tolerance for dealing with other people's UX bullshit and cognitive dissonance when I just want to watch some fricking video. My wife doesn't know what a codec is and most certainly doesn't give a shit why there is an error relating to one on her TV. As far as 'the future' goes ChromeCast has the model right - basic rendering and not in the way of your relationship with your content provider and weapon of choice. The largest screen in the house has been reduced to being a rendering surface for a $35 dongle (I'll leave it to you to argue about who is the first, second or third screen). The value will always be with the content provider and curation - which is more of what I pay an outrageous sum to Foxtel each month for, than shitty over-compressed 1080i video. David. -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
And that class is how Evangelism is done... You got schooled... :D --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: Yep, looks like you get some of the apps for free if you become premium. If its as awesome as it looks (will give it a work out tonight) then it looks worth supporting. Thanks for the recommendation Scott! Hmm this thread has absolutely nothing to do with .Net hehe Perhaps Plex has some api's that can be hooked into so we can save this thread? On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.comwrote: I think I paid for the iPhone and android ones. On Jan 29, 2014 4:57 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Yeah, even found wp8 plex app. Sure it cost me money ($5.90 seems a bit high but hey whatever) but gives me something to spend my Nokia credit on. I wonder if the iphone app is free or paid? -- From: Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.com Sent: 29/01/2014 2:26 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1 Plex has a great ecosystem for mobile devices too. Joseph On Jan 29, 2014 4:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... I think you've just described every OSS everything. Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. Yeah you're right about XBMC v1 ... it was revolutionary at the time. I am unsure how much (conceptually) it has moved on. At the end of the day I have a decreasing tolerance for dealing with other people's UX bullshit and cognitive dissonance when I just want to watch some fricking video. My wife doesn't know what a codec is and most certainly doesn't give a shit why there is an error relating to one on her TV. As far as 'the future' goes ChromeCast has the model right - basic rendering and not in the way of your relationship with your content provider and weapon of choice. The largest screen in the house has been reduced to being a rendering surface for a $35 dongle (I'll leave it to you to argue about who is the first, second or third screen). The value will always be with the content provider and curation - which is more of what I pay an outrageous sum to Foxtel each month for, than shitty over-compressed 1080i video. David.
RE: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Magic thanks David. That looks like the answer. I was trying to avoid having yet another device there but they look so neat. I’ve ordered a couple of them. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014 6:47 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com mailto:step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I can right click a movie or whatever and select play to for my Xbox One. Not sure if my Samsung TV shows up but I don't have it plugged in, its essentially a dumb terminal for all the other devices. On that note its the only way I can play movies from my local network on my Xbox One. There's no way to browse the local network with my XBox One. Its majorly crippled. Its easier to play stuff off the Internet than it is from my own network. I tend to use my Gigabyte media center for movies. Rather dissapointing when your newer console is less capable than your older one(s). Progress right? :( Miracast with my Dell Venue 8 is a fail but that's due to my TV not supporting it. Yay for standards... Bleeding edge technology Since finding DIaL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIscovery_And_Launch), DLNA is dead to me. I got a mate in the US to send over a bunch of ChromeCasts and it is the way forward. $35 per first screen and you use 'whatever' phone/tablet/app to tell it to download content. Sure as hell beats the brain dead UX on my Bravia for finding media as the device you send commands from is anything and disconnected from the source and destination of the streaming. It is so frickin simple and widely supported from second screen apps on android/ios. Latest release also supports Plex for local media. YMMV. David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: Magic thanks David. That looks like the answer. I was trying to avoid having yet another device there but they look so neat. I’ve ordered a couple of them. Good luck! I find myself actually watching a fair bit of YouTube content on the couch now and just surfing searches from my phone and punting the content to the TV via ChromeCast. One thing that did occur to me is that YouTube does a really crappy job of content curation. It is hard to go from something you watched that you liked to something else similar ranked by quality (and there is a lot of complete crap on The YouTube). There would be good money in a startup that does something a lot smarter than The Google (big ask) around curated YouTube content. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
*stares at Chromecast* *stares at Roku 3* You have my attention David ... please expand more... :D --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:45 AM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:36 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: Magic thanks David. That looks like the answer. I was trying to avoid having yet another device there but they look so neat. I've ordered a couple of them. Good luck! I find myself actually watching a fair bit of YouTube content on the couch now and just surfing searches from my phone and punting the content to the TV via ChromeCast. One thing that did occur to me is that YouTube does a really crappy job of content curation. It is hard to go from something you watched that you liked to something else similar ranked by quality (and there is a lot of complete crap on The YouTube). There would be good money in a startup that does something a lot smarter than The Google (big ask) around curated YouTube content. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Plex has a great ecosystem for mobile devices too. Joseph On Jan 29, 2014 4:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
RE: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Yeah, even found wp8 plex app. Sure it cost me money ($5.90 seems a bit high but hey whatever) but gives me something to spend my Nokia credit on. I wonder if the iphone app is free or paid? -Original Message- From: Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.com Sent: 29/01/2014 2:26 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1 Plex has a great ecosystem for mobile devices too. Joseph On Jan 29, 2014 4:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
RE: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
I think I paid for the iPhone and android ones. On Jan 29, 2014 4:57 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Yeah, even found wp8 plex app. Sure it cost me money ($5.90 seems a bit high but hey whatever) but gives me something to spend my Nokia credit on. I wonder if the iphone app is free or paid? -- From: Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.com Sent: 29/01/2014 2:26 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1 Plex has a great ecosystem for mobile devices too. Joseph On Jan 29, 2014 4:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
Yep, looks like you get some of the apps for free if you become premium. If its as awesome as it looks (will give it a work out tonight) then it looks worth supporting. Thanks for the recommendation Scott! Hmm this thread has absolutely nothing to do with .Net hehe Perhaps Plex has some api's that can be hooked into so we can save this thread? On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.comwrote: I think I paid for the iPhone and android ones. On Jan 29, 2014 4:57 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Yeah, even found wp8 plex app. Sure it cost me money ($5.90 seems a bit high but hey whatever) but gives me something to spend my Nokia credit on. I wonder if the iphone app is free or paid? -- From: Joseph Cooney joseph.coo...@gmail.com Sent: 29/01/2014 2:26 PM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1 Plex has a great ecosystem for mobile devices too. Joseph On Jan 29, 2014 4:10 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: Checking out Plex server, it looks great. Oh and as an added bonus i just discovered my NAS has a Plex installer. Synology rocks. On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.comwrote: XBMC was good when XBOX first generation were moddable.. today its like most OSS ... it eventually ends up in the boredom graveyard filled with promises and slow releases... Plex Media Server spanks XBMC now.. and it will be my favourite until eventually another rises to beat its dominance...and then i to will favour this.. --- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.riagenic.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:24 PM, David Connors da...@connors.comwrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Ah ok, I was hoping for a Chromecast vs Roku 3 showdown but it never came .. so basically the whole Airplay thing in Apple speak is still a generation behind as from memory Airplay will still require your Phone/iPad/ATV to host the streaming but this in turn is just an instruction packet to tell it you do it from here.. Yes, I think later extensions to AirPlay did the latter but originally it was more or less peer to peer (which it had to be pre iCloud etc I guess). The key value I get out of the ChromeCast is it has no UX at all. It just shows random photos while not in use but other than that it does nothing. The relationship it always between your chosen device, your favourite/most appropriate app, and ChromeCast as a dumb arse renderer. In that regard, I guess, there is no lock in as you can use whichever content provider or app you want. I've tried XBMC a few times but found the plugins for things like YouTube second rate - as they're basically rebuilding the UX for their own purposes vs using the native thing from Google with the latest features etc. [ .. ] As always, YMMV and it depends on the content you mostly consume (which on an hours watched basis in our place, is still mainly FoxtelIQ). David.
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
I can right click a movie or whatever and select play to for my Xbox One. Not sure if my Samsung TV shows up but I don't have it plugged in, its essentially a dumb terminal for all the other devices. On that note its the only way I can play movies from my local network on my Xbox One. There's no way to browse the local network with my XBox One. Its majorly crippled. Its easier to play stuff off the Internet than it is from my own network. I tend to use my Gigabyte media center for movies. Rather dissapointing when your newer console is less capable than your older one(s). Progress right? :( Miracast with my Dell Venue 8 is a fail but that's due to my TV not supporting it. Yay for standards... Bleeding edge technology On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:21 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.comwrote: Hi Folks, Has anyone been using DLNA from Windows 8.1 successfully? I went into Control Panel, enabled the Media Streaming options for the correct file types. It showed two Bravia TVs correctly and I enabled access for them. I checked that the WMPNetworkSvc service is running. There also seems to be a firewall exception for it. Even though Win8.1 could see the TVs, neither of them seems to find the Win8.1 machine when searching for servers. I presumed that would be a firewall issue but identical problem when I disabled the firewall during testing. Any clues? The other option would have been to use the PlayTo stuff in Windows 8.1 but even the latest software update for recent Bravia’s doesn’t come up as Windows Certified. I even tried the registry hack to enable non-certified devices but that didn’t work either. It then shows the TVs but complains it needs a WPS PIN. Of course when I looked that up, even though Sony’s ads say they support Miracast, their support site explains that their version of Miracast only works from two specific Sony client devices… sigh After spending a couple of hours trying to make this work, I have yet another new found appreciation for Apple’s AirPlay, even with its warts. I was running in 5 minutes with that… Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
Re: DLNA access from Windows 8.1
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.comwrote: I can right click a movie or whatever and select play to for my Xbox One. Not sure if my Samsung TV shows up but I don't have it plugged in, its essentially a dumb terminal for all the other devices. On that note its the only way I can play movies from my local network on my Xbox One. There's no way to browse the local network with my XBox One. Its majorly crippled. Its easier to play stuff off the Internet than it is from my own network. I tend to use my Gigabyte media center for movies. Rather dissapointing when your newer console is less capable than your older one(s). Progress right? :( Miracast with my Dell Venue 8 is a fail but that's due to my TV not supporting it. Yay for standards... Bleeding edge technology Since finding DIaL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIscovery_And_Launch), DLNA is dead to me. I got a mate in the US to send over a bunch of ChromeCasts and it is the way forward. $35 per first screen and you use 'whatever' phone/tablet/app to tell it to download content. Sure as hell beats the brain dead UX on my Bravia for finding media as the device you send commands from is anything and disconnected from the source and destination of the streaming. It is so frickin simple and widely supported from second screen apps on android/ios. Latest release also supports Plex for local media. YMMV. David.
