[ozmidwifery] Rally at Camden

2005-01-15 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi,
Good coverage of the Camden Rally on the Channel 7 news this evening. Good 
interviews with parents and midwives and the MC banner got a good run 
during the story and the previews.

Congratulations to everyone involved - got to keep the pressure on these 
pollies

Regards
Andrea
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[ozmidwifery] Interested in Waterbirth Policy

2005-01-15 Thread Debbie



Hi there Wendy, am keen to recieve waterbirth 
policy please and references. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks 
Deb
- Original Message - 
From: Wendy 
Taberer 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirth Policy


Hi Sally, if you give 
me your e-mail address I will forward you details of our waterbirth policy along 
with references
Wendy





From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Sally WestburySent: 13 January 2005 06:47To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Waterbirth 
Policy

Can people share their 
waterbirth policy from their units please.

Sally 
Westbury
Homebirth 
Midwife

"It takes 
courage to remain a true advocate for women, challenging authority and 
sacrificing social and professional acceptance. It takes courage for a woman to 
choose a caregiver who will truly advocate for and empower 
her." -Judy Slome Cohain

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Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally

2005-01-15 Thread Denise Hynd



Dear Sonja
having been at others I am glad to hear you have 
already planned a follow up one as too often in the past we have been misled 
aquieesced?
Denise Hynd

"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the 
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, 
our bodies will be handled."

— Linda Hes

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barry  
  Sonja 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 1:02 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally
  
  Dear all
  Just to let you know that there was an excellent 
  rally in Camden today to save our maternity unit. Over 300 people 
  attended with hopefully fantastic media coverage. It is amazing how many 
  mothers and babies and pregnant women will march in over 35 degree heat. 
  Look for us on the tele and the Sunday papers. We also hope to have a 
  bigger and better one in a months time if our demands to keep the unit open 
  are not met.
  Sonja


[ozmidwifery] home water birth in Hungary

2005-01-15 Thread Justine Caines
Dear All

I thought for those who don't get to see this often you may enjoy and be
inspired by this birth photo diary (100 photos) but quick to upload even on
my bush dial-up connection!

If this inspires you to get waterbirth happening or anything else, please
consider joining Maternity Coalition and getting active.

All we need is a consumer and preferably a midwife in a local area and we
will support you to effect change (lots of the hard work has been done, I
have a  hard drive full of it!!)

http://www.nandu.hu/English/Childbirth/Csenge100/csbirth01.htm

Enjoy

In solidarity

Justine

Justine Caines
National President  Maternity Coalition Inc
PO Box 105
MERRIWA  NSW  2329
Ph: (02) 65482248
Fax: (02)65482902
Mob: 0408 210273
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.maternitycoalition.org.au





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Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally

2005-01-15 Thread geesjeandsteve
Well done Sonja!
Thinkng of you all from COLD but lovely Holland
Geesje



 Barry  Sonja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Dear all
 Just to let you know that there was an excellent rally in Camden today 
 to save our maternity unit.  Over 300 people attended with hopefully 
 fantastic media coverage.  It is amazing how many mothers and babies 
 and pregnant women will march in over 35 degree heat.  Look for us on 
 the tele and the Sunday papers.  We also hope to have a bigger and 
 better one in a months time if our demands to keep the unit open are 
 not met.
 Sonja
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally

2005-01-15 Thread Barry Sonja
Geesje
We miss you and your inspiring wisdom!  Hope you are having a fabulous time
with your family.  Have you started work yet.
Will try and email you some photos so that you don't forget us!
Sonja
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Camden Rally


 Well done Sonja!
 Thinkng of you all from COLD but lovely Holland
 Geesje



  Barry  Sonja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear all
  Just to let you know that there was an excellent rally in Camden today
  to save our maternity unit.  Over 300 people attended with hopefully
  fantastic media coverage.  It is amazing how many mothers and babies
  and pregnant women will march in over 35 degree heat.  Look for us on
  the tele and the Sunday papers.  We also hope to have a bigger and
  better one in a months time if our demands to keep the unit open are
  not met.
  Sonja
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre

2005-01-15 Thread Ken WArd



The 
birth centre where I work offers midwife care throughout antenatal, intrapartum 
and post natal. We encourage non-drug use in labour, but do have gas and 
morphine. These are NEVER offered, and not given on first ask. It is 
between the midwife the woman and her supports when drugs are used, the vast 
majority do not even think about it. Nitros does not affect her choice for 
a water birth, but morphine does, she can labour in water. Iv therapy can 
be given to rehydrate if necessary, and ceased once a litre has been given. We 
have research based policies, and are therefore more liberal than delivery 
suite. eg 48 hours RM, 42 weeks before induction, trans. to DS. 
No CTGs. Physiological 3rd stage except for previous pph and 'at risk' 
such as prolonged second stage. We inundate our clients with info, pros 
and cons, and encourage them to do their own research. They are usually 
home in 24hrs. We are no longer doing VBACs, due to obest. 
intervention.. 
Maureen

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  dianeSent: Saturday, 15 January 2005 12:05 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth 
  Centre
  Ok, ive outed myself now,
  I have been lurking on this list, drawing upon 
  the wisdom of all you beautiful, passionate women, for some time now and I 
  finally have a question.
  What is the accepted Australian definition of a 
  "Birth Centre"? Is there one?
  Our midwifery led, low risk unit offers team 
  midwifery and hopefully soon, caseload care. Our brand new unit is linked 
  closely to the maternity ward where we have only postnatal care. 
  We have obstetricians available on call, and they 
  have the ability to perform an emergency c/s if needed.
  We would love to call our new unit, with it's big 
  baths in all three birthing rooms, a birth centre as this would help to 
  demedicalise the concept and help us bring our midwifery services to the local 
  women and the community.
  Any thoughts?
  
  Di.


Re: [ozmidwifery] home water birth in Hungary

2005-01-15 Thread twiggy3
Hi Justine,

Andrea (lady having the waterbirth) is a friend of mine and is currently 
studying a very intensive midwifery program in the US in an effort to be able 
to return to Hungry and continue on with her inspiring work of fighting for 
the rights of Hungarian women to be allowed to legally homebirth their babies.

She is living on practically nothing with her 2 children in Texas at the 
moment.  I think there may be a link on her site to donate funds for her cause.

She is a beautiful inspiring lady and deeply committed to gaining rights for 
birthing women in her native Hungry.

Regards

Jayne


 Dear All
 
 I thought for those who don't get to see this often you may enjoy and be
 inspired by this birth photo diary (100 photos) but quick to upload even on
 my bush dial-up connection!
 
 If this inspires you to get waterbirth happening or anything else, please
 consider joining Maternity Coalition and getting active.
 
 All we need is a consumer and preferably a midwife in a local area and we
 will support you to effect change (lots of the hard work has been done, I
 have a  hard drive full of it!!)
 
 http://www.nandu.hu/English/Childbirth/Csenge100/csbirth01.htm
 
 Enjoy
 
 In solidarity
 
 Justine
 
 Justine Caines
 National President  Maternity Coalition Inc
 PO Box 105
 MERRIWA  NSW  2329
 Ph: (02) 65482248
 Fax: (02)65482902
 Mob: 0408 210273
 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.maternitycoalition.org.au
 
 
 
 
 
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[ozmidwifery] William Mary

2005-01-15 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear Ozmid
I hope you have all been enjoying the glimpses of midwifery in William and
Mary on Saturday nights on 7.
Including the birth centre last night!!
I have recorded it when not in - though last week got the concert on tape 
but came
home in time to see Mary's best  birth.
Mary's idea of her  best birth did not come near the one's I experienced on
the Community Midwifery Program..
Still it is wonderfull to see a  fiesty midwife looking after women and this 
week she gave it to the doctor with no manners !!

I trust we will all let Channel 7 know we want to see more of William  Mary 
!!

http://www.seven.com.au/seven/contactus_040201_contactseven
Denise Hynd
Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the
sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
anyone, our bodies will be handled.
- Linda Hes
- Original Message - 
From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Centre


Hi Di,
Have to hoe in on this one. I have been very concerned about the
definition of a Birth Centre for some time. In the UK, where I do tend
to get about a bit each year, many hospitals are suddenly sporting Birth
Centres.  For example, I have a glossy brochure from the Birth Centre at
Chelsea and Westminster Hospital in London (very up market, famous and
fashionable) where they proudly state that at their Birth Centre you can
have everything except and epidural.  In practice this means you could
be induced, have pethidine, certainly Entonox (nitrous oxide) and even
electronic monitoring in their birth centre.  There are water births there
of course, and it claims to be midwifery led care, but it makes you
wonder.
At Guys and St Thomas' Hospital (the home of Florence Nightingale) in
London, the Birth Centre' sign outside the main lift actually leads to
the regular labour ward and it is the Home from Home Unit that  tries to
approximate the homelike atmosphere usually associated with birth centres
(as long as you like wall to wall bright blue paint). Kings College
Hospital in London has done the same thing - a real con for women who
think they are going to a birth centre and then find they are having all
the usual obstetric care found in big city teaching establishments. In the
UK all the birth centres I have heard of offer drugs in labour and other
invasive management techniques such as mandatory 15 minutely checks of the
fetal heartrate during  first stage and after every contraction in 2nd
stage (although a NICE guideline, there is no evidence that supports this
doctrine).
To my mind, a birth centre is run by a select team of midwives (not
midwives who are allocated on a needs basis from the regular labour ward)
and the aim is to promote midwifery and natural birth.  That means no
drugs, monitors, drips or interventions. If a problem develops, the woman
is transferred to labour ward where she can get the necessary and
appropriate help. Water and other non pharmacological comfort aids are
encouraged and a family atmosphere prevails, with the woman free to bring
whomever she likes to the centre with her. Siblings as well, if desired.
This was how the original birth centres operated when they opened in the
early 80s. The concept seems to have become diluted over the years, which
I think is a shame, for the women and for the midwives. A birth centre
offers a midwife the chance to gain confidence in natural labour and
birth, which will give her skills she may then decide to use in home
settings.
These days, midwives are under such pressure from management
(euphemistically called risk management) that they feel obliged to carry
out unnecessary observations and apply rigid criteria over every aspect of
the admission to the program and the following care that they can hardly
operate as autonomous practitioners. I remember well that the first birth
centre at Crown Street was established as a means of stamping out home
births, the thinking being that women would come to a nice cosy birth
centre in a hospital if it was pretty enough and not risk a  home birth.
They were wrong of course!
There is the argument that hospitals should be seen as birth centres
because that is where babies are born and I can accept that as a valid
argument. However, the birth reform movement created this term birth
centre (an American idea) as a means of delineating midwifery care and
natural birth from the standard hospital approach. I fear we are losing
sight of these original goals.
Sorry about the rave. I have written about this before, especially in
Diary entries, but it keeps cropping up. I will be interested to see what
others feed back to the discussion.
Andrea
At 12:05 AM 15/01/2005, you wrote:
Ok, ive outed myself now,
I have been lurking on this list, drawing upon the wisdom of all you
beautiful, passionate women, for some time now and I finally have a
question.
What is the accepted 

Re: [ozmidwifery] William Mary

2005-01-15 Thread Jen Semple
Yes, I've loved William  Mary  have sent a message
to 7 as well!

Jen

 --- Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Dear Ozmid
 I hope you have all been enjoying the glimpses of
 midwifery in William and
 Mary on Saturday nights on 7.
 Including the birth centre last night!!
 
 I have recorded it when not in - though last week
 got the concert on tape 
 but came
 home in time to see Mary's best  birth.
 Mary's idea of her  best birth did not come near the
 one's I experienced on
 the Community Midwifery Program..
 Still it is wonderfull to see a  fiesty midwife
 looking after women and this 
 week she gave it to the doctor with no manners !!
 
 I trust we will all let Channel 7 know we want to
 see more of William  Mary 
 !!
 

http://www.seven.com.au/seven/contactus_040201_contactseven
 
 Denise Hynd
 
 Let us support one another, not just in philosophy
 but in action, for the
 sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how
 and by whom, if by
 anyone, our bodies will be handled.
 
 - Linda Hes

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[ozmidwifery] VBACs

2005-01-15 Thread Dierdre Bowman








Hi all,



I was hoping that I could get feed back from any of you
about what low risk centres in Australia permit VBACs. Someone told
me that there is a birth centre in Sydney that does
but I was after some confirmation. If
any one works in a Low risk centre and VBAC is still an option
there could you please let me know.



Thanks Dierdre B.








RE: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!!

2005-01-15 Thread Dierdre Bowman
Yes it is great news about Caroline! I new you could do it! Love and
best wishes 
Dierdre 

Also have another query. I have a sister in law who ventures from
Thailand and she has in her broken English been asking me about a pill
that women can take to cleanse their woman areas. She says that she
takes about once a month and helps with cleansing after menstral period.
She tells me it decreases any odurs that may come from her womanly areas
and is desperate to find out how to get it here in Australia.  If anyone
has any idea what this might be could you please fill me in as I have no
idea what to suggest to her.
Dierdre B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn
Kleidon
Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:32 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas)
McCullough!!

fantastic news, congratulations to Cas and her baby, Wayne and Lynne and
Vicki.

much love
marilyn
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From: Jodie Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Triumphant birth for Caroline (Cas) McCullough!!


This is a quick note to all Cas's friends in birth reform. At 5.45 this
am,
Adam Samuel McCullough was roared into this world with the love and
perseverence of mum Caroline and dad Wayne at Selangor Private Hospital
near
Maleny (Qld) with midwives Lynne and Vicki.

After a lng pregnancy and a lng pre-labour he only took a rapid
5
hours (or so) to greet his parents. Naturally Cas and Wayne are ecstatic
to
have achieved a totally natural vaginal birth after two prior
caesareans!!
Please send your congratulations and support to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please feel free to pass on the news!
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RE: [ozmidwifery] VBACs

2005-01-15 Thread Jane Palmer



Dear 
Deirdre

The 
Birth Centre at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital does definitely accept VBACs and 
I'm reasonably sure that the Royal Women's Birth Centre does as 
well.

Cheers

Jane

Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond www.pregnancy.com.au 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dierdre 
  BowmanSent: Tuesday, 1 January 2002 4:33 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] 
  VBACs
  
  Hi 
  all,
  
  I was hoping that I could get feed 
  back from any of you about what low risk centres in 
  Australia permit 
  VBACs. 
  Someone told me that there is a birth centre in 
  Sydney that does 
  but I was after some confirmation. 
  If any one works in a Low risk centre and VBAC is still an option 
  there could you please let me know.
  
  Thanks Dierdre 
B.