Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread Sue Cookson

Hi,
I am very aware that some of the requests we put up go round and round.
Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths, with
respect to Strep B, thrush, Herpes and mec stained liquor ie whether risk of
infection/problem is increased/decreased in a water environment.

Also could do with copies of existing waterbirth protocols in relation to
these conditions.

I have to add that it seems harder and harder to encourage women that they
can birth normally when all these tests and controls apply!!

Frustratedly yours,
Sue Cookson 


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FW: WOMEN'S HEALTH MAC consultations

2001-11-16 Thread Johnston

Victorian women please note:

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Subject:WOMEN'S HEALTH MAC consultations

PLEASE CONTACT EMMA GLOUFTIS ph (03) 9616 8047 FOR MORE DETAILS
The Ministerial Advisory Committee on Women's Health  Wellbeing want women 
to participate the the development of the Victorian Women's Health  
Wellbeing Strategy.  A discussion paper has been developed for input. (the 
paper can be accessed at www.women.vic.gov.au)  Also if you book into a 
consultation Emma will send you a copy.
Attached are the details of statewide consultions  times.

1 November 2001

Dear Women and Service Providers,

On behalf of the Ministerial Advisory Committee on Women's Health and 
Wellbeing (MACWHW) and the Department of Human Services, we are writing to 
invite you to participate in the development of the Victorian Women's 
Health and Wellbeing Strategy (WHWS).

The WHWS is a commitment by this Government to develop a policy and 
strategy that aims to:
* Improve the health and wellbeing of Victorian women, particularly those 
most at risk; and
* Provide a policy framework for planning, funding and delivery of services 
to women in relation to their health and wellbeing

Over the past months the MACWHW has been consulting with 5 population 
groups of women who previously have not been consulted fully or whose needs 
have been under researched.  These are Koori women, women with 
disabilities, working women (paid and unpaid), women in and post release 
from prison and lesbians.

We have now analysed that information, added to it the material gathered 
from previously held consultations and areas of research, to develop a 
Discussion Paper.  The paper outlines key action areas, principles and 
possible directions and strategies for feedback.  These directions and 
strategies aim to target those population groups and issues which most s  
ignificantly affect the health and wellbeing status of women.

We would like to hear your thoughts on the paper in general, and answers to 
the questions that will be explored in the forthcoming workshops.

To this end, we are holding 14 consultations across Victoria in November 
and December.  A schedule of those consultations is attached to this 
invitation and we would welcome your involvement.  Childcare, transport, 
interpreters and catering will be provided with adequate notice.

Please respond to Emma Glouftis on (03) 96168047 before 4pm by the required 
RSVP date listed on the schedule to confirm your attendance and your 
requirements for the day.  You will be sent a copy of the Discussion Paper, 
which you can also access on www.women.vic.gov.au

We look forward to meeting with you and working with you to further improve 
the health and wellbeing of Victorian women.

Yours sincerely,

The Hon Caroline Hogg MP
Chair
Ministerial Advisory Committee on Women's Health and Wellbeing



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BMJ Alerts of interest.

2001-11-16 Thread Jackie Mawson
Title: BMJ Alerts of interest.



From the British Medical Journal email alerts. For interest -
BB Jackie Mawson.
===
Women's Health: Pregnancy

http://bmj.com/cgi/collection/pregnancy


Promoting normality in childbirth
Richard Johanson and Mary Newburn
BMJ 2001;323 1142-1143

==
Women's Health: Reproductive medicine

http://bmj.com/cgi/collection/reproductive_medicine


Unwanted caesarean sections among public and private patients in Brazil: 
prospective study
Joseph E Potter, Elza Berquo, Ignez H O Perpetuo, Ondina Fachel Leal, 
Kristine Hopkins, Marta Rovery Souza, and Maria Celia de Carvalho 
Formiga
BMJ 2001;323 1155-1158

===

To unsubscribe from or edit your subscriptions to any bmj.com Customised 
Alert, point your browser at http://bmj.com/cgi/customalert .





Re: BMJ Alerts of interest... Oops!

2001-11-16 Thread Jackie Mawson
Title: Re: BMJ Alerts of interest... Oops!



From the British Medical Journal email alerts. For interest -

Sorry to double up, Carolyn... Should read all my emails before sending on something of interest... Oops!
BB Jackie Mawson.





Re: short cord

2001-11-16 Thread Kleimar

Hi all: Mareeba is in far north Queensland, the Atherton tableland, north 
west of Cairns. My grandmother lived in Mt. Molloy which is a very small town 
north of Mareeba on the road to Cooktown.
love, marilyn
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Re: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread Kleimar

Hi all again: where I am in Washington State, USA  I have had the opportunity 
to participate  in a number of water births at home and in free standing 
birth centers. We (the midwives I have precepted with) do offer our mom's to 
culture or not to culture with Strep B (GBS) and risk based or culture based 
protocols per the CDC guidelines, GBS status does not preclude water birth. 
The reasons we advise against birthing in the tub (if this is the mom's 
choice)are around fetal distress and meconium liquor. If we are expecting a 
depressed baby we prefer to birth on land just because of the time saved if 
resuccitation is needed. If there is moderate to significant mec again we 
prefer to birth on land so that we can suction on the perineum. I don't think 
any of these protocols are based on research but rather experience and 
opinion. I do know of other midwives who don't follow either of these 
guidelines. Again a hx of herpes does not preclude water birth. Obviously 
vaginal/cervial lesions at time of birth would (as they would probably 
indicate a c/s), however I have attended a number of births with mom's who 
have a hx of herpes and none have had lesions at time of birth, however we 
are always vigilant. Both the Cochrane data base and Midirs have research on 
these questions, try also PubMed and BMJ for full text articles.
take care, marilyn
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RE: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread David Simon

Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths
The RCOG has a statement and reference list.
 http://www.rcog.org.uk/medical/birth.html
David




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Re: RE: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread leighmidwife

David
You will some info on Sheila Kitzinger's site. www.sheilakitzinger.org. Leigh
 
 From: David Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec
 Date: 17/11/2001 10:59:26
 To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths
 The RCOG has a statement and reference list.
  http://www.rcog.org.uk/medical/birth.html
 David
 
 
 
 
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Re: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread sheryl

Sue,
at the Birth Centre at Royal Womens in Sydney, part of the waterbirth
protocol is for women with mec staining to not birth in water, but GBS pos
are not precluded. Nor is there anything in our policy about herpes or
thrush and waterbirth.
Can mail you a copy of our policy if you like?

Regards,
Sheryl
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From: Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 2:57 PM
Subject: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec


 Hi,
 I am very aware that some of the requests we put up go round and round.
 Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths, with
 respect to Strep B, thrush, Herpes and mec stained liquor ie whether risk
of
 infection/problem is increased/decreased in a water environment.

 Also could do with copies of existing waterbirth protocols in relation to
 these conditions.

 I have to add that it seems harder and harder to encourage women that they
 can birth normally when all these tests and controls apply!!

 Frustratedly yours,
 Sue Cookson


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Re: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread Mary Murphy

Dear David, In reading the RCOG list, it is all hypothetical.  As a
waterbirther of 14 yrs, I have never encountered any of the problems listed
by RCOG.  I also believe that it is not contraindicated if mec liqour is
evident, because the birth into water seems to wash the mec OUT of the
orifices, unlike suction which might stimulate the infant to gasp.  So far
the only genuine contraindication I haave found is  if the woman wants to
get out of the water or doesn't want to get in.  This I listen to.  Regards,
Mary Murphy
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From: David Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sue Cookson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec


 Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths
 The RCOG has a statement and reference list.
  http://www.rcog.org.uk/medical/birth.html
 David




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Re: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec

2001-11-16 Thread Lois Wattis

Great answer Mary!  Love Lois

- Original Message -
From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sue Cookson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec


Dear David, In reading the RCOG list, it is all hypothetical.  As a
waterbirther of 14 yrs, I have never encountered any of the problems listed
by RCOG.  I also believe that it is not contraindicated if mec liqour is
evident, because the birth into water seems to wash the mec OUT of the
orifices, unlike suction which might stimulate the infant to gasp.  So far
the only genuine contraindication I haave found is  if the woman wants to
get out of the water or doesn't want to get in.  This I listen to.  Regards,
Mary Murphy
- Original Message -
From: David Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sue Cookson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: Waterbirth, Strep B, Thrush, Herpes2 and mec


 Right now I need some help with research relating to waterbirths
 The RCOG has a statement and reference list.
  http://www.rcog.org.uk/medical/birth.html
 David




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