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I don't think it died, but I do think that they dropped support for ASP.net technologies a long time ago. But in terms of MVC and razor, I think it's the extension that looks the most funny to me. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Piers Williams Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:10 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Did Dreamweaver die? I wasn't told. On 1 Mar 2013 13:00, "Michael Ridland" mailto:rid...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > [...] > > Many companies try to create WYSIWYG editors but they never work well enough > so they die. >
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Did Dreamweaver die? I wasn't told. On 1 Mar 2013 13:00, "Michael Ridland" wrote: > > [...] > > Many companies try to create WYSIWYG editors but they never work well enough so they die. >
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Most commonly data is centralized in a database or somewhere. This is helpful as it doesn't matter which computer or device a user is using, they get their data. Accessing this is most easily done server-side, and from a security perspective means you don't have to open your database up to anyone on the internet (at least directly). There are JavaScript libraries that could do this, but imho JavaScript is no where near as nice as c# or vb.net via the asp.net framework. In mvc the standard aspx view engine is to my eyes far closer to standard asp. Mind you in those days I recall using response.write a lot. I find razor simply has less mark-up, so to my eyes views looks less confusing and intent is clearer. I found the transition natural to razor, but really it is preference as some people appreciate the more mark-up in vb.net over c#.
RE: Super Sync Sports
Thank you all for the informative answers. I appreciate them. That makes sense actually, since Server-Side technologies are very good for the interactive sites that we run today. Though I have seen plain HTML files with .aspx extensions before. And speaking of MVC, does anyone here ever use the default view which uses .aspx to render? The razor view file extensions look funky to me; probably just me, but it seems that the razor view is like going back to classic ASP 3.0 or something from the 1990's the way it's described. I've not learned it yet, though it's on my list. What do you guys think? . -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Schultz Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 3:12 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports I'm half way through an ASP MVC4 project at the moment which renders HTML5. It's going really well so far. Instead of coming up with my own HTML5 design, I've decided to use Foundation3's, which has some really nice features in automatically adapting for mobile devices and tablets. Similarly to the Twitter bootstrap mentioned before, there's a NuGet Package to install all of Foundation3 pre-requisites into an MVC4 project: http://www.nuget.org/packages/Foundation3_MVC4 It includes a Master Page and a sample page. The only thing I've done myself is replaced the default MVC "View" scaffolding templates with my own based on Foundation3. But replacing these templates is something I'd normally do anyway. On 1 March 2013 14:50, Michael Minutillo wrote: > @Katherine - It's really not that fair to compare HTML5 and > ASP.NET/Phalanger. HTML5 (and JavaScript and CSS3) are all client side > technologies. These pieces combine in the browser to provide a user > experience but at some stage it seems likely that this experience will > need to get data or perform some kind of action on the users behalf > and at that point a server-side technology like ASP.NET/PHP/Node.js > (or any of a million other choices) is going to be required. ASP.NET > (WebForms or MVC) is about abstracting away HTTP. A request comes to > the server and a response is sent back. You can have your MVC View (or > your WebForms page) render perfectly valid HTML5 and produce the same > user experience. You probably could serve up the HTML as just plain > HTML documents and satisfy the request/response parts of the app with WebApi > (or ServiceStack or node.js or anything else). > In fact, from a caching perspective that can be a good idea :) > > Michael M. Minutillo > Indiscriminate Information Sponge > http://codermike.com > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Katherine Moss > > wrote: >> >> Well, maybe I should ask this as a question. I know that most sites >> built on Microsoft use either ASP.net or Phalanger. So, be honest; >> when is ASP.net appropriate and when is plain HTML appropriate? And >> also, I think I've seen this before; a page on a web site that might >> have an ASPX extension, but it's really just an HTML page with no >> code behind. Maybe I'm the dumb one here. >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com >> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Mark Thompson >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:44 PM >> To: 'Paul Evrat'; 'ozDotNet' >> >> >> Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio >> as your HTML5 editor? I haven't tested it with the express editions, >> but according to the Product details I can't see any reason why it >> wouldn't >> work: >> >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-expr >> ess-for-web#product-express-web >> >> >> >> You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free >> and supports a whole range of different languages: >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ >> >> >> >> -Mark >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com >> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Paul Evrat >> Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM >> To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then >> programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there >> is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my
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I'm half way through an ASP MVC4 project at the moment which renders HTML5. It's going really well so far. Instead of coming up with my own HTML5 design, I've decided to use Foundation3's, which has some really nice features in automatically adapting for mobile devices and tablets. Similarly to the Twitter bootstrap mentioned before, there's a NuGet Package to install all of Foundation3 pre-requisites into an MVC4 project: http://www.nuget.org/packages/Foundation3_MVC4 It includes a Master Page and a sample page. The only thing I've done myself is replaced the default MVC "View" scaffolding templates with my own based on Foundation3. But replacing these templates is something I'd normally do anyway. On 1 March 2013 14:50, Michael Minutillo wrote: > @Katherine - It's really not that fair to compare HTML5 and > ASP.NET/Phalanger. HTML5 (and JavaScript and CSS3) are all client side > technologies. These pieces combine in the browser to provide a user > experience but at some stage it seems likely that this experience will need > to get data or perform some kind of action on the users behalf and at that > point a server-side technology like ASP.NET/PHP/Node.js (or any of a million > other choices) is going to be required. ASP.NET (WebForms or MVC) is about > abstracting away HTTP. A request comes to the server and a response is sent > back. You can have your MVC View (or your WebForms page) render perfectly > valid HTML5 and produce the same user experience. You probably could serve > up the HTML as just plain HTML documents and satisfy the request/response > parts of the app with WebApi (or ServiceStack or node.js or anything else). > In fact, from a caching perspective that can be a good idea :) > > Michael M. Minutillo > Indiscriminate Information Sponge > http://codermike.com > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Katherine Moss > wrote: >> >> Well, maybe I should ask this as a question. I know that most sites built >> on Microsoft use either ASP.net or Phalanger. So, be honest; when is >> ASP.net appropriate and when is plain HTML appropriate? And also, I think >> I’ve seen this before; a page on a web site that might have an ASPX >> extension, but it’s really just an HTML page with no code behind. Maybe I’m >> the dumb one here. >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Mark Thompson >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:44 PM >> To: 'Paul Evrat'; 'ozDotNet' >> >> >> Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as >> your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but >> according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t >> work: >> >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web >> >> >> >> You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and >> supports a whole range of different languages: >> >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ >> >> >> >> -Mark >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Paul Evrat >> Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM >> To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme >> .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and >> free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb >> express / asp.net ecpress edition .. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Katherine Moss wrote: >> >> By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML >> with no .net code is ... primitive. >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Paul Evrat >> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM >> To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> >> >> Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a >> html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for >> programming? Or is expressions the only thing? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Preet Sangha wrote: >> >> Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. >> >> >> >> On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: >> >> All HTML5. This is amazing. >> >> >> >> http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Connors >> >> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 >> >> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> >> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors >> >> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> regards, >> Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland > >
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@Katherine - It's really not that fair to compare HTML5 and ASP.NET/Phalanger. HTML5 (and JavaScript and CSS3) are all client side technologies. These pieces combine in the browser to provide a user experience but at some stage it seems likely that this experience will need to get data or perform some kind of action on the users behalf and at that point a server-side technology like ASP.NET/PHP/Node.js (or any of a million other choices) is going to be required. ASP.NET (WebForms or MVC) is about abstracting away HTTP. A request comes to the server and a response is sent back. You can have your MVC View (or your WebForms page) render perfectly valid HTML5 and produce the same user experience. You probably could serve up the HTML as just plain HTML documents and satisfy the request/response parts of the app with WebApi (or ServiceStack or node.js or anything else). In fact, from a caching perspective that can be a good idea :) Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge http://codermike.com On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Katherine Moss wrote: > Well, maybe I should ask this as a question. I know that most sites > built on Microsoft use either ASP.net or Phalanger. So, be honest; when is > ASP.net appropriate and when is plain HTML appropriate? And also, I think > I’ve seen this before; a page on a web site that might have an ASPX > extension, but it’s really just an HTML page with no code behind. Maybe I’m > the dumb one here. > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Thompson > *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:44 PM > *To:* 'Paul Evrat'; 'ozDotNet' > > *Subject:* RE: Super Sync Sports > > ** ** > > Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as > your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but > according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t > work: > > ** ** > > > http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web > > > ** ** > > You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and > supports a whole range of different languages: > > ** ** > > http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ > > ** ** > > -Mark > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Evrat > *Sent:* Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM > *To:* katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* RE: Super Sync Sports > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme > .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and > free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb > express / asp.net ecpress edition .. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > Katherine Moss wrote: > > By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML > with no .net code is ... primitive. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Evrat > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM > *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* Re: Super Sync Sports > > > > > > Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a > html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for > programming? Or is expressions the only thing? > > > > > > > Preet Sangha wrote: > > Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. > > > > On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: > > All HTML5. This is amazing. > > > > http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ > > > > > -- > > David Connors > > da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 > > Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > > Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors > > Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors*** > * > > > > > > > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland >
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Thanks All. The Twitter Bootstrap and that video series look like two little gold mines to me .. Brett Christensen wrote:I can vouch for the Twitter Bootstrap. It's a godsend. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Michael Ridland wrote: Hi Paul I think you'll find the majority of developers hand code html via a texteditor. Since VS's primary function is a text editor it's been able to do html5 before html5 existed. Many companies try to create WYSIWYG editors but they never work well enough so they die. The best tool to help you get started at nice html5 UI would be bootstrappers, like html5boilerplate or twitter bootstraps. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Evrat wrote: Thanks for that. I didn't realise vs now supported html5. Does the editor give full html5 features though? Did anyone ever use vs for high end web presentation / graphics? I'd assumed the good layouts and graphics were done in something else and html inserted into vs for .net functionality programming. Wasn't expressions created to try to fill this gap? Also vs or webmatrix (if you just need .net and js)? I find ms literature tells you every product is the bees knees but provides little to discern similar products from each other. Mark Thompson wrote: Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and supports a whole range of different languages: http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ -Mark From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb express / asp.net ecpress edition .. Katherine Moss wrote: By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
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I can vouch for the Twitter Bootstrap. It's a godsend. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Michael Ridland wrote: > Hi Paul > > I think you'll find the majority of developers hand code html via a > texteditor. Since VS's primary function is a text editor it's been able to > do html5 before html5 existed. > > Many companies try to create WYSIWYG editors but they never work well > enough so they die. > > The best tool to help you get started at nice html5 UI would be > bootstrappers, like html5boilerplate or twitter bootstraps. > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Evrat wrote: > >> >> Thanks for that. I didn't realise vs now supported html5. Does the >> editor give full html5 features though? Did anyone ever use vs for high end >> web presentation / graphics? I'd assumed the good layouts and graphics were >> done in something else and html inserted into vs for .net functionality >> programming. Wasn't expressions created to try to fill this gap? >> >> Also vs or webmatrix (if you just need .net and js)? I find ms >> literature tells you every product is the bees knees but provides little to >> discern similar products from each other. >> >> >> >> Mark Thompson wrote: >> >> Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as >> your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but >> according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t >> work: >> >> ** ** >> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web >> >> >> ** ** >> >> You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and >> supports a whole range of different languages: >> >> ** ** >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -Mark >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat >> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM >> *To:* katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> *Subject:* RE: Super Sync Sports >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme >> .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and >> free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb >> express / asp.net ecpress edition .. >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> Katherine Moss wrote: >> >> By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all >> HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. >> >> >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ >> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On >> Behalf Of *Paul Evrat >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM >> *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> *Subject:* Re: Super Sync Sports >> >> >> >> >> >> Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a >> html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for >> programming? Or is expressions the only thing? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Preet Sangha wrote: >> >> Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. >> >> >> >> On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: >> >> All HTML5. This is amazing. >> >> >> >> http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> David Connors >> >> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 >> >> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> >> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors >> >> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors** >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> regards, >> Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland >> >> >
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Hi Paul I think you'll find the majority of developers hand code html via a texteditor. Since VS's primary function is a text editor it's been able to do html5 before html5 existed. Many companies try to create WYSIWYG editors but they never work well enough so they die. The best tool to help you get started at nice html5 UI would be bootstrappers, like html5boilerplate or twitter bootstraps. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Paul Evrat wrote: > > Thanks for that. I didn't realise vs now supported html5. Does the editor > give full html5 features though? Did anyone ever use vs for high end web > presentation / graphics? I'd assumed the good layouts and graphics were > done in something else and html inserted into vs for .net functionality > programming. Wasn't expressions created to try to fill this gap? > > Also vs or webmatrix (if you just need .net and js)? I find ms literature > tells you every product is the bees knees but provides little to discern > similar products from each other. > > > > Mark Thompson wrote: > > Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as > your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but > according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t > work: > > ** ** > > > http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web > > > ** ** > > You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and > supports a whole range of different languages: > > ** ** > > http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ > > ** ** > > -Mark > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat > *Sent:* Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM > *To:* katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* RE: Super Sync Sports > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme > .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and > free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb > express / asp.net ecpress edition .. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > Katherine Moss wrote: > > By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML > with no .net code is ... primitive. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Evrat > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM > *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* Re: Super Sync Sports > > > > > > Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a > html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for > programming? Or is expressions the only thing? > > > > > > > Preet Sangha wrote: > > Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. > > > > On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: > > All HTML5. This is amazing. > > > > http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ > > > > > -- > > David Connors > > da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 > > Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > > Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors > > Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors*** > * > > > > > > > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland > >
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Thanks for that. I didn't realise vs now supported html5. Does the editor give full html5 features though? Did anyone ever use vs for high end web presentation / graphics? I'd assumed the good layouts and graphics were done in something else and html inserted into vs for .net functionality programming. Wasn't expressions created to try to fill this gap? Also vs or webmatrix (if you just need .net and js)? I find ms literature tells you every product is the bees knees but provides little to discern similar products from each other. Mark Thompson wrote:Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and supports a whole range of different languages: http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ -Mark From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb express / asp.net ecpress edition .. Katherine Moss wrote: By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
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Well, maybe I should ask this as a question. I know that most sites built on Microsoft use either ASP.net or Phalanger. So, be honest; when is ASP.net appropriate and when is plain HTML appropriate? And also, I think I’ve seen this before; a page on a web site that might have an ASPX extension, but it’s really just an HTML page with no code behind. Maybe I’m the dumb one here. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:44 PM To: 'Paul Evrat'; 'ozDotNet' Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and supports a whole range of different languages: http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ -Mark From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu<mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu>; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb express / asp.net ecpress edition .. Katherine Moss mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu>> wrote: By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha mailto:preetsan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com> | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Super Sync Sports
Um, I might be missing something, but why not just use Visual Studio as your HTML5 editor? I haven’t tested it with the express editions, but according to the Product details I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work: http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/products/visual-studio-express-for-web#product-express-web You may also want to have a look at WebMatrix 2 which is also free and supports a whole range of different languages: http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/ -Mark From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 4:47 PM To: katherine.m...@gordon.edu; ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: RE: Super Sync Sports I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb express / asp.net ecpress edition .. Katherine Moss wrote: By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
RE: Super Sync Sports
I'm asking if you can mix html5 features from an editor then programme .net into it for the back end functionality? Also if there is a good and free html5 editor for the purpose. Do you can judge my level, I'm using vb express / asp.net ecpress edition .. Katherine Moss wrote:By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: Super Sync Sports
Ohhh someone be trollin' On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Joseph Cooney wrote: > Why do you say that? > On 28 Feb 2013 16:02, "Katherine Moss" wrote: > >> By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all >> HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM >> *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com >> *Subject:* Re: Super Sync Sports >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a >> html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for >> programming? Or is expressions the only thing? >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> Preet Sangha wrote: >> >> Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. >> >> ** ** >> >> On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: >> >> All HTML5. This is amazing. >> >> ** ** >> >> http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ >> >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> >> David Connors >> >> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 >> >> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors >> >> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors >> >> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors** >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> regards, >> Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland >> >
RE: Super Sync Sports
Why do you say that? On 28 Feb 2013 16:02, "Katherine Moss" wrote: > By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all > HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. > > ** ** > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM > *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > *Subject:* Re: Super Sync Sports > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a > html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for > programming? Or is expressions the only thing? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > Preet Sangha wrote: > > Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. > > ** ** > > On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: > > All HTML5. This is amazing. > > ** ** > > http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ > > > ** ** > > -- > > David Connors > > da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 > > Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > > Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors > > Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors*** > * > > > > > > ** ** > > -- > regards, > Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland >
RE: Super Sync Sports
By the way, where does ASP.net come into that? Writing a site in all HTML with no .net code is ... primitive. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Paul Evrat Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:30 PM To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: Super Sync Sports Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha mailto:preetsan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com<mailto:da...@connors.com> | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: Super Sync Sports
Immersed in snow on my android phone??!! Amateur question - is there a html5 editor (pref free) that can integrate with visual studio for programming? Or is expressions the only thing? Preet Sangha wrote:Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: All HTML5. This is amazing. http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ -- David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
Re: Super Sync Sports
Bloody interesting look at the future of immersive computing. On 28 February 2013 11:33, David Connors wrote: > All HTML5. This is amazing. > > http://www.chrome.com/supersyncsports/ > > -- > David Connors > da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 > Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors > Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors > -- regards, Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
