[ozmidwifery] Re: Placenta and post natal depression
Yes dogs who have C/S frequently reject puppies. They need assistance to recognise the pups eg encouraged to lick them asap after waking and often need assistance to feed the pups attachment etc before waking. Some dog breeders save a placenta or two for the mother to eat. Megan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/10/2002 9:45:47 am I don't know about dogs but I was watching a zoo type show a few weeks ago and the were talking about a family of Gorilla's and apparently a couple of them had to have caesareans because they weren't labouring well (insert snorts of disgust here) and after the surgery the gorilla's apparently wanted nothing to do with the babies. Gee whiz wonder why? They also talked about how they were supplementing the babies with bottles (those that still fed off their mothers) because they weren't gaining enough weight?!?!?! This all sounds very familiar. I found the whole program disgusting after that and switched off, How sad that we are inflicting this among our animal friends as well as the human race. Hugs, Larissa I wonder if Dogs who undergo c/s at vets are prone to not wanting their young. That may be somewhere to go. But then that could be the fact that they had the c/s as well as not eating the placenta - you may need to get a vet to help with a control study. Regards Rhonda . ally evolved - Click Here ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. ** -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Jean Sutton
The town is Tauranga (note A not the U as written previously) in the Bay of Plenty, North Island. A wonderful place to live work and play. Barb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Jean Sutton In a message dated 10/16/02 7:59:07 AM W. Australia Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a midwife and interested in Jean Sutton's optimal positioning theory. I would like to e-mail or talk to her, does anyone have her contact address or phone number?In Jean's book, she writes:For more information please contact:Birth Concepts128 Sutherland RoadTaurungaNZThe email given is [EMAIL PROTECTED]Phone +64 7 576 1500 or +64 7 544 4090 Fax: +64 7 576 4172HTHDebbie SlaterPerth, WA
Re: [ozmidwifery] Jean Sutton
Jean Sutton is in the UK at present - I heard her speak at a Conference in Birmingham 2 weeks ago. She is very dogmatic in her views, and will not brook any alternative opinion, but there is growing disquiet about her claims. A number of midwives have said to me that they have trouble following her arguments, which are not based on any direct evidence, but are all anecdotal. Some recent research has also challenged her claims (see MIDIRS June 2002 Malpoisitions and malpresentations of the occiput: current research and practice tips). Cheers, Andrea At 08:21 17/10/2002, Andrea Quanchi wrote: Felicity, I am trying to do some research based on the booklet 'understanding and teaching OFP. I have tried unsuccessfully to reach Jean Sutton by email and from what I hear she is not interested in talking to riff raff. I have however had several email chat with Pauline Scott who is most helpful, co operative and happy to chat. her email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps Andrea Quanchi On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 10:21 AM, Felicity Cummins wrote: Hello List I am a midwife and interested in Jean Sutton's optimal positioning theory. I would like to e-mail or talk to her, does anyone have her contact address or phone number? Regards Felicity /blockquote/x-html - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta
Ditto - except our kitty birthed in the lounge room and ate all 5 placentas for all kittens (after each birth she ate the placenta - she had 30 mins+ b/w each kitten). I'd heard the predator theory too, and also understand placenta very high in zinc - a mineral which helps both mother and babe remain calm, and excellent for the skin - helps prevent grazed nipples. Doubtless consuming placentas has many benefits. Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements instead... Jo I watched our cat give birth to five kittens under the house years ago. She ate three placentas with gusto, managed to stomach the fourth and took a nibble at the fifth before turning away with a grimace as if to say 'I just can't' . Margie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Fw: [NMAPAustralia] fundraising for MC
Dear Ozmid listers Below is the web site for information on an art exhibition which will raise funds for Maternity coalition Please support it if you can including encouraging other artists to participate! Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: villagemidwife2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: [NMAPAustralia] fundraising for MC Dear NMAP team we would like to advise you that the 'art of birthing' web page is now online. www.artofbirthing.com.au This is a special fundraising venture for Maternity Coalition, being managed by an enthusiastic and talented group of people who wanted to do something practical for the cause. If you go to the website I am sure you will be impressed. There are 2 artworks to view at the moment, and more will be added as they are confirmed. Questions can be directed to Becc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joy To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://au.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta
I too know about the high levels of zinc theory ..yes it is good for all the things that you mention but in addition zinc is frequently deficient in those suffering depression..so the theory about it staving off pnd carries some weight...I bet somebody has already said this ..forgive me I have been virus fighting for the last couple of weeks Cheerio Mel - Original Message - From: Jo Slamen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta Ditto - except our kitty birthed in the lounge room and ate all 5 placentas for all kittens (after each birth she ate the placenta - she had 30 mins+ b/w each kitten). I'd heard the predator theory too, and also understand placenta very high in zinc - a mineral which helps both mother and babe remain calm, and excellent for the skin - helps prevent grazed nipples. Doubtless consuming placentas has many benefits. Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements instead... Jo I watched our cat give birth to five kittens under the house years ago. She ate three placentas with gusto, managed to stomach the fourth and took a nibble at the fifth before turning away with a grimace as if to say 'I just can't' . Margie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] animals eating Placenta
Doubtless consuming placentas has many benefits. Having said that - I go for the zinc supplements instead... I heard recently on talkback radio (now I know I'm getting old...)that the Marino sheep society in Adelaide make a sheep's placenta cream, which is very good for dermatitis and eczema. Interesting! Tania -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
