RE: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
If
Ruby can only settle and sleep on her tummy, then so be it! All my babies were
tummy sleepers. Try relaxation baths, bath with mummy or daddy, warm wrap
closely and cuddle. It is normal for babies to want to be on their tummies. This
position helps them maintain body temp, helps them feel secure and 'protects
them from predators'{primitive instinct] . SIDs recommendations have made
us so very scared, but if we are careful, ensure bub doesn't get
overheated and the head and face uncovered then what is best, a baby crying or
sleeping? Have you tried sleeping with the baby in bed with the mum? I
sometimes suggest a item of clothing mum has been wearing under bub's head so
bub can smell mum. Two of mine were very unsettled. One ended up
with ADHD and the other has audio-perception problems. Makes me wonder if these
littlies will always have trouble getting us to understand their special
needs. But for now sleep is required for ALL the family. Try the bath,
warm and gentle. Try co-sleeping and tummy sleeping. Sometimes nothing
works, so support and help are so so necessary.
Maureen.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sheena
JohnsonSent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:26 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery]
SIDS
I am a mid student and have just joined this
site. I also have a new 5 week baby living with us, she was 3 weeks prem and
is our grandchild. I was wondering if anyone can help. Baby Ruby has not slept
for 2 weeks now, she has really bad colic. Lynley has done all the right
things regarding breastfeeding, spent the day with the Lactation Consultatant,
sorted out too much fore milk which was contributing to explosive green
stools, tried everything to get Ruby to sleep. Lynley and partner (my stepson)
live 200 yards away from us. Last night I invited Lynley over to our house and
I did night duty, changing and burping Rubywhile Lynley just
woke to feed. I got two hours sleep for the night. The only time Ruby slept
was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In
desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and
bingo! she is still asleep. When I put her on her side or back the wind pains
wake her up and hurt her; on her stomach she grunts and pulls her knees up,
wriggles around, then goes back to sleep. So what do we do now, with all the
advice against stomach sleeping? Does anyone have any advice out
there.
Regards Sheena
Johnson
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Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM
2300km north of Sydney, Denise. From memory about 200km south of Cairns. marilyn - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM Dear marilyn How far north are you??Denise - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM I looked up PPROM AND recurrence on Pubmed and came up with the following 3 references: 1: Doody DR, Patterson MQ, Voigt LF, Mueller BA. Related Articles Risk factors for the recurrence of premature rupture of the membranes.Paediatr Perinat Epidemiol. 1997 Jan;11 Suppl 1:96-106.PMID: 9018719 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 2: Regenstein AC, Main DM. Related Articles Antenatal care of the patient with previous preterm premature rupture of membranes.Obstet Gynecol Clin North Am. 1992 Jun;19(2):387-95. Review.PMID: 1630745 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 3: Hadley CB, Main DM, Gabbe SG. Related Articles Risk factors for preterm premature rupture of the fetal membranes.Am J Perinatol. 1990 Oct;7(4):374-9.PMID: 633 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] I had a quick look at the abstracts and it seems as though these researchers have looked retrospectively at various risk factors from smoking, ethnicity,lifestyle to infections and parity amongst others and have found an association with smoking and parity and history of PPROM. Mostly it is inconclusive and still being investigated. Anyway, you can find these by searching for Pubmed and then searching their data base. marilyn ps I have arrived in Tully: 4 and 1/2 days from Sydney, I had a nice drive: 2300km. - Original Message - From: kezza07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM Thanks Deb, I've already looked there but unfortunatly ECPC dosn't address the issue of "recurrent preterm prelabour SROM" in subsequent pregnanciesThis is where I'm having difficulty finding infoAny other suggestions?? Kez xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/10/02 12:28:47 PM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone out there point me in the right direction to get some evidenced based research for Shazza? The latest edition of Effective Care in Pregnancy and Childbirth has a chapter on prelabour ROM, and discusses preterm ROM in some detail. Debbie Slater Perth, WA
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc
Well said Mary. it can be a very delicate balance at times but definetly worth it. marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc After replying to Joy's message I was thinking about where that "pressure in my head" came from. It wasn't because I was afraid about the baby. The movements were more than adequate, on palpation there was plenty of fluid. All other obs were perfect. Both of us felt that the baby was o.k. I think that the pressure comes from a collective sense of responsibility when part of a larger birthing community. The Community Midwifery Program is always under political pressure from the doctors to not put a foot wrong.Always defending us for our "un-orthodox"(ie non-interventionist) practice. My daughter is a client of that program and I am a midwife contracted to that program. Because of that it is always important for us to be seen to be doing the "right" thing. I felt that we were more or less obliged to do what is assumed to be "right" by the mainstream community. (except for being induced at 7-10 days which is fast becoming the rule at our large teaching hospital). It is something for you all to think about when contemplating NMAP. The gains outweigh the losses, but for midwives there is ALWAYS that loss of true autonomy, for the client a trade of a free homebirth, for some subtle pressures, increased protocols and that sense of responsibility to make sure the Program itself is not damaged, for the greater good. On the whole the existance of the Community Program has been just wonderful and I urge you all to work towards it, but these are some of the drawbacks. Cheers, mary M
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
Sheena You might try Natren Lifestart which is a powder form of bifidobacterium. Babies will often get gut pain from oversupply as they get too much of the sugar component of the milk which causes the explosive diarrhoea that you mentioned. When this occurs the baby's gut gets depleted of theenzyme which deals with the sugars which causes a form of lactose intolerance ie increased gas production, gut pain and unsettled behaviour. The bifidobacterium helps to mature the gut of the newbornand increase their lactase (enzyme from small intestine) production. It is very helpful to recover the gut damage that can occur from this type of lactose overload from oversupply or from antibiotic therapy in either mother or baby. Hope this helps SandraEales IBCLC - Original Message - From: Sheena Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] SIDS I am a mid student and have just joined this site. I also have a new 5 week baby living with us, she was 3 weeks prem and is our grandchild. I was wondering if anyone can help. Baby Ruby has not slept for 2 weeks now, she has really bad colic. Lynley has done all the right things regarding breastfeeding, spent the day with the Lactation Consultatant, sorted out too much fore milk which was contributing to explosive green stools, tried everything to get Ruby to sleep. Lynley and partner (my stepson) live 200 yards away from us. Last night I invited Lynley over to our house and I did night duty, changing and burping Rubywhile Lynley just woke to feed. I got two hours sleep for the night. The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleep. When I put her on her side or back the wind pains wake her up and hurt her; on her stomach she grunts and pulls her knees up, wriggles around, then goes back to sleep. So what do we do now, with all the advice against stomach sleeping? Does anyone have any advice out there. Regards Sheena Johnson
Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM
Keep travelling safely Denise - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM 2300km north of Sydney, Denise. From memory about 200km south of Cairns. marilyn - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM Dear marilyn How far north are you??Denise - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM I looked up PPROM AND recurrence on Pubmed and came up with the following 3 references: 1: Doody DR, Patterson MQ, Voigt LF, Mueller BA. Related Articles Risk factors for the recurrence of premature rupture of the membranes.Paediatr Perinat Epidemiol. 1997 Jan;11 Suppl 1:96-106.PMID: 9018719 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 2: Regenstein AC, Main DM. Related Articles Antenatal care of the patient with previous preterm premature rupture of membranes.Obstet Gynecol Clin North Am. 1992 Jun;19(2):387-95. Review.PMID: 1630745 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 3: Hadley CB, Main DM, Gabbe SG. Related Articles Risk factors for preterm premature rupture of the fetal membranes.Am J Perinatol. 1990 Oct;7(4):374-9.PMID: 633 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] I had a quick look at the abstracts and it seems as though these researchers have looked retrospectively at various risk factors from smoking, ethnicity,lifestyle to infections and parity amongst others and have found an association with smoking and parity and history of PPROM. Mostly it is inconclusive and still being investigated. Anyway, you can find these by searching for Pubmed and then searching their data base. marilyn ps I have arrived in Tully: 4 and 1/2 days from Sydney, I had a nice drive: 2300km. - Original Message - From: kezza07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] recurrent preterm ROM Thanks Deb, I've already looked there but unfortunatly ECPC dosn't address the issue of "recurrent preterm prelabour SROM" in subsequent pregnanciesThis is where I'm having difficulty finding infoAny other suggestions?? Kez xxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/10/02 12:28:47 PM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone out there point me in the right direction to get some evidenced based research for Shazza? The latest edition of Effective Care in Pregnancy and Childbirth has a chapter on prelabour ROM, and discusses preterm ROM in some detail. Debbie Slater Perth, WA
Re: [ozmidwifery] Overdue baby
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Overdue baby Fantastic Mary, What a mother, what a grandmother!! Sue Good News! My daughter has FINALLY given birth. 19 days post dated U/s more by LMP. Gabriel was born after a gentle 6hr labour and waterbirth at 1800hrs 10/8/02 weighing in at 5.2kgs. ( I think about 11lbs 4oz.) Beautiful healthy placenta, 800gms, 200mls blood loss. No oxytocin, no tears or grazes. Apgars 7 10. No resusc needed (except for midwife/grandma) Many thanks for the support of my wonderful midwife friend Susanjane Morison. Cheers, Mary Murphy
RE: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc
Mary hashighlighted some deep, complex and importantissues here regarding the pressure faced by midwives when working in a systems model, however that model is configured. The collective sense of responsibility, the political pressure, the need to defend the 'unorthodox', our protocol bound profession and the need to be 'doing the right thing' by the mainstream are all powerful considerations at any time. Mary's comments have had me thinking all afternoon as I juggled the various aspects in my head and heart. My guess is that it comes back to woman centered care, how the woman is feeling and what she in her head and heart wants to do. If the woman feels safe and certainin herself, then she will knowwhat is right for her. If she is uncertain/fearful, then that is what is needed to be taken into account, no matter what the model of care is or who or what is directing the management of the model. Women know themselves better than any so called expert. If a woman is worried, I'm worried. If they are not worried and they are clear and definite, It is easy tosupport their decisions. I use questions to discover what is happening for a woman, as it is often the strategically positionedquestion that can lead to insights and understanding for both/all of us. There is a story which comes to mind and it mayillustrate my thinking here. I had the immense pleasure and privilege of being midwife for a midwife colleague. She was having her second child. The pregnany was traumatic, her relationship with her husbandruptured during the pregnany and she became quite anaemic. She did everything to get her Hb up. At 40 weeks, she had a breech baby with cord around it's feet in the pelvis (cord presentation diagnosed on scan done when baby became breech). She was offered a caesarian and refused. She agreed to be admitted to hospital and whilst lying there on her back, stroking the baby, pondering life, the universe etc as one does at these times, she felt the head and gave it a gentle push towards the correct position. The baby turned easily, flipping to head first. She rang me immediately, concernedand anxious,worryingthatshe may have caused a cord compression. She had an immediate scan and CTG which showed a head first baby, cord well and truly out of the way. The CTG was great. She chose to go home, despite being cautioned about unstable lie etc. She finally went into labour at 43 +2 days, there was absolutely no interest in an induction. She "wasn't ready" she told me. Liquor volume/movements etc were fine. She screamed all through her labour, which she assured me was nothing to do with any physical sensation, she was releasing heremotional pain. Gave birth intact to a beautiful 8 something pound babywith clear liquor. Her birth notice in the paper included the words, "a screaming success". What's the point of the story in this context? The point of the story for me is that in a midwifery model of care, which is inherently women centered,the women lead the care.The joy of programs such as CMP Freo style and the NMAP is that more women can access midwifery care and, with the development of the relationship, gain the huge benefits that care for the human spirit and the emotions, as well as the physical body, brings. thanks Mary for the opportunity to discuss these issues. warmly, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Sunday, 11 August 2002 10:40 AMTo: listSubject: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc After replying to Joy's message I was thinking about where that "pressure in my head" came from. It wasn't because I was afraid about the baby. The movements were more than adequate, on palpation there was plenty of fluid. All other obs were perfect. Both of us felt that the baby was o.k. I think that the pressure comes from a collective sense of responsibility when part of a larger birthing community. The Community Midwifery Program is always under political pressure from the doctors to not put a foot wrong.Always defending us for our "un-orthodox"(ie non-interventionist) practice. My daughter is a client of that program and I am a midwife contracted to that program. Because of that it is always important for us to be seen to be doing the "right" thing. I felt that we were more or less obliged to do what is assumed to be "right" by the mainstream community. (except for being induced at 7-10 days which is fast becoming the rule at our large teaching hospital). It is something for you all to think about when contemplating NMAP. The gains outweigh the losses, but for midwives there is ALWAYS that loss of true autonomy, for the client a trade of a free homebirth, for some subtle pressures, increased protocols and that sense of responsibility to make sure the Program itself is not damaged, for the greater good. On the
[ozmidwifery] colic mixture
The name of the mixture is Colic - Lardners All - natural mixture per 2.5ml dose( Dill oil 2.5 UL, hyoscine 19UG) Take two and a half mls 15 minutes before feeds. Maximum 4 doses in 24 hours. Contents: sodcitratel. 3mmol Sheena Johnson
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
My suggestion would be chiropractic. Apparently it is great for colicky babies although I foudnd this out after my colicky baby eventually grew out of it. We resolved ourslelves with stomach sleeping and realised that the risk of SIDS was lowered by all the other factors and sleep and a happy household was important. Just make sure baby is on a firm mattress and turn her head so she is not face down. - Original Message - From: Sheena Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] SIDS I am a mid student and have just joined this site. I also have a new 5 week baby living with us, she was 3 weeks prem and is our grandchild. I was wondering if anyone can help. Baby Ruby has not slept for 2 weeks now, she has really bad colic. Lynley has done all the right things regarding breastfeeding, spent the day with the Lactation Consultatant, sorted out too much fore milk which was contributing to explosive green stools, tried everything to get Ruby to sleep. Lynley and partner (my stepson) live 200 yards away from us. Last night I invited Lynley over to our house and I did night duty, changing and burping Rubywhile Lynley just woke to feed. I got two hours sleep for the night. The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleep. When I put her on her side or back the wind pains wake her up and hurt her; on her stomach she grunts and pulls her knees up, wriggles around, then goes back to sleep. So what do we do now, with all the advice against stomach sleeping? Does anyone have any advice out there. Regards Sheena Johnson
[ozmidwifery] stomachsleeping
Hi Sheena, Sounds like a nightmare (literally).Poor bub, poor parents -lucky they have (poor sleepless) you. Do you wonder as I do, how our older kids survived -when we were told to put them on their tummies to sleep. ?? have you tried the good old sling?? babies often sleep there snuggled against mum or dadswarm body(or grandma) -or in a hammock -see www.solcreations.com.au Being fairly "fresh" from researching this stuff for my book '100 Ways to Calm the Crying"(there is a good list of resources in the back)- it seems the earlier the gestation, the more arousals babies have -the younger the baby the less likely it is to sleep for very long. Of course if thre are painful problems like "reflux" etc sleep is optional - by the way, apparently the best physiological position for reflux bub s (after meals) is on their tummies with heads propped up at a thirty degree angle so this may explain why she is more comfortable on her tummy. The danger with tummy sleeping is that babies DO arouse less - this is why they are at greater risk of SIDS on their tummies - according to James mcKenna -it is the arousals that may be the protective factor against SIDS -and the more immature the bub, the greater the risk. This is also why sleep training for young babies is dangerous -it isnt in babies best interests to sleep too soundly for too long. ie The arousals have a protective effect. Also the risk of SIDS is increased by co-sleeping on sofas. Meanwhile some tips include: ?? check for urinary tract infection - possibly no symptoms other than crying ( dont see that tummy sleping would make a difference to this.) colic tummy massage routinetwice daily may also help (about twenty minutes after a breastfeed in the morning and again in the evening -pre-empting the crying), plus a relaxation bath in the evening. Eliminating dairy and/ or salicylates/ caffeinefrom mums diet can help too. Another sleep"aid" may be Music For DReaming (Sound Impressions -distributed by SONY and should be in Target/ Myer etc or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - a lovely CD of classical music recorded as one continuous piece in the 3/4 rythm -the natural rythm of the human heartbeat -it seems to have a soothing effect on parents and bubs -I have used it to calm an older child (and myself). But really, this little one seems to need the comfort of a person to help regulate her body rythms so carrying in a sling during the daytime is a really nice way to help her feel secure as well as physically helping with the discomfort of immature digestive and nervous systems. Best wishes Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc
Hello everyone -I agree with Mary and Caroline... we are pressured to conformto theexpectations of other clinicians, and their wishes often conflict with the woman's wishes and inner knowledge of her body, her baby, andtheir wellbeing. My last two cases have required me to negotiate this difficult path. I described the overdue baby case recently. She was born exactly 21 days from her u/s due date, and although"L" had one ctg at my request to conform with the supporting GP/ob.'s expectations,I followed this woman's wishes throughout, with a lovely outcome. This weekendI've cared formy client(Primip, no partner) with prolonged ROM. I monitored her very carefully, and herlabour was long and gentle. All was well, however I was aware of the time ticking away and after 48 hours sought a CTG and AB's to satisfy the Homebirth Policy and Guidelines for risk management. Around that time her labour pain increased and I felt she was now in active labour. After being turned away from the hospital she was booked into as a backup because it was closed to admissions due to staff problems(!!!), we went to thenext hospital where shehad to be admitted to obtain the AB's etc. A GP/ob ordered them by phone (refused to order IVAB, ordered IM), and CTG was fine. VE performed by hospital midwife at doctors request confirmed 6cm dilation, station at spines, ROL. The woman decided she wanted to go home to complete her labour and birth, and signed herself out "against medical advice". Three hours later she stated "this is not working, something's wrong". My VE confirmed baby was now ROP, and still at spines. She was exhausted and wanted to go back to the hospital, so that's what we did.She was examined by a different midwife who confirmed OP position on VE, and -1 station, stating "obstructed". She then advised my client that a CS had been booked for her by the doctor (who still had not seen or met her), for15.45hrs. Although my client agreed with this plan quite readily, I felt it was odd that a CS would occur like that without either the GP/ob or the ob. performing the surgery even assessing the woman, but that is what happened. I didn't challenge the decision because the client was OK with it. During the surgery it was clear thebaby's head had come out of the pelvis and was facing outwards (OP) whenviewed thru the incision.All was fine. Then came all the pressure for the IMAB's for this "terribly compromised baby" due to prolonged ROM. They threatened"N" (once all family and I had left) that she would be transferred to Perth if she did not comply with the paed'sorder for IMAB's. Shecomplied with the first IM dose, and then negotiated oral ab's from this am, while awaiting results of swabs. She's a strong, intelligent young woman, and I'll be there for her whatever occurs over the next few days.I feel these two cases reallyreflect the pressures which we experience as we support women in their birthjourney, as discussed by Mary and Carolyn. The bottom line ishow the woman feels about the process and outcome - as Carolyn so wisely stated:The point of the story for me is that in a midwifery model of care, which is inherently women centered,the women lead the care.The joy of programs such as CMP Freo style and the NMAP is that more women can access midwifery care and, with the development of the relationship, gain the huge benefits that care for the human spirit and the emotions, as well as the physical body, brings. Thanks for allowing me to "debrief". Regards, Lois Original Message - From: Heartlogic To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Pressure re ctg's etc Mary hashighlighted some deep, complex and importantissues here regarding the pressure faced by midwives when working in a systems model, however that model is configured. The collective sense of responsibility, the political pressure, the need to defend the 'unorthodox', our protocol bound profession and the need to be 'doing the right thing' by the mainstream are all powerful considerations at any time. Mary's comments have had me thinking all afternoon as I juggled the various aspects in my head and heart. My guess is that it comes back to woman centered care, how the woman is feeling and what she in her head and heart wants to do. If the woman feels safe and certainin herself, then she will knowwhat is right for her. If she is uncertain/fearful, then that is what is needed to be taken into account, no matter what the model of care is or who or what is directing the management of the model. Women know themselves better than any so called expert. If a woman is worried, I'm worried. If they are not worried and they are clear and definite, It is easy tosupport their decisions. I use questions to discover what is happening for a woman, as it is often the strategically
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
In a message dated 8/11/02 1:18:47 PM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleep I know that - certainly in the UK - prem babies are put on their stomachs rather than on their backs (my own son included) - but I must confess that I don't know the reason why, Debbie Slater Perth, WA
[ozmidwifery] The annual ACE Graphics sale....
Hi Listers, Our latest catalogue is on its way to you and you'll notice when you receive it that it doesn't contain the Stocktake sale flier that usually goes out mid-year. This has been an annual event in the past and is much anticipated (and popular) but this year we are doing it differently. Becuase we now have this new, you-beaut web site, we have decided to offer our sale items on an on-going basis through the site. This will make managing it easier, as only those items of which we still have stock will appear and you will not end up ordering items that we've run out of. The plan is to change the list every 2 weeks, and it will be a regular feature, not just once a year. If you go to : www.birthinternational.com you'll find the Specials button on the home page. BTW, if you don't get your catalogue soon, it may be because you are not on our mailing list. You can order one through the site, or send your snail mail details to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy sale hunting! Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
As I understand it, tummy lying position in the preterm or compromised infant assistsrespiration as the lungs are "splinted" by the support of the ribcage, resulting is decreased effort to breath. This is what I have observed with neonates requiring oxygen support. Regards, Lois - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS In a message dated 8/11/02 1:18:47 PM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleepI know that - certainly in the UK - prem babies are put on their stomachs rather than on their backs (my own son included) - but I must confess that I don't know the reason why,Debbie SlaterPerth, WA
[ozmidwifery] Have to go...
Dear List It is with some regret that I have to uns*bscr*be from this List. I've learned a huge amount from you all in the past 2 years and appreciate the enthusiasm and support many of you have shown for consumer activism. I want to assure you that I'm still on the hustings, but the volumes of email I'm now handling regarding the National maternity Action Plan and other Maternity Coalition activities (we're expanding to a number of new States soon!) means that I need to withdraw from the List for the time being. If anyone wants to be in contact with me, to provide advice on maternity consumer/politics/activist issues, please don't hesitate to ring or email me directly. best wishes to all, regards Barb. Dr Barbara Vernon National President The Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 269 LYNEHAM ACT 2602 02 6230 2107 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
Title: Message I have a lovely chiropractor( specializing in women and babies)who has treated several of my clients babies over the years with fantastic results! As for stomach lying, all my babies slept beautifully on their bellies! Vicki -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of connorbearSent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 12:20 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS My suggestion would be chiropractic. Apparently it is great for colicky babies although I foudnd this out after my colicky baby eventually grew out of it. We resolved ourslelves with stomach sleeping and realised that the risk of SIDS was lowered by all the other factors and sleep and a happy household was important. Just make sure baby is on a firm mattress and turn her head so she is not face down. - Original Message - From: Sheena Johnson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:26 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] SIDS I am a mid student and have just joined this site. I also have a new 5 week baby living with us, she was 3 weeks prem and is our grandchild. I was wondering if anyone can help. Baby Ruby has not slept for 2 weeks now, she has really bad colic. Lynley has done all the right things regarding breastfeeding, spent the day with the Lactation Consultatant, sorted out too much fore milk which was contributing to explosive green stools, tried everything to get Ruby to sleep. Lynley and partner (my stepson) live 200 yards away from us. Last night I invited Lynley over to our house and I did night duty, changing and burping Rubywhile Lynley just woke to feed. I got two hours sleep for the night. The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleep. When I put her on her side or back the wind pains wake her up and hurt her; on her stomach she grunts and pulls her knees up, wriggles around, then goes back to sleep. So what do we do now, with all the advice against stomach sleeping? Does anyone have any advice out there. Regards Sheena Johnson
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
Here, Here !!! Cheers, Lois - Original Message - From: leanne wynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS Dear all, We need to remember that the major risk factor for SIDS is a parent who smokes. If we are careful to eliminate all the other risk factors I believe that a baby sleeping on her stomach is at mininal risk. I am a midwife and mother and my daughter suffered with reflux until she was past 6 months of age. After seeing her suffer a severe cyanotic episode after gagging on vomited milk I decided she was much safer sleeping on her stomach then all I had to worry about was a milk soaked sheet after every feed. Please let common sense prevail. Leanne. From: Sheena Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] SIDS Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:26:02 +1000 I am a mid student and have just joined this site. I also have a new 5 week baby living with us, she was 3 weeks prem and is our grandchild. I was wondering if anyone can help. Baby Ruby has not slept for 2 weeks now, she has really bad colic. Lynley has done all the right things regarding breastfeeding, spent the day with the Lactation Consultatant, sorted out too much fore milk which was contributing to explosive green stools, tried everything to get Ruby to sleep. Lynley and partner (my stepson) live 200 yards away from us. Last night I invited Lynley over to our house and I did night duty, changing and burping Ruby while Lynley just woke to feed. I got two hours sleep for the night. The only time Ruby slept was when she was face down on my chest when I was lying on the couch. In desperation this morning I put her down in the bassinette on her stomach and bingo! she is still asleep. When I put her on her side or back the wind pains wake her up and hurt her; on her stomach she grunts and pulls her knees up, wriggles around, then goes back to sleep. So what do we do now, with all the advice against stomach sleeping? Does anyone have any advice out there. Regards Sheena Johnson _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11
Wont be able to attend- I wont be in Victoria until the 15th- hope you all have a very empowering day. Alphia At 04:34 PM 10/08/02 +1000, you wrote: no it's jan ireland hampton vic - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11 Wish I could come Jan, but I'm a bit far away!! Is Sept 11 going to be a regular thing? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11 Anyone interested ?Come and share at Jan's house sept 11 lots of insppiring stories from my practice re courage of women to be impowered by their birth rsvp for nos lol jan Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] SIDS
As a new midwife, all of this SIDS info is new to me, and a lot to remember! Recently we had an inservice at our hospital on SIDS, and the representitive from the SIDS council said that the single most effective way of reducing the risk of your baby dying from SIDS is Back to Sleep. Here is what she told us: Tummy sleeping in babies is bad for two reasons. 1. It is more likely that a child will choke while stomach sleeping. Why? Look at baby's anatomy while laying on his/her back. The trachea (wind pipe) is upmost. The oesophagus (leading to the stomach) is lowest. There is a pocket in the pharynx where saliva and excretions are pooled, and if the baby is asleep and not swallowing, the pool overflows... where would it flow if the baby was on his back? Gravity would cause the fluid to trickle down his oesophagus since it is LOWER than the trachea. When a baby is on his stomach, the trachea is lower, and therefore, any excretions trickling down, would go into the wind pipe, and into the lungs. While on the stomach, the pocket that allows pooling of saliva is almost gone (because of the anatomy), so saliva is able to freely trickle down. 2. A stomach sleep is known to be a much deeper sleep. One of the known risk factors for SIDS is a deeper sleep, and the associated periodic respirations. In a deep sleep, a baby cannot rouse himself as easily, and cannot take cues from the environment to recommence breathing in periodic respiration. HTH Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] PROM
Six or seven year ago I read some research I believe from the lancet but I'm not certain, outcome was, to increase calcium and Vit C was thought to be of benefit. Maybe a visit to a homeopath might be valuable, trace minerals maybe helpful.(My personal suggestions.these things seem to work, I also encourage visualizations and a chat to baby.) Terry Stockdale Independent Midwife Hobart
[ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Yes, Alphia, Wyong Hospital, part of the Central Coast Health Service is midwifery led. It's fantastic, the midwives do a great job and are well supported by the health service and the administration. The doctors are supportive and work in a collaborative practice model. All in all, a wonderful example and a real tribute to the health service, the midwives, the medical people and the women who access the service (who all love it!). warmly, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] mouth tears
Hi Eliza!! It's Jo (from same mid course as you) I remember the exact baby you're talking about, unless it is a more recent one... but I'm sure it was you who brought that baby down to the ward to me (?) Hope your first year out is good :) Jo
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Thanks Carolyn, I need another hospital to use as my base for possible participants. Take care Alphia At 03:32 PM 12/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Yes, Alphia, Wyong Hospital, part of the Central Coast Health Service is midwifery led. It's fantastic, the midwives do a great job and are well supported by the health service and the administration. The doctors are supportive and work in a collaborative practice model. All in all, a wonderful example and a real tribute to the health service, the midwives, the medical people and the women who access the service (who all love it!). warmly, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
