Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
Agreed. Web Essentials looks cool! On 5 October 2012 16:50, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: That's cool. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Heinrich Breedt heinrichbre...@gmail.comwrote: I prefer Web Essentials: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/07d54d12-7133-4e15-becb-6f451ea3bea6 Has Less, SCSS and Coffeescript support, and now with TypeScript added (with sourcemaps) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript. ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg -- Heinrich Breedt “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” - William B. Sprague
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
I prefer Web Essentials: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/07d54d12-7133-4e15-becb-6f451ea3bea6 Has Less, SCSS and Coffeescript support, and now with TypeScript added (with sourcemaps) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.* *** ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg -- Heinrich Breedt “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” - William B. Sprague
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
That's cool. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Heinrich Breedt heinrichbre...@gmail.comwrote: I prefer Web Essentials: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/07d54d12-7133-4e15-becb-6f451ea3bea6 Has Less, SCSS and Coffeescript support, and now with TypeScript added (with sourcemaps) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript. ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg -- Heinrich Breedt “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” - William B. Sprague
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
There is also SASS I've been meaning to try SassAndCoffee https://github.com/xpaulbettsx/SassAndCoffee which is a runtime compiler (no plugins required) Michael M. Minutillo Indiscriminate Information Sponge http://codermike.com On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: That's cool. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Heinrich Breedt heinrichbre...@gmail.comwrote: I prefer Web Essentials: http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/07d54d12-7133-4e15-becb-6f451ea3bea6 Has Less, SCSS and Coffeescript support, and now with TypeScript added (with sourcemaps) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript. ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg -- Heinrich Breedt “Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking.” - William B. Sprague
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
RE: Opinions of TypeScript?
While I'm still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript. I think my favorite quote so far is, hate JavaScript, then you'll love TypeScript! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Davy Jones Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Opinions of TypeScript? I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.netmailto:g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I'm downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790 for it to see what it's like. Let's face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
One tip I found (via twitter) is to generate source map for TypeScript which will help with debugging (In Chrome and Firefox) - http://www.aaron-powell.com/web/typescript-source-maps On 5 October 2012 09:23, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.*** * ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.com wrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript. I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Davy Jones Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Opinions of TypeScript? I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSI for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.*** * ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
Re: Opinions of TypeScript?
Yeah I use SCSS would not do web without it(well now anyway) there's a plugin called web workbench that will auto convert to normal css on save. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Luu will@gmail.com wrote: With regards to CSS. I've recently begun looking at a Project called Less CSS - http://lesscss.org with an associated .NET dynamic compiler - http://www.dotlesscss.org Like TypeScript, Less CSS is still CSS but with extra syntactic sugar on top (as well as other features). Has anyone else had experience with Less CSS? On 5 October 2012 14:03, Scott Barnes scott.bar...@gmail.com wrote: JavaScript is dead to me.. I bow before the typescript ecma 6 overlords .. Now to convert CSS to resource dictionaries and I may actually high five HTML again On 05/10/2012, at 9:24 AM, Michael Ridland rid...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I spent 9 months full time doing Javascript building a large application, I was open minded and learnt to like it. But coming back to c# recently I realised just how many leagues better c# was than javascript(I don't dare say this at sydjs). Typescript bring some really nice things to javascript that c# has but it's still very much javascript(more than others eg CoffeeeScript). I can say TypeScript is amazingly awesome, you get the best of both worlds. Like Coffeescript does, TypeScript will make you a much better javascript programmer. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:14 AM, David Kean david.k...@microsoft.comwrote: While I’m still skeptical, the one advantage over other similar projects (such as Dart), is that it interops with existing JavaScript.** ** ** ** I think my favorite quote so far is, “hate JavaScript, then you’ll love TypeScript!” ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Davy Jones *Sent:* Thursday, October 4, 2012 1:41 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: Opinions of TypeScript? ** ** I haven't looked at it and probably won't. As far as I can see, the only new thing is static typing? JavaScript already has oo. There are enough technologies around js already why confuse matters more? ** ** Davy Sent from my starfleet datapad. On 4 oct. 2012, at 10:27, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Folks, I just heard about TypeScripthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TypeScript. It superficially seems like a good idea. Has anyone tried it? I’m downloading the VS2012 MSIhttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=34790for it to see what it’s like. Let’s face, anything that makes JavaScript development easier will be welcome, but will TypeScript help or hinder? -- Greg
