Crime of Pack Rape
This crime is unforgivable- wonder if this was the Judges daughter or the Jurys children got treated like this- how theyd feel as well the sister of these BIG brave Men, gotter be in a pack to get their thrills! When is this going to stop!!! By this treatment the crime doesnt just get forgiven and forgotten by the victim like the boys- it lives on in her mind and can have repercussions influencing her life and relationships later! Was this Australia It happens in other countries in the Middle East and Asia- Why do these Migratns bring their Filthy ideas and low morals here to Australia. Deport them and others who think our women- [nay! young girls and children] should be treated like this After being Here in Pakistan I am very aware of the treatment of women,children and Animals and their abuse sexually for kicks! Robyn Aulmann -Original Message- From: Colin Larkin Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 13:14 To: Alex (E-mail); Andy (E-mail); Kpkitchens (E-mail) Subject: I have been deeply disturbed by the recent court case where two 16 year old girls were gang raped by three men. The girls were on their way home at about 1am and were having difficulties getting a taxi from Beverley Hills station. These men pulled up in their car, jumped out and surrounded the girls, forcing them into the car at knife-point (though this information was deleted from the girls statements and therefore from the court hearing, in order to ensure a successful plea-bargain with the offenders). These three men, without remorse held the girls at knife point, and took it in turns to rape them both, over and over again for around five hours. You could imagine their terror - not knowing whether they would live or die and the humiliation of being used as a piece of meat with no regards to their tears and cries for help. The three men were sentenced yesterday. Two were given five (parole - 2 years) and six (parole - 3 years) year jail terms - the other, just one year, which means that he will be out in three weeks as he has already served a year awaiting trial. One of the men who migrated here eight years ago, said he had no idea that it was against Australian law to pick up young girls and gang rape them at knife point. This seems to be one of District Court Judge Megan Lethams excuses for her ruling. Another was that the boys father had died the previous year. These are not excuses. There are no excuses. The charge of kidnapping was never even considered due the absence of that information from the girls statements. It was in fact, made out that the girls went willingly which somehow manages to translate into a lighter sentence. Regardless of whether they went willingly or not, no one deserves to be brutalised in this way. You may be aware the controversy and media attention that has surrounded this case but THIS IS NOT A RACIAL ISSUE, simply a plea to the Law Enforcers of this country to ensure that the punishment fits the crime - do not let political correctness influence (or bully) the courts. Send a message to the wider community that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated. We should be protecting our women and especially our CHILDREN. The girls were only 16 years old when this heinous crime was committed. One is about to sit her HSC so you can imagine how this result will be affecting her right now. This petition is to voice the publics extreme disapproval of judges going soft on rapists and that we demand justice. It will be printed and sent to Premier Bob Carr, Prime Minister John Howard, Opposition Leader Kim Beazley, Police Commissioner Peter Ryan, Federal Minister for Justice Chris Ellison, Democrat Leader Natasha Stott-Despoja, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Australian, The Daily Telegraph and all major radio stations. Please copy and paste this email, and add your name to the bottom of this list. If you are the 50th (or 100th, 150th, 200th etc...) please copy the below address into your TO box and forward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please send this email on to everyone, male and female. This is a community issue. Help us protest against Australia becoming an unsafe place for women. 1. Rachael Brown, NSW 2. Samantha West, NSW 3. Claire Forrest, NSW 4. Roger Pearce, NSW 5. Gabrielle Santino, NSW 6. Sarah Whitaker, NSW 7. Sarah Stanbridge, NSW 8. Louisa Worladge, NSW 9. Melissa Siasat, NSW 10. Lesley-Ann Dunn, NSW 11. Judy Torres, NSW 12. Gavin Walker,NSW 13. Emma Walker, Sydney NSW 14. Roslyn Campbell, Sydney NSW 15. Alison Lau, Sydney NSW 16. Dawn Weber, Sydney
ANF MIDWIVES
Dear All, What the hell does the ANF in Victoria have to do with Midwifery and ratio to mother/midwife? Was ACMI consulted? Nursing does not have ANYTHING to do with Midwifery and when are we and the nursing profession and their exponents going to realise this. I am offended and angry that again, nurses and their associations etc are dictating to Midwives on their profession. I am sure they would not be happy if the decision was reversed, would they? Is this decision/endorsement for the mother/midwife ratio for Victoria alone or does ANF have a say nationally? We cannot let this happen. How dare they What can we do? I am well and truely p*d off about this. Anne Clarke Brisbane
Re: ANF MIDWIVES
Relax Anne it is not a national issue and is a part of industrial negotiations in the latest enterprise agreement in Victoria. Whether we like it or not the majority, by a long way, of registered midwives in Victoria are members of the ANF and as such give the ANF the right to negotiate on their behalf. Now those of us who are members of the ACMI might believe that they should ask the ACMI for an opinion on things relating to midwifery but the reality is that they are under no obligation to do this and until more midwives belong to the ACMI this is not going to happen with any certainty. Now I'll admit that the majority are not really putting much thought into who is better equipped to look after the interests of midwives but for whatever their reason this is the way they are choosing to vote by their membership. Despite all our beliefs we have to continue to live in the real world and not think that things will be the way we would like them to be just by wishing. This insurance issue is going to further widen the gap in Victoria as many independent midwives have belonged to ANF for the insurance and they may not choose to continue this although as in my own case until I have an alternative insurance cover it is still all I have to cover the work I dod do in a hospital. Andrea Quanchi Anne Clarke wrote: Dear All,What the hell does the ANF in Victoria have to do with Midwifery and ratio to mother/midwife?Was ACMI consulted?Nursing does not have ANYTHING to do with Midwifery and when are we and the nursing profession and their exponents going to realise this.I am offended and angry that again, nurses and their associations etc are dictating to Midwives on their profession. I am sure they would not be happy if the decision was reversed, would they?Is this decision/endorsement for the mother/midwife ratio for Victoria alone or does ANF have a say nationally?We cannot let this happen. How dare theyWhat can we do?I am well and truely p*d off about this.Anne ClarkeBrisbane
My view
Well today is the first time I have had the time or the energy to put my thoughts on paper about the insurance issue. The ANF rang me and asked me to come to the meeting on Thursday so I changed all my appointments and made arrangements to go. I saw a client who was due on September 6th and she had not had any signs of impending labour and so I asked her to ring me before 7am if that changed. She rang at 0640 to say that her membranes had ruptured so leaving here for over 7 hours to attend the meeting was not on. I did ring the ANF to apologise but notice by Joy's notes that I was not on the apologies list. The birth story is worth the telling but not the subject of this letter but I guess things happen for a reason and she obliged bu having her baby on August 31st while I still was covered ( I think) by the existing policy. Those of you in a similar situation will, and the remainder probably will have difficulty, understanding how I feel at this moment. Just sitting here I can hardly see the keys for the tears that have been so close to the surface for the last twenty four hours. I guess I knew in my heart that this was going to be the outcome but I could never give up hope that a solution would be found and that the ANF would put up the cost of the policies of all ANF members to continue to give woman the right to choose where they give birth and who it is that they want to have with them. I am sitting here not considering giving up my practice. I can't. I haven't been through what I have over the last two years to give it up now. I haven't even been to a home birth yet and have just booked my first client that wants one. I'm working out how to go about continuing. I totally respect the right of the ACMI to advise me not to practice without insurance as at the moment it is a part of their policy that all midwives have insurance and that was fine while it was available but if I have to choose between being a member of the ACMI and practicing then they had better be looking quickly at that part of the policy. The nurses board of Victoria are in the same situation. My long suffering husband, with the patience of a saint, has stood by my side throughout all this and simply sat beside me yesterday and said well what do we do now? Looking at ways to get rid of all my assets is probably the answer. You have to look at this from a lawyers perspective as that is who is driving this. That is where all the litigation stuff is coming from. Lawyers don't take on cases where there is little likelihood of a payout and if I don't have any assets then they can sue away but you can't get blood out of a stone. I have absolutely no fear of being sued by a woman and all of the clients I have at this stage have volunteered without prompting to sign a disclaimer rather than give up the option of having me provide their care. But I think the deal is legally they can't sign a disclaimer on behalf of their baby and that is where a case will come form if one ever does. Well I guess the ACMI conference in a couple of weeks is going to give us the opportunity to get together and discuss this and I for one am glad to be going. I feel better now after having talked to you all and over the last two years this list has been a god send for support and for that I Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
ANF
Dear Andrea and all, That might be well and good that most Midwives are members of the ANF in Victoria, but do they realise that the ANF is taking a Nursing perspective not a Midwives perspective while so called 'representing' them to the Gov.? I would hope that ANF member Midwives are clued into this and get involved because it sounds that their membership to the ANF is not worth the money if the ANF is flushing their practice down the toilet! As far as the insurance cover, do they know that NO union covers their members for indemnity only legal? If the Nurses Union here in Queensland covered me for the indemnity part of insurance I too would be happy, but they don't, only limited legal cover. The hospital, if a staff member, covers for indemnity, that's if they don't drop you like a hot potato in court, beleive me if it means you or them, who do you think they would leave 'holding the proverbial bag'. The legal cover you may gain from the union may help to a point in court (hearing), but the person(s)taking the actioncan still take you to civil court. If the ANF have asked you to participate, I would hope that you would make them realise that they have members who are Midwives not Nurses and to have an arm of Midwives (that practice Midwifery mind you) that deal with members issues that pertain to Midwives. Midwives who are members of the ANF in Victoria should be up in arms about the ANF discussing Midwiferyissues that they (ANF)OBVIOUSLY do not understand or they wouldn't have negotiated or suggested such ludicrous mother/midwife ratio's. Put them right Andrea and our Victorian Colleagues NOW NOW NOW. Anne Clarke Brisbane
