RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Tania Smallwood








Hi Kelly,



I co-ordinate the birthing pool for the
Homebirth Network of SA, and am happy to have my details published online, either
phone 08 8339 4074 or email is best.



Full Circle Birthing Services have 2 hard
sided pools also available for hire; they are contactable via Larissa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
Miriam at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hope that helps!



Tania

x











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
1:44 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool
Hire





Hello everyone,



Im just wondering if everyone could please let me
know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop it
in my waterbirth article I have too.



There is someone asking about Victoria at the moment but I would love to
put together a list for all states J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 










[ozmidwifery] FW: C-section Advertiser today 13th October

2005-10-13 Thread Tania Smallwood
Title: Message














Thursday 13th October 2005





Today's Advertiser (Adelaide) carries this article, page
34. FW FYI.











Good opportunity to send them a quick letter by 





Fax: 8206 3669

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advertiser talk back line: 8212 3488 (City) 1800 066 799 (country) 

(just a few lines,
for a short letter to appear in the paper, write it down first, takes only a
minute).











Caesarean delivery for half hospitals' babies
By LAURA ANDERSON
13oct05

ABOUT half of babies delivered at two of the state's largest private
hospitals are by caesarean section.

Documents from the hospitals' owner, the Adelaide Community Healthcare
Alliance, obtained by The Advertiser, detail birth rates. 



At Flinders Private Hospital last year, 452 of 797 births
were delivered by caesarean - a rate of 56.7 per cent. Of those, 240 were
elective caesarean births. At Ashford
 Hospital, 595 of 1200
births in 2004 were caesareans - a rate of 49.6 per cent. Of those, 286 were
elective. 

The
two rates are significantly higher than the statewide caesarean rate for 2003,
which was 30 per cent. 

SA
Democrats Leader Sandra Kanck, a staunch supporter of midwives delivering
babies, said the rate was unacceptably high and needed to be reduced. 

She
said World Health Organisation guidelines stated a caesarean rate higher than
15 per cent indicates over-utilisation. I think it is very
sad that obstetricians are able to convince so many women that a caesarean
section is an easy option, she said. Because it is not an easy
option. 

The
more emphasis we have on midwifery the better it will be in terms of
satisfaction and health outcomes. 

ACHA
chief executive Alan Lane,
however, said the two hospitals neither promote nor judge caesarean
section birth. Ultimately, it is the woman's choice, in
consultation with her obstetrician. A lot of women today feel a caesarean
section birth is safer, he said. 

What
we do is provide at Ashford and Flinders Private the safest childbirth
environment in the state's private health system. 

Ms
Kanck called for greater education for expectant mothers on options.

---

article
ends

---

Cathi
Tucker

Researcher in Health  PersonalAssistant to 

Hon. Sandra Kanck MLC, 

Leader SA Democrats

(08) 8237 9278 Phone

(08) 8410 4171 Fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.sa.democrats.org.au














Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Hi Kelly,
we keep a growing list on JB 
too. Pop in and take what you need : ) We've also got some we bought from the US 
being delivered some time soon so I'll let you know when that 
happens.
J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:14 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I’m just wondering if everyone 
  could please let me know who hires out birth pools around Australia - 
  women often ask where they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a 
  list together and pop it in my waterbirth article I have 
  too.
  
  There is someone asking about 
  Victoria at 
  the moment but I would love to put together a list for all states 
  J
  Best Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle 
  Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little 
  Tikes Specialists 
  


[ozmidwifery] fyi

2005-10-13 Thread Jennifairy


 Cooling blankets may reduce newborn brain damage

BY RONI RABIN
STAFF WRITER

October 12, 2005, 8:22 PM EDT

Lowering a newborn's body temperature after birth reduces risk of brain 
damage and death for babies who are deprived of oxygen before or during 
delivery, a new study has found.


Within hours of being born, newborns in the study were placed on cooling 
blankets that lowered their body temperature to about 92 degrees. The 
blankets, which had water circulating through them, were set at 41 
degrees. After three days, the babies were gradually warmed to a normal 
body temperature, which usually ranges from 99.7 degrees to 99.3 degrees.


The study of 208 infants at 15 medical centers was reported by 
researchers in the Neonatal Research Network of the National Institute 
of Child Health and Human Development, and appears today in the New 
England Journal of Medicine.


This is a very exciting, landmark study, said lead author Dr. Seetha 
Shankaran, head of the division of neonatal-perinatal medicine at Wayne 
State University School of Medicine in Detroit.


But the sponsors also urged caution, saying further research is 
necessary and warning that most hospitals should not attempt to the 
technique without training of personnel.


The babies must be closely monitored and strict protocols must be 
followed because temperature fluctuations could be harmful, the study 
authors said.


One in every 1,000 to 2,000 babies born suffers from hypoxic ischemic 
encephalopathy, which occurs when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen or 
blood in the hours before birth or during labor and delivery. These 
babies are at markedly increased risk of disability, including blindness 
and cerebral palsy, as well as death.


Babies who received the cooling treatment fared better than babies 
provided with standard treatment. Of the 208 babies in the study, 102 
infants were randomly assigned to undergo the experimental cooling while 
106 received standard care.


When the babies were examined at 18 to 22 months, 62 percent of the 
babies who received the standard treatment had died or developed a mild 
or severe disability, compared to 44 percent of those who had the 
cooling treatment. When all three outcomes -- death, moderate disability 
and severe disability -- were pooled, findings were statistically 
significant.


Among those who were cooled, 24 died, compared with 38 deaths in the 
control group.


Fifteen infants who had the experimental treatment developed cerebral 
palsy and five went blind, compared with 19 and nine, respectively, of 
thosee who had standard care.


Infants who received the cooling treatment also scored better on mental 
and physical development measures, the authors said. The children will 
be followed until they are 6 or 7 years old.


Several other studies investigating the benefits of cooling treatment 
are under way. Researchers at Schneider Children's Hospital in New Hyde 
Park have participated in a study that used a cooling cap to mitigate 
brain damage in newborns similarly afflicted by oxygen deprivation, and 
other studies are under way in Australia and England.


They key thing is that the cooling, whether by blanket or by cap, helps 
some babies, said Dr. Andrew Steele, a neonatologist at Schneider 
Children's Hospital involved in the cooling cap study.


Shankaran explained that when the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood, 
a cascade of abnormal events occurs, including formation of toxins and 
amino acids that damage brain cells. Cooling appears to work by reducing 
the energy of the brain itself, she said, thereby decreasing the 
abnormal toxins and actually reducing the swelling of brain cells.


It is a very promising, evolving therapy, but there's a lot more work 
to be done, alot of questions still to be answered, said Dr. Ann Stark, 
chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on the Fetus and 
Newborn Health.


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RE: [ozmidwifery] fyi

2005-10-13 Thread Tania Smallwood
I think they have been conducting a trial of this at FMC here in Adelaide...

Tania


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifairy
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 5:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] fyi


  Cooling blankets may reduce newborn brain damage

BY RONI RABIN
STAFF WRITER

October 12, 2005, 8:22 PM EDT

Lowering a newborn's body temperature after birth reduces risk of brain 
damage and death for babies who are deprived of oxygen before or during 
delivery, a new study has found.

Within hours of being born, newborns in the study were placed on cooling 
blankets that lowered their body temperature to about 92 degrees. The 
blankets, which had water circulating through them, were set at 41 
degrees. After three days, the babies were gradually warmed to a normal 
body temperature, which usually ranges from 99.7 degrees to 99.3 degrees.

The study of 208 infants at 15 medical centers was reported by 
researchers in the Neonatal Research Network of the National Institute 
of Child Health and Human Development, and appears today in the New 
England Journal of Medicine.

This is a very exciting, landmark study, said lead author Dr. Seetha 
Shankaran, head of the division of neonatal-perinatal medicine at Wayne 
State University School of Medicine in Detroit.

But the sponsors also urged caution, saying further research is 
necessary and warning that most hospitals should not attempt to the 
technique without training of personnel.

The babies must be closely monitored and strict protocols must be 
followed because temperature fluctuations could be harmful, the study 
authors said.

One in every 1,000 to 2,000 babies born suffers from hypoxic ischemic 
encephalopathy, which occurs when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen or 
blood in the hours before birth or during labor and delivery. These 
babies are at markedly increased risk of disability, including blindness 
and cerebral palsy, as well as death.

Babies who received the cooling treatment fared better than babies 
provided with standard treatment. Of the 208 babies in the study, 102 
infants were randomly assigned to undergo the experimental cooling while 
106 received standard care.

When the babies were examined at 18 to 22 months, 62 percent of the 
babies who received the standard treatment had died or developed a mild 
or severe disability, compared to 44 percent of those who had the 
cooling treatment. When all three outcomes -- death, moderate disability 
and severe disability -- were pooled, findings were statistically 
significant.

Among those who were cooled, 24 died, compared with 38 deaths in the 
control group.

Fifteen infants who had the experimental treatment developed cerebral 
palsy and five went blind, compared with 19 and nine, respectively, of 
thosee who had standard care.

Infants who received the cooling treatment also scored better on mental 
and physical development measures, the authors said. The children will 
be followed until they are 6 or 7 years old.

Several other studies investigating the benefits of cooling treatment 
are under way. Researchers at Schneider Children's Hospital in New Hyde 
Park have participated in a study that used a cooling cap to mitigate 
brain damage in newborns similarly afflicted by oxygen deprivation, and 
other studies are under way in Australia and England.

They key thing is that the cooling, whether by blanket or by cap, helps 
some babies, said Dr. Andrew Steele, a neonatologist at Schneider 
Children's Hospital involved in the cooling cap study.

Shankaran explained that when the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood, 
a cascade of abnormal events occurs, including formation of toxins and 
amino acids that damage brain cells. Cooling appears to work by reducing 
the energy of the brain itself, she said, thereby decreasing the 
abnormal toxins and actually reducing the swelling of brain cells.

It is a very promising, evolving therapy, but there's a lot more work 
to be done, alot of questions still to be answered, said Dr. Ann Stark, 
chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on the Fetus and 
Newborn Health.

Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

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[no subject]

2005-10-13 Thread Jan Ireland



help help 
where is perinatal data thing tomorrow jan 



RE: [ozmidwifery] fyi

2005-10-13 Thread Mary Murphy
So, do we keep the baby warm or do we uncover it and let it cool?  MM


  Cooling blankets may reduce newborn brain damage

BY RONI RABIN
STAFF WRITER

October 12, 2005, 8:22 PM EDT

Lowering a newborn's body temperature after birth reduces risk of brain 
damage and death for babies who are deprived of oxygen before or during 
delivery, a new study has found.

Within hours of being born, newborns in the study were placed on cooling 
blankets that lowered their body temperature to about 92 degrees. The 
blankets, which had water circulating through them, were set at 41 
degrees. After three days, the babies were gradually warmed to a normal 
body temperature, which usually ranges from 99.7 degrees to 99.3 degrees.

The study of 208 infants at 15 medical centers was reported by 
researchers in the Neonatal Research Network of the National Institute 
of Child Health and Human Development, and appears today in the New 
England Journal of Medicine.

This is a very exciting, landmark study, said lead author Dr. Seetha 
Shankaran, head of the division of neonatal-perinatal medicine at Wayne 
State University School of Medicine in Detroit.

But the sponsors also urged caution, saying further research is 
necessary and warning that most hospitals should not attempt to the 
technique without training of personnel.

The babies must be closely monitored and strict protocols must be 
followed because temperature fluctuations could be harmful, the study 
authors said.

One in every 1,000 to 2,000 babies born suffers from hypoxic ischemic 
encephalopathy, which occurs when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen or 
blood in the hours before birth or during labor and delivery. These 
babies are at markedly increased risk of disability, including blindness 
and cerebral palsy, as well as death.

Babies who received the cooling treatment fared better than babies 
provided with standard treatment. Of the 208 babies in the study, 102 
infants were randomly assigned to undergo the experimental cooling while 
106 received standard care.

When the babies were examined at 18 to 22 months, 62 percent of the 
babies who received the standard treatment had died or developed a mild 
or severe disability, compared to 44 percent of those who had the 
cooling treatment. When all three outcomes -- death, moderate disability 
and severe disability -- were pooled, findings were statistically 
significant.

Among those who were cooled, 24 died, compared with 38 deaths in the 
control group.

Fifteen infants who had the experimental treatment developed cerebral 
palsy and five went blind, compared with 19 and nine, respectively, of 
thosee who had standard care.

Infants who received the cooling treatment also scored better on mental 
and physical development measures, the authors said. The children will 
be followed until they are 6 or 7 years old.

Several other studies investigating the benefits of cooling treatment 
are under way. Researchers at Schneider Children's Hospital in New Hyde 
Park have participated in a study that used a cooling cap to mitigate 
brain damage in newborns similarly afflicted by oxygen deprivation, and 
other studies are under way in Australia and England.

They key thing is that the cooling, whether by blanket or by cap, helps 
some babies, said Dr. Andrew Steele, a neonatologist at Schneider 
Children's Hospital involved in the cooling cap study.

Shankaran explained that when the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood, 
a cascade of abnormal events occurs, including formation of toxins and 
amino acids that damage brain cells. Cooling appears to work by reducing 
the energy of the brain itself, she said, thereby decreasing the 
abnormal toxins and actually reducing the swelling of brain cells.

It is a very promising, evolving therapy, but there's a lot more work 
to be done, alot of questions still to be answered, said Dr. Ann Stark, 
chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on the Fetus and 
Newborn Health.

Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

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Re: [ozmidwifery] fyi

2005-10-13 Thread Honey Acharya
I think it is for only babies in these situations that have been identified
as clearly having been deprived of oxygen during birth. But it makes me
wonder about all these babies that are taken away from mum's chest
(particulary while she is being sewn up after a c-sect) because the baby
will get too cold!! It might make for good argument to let babies stay skin
to skin and let mum's body temp do the warming and cooling thing. I'm not a
midwife yet so don't understand as well as the rest of you perhaps. But
that's my humble opinion.
Honey
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] fyi


 So, do we keep the baby warm or do we uncover it and let it cool?  MM


   Cooling blankets may reduce newborn brain damage

 BY RONI RABIN
 STAFF WRITER

 October 12, 2005, 8:22 PM EDT

 Lowering a newborn's body temperature after birth reduces risk of brain
 damage and death for babies who are deprived of oxygen before or during
 delivery, a new study has found.

 Within hours of being born, newborns in the study were placed on cooling
 blankets that lowered their body temperature to about 92 degrees. The
 blankets, which had water circulating through them, were set at 41
 degrees. After three days, the babies were gradually warmed to a normal
 body temperature, which usually ranges from 99.7 degrees to 99.3 degrees.

 The study of 208 infants at 15 medical centers was reported by
 researchers in the Neonatal Research Network of the National Institute
 of Child Health and Human Development, and appears today in the New
 England Journal of Medicine.

 This is a very exciting, landmark study, said lead author Dr. Seetha
 Shankaran, head of the division of neonatal-perinatal medicine at Wayne
 State University School of Medicine in Detroit.

 But the sponsors also urged caution, saying further research is
 necessary and warning that most hospitals should not attempt to the
 technique without training of personnel.

 The babies must be closely monitored and strict protocols must be
 followed because temperature fluctuations could be harmful, the study
 authors said.

 One in every 1,000 to 2,000 babies born suffers from hypoxic ischemic
 encephalopathy, which occurs when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen or
 blood in the hours before birth or during labor and delivery. These
 babies are at markedly increased risk of disability, including blindness
 and cerebral palsy, as well as death.

 Babies who received the cooling treatment fared better than babies
 provided with standard treatment. Of the 208 babies in the study, 102
 infants were randomly assigned to undergo the experimental cooling while
 106 received standard care.

 When the babies were examined at 18 to 22 months, 62 percent of the
 babies who received the standard treatment had died or developed a mild
 or severe disability, compared to 44 percent of those who had the
 cooling treatment. When all three outcomes -- death, moderate disability
 and severe disability -- were pooled, findings were statistically
 significant.

 Among those who were cooled, 24 died, compared with 38 deaths in the
 control group.

 Fifteen infants who had the experimental treatment developed cerebral
 palsy and five went blind, compared with 19 and nine, respectively, of
 thosee who had standard care.

 Infants who received the cooling treatment also scored better on mental
 and physical development measures, the authors said. The children will
 be followed until they are 6 or 7 years old.

 Several other studies investigating the benefits of cooling treatment
 are under way. Researchers at Schneider Children's Hospital in New Hyde
 Park have participated in a study that used a cooling cap to mitigate
 brain damage in newborns similarly afflicted by oxygen deprivation, and
 other studies are under way in Australia and England.

 They key thing is that the cooling, whether by blanket or by cap, helps
 some babies, said Dr. Andrew Steele, a neonatologist at Schneider
 Children's Hospital involved in the cooling cap study.

 Shankaran explained that when the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood,
 a cascade of abnormal events occurs, including formation of toxins and
 amino acids that damage brain cells. Cooling appears to work by reducing
 the energy of the brain itself, she said, thereby decreasing the
 abnormal toxins and actually reducing the swelling of brain cells.

 It is a very promising, evolving therapy, but there's a lot more work
 to be done, alot of questions still to be answered, said Dr. Ann Stark,
 chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on the Fetus and
 Newborn Health.

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Mary Murphy








The Midwifery  Natural Childbirth
Centre at 336 Oxford St
Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
We have 5. MM











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
12:14 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool
Hire





Hello everyone,



Im just wondering if everyone could please let me
know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop it
in my waterbirth article I have too.



There is someone asking about Victoria at the moment but I would love to
put together a list for all states J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 










RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








Thanks Mary and Janet  I will add
the details  will be great to have such a reference like this for women
because I struggled to find this info too  had no idea where to look when
I was pregnant with my two babies.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth
 Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
9:05 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth
Pool Hire





The Midwifery  Natural Childbirth
Centre at 336 Oxford St
Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
We have 5. MM











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
12:14 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool
Hire





Hello everyone,



Im just wondering if everyone could please let me know
who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop it
in my waterbirth article I have too.



There is someone asking about Victoria at the moment but I would love to
put together a list for all states J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 










Re: [ozmidwifery] Convenience

2005-10-13 Thread JoFromOz




Ken WArd wrote:

  
  
  
  I think a puppy is so much easier.


OOh, but think of those sharp little puppy teeth on tender nipples!

Jo

   
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Maxine
Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2005 9:32 PM
To: ozmid
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Convenience


I have a friend who is a
breastfeeding counsellor and I always remember her exasperation when
after some frustrating interaction with someone who wanted a convenient
baby she said .. "I don't know why they just didn't get a puppy!"
Maxine
  






Re: [ozmidwifery] Convenience

2005-10-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Another compelling reason to 
not even start breastfeeding, Jo.
You made me laugh lots with 
this one LOL.
;0)
J

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  JoFromOz 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:18 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 
  Convenience
  Ken WArd wrote: 
  



I 
think a puppy is so much easier.OOh, but 
  think of those sharp little puppy teeth on tender nipples!Jo
  


  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Maxine WilsonSent: Wednesday, 12 October 2005 
  9:32 PMTo: ozmidSubject: [ozmidwifery] 
  Convenience
  I have a friend who is a 
  breastfeeding counsellor and I always remember her exasperation when after 
  some frustrating interaction with someone who wanted a convenient baby she 
  said .. "I don't know why they just didn't get a puppy!"
  Maxine


[ozmidwifery] How babies come into the world

2005-10-13 Thread Alice Morgan


Thought this might give people a laugh. Shame about the lack of a midwife, 
but worth a laugh. :)


_
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http://www.carpoint.com.au/sellyourcar


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Re: [ozmidwifery] fyi

2005-10-13 Thread cath nolan
I went to a neonatal stabilisation update recently run by the wants team. 
The bottom line is that this is for seriously unwell babies , not run of the 
mill sick babies so to speak. I asked the same question and it is stilol 
very much the practise to keep our babies warm as we do. It is only a select 
group of babis that this is appropriate for ie suspected IVH etc, Cath.
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] fyi



So, do we keep the baby warm or do we uncover it and let it cool?  MM


 Cooling blankets may reduce newborn brain damage

BY RONI RABIN
STAFF WRITER

October 12, 2005, 8:22 PM EDT

Lowering a newborn's body temperature after birth reduces risk of brain
damage and death for babies who are deprived of oxygen before or during
delivery, a new study has found.

Within hours of being born, newborns in the study were placed on cooling
blankets that lowered their body temperature to about 92 degrees. The
blankets, which had water circulating through them, were set at 41
degrees. After three days, the babies were gradually warmed to a normal
body temperature, which usually ranges from 99.7 degrees to 99.3 degrees.

The study of 208 infants at 15 medical centers was reported by
researchers in the Neonatal Research Network of the National Institute
of Child Health and Human Development, and appears today in the New
England Journal of Medicine.

This is a very exciting, landmark study, said lead author Dr. Seetha
Shankaran, head of the division of neonatal-perinatal medicine at Wayne
State University School of Medicine in Detroit.

But the sponsors also urged caution, saying further research is
necessary and warning that most hospitals should not attempt to the
technique without training of personnel.

The babies must be closely monitored and strict protocols must be
followed because temperature fluctuations could be harmful, the study
authors said.

One in every 1,000 to 2,000 babies born suffers from hypoxic ischemic
encephalopathy, which occurs when the brain doesn't get enough oxygen or
blood in the hours before birth or during labor and delivery. These
babies are at markedly increased risk of disability, including blindness
and cerebral palsy, as well as death.

Babies who received the cooling treatment fared better than babies
provided with standard treatment. Of the 208 babies in the study, 102
infants were randomly assigned to undergo the experimental cooling while
106 received standard care.

When the babies were examined at 18 to 22 months, 62 percent of the
babies who received the standard treatment had died or developed a mild
or severe disability, compared to 44 percent of those who had the
cooling treatment. When all three outcomes -- death, moderate disability
and severe disability -- were pooled, findings were statistically
significant.

Among those who were cooled, 24 died, compared with 38 deaths in the
control group.

Fifteen infants who had the experimental treatment developed cerebral
palsy and five went blind, compared with 19 and nine, respectively, of
thosee who had standard care.

Infants who received the cooling treatment also scored better on mental
and physical development measures, the authors said. The children will
be followed until they are 6 or 7 years old.

Several other studies investigating the benefits of cooling treatment
are under way. Researchers at Schneider Children's Hospital in New Hyde
Park have participated in a study that used a cooling cap to mitigate
brain damage in newborns similarly afflicted by oxygen deprivation, and
other studies are under way in Australia and England.

They key thing is that the cooling, whether by blanket or by cap, helps
some babies, said Dr. Andrew Steele, a neonatologist at Schneider
Children's Hospital involved in the cooling cap study.

Shankaran explained that when the brain is deprived of oxygen and blood,
a cascade of abnormal events occurs, including formation of toxins and
amino acids that damage brain cells. Cooling appears to work by reducing
the energy of the brain itself, she said, thereby decreasing the
abnormal toxins and actually reducing the swelling of brain cells.

It is a very promising, evolving therapy, but there's a lot more work
to be done, alot of questions still to be answered, said Dr. Ann Stark,
chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on the Fetus and
Newborn Health.

Copyright 2005 Newsday Inc.

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RE: [ozmidwifery] How babies come into the world

2005-10-13 Thread Alice Morgan


Oops.would help if I posted the link

http://www.livejournal.com/users/freeparking/76684.html#cutid1


From: Alice Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] How babies come into the world
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:41:33 +0930


Thought this might give people a laugh. Shame about the lack of a midwife, 
but worth a laugh. :)


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[ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections? I don't think so

2005-10-13 Thread Gloria Lemay



This is a group that no one has thought to blame 
the high cesarean rate on. Hmm. Gloria


Scotland on Sunday - October 2, 
2005Squeamish men pushing wives towards Caesareans RICHARD 
GRAY HEALTH CORRESPONDENT FRETTING fathers-to-be are fuelling 
Scotland's soaring Caesarean sectionrate because they do not like to see 
their pregnant partners in pain,midwives have warned. They claim many 
worried husbands are afraid of the mess and noise thataccompanies natural 
childbirth.  Instead they are encouraging their wives to give birth at 
largeconsultant-led hospital units where they can get powerful painkillers 
andsurgery. But midwives claim these over-protective men are unwittingly 
causing theirpartners to have unnecessary Caesarean sections and drugs by 
taking them tothese "baby factories". They say more women would have 
natural births if they used smallermidwife-run maternity units. The 
proportion of women choosing to have Caesareans has leapt from 6.2% to9% in 
the last 10 years with more than 4,600 women choosing to have themajor 
surgical procedure in 2004. Experts claim the increase in popularity is 
mainly due to the misconceptionthat Caesareans are a safer and pain-free 
option to traditional childbirth. But the abdominal surgery can leave 
mothers in pain for weeks afterwards andthey are prone to getting infections 
in their wound. The controversy surrounding Caesareans has led to tensions 
between midwivesand doctors over the best way of providing services to 
pregnant women. Earlier this year the Royal College of Midwives launched a 
campaign topromote "normality" in childbirth. Phyllis Winters, a 
midwifery team leader at Montrose Community MaternityUnit, believes the 
celebrity trend of opting for Caesareans has helpedcreate the myth that 
surgery is the easier option. But she believes squeamish husbands have also 
played a part in the declineof natural childbirth. She will present her 
claims at a conference organised by the NationalChildbirth Trust (NCT) and 
the Royal College of Midwives in Dunfermline,Fife, on Thursday. Winters 
said: "A lot of couples take decisions about childbirth together andmen in 
particular feel wary about childbirth. "They are frightened about seeing 
their partner in pain and about what cango wrong. As a result they often 
prefer to go to the consultant led unitwhere they perceive there is a higher 
level of care. "Unfortunately there is also a higher level of intervention 
when it is notneeded. In Montrose less than 8% of the births we deal with at 
themidwife-led unit get transported to the specialist unit due to 
complications"Women need more positive role models to have natural 
births and perhapsthen we will see a change in the way society views what is 
a natural lifeevent. "Men also have to understand that by going to a 
midwife-led service they arenot taking a risk." Currently just 63% of 
all babies born in Scotland are delivered naturally,but midwives claim the 
vast majority of births using Caesarean sections andinduction should be 
allowed to happen naturally. Patricia Purton, director of the Royal College 
of Midwives Scotland, agreedthat fathers-to-be played a significant role in 
helping women choose theirmethod of birth. She added: "I would go 
further, as a lot of women's mothers have only everexperienced consultant 
led services and so that has become the norm as faras they are concerned. 
"The problem is that often in large hospitals, childbirth is made to 
fitaround the service rather than letting nature take its course and 
fittingthe service around the labour." A survey of 800 new fathers 
carried out four years ago by parental supportgroup Fathers Direct and the 
NCT revealed many of the anxieties faced by newfathers when their partners 
give birth. It found nearly a third of men felt powerless during the 
childbirth processwhile most said it was difficult to see their partners in 
pain and beingunable to help. A third also said that they felt ill-informed 
about thechoices couples faced during pregnancy. It said that many men 
wanted a more active role in the delivery process Shona Gore, an antenatal 
tutor with the NCT, said: "Men are often pushedinto the role of the 
protector during a pregnancy and it is only naturalthat they want the best 
for their partners. "At the start of my courses almost all of the men want 
to go down theconsultant led route as it appears to be the safer option, but 
one of theaims of our classes is to give couples time to reflect on the 
decisions theyface. "There is a culture in this country that hospital is 
the safest place to be,but this attitude is now slowly changing, 
particularly with fears about MRSA" But Jack O'Sullivan, from Fathers' 
Direct, said it was unfair to blame highCaesarean rates on men. He said: 
"Fathers play a vital role in the decision-making process ofchildbirth and 
they are naturally concerned about their partners' wellbeing."But often 
they are relying too much on their 

[ozmidwifery] Australian Breastfeeding Association

2005-10-13 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright




Hello, everyone,

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Officer for the ustralian Breastfeeding Association. Applications close on 
October 28th 2005. If the attachment has been stripped from the 
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forthe advertisement andposition 
description, please see our website www.breastfeeding.asn.au

Please feel free to forward this circulate this 
e-mail through your networks.

Warm Regards,

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8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association
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RE: [ozmidwifery] How babies come into the world

2005-10-13 Thread Mary Murphy
Hi Alice I have that book somewhere in my collection, just can't put my
hands on it at the moment.  I changed the drawings so that the mother was
not so helpless looking and the doctor changed into a midwife.  It was fun
to change things to suit my purposes.  MM


Oops.would help if I posted the link

http://www.livejournal.com/users/freeparking/76684.html#cutid1


Thought this might give people a laugh. Shame about the lack of a midwife, 
but worth a laugh. :)

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RE: [ozmidwifery] Convenience

2005-10-13 Thread Sally Westbury








An you can send a puppy to boarding kennel so you can have a holiday



Sally Westbury

Homebirth Midwife

Learn from
mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look for
wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find it.

 Lois Wilson










RE: [ozmidwifery] Convenience

2005-10-13 Thread Megan Larry



We just had a holiday, left our dog at home, took the kids 
(of course).
She ran away in a storm the first night and we worried 
about her til she was found 3 days later, safe but tired.

Not sure its any easier? :-)

Megan


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally 
WestburySent: Friday, 14 October 2005 8:33 AMTo: 
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 
Convenience


An you can send a puppy 
to boarding kennel so you can have a holiday

Sally 
Westbury
Homebirth 
Midwife
"Learn 
from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look for 
wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find 
it."
 
Lois 
Wilson



RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








Here are the details of the woman looking
for a pool, anyone?



Hi Kelly,



thankyou for your offer of
more information.



We live in a small town in South Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The nearest major
towns are Leongatha (where the hospital we have chosen is), Korumburra and
Wonthaggi, not too far away is Phillip
 Island. The closest
bigger towns are Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire
a pool from one of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the
better I guess.



Our EDD is April 19th 2006
so we have lots of time to plan.



If you need any more
information please let me know and thanks again for your help.



Vanessa





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth
 Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
9:05 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth
Pool Hire





The Midwifery  Natural Childbirth
Centre at 336 Oxford St
Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
We have 5. MM











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
12:14 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool
Hire





Hello everyone,



Im just wondering if everyone could please let me
know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop it
in my waterbirth article I have too.



There is someone asking about Victoria at the moment but I would love to
put together a list for all states J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 










RE: [ozmidwifery] Convenience

2005-10-13 Thread Ken WArd



And 
you don't have to take it shopping

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sally 
  WestburySent: Friday, 14 October 2005 9:03 AMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] 
  Convenience
  
  An you can send a puppy 
  to boarding kennel so you can have a holiday
  
  Sally 
  Westbury
  Homebirth 
  Midwife
  "Learn 
  from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to tell. Look 
  for wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where you'll find 
  it."
   
  Lois 
  Wilson
  


RE: [ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections? I don't think so

2005-10-13 Thread Ken WArd



I have 
given women drugs in labour at their partners demand. Also epidurals and c/s 
organised because the partner wasn't coping. It is devesting when a woman is 
labouring well, and her partner, or sometimes her mother, isn't coping and 
undermines the woman's confidence in her body. I have often felt like giving him 
the drugs. One feels hopeless and helpless when adverse comments and stressed 
support people influence the woman. And lets face it, in the hospital setting 
who has the strongest and personal relationship, and therefore more likely to 
influence ?

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Gloria 
  LemaySent: Friday, 14 October 2005 5:59 AMTo: 
  Undisclosed-Recipient:;@uniserve.com;;;Subject: [ozmidwifery] 
  Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections? I don't think 
  so
  This is a group that no one has thought to blame 
  the high cesarean rate on. Hmm. Gloria
  
  
  Scotland on Sunday - October 2, 
  2005Squeamish men pushing wives towards Caesareans 
  RICHARD GRAY HEALTH CORRESPONDENT FRETTING 
  fathers-to-be are fuelling Scotland's soaring Caesarean sectionrate 
  because they do not like to see their pregnant partners in pain,midwives 
  have warned. They claim many worried husbands are afraid of the mess and 
  noise thataccompanies natural childbirth.  Instead they are 
  encouraging their wives to give birth at largeconsultant-led hospital 
  units where they can get powerful painkillers andsurgery. But midwives 
  claim these over-protective men are unwittingly causing theirpartners to 
  have unnecessary Caesarean sections and drugs by taking them tothese "baby 
  factories". They say more women would have natural births if they used 
  smallermidwife-run maternity units. The proportion of women choosing 
  to have Caesareans has leapt from 6.2% to9% in the last 10 years with more 
  than 4,600 women choosing to have themajor surgical procedure in 2004. 
  Experts claim the increase in popularity is mainly due to the 
  misconceptionthat Caesareans are a safer and pain-free option to 
  traditional childbirth. But the abdominal surgery can leave mothers in 
  pain for weeks afterwards andthey are prone to getting infections in their 
  wound. The controversy surrounding Caesareans has led to tensions between 
  midwivesand doctors over the best way of providing services to pregnant 
  women. Earlier this year the Royal College of Midwives launched a campaign 
  topromote "normality" in childbirth. Phyllis Winters, a midwifery team 
  leader at Montrose Community MaternityUnit, believes the celebrity trend 
  of opting for Caesareans has helpedcreate the myth that surgery is the 
  easier option. But she believes squeamish husbands have also played a part 
  in the declineof natural childbirth. She will present her claims at a 
  conference organised by the NationalChildbirth Trust (NCT) and the Royal 
  College of Midwives in Dunfermline,Fife, on Thursday. Winters said: "A 
  lot of couples take decisions about childbirth together andmen in 
  particular feel wary about childbirth. "They are frightened about seeing 
  their partner in pain and about what cango wrong. As a result they often 
  prefer to go to the consultant led unitwhere they perceive there is a 
  higher level of care. "Unfortunately there is also a higher level of 
  intervention when it is notneeded. In Montrose less than 8% of the births 
  we deal with at themidwife-led unit get transported to the specialist unit 
  due to complications"Women need more positive role models to 
  have natural births and perhapsthen we will see a change in the way 
  society views what is a natural lifeevent. "Men also have to 
  understand that by going to a midwife-led service they arenot taking a 
  risk." Currently just 63% of all babies born in Scotland are delivered 
  naturally,but midwives claim the vast majority of births using Caesarean 
  sections andinduction should be allowed to happen naturally. Patricia 
  Purton, director of the Royal College of Midwives Scotland, agreedthat 
  fathers-to-be played a significant role in helping women choose 
  theirmethod of birth. She added: "I would go further, as a lot of 
  women's mothers have only everexperienced consultant led services and so 
  that has become the norm as faras they are concerned. "The problem is 
  that often in large hospitals, childbirth is made to fitaround the service 
  rather than letting nature take its course and fittingthe service around 
  the labour." A survey of 800 new fathers carried out four years ago by 
  parental supportgroup Fathers Direct and the NCT revealed many of the 
  anxieties faced by newfathers when their partners give birth. It found 
  nearly a third of men felt powerless during the childbirth processwhile 
  most said it was difficult to see their partners in pain and beingunable 
  to help. A third also said that they felt ill-informed about 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Janet Fraser



Doesn't the Gippsland birth 
support group have a pool?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:40 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  
  Here are the details 
  of the woman looking for a pool, anyone?
  
  Hi 
  Kelly,
  
  thankyou for your offer of 
  more information.
  
  We live in a small town in 
  South Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The 
  nearest major towns are Leongatha (where the hospital we have chosen is), 
  Korumburra and Wonthaggi, not too far away is Phillip Island. The closest bigger towns are 
  Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire a pool from one 
  of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the better I 
  guess.
  
  Our EDD is April 19th 2006 
  so we have lots of time to plan.
  
  If you need any more 
  information please let me know and thanks again for your 
  help.
  
  Vanessa
  
  
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions For 
  Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little Tikes 
  Specialists 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 9:05 
  PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  The Midwifery  
  Natural Childbirth Centre at 336 
  Oxford St Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have 
  5. MM
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
  BellyBellySent: Thursday, 13 
  October 2005 12:14 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I’m just wondering if everyone 
  could please let me know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where 
  they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop 
  it in my waterbirth article I have too.
  
  There is someone asking about 
  Victoria at 
  the moment but I would love to put together a list for all states 
  J
  Best Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle 
  Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little 
  Tikes Specialists 
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia

2005-10-13 Thread brendamanning



Hi Sally,
I have some details I'd 
like to add for the Peninsulabut no off list address.
Would you forward to me 
please ?
Thanks.

Brenda Manning http://www.themidwife.com.au

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  sally 
  tracy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:54 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres 
  in Australia
  thankyou everyone who has responded to 
  my messageif you would prefer to contact off the list - am happy 
  to do soi will be happy to compile a sort of directory at the end 
  of our little study..Sally T.sally tracy wrote:
  Dear allam trying to update a list of birth centres or places 
that the midwives and women refer to as birth centres...Denise H. 
made a list of models of midwifery care a few years ago and many of those 
are birth centresI'm wondering if there are any more birth centres 
that we havent got on the list - it would be useful to have a 
contact number beside each one because I would like to contact each 
birth centre in Australia over the next couple of monthsmany 
thanks Sally T.If you put the state , name of birth centre, and 
contact ...would be great 



Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Honey Acharya



You probably already know this, but I was at a 
birth recently where we used a good blow up baby paddling pool and it worked 
fine. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:40 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  
  Here are the details 
  of the woman looking for a pool, anyone?
  
  Hi 
  Kelly,
  
  thankyou for your offer of 
  more information.
  
  We live in a small town in 
  South Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The 
  nearest major towns are Leongatha (where the hospital we have chosen is), 
  Korumburra and Wonthaggi, not too far away is Phillip Island. The closest bigger towns are 
  Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire a pool from one 
  of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the better I 
  guess.
  
  Our EDD is April 19th 2006 
  so we have lots of time to plan.
  
  If you need any more 
  information please let me know and thanks again for your 
  help.
  
  Vanessa
  
  
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions For 
  Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little Tikes 
  Specialists 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 9:05 
  PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  The Midwifery  
  Natural Childbirth Centre at 336 
  Oxford St Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have 
  5. MM
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
  BellyBellySent: Thursday, 13 
  October 2005 12:14 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I’m just wondering if everyone 
  could please let me know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where 
  they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop 
  it in my waterbirth article I have too.
  
  There is someone asking about 
  Victoria at 
  the moment but I would love to put together a list for all states 
  J
  Best Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle 
  Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little 
  Tikes Specialists 
  


RE: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia

2005-10-13 Thread jo








If you double click on Sallys name at
the top of the email 



e.g From: sally tracy 



 her email address will come up.



jo









From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of brendamanning
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005
11:40 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth
centres in Australia







Hi Sally,





I have some
details I'd like to add for the Peninsulabut
no off list address.





Would you
forward to me please ?





Thanks.











Brenda Manning 
http://www.themidwife.com.au







- Original Message - 





From: sally tracy






To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Wednesday,
October 12, 2005 5:54 AM





Subject: Re:
[ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia









thankyou everyone who has responded to my
messageif you would prefer to contact off the list - am happy to do
so
i will be happy to compile a sort of directory at the end of our little
study..
Sally T.

sally tracy
wrote:



Dear all
am trying to update a list of birth centres or places that the midwives and
women refer to as birth centres...Denise H. made a list of models of
midwifery care a few years ago and many of those are birth centresI'm
wondering if there are any more birth centres that we havent got on the
list - it would be useful to have a contact number beside each
one because I would like to contact each birth centre in Australia over the
next couple of months
many thanks 
Sally T.
If you put the state , name of birth centre, and contact ...would be great 










Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread brendamanning



Kelly,

Does this client know 
that Wonthaggi Hospital has a lovely midwife led team there who do 
waterbirths?
Their team leader  I 
used to do homebirths here together  they are part of BAss Coast 
Health at Wonthahaggi. One of the MW on their team is having a homebirth herself 
shortly  is hiring Andrea Bilcliffs pool for it.

Waterbirths are my 
special area of interest !

Kind RegardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kelly @ 
  BellyBelly 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:40 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  
  Here are the details 
  of the woman looking for a pool, anyone?
  
  Hi 
  Kelly,
  
  thankyou for your offer of 
  more information.
  
  We live in a small town in 
  South Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The 
  nearest major towns are Leongatha (where the hospital we have chosen is), 
  Korumburra and Wonthaggi, not too far away is Phillip Island. The closest bigger towns are 
  Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire a pool from one 
  of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the better I 
  guess.
  
  Our EDD is April 19th 2006 
  so we have lots of time to plan.
  
  If you need any more 
  information please let me know and thanks again for your 
  help.
  
  Vanessa
  
  
  Best 
  Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions For 
  Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little Tikes 
  Specialists 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 9:05 
  PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  The Midwifery  
  Natural Childbirth Centre at 336 
  Oxford St Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have 
  5. MM
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
  BellyBellySent: Thursday, 13 
  October 2005 12:14 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I’m just wondering if everyone 
  could please let me know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where 
  they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop 
  it in my waterbirth article I have too.
  
  There is someone asking about 
  Victoria at 
  the moment but I would love to put together a list for all states 
  J
  Best Regards,Kelly 
  ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
  www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle 
  Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little 
  Tikes Specialists 
  


Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia

2005-10-13 Thread brendamanning



DOh !!
TY

Kind RegardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  jo 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:52 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] birth centres 
  in Australia
  
  
  If you double click 
  on Sally’s name at the top of the email 
  
  e.g From: sally 
  tracy 
  
  
  – her email address 
  will come up.
  
  jo
  
  
  
  
  From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of brendamanningSent: Friday, 14 October 2005 11:40 
  AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birth centres 
  in Australia
  
  
  Hi 
  Sally,
  
  I have 
  some details I'd like to add for the Peninsulabut no off list 
  address.
  
  Would 
  you forward to me please ?
  
  Thanks.
  
  
  
  Brenda Manning http://www.themidwife.com.au
  

- Original Message - 


From: sally 
tracy 

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 


Sent: 
Wednesday, October 12, 2005 5:54 AM

Subject: Re: 
[ozmidwifery] birth centres in Australia


thankyou everyone who has 
responded to my messageif you would prefer to contact off the 
list - am happy to do soi will be happy to compile a sort of 
directory at the end of our little study..Sally 
T.sally tracy wrote:
Dear allam 
trying to update a list of birth centres or places that the midwives and 
women refer to as birth centres...Denise H. made a list of models 
of midwifery care a few years ago and many of those are birth 
centresI'm wondering if there are any more birth centres that we 
havent got on the list - it would be useful to have a contact 
number beside each one because I would like to contact each birth 
centre in Australia over the next couple of monthsmany thanks 
Sally T.If you put the state , name of birth centre, and contact 
...would be great 



Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread brendamanning



woops !!

Accidental 
posting.many apologies, was meant to be private !!
Kind RegardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  brendamanning 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
  Hire
  
  Kelly,
  
  Does this client know 
  that Wonthaggi Hospital has a lovely midwife led team there who do 
  waterbirths?
  Their team leader  
  I used to do homebirths here together  they are part of BAss Coast 
  Health at Wonthahaggi. One of the MW on their team is having a homebirth 
  herself shortly  is hiring Andrea Bilcliffs pool for it.
  
  Waterbirths are my 
  special area of interest !
  
  Kind RegardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kelly @ 
BellyBelly 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:40 
AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
Hire


Here are the 
details of the woman looking for a pool, 
anyone?

Hi 
Kelly,

thankyou for your offer 
of more information.

We live in a small town 
in South Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The 
nearest major towns are Leongatha (where the hospital we have chosen is), 
Korumburra and Wonthaggi, not too far away is Phillip Island. The closest bigger towns are 
Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire a pool from 
one of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the better I 
guess.

Our EDD is April 19th 
2006 so we have lots of time to plan.

If you need any more 
information please let me know and thanks again for your 
help.

Vanessa


Best 
Regards,Kelly ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle Solutions 
For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little Tikes 
Specialists 





From: 
owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Thursday, 13 October 2005 9:05 
PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
Hire

The Midwifery  
Natural Childbirth Centre at 336 Oxford St Leederville W.A. Ph 08 
92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have 
5. MM





From: 
owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ 
BellyBellySent: Thursday, 
13 October 2005 12:14 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool 
Hire

Hello 
everyone,

I’m just wondering if everyone 
could please let me know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where 
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop 
it in my waterbirth article I have too.

There is someone asking about 
Victoria 
at the moment but I would love to put together a list for all states 
J
Best Regards,Kelly 
ZanteyDirector, www.bellybelly.com.au  
www.toys4tikes.com.auGentle 
Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  BabyAustralian Little 
Tikes Specialists 



RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool Hire

2005-10-13 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly








Yep - she said the pool there was small
and wanted a bigger one?



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth
 Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of brendamanning
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 1:56
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth
Pool Hire







Kelly,











Does this
client know that Wonthaggi
 Hospital has a lovely
midwife led team there who do waterbirths?





Their team
leader  I used to do homebirths here together  they are part of
BAss Coast Health at Wonthahaggi. One of the MW on their team is having a
homebirth herself shortly  is hiring Andrea Bilcliffs pool for it.











Waterbirths
are my special area of interest !











Kind Regards
Brenda Manning 
www.themidwife.com.au







- Original Message - 





From: Kelly @
BellyBelly 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Friday, October
14, 2005 10:40 AM





Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery]
Birth Pool Hire









Here are the details of the woman looking
for a pool, anyone?



Hi Kelly,



thankyou for your offer of more information.



We live in a small town in South
 Gippsland called Glen Alvie. The nearest major towns are Leongatha
(where the hospital we have chosen is), Korumburra and Wonthaggi, not too far
away is Phillip Island. The closest bigger towns are
Cranbourne and then Dandenong. I am hoping to be able to hire a pool from one
of those places, obviously the closer to the hospital the better I guess.



Our EDD is April 19th 2006 so we have lots of time
to plan.



If you need any more information please let me know
and thanks again for your help.



Vanessa





Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth
 Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
9:05 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth
Pool Hire





The Midwifery  Natural Childbirth
Centre at 336 Oxford St
Leederville W.A. Ph 08 92423330. email [EMAIL PROTECTED].
We have 5. MM











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2005
12:14 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth Pool
Hire





Hello everyone,



Im just wondering if everyone could please let me
know who hires out birth pools around Australia - women often ask where
they can hire them in my forums so I may as well put a list together and pop it
in my waterbirth article I have too.



There is someone asking about Victoria at the moment but I would love to
put together a list for all states J

Best
Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Director, www.bellybelly.com.au  www.toys4tikes.com.au
Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth  Baby
Australian Little Tikes Specialists 












RE: [ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections? I don't think so

2005-10-13 Thread wump fish
It is very frustrating when a woman is labouring really well and her birth 
partners are counter-acting her state of mind. Some get quite annoyed that 
you are not responding to her noises by giving her drugs to make her quiet 
and easier to watch. I have actually given a dad the entonox once during a 
waterbirth. The woman was coping fantastically and vocally during her 
contractions, relaxed in between. Every contraction he would freak out and 
ask me to help her, then hang his head in his hands. He was s stressed 
out and I couldn't talk him down. In the end I handed him the entonox and 
told him it would do him more good than her. It worked! He chilled out and 
we all had a good laugh about it. Probably highly unprofessional!

Rachel



From: Ken WArd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections?  I 
don't think so

Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 11:04:10 +1000

I have given women drugs in labour at their partners demand. Also epidurals
and c/s organised because the partner wasn't coping. It is devesting when a
woman is labouring well, and her partner, or sometimes her mother, isn't
coping and undermines the woman's confidence in her body. I have often felt
like giving him the drugs. One feels hopeless and helpless when adverse
comments and stressed support people influence the woman. And lets face it,
in the hospital setting who has the strongest and personal relationship, 
and

therefore more likely to influence ?
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gloria Lemay
  Sent: Friday, 14 October 2005 5:59 AM
  To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@uniserve.com;;;
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Scottish dads push wives toward C-sections? I 
don't

think so


  This is a group that no one has thought to blame the high cesarean rate
on.  Hmm.  Gloria



  Scotland on Sunday - October 2, 2005

  Squeamish men pushing wives towards Caesareans

  RICHARD GRAY
  HEALTH CORRESPONDENT


  FRETTING fathers-to-be are fuelling Scotland's soaring Caesarean section
  rate because they do not like to see their pregnant partners in pain,
  midwives have warned.
  They claim many worried husbands are afraid of the mess and noise that
  accompanies natural childbirth.
Instead they are encouraging their wives to give birth at large
  consultant-led hospital units where they can get powerful painkillers 
and

  surgery.
  But midwives claim these over-protective men are unwittingly causing 
their

  partners to have unnecessary Caesarean sections and drugs by taking them
to
  these baby factories.
  They say more women would have natural births if they used smaller
  midwife-run maternity units.
  The proportion of women choosing to have Caesareans has leapt from 6.2% 
to

  9% in the last 10 years with more than 4,600 women choosing to have the
  major surgical procedure in 2004.
  Experts claim the increase in popularity is mainly due to the
misconception
  that Caesareans are a safer and pain-free option to traditional
childbirth.
  But the abdominal surgery can leave mothers in pain for weeks afterwards
and
  they are prone to getting infections in their wound.
  The controversy surrounding Caesareans has led to tensions between
midwives
  and doctors over the best way of providing services to pregnant women.
  Earlier this year the Royal College of Midwives launched a campaign to
  promote normality in childbirth.
  Phyllis Winters, a midwifery team leader at Montrose Community Maternity
  Unit, believes the celebrity trend of opting for Caesareans has helped
  create the myth that surgery is the easier option.
  But she believes squeamish husbands have also played a part in the 
decline

  of natural childbirth.
  She will present her claims at a conference organised by the National
  Childbirth Trust (NCT) and the Royal College of Midwives in Dunfermline,
  Fife, on Thursday.
  Winters said: A lot of couples take decisions about childbirth together
and
  men in particular feel wary about childbirth.
  They are frightened about seeing their partner in pain and about what 
can

  go wrong. As a result they often prefer to go to the consultant led unit
  where they perceive there is a higher level of care.
  Unfortunately there is also a higher level of intervention when it is 
not

  needed. In Montrose less than 8% of the births we deal with at the
  midwife-led unit get transported to the specialist unit due to
complications

  Women need more positive role models to have natural births and perhaps
  then we will see a change in the way society views what is a natural 
life

  event.
  Men also have to understand that by going to a midwife-led service they
are
  not taking a risk.
  Currently just 63% of all babies born in Scotland are delivered 
naturally,

  but midwives claim the vast majority of births using Caesarean sections
and
  induction should be