Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
Australian Unity also have excellent cover for homebirth but you have to get it in writing from them first. cheers Jo At 2:36 PM +1000 3/8/05, Janet Fraser wrote: Excellent news, Andrea. I await with interest, as does the rest of Joyous Birth! The defence forces gold standard cover pays for hb entirely, which is also useful to know : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] QLD midwives
Hi list Are there any midwives in Brisbane on the list? I have a friend moving up to QLD and will be starting work at the Mater, and was hoping to put her in contact with some people already up there. thanks in anticpation Katrina :-) attachment: smallnps2.jpg www.niagaraparkshow.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
How exciting. I've been with HBA for years, rang them today re this. They didn't know anything about it but I asked them to get a manager to call me to discuss it. If I can get cover for homebirth from HBA then maybe I can have a homebirth after all. It's probably just wishful thinking that I'll get the health cover, find the midwives, and also have my babies keep behaving themselves to be safe for a homebirth, but who knows. Can't hurt to try. Ob booked c/section for 38 weeks at last visit as both bubs had been transverse for over a month, but at scan on Monday they were both head down for the whole scan, then one flipped completely over by the end of it, so clearly they're both still very mobile despite being 2326 g 3068 g. Yvette http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t/twingirlslb/ - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maternity Coalition [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] HBA I have been told by a client today that she has had a letter from HBA saying that they will be putting home birth on their list of rebatable items. They are stating that it will come in from a date soon but that those who have made inquiries will be included so suggest that all women who have HBA insurance make enquiries. The client is coming to see me on Saturday and I have asked her to bring me the name and number of the preson she has been communicating with and I will post it on the list Well done HBA, another fund that we will be able to support. Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
Hi Lindsay GO FOR IT! It would be so nice for you and your babes to have a lovely homebirth. Happy to assist you re pushing for it. I help heaps of Mums through Homebirth Australia get a rebate. You need to talk to a midwife soon though just in case!! Robyn Thompson would be a good one My 2 are very little but seemingly fine, gee already 3kgs, good work JC Justine Caines Secretary Homebirth Australia PO Box 105 Merriwa NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.homebirthaustralia.org -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Just thought I'd share....
Hello Julie I have children with disabilities and this story has been 'doing the rounds' for many years. Originally penned by Erma Bombeck I believe. It is a good one and has brought comfort to many - I still use it when meeting with parents of newly diagnosed kids. It is also true of many situations in life where you didn't get to be where you were expecting to be! I have many others but this one seems to be the most used. Thanks for sharing Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Julie Castle To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:12 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Just thought I'd share Hello Listwives, I would like to share this analogy with you. Our tutor gave this to us after a lecture about women who have had a baby with an abnormality. It never fails to move me. HOLIDAY TO ITALY When you are going to have a baby its like planning a holiday in Italy. You are all excited you get lots of guide books and learn a few phrases in Italian so you can get around. When the time comes you pack your bags and head for the airport to catch your flight to Italy. Only when you land and the stewardess says, Welcome to Holland do you look at one another in shock and say, Holland? What are you talking about? We booked a holiday to Italy! They then explain that there has been a change of plans and you have landed in Holland where you have to stay. But I dont know anything about Holland! you say. I dont want to stay. But you do stay and you go out and buy some guide books. You learn some new phrases and you meet new people. The important thing is that you are not in the filthy plague infested slum full of pestilence and famine. You are simply in a different place from the one you planned. It is a slower pace than Italy and less flashy, but after you have been there for a while and you have had a chance to catch your breath, you begin to discover that Holland has windmills, Holland has tulips, Holland has Rembrandts! Of course everyone you know is busy coming and going to Italy. They are all bragging about what a great time they had there. For the rest of your life you will say, Yes, thats what I planned. Thats where I was going. The pain of that will never go away. You have to accept that pain because of the loss of your dream, the loss of that plan, is a very very significant loss. But if you spend your life mourning the fact that you did not get to Italy you will never be free to enjoy the very special, the very lovely things about Holland. Love Julie, 2nd year s/m No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.9/62 - Release Date: 2/08/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
Hi Yvette, Hope you can manage the home birth. Don't forget, he can book all he likes but can't cut till you sign the consent form. I know he can bully but be strong and hold out for what you feel is best for you and the babies. Cheers Judy --- Lindsay Yvette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How exciting. I've been with HBA for years, rang them today re this. They didn't know anything about it but I asked them to get a manager to call me to discuss it. If I can get cover for homebirth from HBA then maybe I can have a homebirth after all. It's probably just wishful thinking that I'll get the health cover, find the midwives, and also have my babies keep behaving themselves to be safe for a homebirth, but who knows. Can't hurt to try. Ob booked c/section for 38 weeks at last visit as both bubs had been transverse for over a month, but at scan on Monday they were both head down for the whole scan, then one flipped completely over by the end of it, so clearly they're both still very mobile despite being 2326 g 3068 g. Yvette http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t/twingirlslb/ - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Maternity Coalition [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:30 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] HBA I have been told by a client today that she has had a letter from HBA saying that they will be putting home birth on their list of rebatable items. They are stating that it will come in from a date soon but that those who have made inquiries will be included so suggest that all women who have HBA insurance make enquiries. The client is coming to see me on Saturday and I have asked her to bring me the name and number of the preson she has been communicating with and I will post it on the list Well done HBA, another fund that we will be able to support. Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
Hi all, I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions on here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg,how it can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!), and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable. Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles? Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point of information and inspiration : ) Holly (mum of four)
Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
I help heaps of Mums through Homebirth Australia get a rebate. Justine we'd love to hear more about this in Joyous Birth. Can you email me details of what you do? Thanks! J http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day
Dear Jo It is September like 9/11!! Denise Hynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. - Linda Hes - Original Message - From: jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 7:20 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day Hi Denise, Is that 11th of Aug or 11th of Sept?? I'm discussing organizing something at Birth Central in Sydney with Renee Adair. Cheers Jo Hunter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denise Hynd Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2005 8:31 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day Hi everyone, Just letting you all know that the National Caesarean Awareness Day 2005 is fast approaching and currently we have four states hosting an event. The theme for this year is VBAC and/or VBAC preparation. On Sunday the 11th celebrations will include: South Australia~ 10am until 4pm. Vaginal Birth After Caesarean Opportunities Guest speakers being an OB, an MGP midwife both discussing VBAC research and management and then an active birth workshop for both consumers and care providers conducted by Andrea Robertson focusing on maximising your vbac success. Extras will include statistical information; planning and preparation; emotional issues related to CS including post traumatic stress; healing after cs; and empowering birth after cs. We have birth photos, videos, stories, quotes and art on display. Patro of the day Hon Frances Bedford MP. Honorary guests include Hon Sandra Kanck MLC, Hon Kate Reynolds, Judi Brown CEO SA Nurses Board. Fullarton Park Centre. Registrations can be made with Frances Bedfords office 8263 2666 or contact Jo 8388 6918 Queensland~ 10am until 12pm. VBAC Birth Gently Powerfully. Guest speakers Dr Sarah Buckley, Lynne Staff, Melissa Bruijn, Caroline McCullogh. Morning tea supplied, market and information displays. Gold Coin donation. Griffith University Logan Campus Room 3.06, Hub Link Building. Contact: 07 3879 8378. Victoria~ 11am until 2pm. Birth Our Way- Strong and Powerful! Guest speakers include Sunderai Felich, Rhea Dempsey, Kerreen Reiger, Lyn Allison (also Offical Patron of the Day) and Sarah Eaton. Roofto Room Northcote Town Hall, 189High Street Northcote. Stories honouring birth experiences; VBAC how and why; Market stalls. Gold Coin donation. Contact:03 9499 8954 Western Australia~ A Pampering Day! Come and be pampered with massage, aromatheropy and the usch. Spoil yourself in your panning of a VBAC. Please contcat Rosemary from Birthrites -Healing After Caesarean www.birthrites.org It would be great opportunity to be involved and be supporting the consumer support groups who offer wonderful support to the women who suffer emotionally and physically from a cs experence or the process of planning a VBAC. Currently there is a firm commitment from channel 7 to cover the day. I think we should as the umbrella orgnisation that we are to support, be involved and be seen at these sorts of events. For more information give me a bell, Cheers Jo Bainbridge CD CARES SA SA Maternity Coalition Bloomin Good Birth -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/MCMgtCte/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://au.docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 27/07/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 27/07/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA
I received benefits from HBA 11 1/2 years ago when I had my 1st son at home. They paid a fee for each prenatal visit with the midwife up to a certain amount (I think it worked out to $25.00 each visit) and then they paid a lump sum which from memory I think was $300.00, for the actual birth attendence fee.They would only cover one midwife though. The prenatal visits were covered under a 'home nursing' clause in the policy. Jayne - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] HBA Australian Unity also have excellent cover for homebirth but you have to get it in writing from them first. cheers Jo At 2:36 PM +1000 3/8/05, Janet Fraser wrote: Excellent news, Andrea. I await with interest, as does the rest of Joyous Birth! The defence forces gold standard cover pays for hb entirely, which is also useful to know : ) J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MCMgtCte] National Caesraean Awareness Day
We asked around the nation after the world trade centre disaster and the unnanomious vote was to keep the NCAD date so we can have something related to birth rather than death. Plus the date was initally decided on in honour of Jackie Mawson from Birthrites to thank her for all that she has done for CS mums. It is the date of her first cs. Hence the keeping of the date SEPTEMBER 11 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] CARES SA + NCAD
The full details and registration forms will be made avaliable in the next few days for the CARES event. Sorry for the late notice. Cheers Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 8/1/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
one thing that is coming out of literature which asks women about their fears is that women significantly worry about how they will act in labour. A huge Italian study found that it is one of the highest rated fears women have. In my study it is certainly a reason that women use drugs or epidural, or find relief in that they stop behaving badly once the drugs shut them up/enable compliance. A huge part of womens reflections of labour iis embarresssment in how they behaved. I think this is important to address because the idea of being quiet, compliant, neat, tidy as in NOT messy, leaky noisy sweaty - really drives womens fears and the choices they then make for labour. It is a great shame that women have particular expectations of their behavior that is in no way reassuring, okay, normal, wonderful, strong and vital to birth. Belinda Luke M Priddis wrote: Hi all, I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions on here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg, how it can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!), and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable. Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles? Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point of information and inspiration : ) Holly (mum of four) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
So true. Self control is not always an appropriate thing. Women who need to be good girls( for the reasons we all know about) have to use alot of self control in labour, it's really hard work for them, sad. Brenda - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth one thing that is coming out of literature which asks women about their fears is that women significantly worry about how they will act in labour. A huge Italian study found that it is one of the highest rated fears women have. In my study it is certainly a reason that women use drugs or epidural, or find relief in that they stop behaving badly once the drugs shut them up/enable compliance. A huge part of womens reflections of labour iis embarresssment in how they behaved. I think this is important to address because the idea of being quiet, compliant, neat, tidy as in NOT messy, leaky noisy sweaty - really drives womens fears and the choices they then make for labour. It is a great shame that women have particular expectations of their behavior that is in no way reassuring, okay, normal, wonderful, strong and vital to birth. Belinda Luke M Priddis wrote: Hi all, I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions on here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg, how it can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!), and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable. Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles? Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point of information and inspiration : ) Holly (mum of four) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
Thanks Belinda, That's so true, and thanks so much for reminding me of that issue. I really appreciate everyone's viewpoint and help on this matter, seems there is a lot more to it than I originally thought. Is your study complete yet? Holly - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth one thing that is coming out of literature which asks women about their fears is that women significantly worry about how they will act in labour. A huge Italian study found that it is one of the highest rated fears women have. In my study it is certainly a reason that women use drugs or epidural, or find relief in that they stop behaving badly once the drugs shut them up/enable compliance. A huge part of womens reflections of labour iis embarresssment in how they behaved. I think this is important to address because the idea of being quiet, compliant, neat, tidy as in NOT messy, leaky noisy sweaty - really drives womens fears and the choices they then make for labour. It is a great shame that women have particular expectations of their behavior that is in no way reassuring, okay, normal, wonderful, strong and vital to birth. Belinda Luke M Priddis wrote: Hi all, I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions on here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg, how it can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!), and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable. Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles? Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point of information and inspiration : ) Holly (mum of four) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] article FYI
Behavioral problems may derive from maternal smoking Source: British Journal of Psychiatry 2005; 187: 155-60 Investigating whether the observed link between maternal smoking and antisocial behavior in offspring is mediated by attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder. Smoking during pregnancy significantly raises the risk of antisocial behavior in the child, independently of its influence on attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), UK research suggests. While the association between delinquency and maternal prenatal smoking has long been recognized, whether antisocial behavior is linked to smoking during pregnancy independently, or as a result of ADHD, has remained unknown, explains the team, led by Dr Tanya Button from the Institute of Psychiatry in London. To address this issue, they studied questionnaires evaluating antisocial behaviors and symptoms of ADHD completed by the parents of 723 identical and 1173 non-identical pairs of twins, who took part in the Cardiff Study of All Wales and North West England Twins. In all, 29.1 percent of the mothers reported smoking during pregnancy. Such smoking was found to affect children's scores for both antisocial behavior and ADHD, with average scores increasing with the number of cigarettes smoked per day. When fitting bivariate models to the data, the team found the best fit with a model in which maternal smoking had a specific, independent influence on each phenotype. Offering possible explanations for the findings, Dr Button suggested that the nicotine absorbed during smoking might impair fetal brain development, leading to neurological impairment, or that the effects of smoking could be mediated by a reduction in the level of oxygen reaching the fetus. Posted: 2 August 2005 Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
brendamanning wrote: So true. Self control is not always an appropriate thing. Women who need to be good girls( for the reasons we all know about) have to use alot of self control in labour, it's really hard work for them, sad. Brenda, that's very true. I had a homebirth 2 months ago, and I remember in late 1st stage, to the beginning of 2nd stage I was trying to get through one contraction with just breathing. Not a chance. I NEEDED to make my long low moans. I physically couldn't stop it coming out. I gave up trying, and it was a lot less hard work! I couldn't imagine giving birth in hospital and feeling like I should think of the other women next door who I might be scaring! Jo Mum to Will, 2 months old :) (and a midwife in a past life ;)) -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
The other issue is caregivers who are not comfortable with birth noises themselves. If they make some comment or encourage an epidural or pethidine becaue THEY can't handle it. I had a midwife make a comment to me at a birth once ( I was the doula) and I was shocked that she couldn't relax with the noises and see them as normal and necessary for some women. Perhaps they should inject themselves with the pethidine and leave the woman to it. Honey -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
