[ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence!

2004-03-01 Thread Jen Semple
Wow, it's interesting that women are even restricted from eating solid foods while they're labouring... the Cochrane folks, Enkin et al. (2000) Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy  Childbirth. (3rd ed, Oxford University Press) have a whole section on nutrition in labour (pp. 259- 263). It can be downloaded from http://maternitywise.org/pdfs/gecpc3ch29.pdf

The gist is "...except for women at high risk of needing general anaesthesia, the benefits of nourishment in accordance with women's wishes far outweigh the possible benefits of more restrictive policies." (p. 259).

In the two hospitals I've done my clinical placements, women have been encouraged to drink to thirst  eat to hunger (lightly).

Here's to evidence-based practice!

Jen
3rd year BMid student, MelbourneJoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Women are allowed water, black tea, that kind of thing. Whether epidural or not. Inductions are more strict though, water only. I had to beg a doc to let my labouring woman have a barley sugar...

Jo
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need Info on Eating In Labour Policies

2004-03-01 Thread Lieve Huybrechts
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need Info on Eating In Labour Policies



You could contact Michel Odent at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  . He did some talks about eating in labour. Prevent the mother from eating gives adrenalines that counteract with oxytocine and endorfines and causes so prolonged labour. 

greetings
Lieve



 Original Message 
From: ljg
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need Info on Eating In Labour Policies

 Hi all
 Need some information from hospital based midwives re: your unit’s
 policies in regards to women eating in labour. Need this info by
 Wednesday – our anaesthetic department have taken it upon themselves
 to direct midwives to keep women who have epidurals NBM, and I’m sure
 there will be further in regards to women who don’t have epidurals.
 If you could email me off list with what you policy says and where
 you are from I would greatly appreciate it! Ahh the battle goes
 on!! 
 Lisa g
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: [ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence!

2004-03-01 Thread JoFromOz



Yup, I have that exact same book :)

And I agree with you :)

Jo
 Original Message From: Jen SempleTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:57 
PMSubject: [ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence! Wow, it's interesting that women are even restricted from 
eating solid foods while they're labouring... the Cochrane folks, Enkin 
et al. (2000) Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy  Childbirth. 
(3rd ed, Oxford University Press) have a whole section on nutrition 
in labour (pp. 259- 263). It can be downloaded from 
http://maternitywise.org/pdfs/gecpc3ch29.pdf  
 The gist is "...except for women at high risk of needing 
general anaesthesia, the benefits of nourishment in accordance with 
women's wishes far outweigh the possible benefits of more 
restrictive policies." (p. 259).   In the 
two hospitals I've done my clinical placements, women have been 
encouraged to drink to thirst  eat to hunger (lightly).   
Here's to evidence-based practice!  Jen 3rd year BMid 
student, Melbourne JoFromOz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Women are allowed water, black tea, that kind of thing. 
Whether epidural or not. Inductions are more strict though, water 
only. I had to beg a doc to let my labouring woman have a barley 
sugar...   Jo 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need Info on Eating In Labour Policies

2004-03-01 Thread Denise Hynd
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need Info on Eating In Labour Policies



Is it notalso logical that a starved body 
does not function as well as a nourished even without the one inquestion being 
in the middle of performing labour??Denise Hynd

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lieve Huybrechts 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:19 
PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need 
  Info on Eating In Labour Policies
  
  You could contact Michel Odent at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
. He did some talks about eating in labour. Prevent the mother 
from eating gives adrenalines that counteract with oxytocine and endorfines 
and causes so prolonged labour. 
greetingsLieve
 Original Message From: 
  ljgTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Monday, March 01, 2004 10:13 AMSubject: [ozmidwifery] Urgent: Need 
  Info on Eating In Labour Policies Hi all Need some 
  information from hospital based midwives re: your unit’s policies 
  in regards to women eating in labour. Need this info by Wednesday 
  – our anaesthetic department have taken it upon themselves to 
  direct midwives to keep women who have epidurals NBM, and I’m sure 
  there will be further in regards to women who don’t have 
  epidurals. If you could email me off list with what you policy 
  says and where you are from I would greatly appreciate it! Ahh the 
  battle goes on!!  
  Lisa g 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!

2004-03-01 Thread Jo Bourne
As a consumer where is a letter best sent in support of this news? To Mary Chiarella? 
If so does any one have an address?

thanks
Jo

At 3:37 +1100 1/3/04, Andrea Robertson wrote:
From the Sydney Morning Herald today.

---


Publicly funded home births for healthy women on agenda

By Julie Robotham, Medical Editor
March 1, 2004
http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlPrint
 this article
http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupEmailArticle.pl?path=/articles/2004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlEmail
 to a friend

Women would be able to give birth at home in the care of midwives employed by NSW 
Health under a radical proposal being considered by the department.

The state's chief nursing officer, Mary Chiarella, confirmed that publicly funded 
home births for healthy women without medical complications were on the agenda.

It would mark the first time NSW public maternity patients could have their babies 
outside hospital. At present, women who want to give birth at home have to employ a 
midwife privately, with no Medicare rebate - and most private midwives no longer 
carry insurance after last year's indemnity crisis. Only a handful of NSW women take 
this option.

But Professor Chiarella said: There's no doubt there is a significant consumer drive 
for home birth. It's about understanding that birth can be a very healthy process.

In New Zealand, home deliveries are routine - accounting for more than 10 per cent of 
births - while there are limited public home birth services in Western Australia and 
South Australia.

In NSW, Professor Chiarella said, home birth midwives might be managed centrally by 
the department, or could be attached to hospitals or area health services. The 
possible arrangements would be outlined for public consultation later this year.

Lesley Barclay, director of the Centre for Family Health and Midwifery at the 
University of Technology, Sydney, said a hospital was still the safest place to give 
birth when there was a known risk of a medical problem. But for healthy mothers, the 
risks of having their baby in hospital might outweigh the benefits.

Professor Barclay said the move towards home births internationally was an 
acknowledgement not just of mothers' preferences, but of hospitals and health 
services that can no longer sustain the cost of high-intervention births when they're 
not necessary.

There has been increasing pressure on birth services across NSW, especially in rural 
and regional areas where many specialist GPs and obstetricians have stopped 
delivering babies in response to rising insurance premiums and workloads.

Professor Chiarella said working parties - including departmental managers and 
lawyers, doctors, midwives and consumer advocates - would examine how home births 
could be offered safely and equitably.


This is the best news we have had for some time. Congratulations to everyone who has 
worked so hard on this!

Regards

Andrea

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Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!

2004-03-01 Thread jo hunter
I think the Sydney Morning Herald would be a good place to send a letter as
it will reach more people.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All letters and emails must include the senders home address and day and
evening phone numbers for verification as well as being no more than 200
words - Good luck.
Jo

- Original Message -
From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!


 As a consumer where is a letter best sent in support of this news? To Mary
Chiarella? If so does any one have an address?

 thanks
 Jo

 At 3:37 +1100 1/3/04, Andrea Robertson wrote:
 From the Sydney Morning Herald today.
 
 ---
 
 
 Publicly funded home births for healthy women on agenda
 
 By Julie Robotham, Medical Editor
 March 1, 2004

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlPrint this article

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupEmailArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlEmail to a friend
 
 Women would be able to give birth at home in the care of midwives
employed by NSW Health under a radical proposal being considered by the
department.
 
 The state's chief nursing officer, Mary Chiarella, confirmed that
publicly funded home births for healthy women without medical complications
were on the agenda.
 
 It would mark the first time NSW public maternity patients could have
their babies outside hospital. At present, women who want to give birth at
home have to employ a midwife privately, with no Medicare rebate - and most
private midwives no longer carry insurance after last year's indemnity
crisis. Only a handful of NSW women take this option.
 
 But Professor Chiarella said: There's no doubt there is a significant
consumer drive for home birth. It's about understanding that birth can be a
very healthy process.
 
 In New Zealand, home deliveries are routine - accounting for more than 10
per cent of births - while there are limited public home birth services in
Western Australia and South Australia.
 
 In NSW, Professor Chiarella said, home birth midwives might be managed
centrally by the department, or could be attached to hospitals or area
health services. The possible arrangements would be outlined for public
consultation later this year.
 
 Lesley Barclay, director of the Centre for Family Health and Midwifery at
the University of Technology, Sydney, said a hospital was still the safest
place to give birth when there was a known risk of a medical problem. But
for healthy mothers, the risks of having their baby in hospital might
outweigh the benefits.
 
 Professor Barclay said the move towards home births internationally was
an acknowledgement not just of mothers' preferences, but of hospitals and
health services that can no longer sustain the cost of high-intervention
births when they're not necessary.
 
 There has been increasing pressure on birth services across NSW,
especially in rural and regional areas where many specialist GPs and
obstetricians have stopped delivering babies in response to rising insurance
premiums and workloads.
 
 Professor Chiarella said working parties - including departmental
managers and lawyers, doctors, midwives and consumer advocates - would
examine how home births could be offered safely and equitably.
 
 
 This is the best news we have had for some time. Congratulations to
everyone who has worked so hard on this!
 
 Regards
 
 Andrea
 
 -
 Andrea Robertson
 Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
 
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.birthinternational.com
 
 
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[ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-03-01 Thread Mrs Joanne M Fisher




Beautifully told Tina.
Cheers,
Joanne.

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  From: 
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:37 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN 
  CAUL
  Hello fellow ozmiders.I have pasted below a birth 
  story from my journal of a babe born in the caul.I have had three women in 
  my time as a mid student, birth their babes in the caulthe first at home 
  thru water.then this wonderful birth with 'Kirsty' in hospital on the 
  shower floorand again recentlya wonderful hospital birth...again in 
  the showerCheers Tina Pettigrew.3rd year B Mid Student ACU 
  Melb-Home tonight from another day of 
  birthing 'with woman'. I startedback on placement today - 2/days a week 
  for the next couple of months.ON arriving this morning, the 'board' in 
  birth suite was full withlabouring women and/or women who had recently 
  birthed their babes...Iwas allocated to work with a young woman in 'early' 
  labour. Labourcommenced at 2100hrs last night with irregular tightenings 
  and alarge bloody show. Kirsty arrived at hospital at 0400hrs 
  thismorning...today her EDB...healthy pregnancy.I met 18 yr old 
  Kirsty (not her real name) her ex partner and theirlittle boy (16 month 
  toddler). Kirsty was on the bed leaning over thebean bag. Ex partner, 24 
  yr old...father of both the children...waspresent to care for the toddler 
  as they have noone else to supportthem. Both Kirsty's parents are in 
  jail...her only local family anelderly grandmother...Ex partner also soon 
  to be imprisoned in a fewweeks time...Instantly we 
  connected.the partner was in and out of the roomwith the small 
  childso she was all aloneshe was frightenedand in pain. Her labour 
  with her first babe was 25 hours, epidural,ventouse and 2 degree 
  tear...This labour was beginning to escalate when I arrived 0730 hrs. 
  Ioffered her words of encouragement.massage for her low 
  backpainand finally coaxed her into the shower on the mediball 
  at0800.Kirsty was very tired...having been awake all night, 
  andwith 16 month old toddler in tow who had not yet sleptLights 
  dimed in the shower, hot water and rocking on medi ball,midwife student 
  shoes off bear feet, pants rolled up to myknees...working with her, with 
  16 month toddler under my arm pitwondering what mum was doingtoddler 
  on my knee now (trying tokeep him out of the water :-)) partner returns 
  from outside and takestoddler for walk...Kirsty making heaps of birth 
  noise, and needing torest...lays down on the mat in the shower...hot water 
  running overher...its all quiet and dark, just the sound of running 
  waterby0900...Kirsty really working hard now...says she's going 
  todiewants the pain to stop...Partner returns...toddler 
  intowKirsty 'freaks out' with him present now...fearful forhim 
  "seeing me in pain" wants him to go. Really distressed and,crying, 
  screaming for me to make it all stop...I stroke herforeheadtake her in 
  my arms and cuddle on the shower floor...sheceases to cry...wants a VE to 
  assess her progress before having anepidural. O/VE 6-7cmwon't have gas 
  (says she'll die)decidesno epidural...and has 100mgs of IM pethide, 
  tries some gas with somegreat words from the midwife who is alittle more 
  assertive with herthan me, she eventually refocuses on birthing her 
  babymembranesstill intact...RMO wanting to rupture themmidwife 
  does some fancyfoot work with the doctor...no ARM :-))The next 
  hour is s intense...Kirsty's labour is full onnow...still in the 
  shower...sucking on the gas...leaning up over herpartner who is on the 
  mediball...then at 1015 hours...that incrediblebirth roar came...a 
  sensation new to Kirsty who felt none of her 2ndstage with babe no 1. with 
  the epidural. Reassuring her "you aresafe" its "OK to go with what you are 
  feeling"Kirsty begins thework of pushing her babe out...over a bean 
  bag now (still in theshower and wasn't I popular with the Div 2 - a wet 
  soggy bean bag!!!)I can see her babes head emergingas the babes begins 
  tocrown...Kirsty instinctively reaches down to touch her babe 
  andreassure herself that she was not "fucking splitting 
  apart"andgently, ever so gently, she breathes her 3505gm daughter out 
  and intomy hands at 1044 hrsbabe born in the caulmembranes 
  stillintact that I gently peel away as I pass her thru Kirsty's legs 
  andlay her down beneath her.she is 
  euphoric...triumphant...!!!Active third stage...1ml IM syntometrine 
  and CCT...EBL 150ml...Babe beautiful breastfeeder(Kirsty BF babe no. 1 
  for 11months)...Perineum intact...no other tears or grazes :-)) 
  Midwifestudent delighted!!I continue to be amazed at the strengh 
  of 'woman'...this youngwoman...with the odds stacked against hera long 
  road ahead 

[ozmidwifery] National seminar on improving maternity services

2004-03-01 Thread Barbara Vernon
Dear ozmidders,

Please find below information about this seminar being run by ARCHI -
the Australian Resource Centre for Healthcare Innovations - in Melbourne
in June 2004.  

It would be great to get as many presenters as possible on midwifery
care and its benefits.  Please forward this to your contacts and
consider submitting an abstract. 

The seminar attracts a wide range of government and hospital managers,
as well as a range of clinicians, and consumers.  So it will provide an
excellent forum for showcasing innovation in maternity care through the
use of midwifery models of care.  

For more information visit the acmi website www.acmi.org.au the full
brochure on the seminar, or the archi website (address at bottom of this
message).  

Closing date for applications is 15 March 2004.  

regards
Dr Barbara Vernon
Executive Officer
Australian College of Midwives Inc
Level 1, 97 Northbourne Ave
TURNER  ACT  2612

Ph: 02 6230 7333
Fax: 02 6230 6033
www.acmi.org.au 

Call for abstracts

Improving the Clinical Management of Maternity Services

Thursday 24th  Friday 25th June 2004
Sheraton Southbank . Melbourne VIC

Aims of Seminar
. To inform clinicians and clinical managers about strategic directions
in clinical governance and the clinical management of maternity services
. To share information about innovative approaches to workforce planning
and the training and education of healthcare clinicians
. To showcase innovative models of care or projects with demonstrated
outcomes that have improved access to maternity services and optimised
the quality, safety and efficiency of maternity care

Audience
. Academics and researchers
. Clinical managers and clinicians including community nurses,
endocrinologists, general practitioners, gynaecologists, midwives, nurse
practitioners, obstetricians, paediatricians,
. Consumers
. Divisions of General Practice
. Health consultants
. Health recruitment organisations
. Health service executives including Directors of
Midwifery/Medical/Clinical
Services/Nursing/Clinical Governance
. Information technology professionals
. Policy makers
. Private health organisations
. Program managers interested in quality and efficiency improvement
. Risk and quality managers

ARCHI, in partnership with the Australian College of Midwives Inc and
Womens'
Hospitals Australasia, invites participation in our next Toolkit
Seminar, Improving the Clinical Management of Maternity Services by
submitting an abstract to present at
the seminar.

Call for Papers
Submissions are invited for abstracts that demonstrate innovative
approaches to the
clinical management of maternity services. Key topics include access for
disadvantaged
women and women from culturally diverse backgrounds, audit,
benchmarking, clinical
indicators, clinical practice/quality improvement, continuity of
care/carer, caseload
management, dealing with obstetric emergencies, clinician education and
training,
collaboration between training institutions and healthcare providers,
evidence based
practice, decision support, models of care delivery, monitoring and
dealing with adverse outcomes, patient safety, risk management,
medication management, outcomes, service delivery in rural/remote or
small centres, support for women `at risk', team work, workforce
challenges.

Presentations should focus on process, implementation and outcomes of
innovative
projects including what worked well as well as what did not work well.

Guidelines for Abstracts
Abstracts should:
. Be presented in Microsoft Word format
. Include the title of the proposed paper, each author's name with the
name of the
presenting author underlined, position title, organisation and contact
details ie
telephone, email and mailing address
. Focus on the practical implementation of a project/case study where
the
outcomes/results have led to changes
. Be no more than 250 words in length.

Presentation Format
Abstracts accepted will be presented at the seminar as a PowerPoint
presentation.
In addition to the presentation, papers for accepted abstracts will also
be welcomed.
Presenters will be allocated a 20-minute timeslot, plus 5 minutes for
discussion

Important Dates
15 March 2004 - submission of abstracts
24 March 2004 - notification of acceptance
15 June 2004 - submission of PowerPoint presentation

Presenting authors at the seminar will receive ONE complementary
registration.
Please note that flights/travel expenses to the seminar will be at the
presenter's expense.

For further information
Telephone the ARCHI National Office on 02 4985 3165
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[ozmidwifery] birthcentre vbacs

2004-03-01 Thread Jessica Stewart



hello all!

was wondering if anyone could help me out, im 
looking for articles, hospital policies, anything at all related to vbacs in 
birthing centres[if not bc, then hospitals in general is fine, and any homebirth 
info would also be useful!], why we cant have them/can/why we should 
etc!

thanking you in advance!

jess.


Re: [ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence!

2004-03-01 Thread Kathy McCarthy-Bushby
The Midwifery Dilemma: to fast or feed the labouring woman makes a few
interesting comments that you might find helpful. Basically, it is believed
that the decline in the general anaethesia rate for obstetric patients and
the improvements in anaesthetic drugs and techniques over the past 50 years
have made an aspiration episode extremely rare. In 1946 Mendelson
recommended employing regional anaesthetic (epidural) rather than general
anaesthetic to help prevent morbidity and mortality from gastric aspiration
in labouring women.

It has been found that despite prolonged fasting time a majority of
patients had large gastric volumes prior to general anaesthetics. Guyton
(19860 found that 500 millilitres of gastric secretion per hour was produced
when associated with hunger. The stomach may produce 50 millilitres of
highly acidic fluid at times of stress and fasting. Phillips et al (1993)
stated that fasting only increased the amount of acid secretion in the
stomach, while food and fluid reduce the production and dilute the pH level
of the gastric contents.

Basically epidural rather than general anaesthetic is considered the most
effective way to minimise the risk of aspiration. An interesting finishing
quote in the article from Sleatel  Golden (1999) comments when the risk of
death from aspiration is put into perspective, it can be seen that a woman
has a three times greater chance of dying from a lightening strike than
dying from aspiration during childbirth
I hope this helps.
kathy
- Original Message -
From: Jen Semple [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:57 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence!


 Wow, it's interesting that women are even restricted from eating solid
foods while they're labouring... the Cochrane folks, Enkin et al. (2000)
Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy  Childbirth. (3rd ed, Oxford
University Press) have a whole section on nutrition in labour (pp. 259-
263).  It can be downloaded from
http://maternitywise.org/pdfs/gecpc3ch29.pdf

 The gist is ...except for women at high risk of needing general
anaesthesia, the benefits of nourishment in accordance with women's wishes
far outweigh the possible benefits of more restrictive policies. (p. 259).

 In the two hospitals I've done my clinical placements, women have been
encouraged to drink to thirst  eat to hunger (lightly).

 Here's to evidence-based practice!

 Jen
 3rd year BMid student, Melbourne
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Eating In Labour- evidence!

2004-03-01 Thread Patricia David
One of the more interesting diets in labour that I witnessed was from a much villified 
sub-cultural group in our society who ate fried potatoes dusted with a wide variety of 
seasonings washed down with a foul black sticky liquid which they swore was the only 
food they could keep down.

(Teenagers just love BBQ chips and coke, and even in labour found it a source of ready 
calories!)


Trish

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women are even restricted from eating solid foods while they're labouring... the 
Cochrane folks, Enkin et al. (2000) Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy  Childbirth. 
(3rd ed, Oxford University Press) have a whole section on nutrition in labour (pp. 
259- 263).nbsp; It can be downloaded from http://maternitywise.org/pdfs/gecpc3ch29.pdf
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 benefits of more restrictive policies. (p. 259).
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 In the two hospitals I've done my clinical placements, women have been encouraged to 
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 Here's to evidence-based practice!
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 Women are allowed water, black tea, that kind of thing.nbsp; Whether epidural or 
 not. Inductions are more strict though, water only.nbsp; I had to beg a doc to let 
 my labouring woman have a barley sugar...
 nbsp;
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Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!

2004-03-01 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Jo
for maximum effect
Send a letter to the SMH editor and copy to Mary Chiarelli
both have web sites so you should write the letter and can send via email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and or snail mail
I have done the former

Denise Hynd
- Original Message -
From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!


 As a consumer where is a letter best sent in support of this news? To Mary
Chiarella? If so does any one have an address?

 thanks
 Jo

 At 3:37 +1100 1/3/04, Andrea Robertson wrote:
 From the Sydney Morning Herald today.
 

Dear Editor
Congratulations to NSW health and the families of NSW for the future rebirth
of publicly funded homebirths in NSW.

My mother and all her cousins were born in the Wentworthville home of her
grandmother in the 1920's with a Community Midwife, surrounded by family and
love, not strangers in strange and clinical environment. Now I can hope the
children of my son  nephews,  presently living in Winston Hills will have
the same opportunity should they settle in NSW. Should Thomas come back to
Perth he already has that option thanks to the Community Midwifery Program
(CMP).

Perth has had a government funded midwifery led homebirth option for the
last 7 years.
In terms of happy, healthy mothers and babies the outcomes of this program
are better than any other service in Australia, 71% of CMP women have
satisfying natural births at home  following labours with-out artificial
inductions or drugs.  These women learn how to use powerful God given
resources such as endorphins and working with their babies to give birth as
and how they need, many in water! Meanwhile less than 14% women in NSW
hospitals labour with-out drugs and more than 30% end with a surgical birth!


Information and comments from users of the CMP can be found at
http://www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au/testimonials.html
This program has had 2 independent evaluations and is the template of the
National Maternity Action Plan
http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au/nmap.html .
So NSW planners can save their money on another comiittee and give NSW
families this option tomorrow following the the WA example!
Denise Hynd
Midwife Perth WA
(08) 9446 11549 or 041 793 2570

mother of Thomas aunty of Liam  Alex
3 Palmerston St
Winston Hills
(02) 9686 4213
 
 Publicly funded home births for healthy women on agenda
 
 By Julie Robotham, Medical Editor
 March 1, 2004

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlPrint this article

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupEmailArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlEmail to a friend
 
 Women would be able to give birth at home in the care of midwives
employed by NSW Health under a radical proposal being considered by the
department.
 
 The state's chief nursing officer, Mary Chiarella, confirmed that
publicly funded home births for healthy women without medical complications
were on the agenda.
 
 It would mark the first time NSW public maternity patients could have
their babies outside hospital. At present, women who want to give birth at
home have to employ a midwife privately, with no Medicare rebate - and most
private midwives no longer carry insurance after last year's indemnity
crisis. Only a handful of NSW women take this option.
 
 But Professor Chiarella said: There's no doubt there is a significant
consumer drive for home birth. It's about understanding that birth can be a
very healthy process.
 
 In New Zealand, home deliveries are routine - accounting for more than 10
per cent of births - while there are limited public home birth services in
Western Australia and South Australia.
 
 In NSW, Professor Chiarella said, home birth midwives might be managed
centrally by the department, or could be attached to hospitals or area
health services. The possible arrangements would be outlined for public
consultation later this year.
 
 Lesley Barclay, director of the Centre for Family Health and Midwifery at
the University of Technology, Sydney, said a hospital was still the safest
place to give birth when there was a known risk of a medical problem. But
for healthy mothers, the risks of having their baby in hospital might
outweigh the benefits.
 
 Professor Barclay said the move towards home births internationally was
an acknowledgement not just of mothers' preferences, but of hospitals and
health services that can no longer sustain the cost of high-intervention
births when they're not necessary.
 
 There has been increasing pressure on birth services across NSW,
especially in rural and regional areas where many specialist GPs and
obstetricians have stopped delivering babies in response to rising insurance
premiums and workloads.
 
 Professor Chiarella said working parties - including departmental
managers and lawyers, doctors, midwives and consumer advocates - would
examine how home births could be offered 

Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL

2004-03-01 Thread TinaPettigrew
In a message dated 2/03/04 9:45:08 AM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Beautifully told Tina.
Cheers,
Joanne.


Thanks Joanne,

Regards Tina P.


Re: [ozmidwifery] Moving to Australia

2004-03-01 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
Hi Wendy,
My husband and Imoved to Australia last August, Its a different life, and different 
working also. I had worked in a medium maternity unit in England, and we wanted to 
move to Cairns area, I was offered a post in a small hospital with 240 births in the 
area, which I presumed was midwifery led, in fact was quite medicalised, the midwives 
not even able to perform speculums for  SRM, I had to ask the Drs. before I could 
suture, and they even sent me to work on surgical, medical wards. So if you come 
beware, 
Apart from that the lifestyle is good, I have now moved to another hospital. 
Living, if you need to rent, get some references, otherwise they ask for even more 
deposit on top of your bond.
Good Luck
Anne

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/02/2004 8:12:17 am 
Hello, my name is Wendy.  I am a qualified midwife currently working in a
low risk birthing centre in England.  I, along with my partner and two
children (12  9) are considering moving to Australia and I am interested in
talking to anyone who has recently undertaken this huge move themselves who
could give me more of an insight in to what may await us.  My partner,
having been to Australia before, is a keen scuba-diver and would like to
consider Brisbane as the area of choice.  Please contact me if you have any
information that may be of help to us or if you know of anyone in the main
hospitals who have current vacancies.  Thanks Wendy Taberer.




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Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!

2004-03-01 Thread Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art
Is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email for mary Chiarelli? Denise?

Untitled Document www.Splitart.com
- Original Message - 
From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!


 Dear Jo
 for maximum effect
 Send a letter to the SMH editor and copy to Mary Chiarelli
 both have web sites so you should write the letter and can send via email
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and or snail mail
 I have done the former

 Denise Hynd
 - Original Message -
 From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] The best news...!


  As a consumer where is a letter best sent in support of this news? To
Mary
 Chiarella? If so does any one have an address?
 
  thanks
  Jo
 
  At 3:37 +1100 1/3/04, Andrea Robertson wrote:
  From the Sydney Morning Herald today.
  

 Dear Editor
 Congratulations to NSW health and the families of NSW for the future
rebirth
 of publicly funded homebirths in NSW.

 My mother and all her cousins were born in the Wentworthville home of her
 grandmother in the 1920's with a Community Midwife, surrounded by family
and
 love, not strangers in strange and clinical environment. Now I can hope
the
 children of my son  nephews,  presently living in Winston Hills will have
 the same opportunity should they settle in NSW. Should Thomas come back to
 Perth he already has that option thanks to the Community Midwifery Program
 (CMP).

 Perth has had a government funded midwifery led homebirth option for the
 last 7 years.
 In terms of happy, healthy mothers and babies the outcomes of this program
 are better than any other service in Australia, 71% of CMP women have
 satisfying natural births at home  following labours with-out artificial
 inductions or drugs.  These women learn how to use powerful God given
 resources such as endorphins and working with their babies to give birth
as
 and how they need, many in water! Meanwhile less than 14% women in NSW
 hospitals labour with-out drugs and more than 30% end with a surgical
birth!


 Information and comments from users of the CMP can be found at
 http://www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au/testimonials.html
 This program has had 2 independent evaluations and is the template of the
 National Maternity Action Plan
 http://www.maternitycoalition.org.au/nmap.html .
 So NSW planners can save their money on another comiittee and give NSW
 families this option tomorrow following the the WA example!
 Denise Hynd
 Midwife Perth WA
 (08) 9446 11549 or 041 793 2570

 mother of Thomas aunty of Liam  Alex
 3 Palmerston St
 Winston Hills
 (02) 9686 4213
  
  Publicly funded home births for healthy women on agenda
  
  By Julie Robotham, Medical Editor
  March 1, 2004
 

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
 004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlPrint this article
 

http://www.smh.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupEmailArticle.pl?path=/articles/2
 004/02/29/1077989435235.htmlEmail to a friend
  
  Women would be able to give birth at home in the care of midwives
 employed by NSW Health under a radical proposal being considered by the
 department.
  
  The state's chief nursing officer, Mary Chiarella, confirmed that
 publicly funded home births for healthy women without medical
complications
 were on the agenda.
  
  It would mark the first time NSW public maternity patients could have
 their babies outside hospital. At present, women who want to give birth at
 home have to employ a midwife privately, with no Medicare rebate - and
most
 private midwives no longer carry insurance after last year's indemnity
 crisis. Only a handful of NSW women take this option.
  
  But Professor Chiarella said: There's no doubt there is a significant
 consumer drive for home birth. It's about understanding that birth can be
a
 very healthy process.
  
  In New Zealand, home deliveries are routine - accounting for more than
10
 per cent of births - while there are limited public home birth services in
 Western Australia and South Australia.
  
  In NSW, Professor Chiarella said, home birth midwives might be managed
 centrally by the department, or could be attached to hospitals or area
 health services. The possible arrangements would be outlined for public
 consultation later this year.
  
  Lesley Barclay, director of the Centre for Family Health and Midwifery
at
 the University of Technology, Sydney, said a hospital was still the safest
 place to give birth when there was a known risk of a medical problem. But
 for healthy mothers, the risks of having their baby in hospital might
 outweigh the benefits.
  
  Professor Barclay said the move towards home births internationally was
 an acknowledgement not just of mothers' preferences, but of hospitals and
 health services that can no longer sustain the cost of high-intervention
 births when they're not necessary.
  
  There has been increasing pressure on