RE: [ozmidwifery] question from Year 10 student

2005-11-09 Thread Vedrana Valčić
The fluid and equal pressure theory and the fetal circulatory system which is 
different to ours both sound logical to me. Other ideas occurred to me as well 
- if you look at the size of baby's head in comparison to the body, the 
proportion is so different than it is in an adult, all that extra blood which 
rushes to baby's head in theory is nowhere near extra blood which rushes to 
adult's head (in proportion). 
Also, even as an adult (who practises yoga for example :) ), you can do a 
headstand and stay in the position for a long time without problems.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:57 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] question from Year 10 student

I have searched through Maternal, Fetal and Neonatal Physiology 
(Blackburn  Loper) and cant find anything helpful
Andrea Q
On 08/11/2005, at 9:54 AM, wump fish wrote:

 This made me laugh. It is just the kind of question my son (year 9) 
 would come up with.

 I haven't even thought about it! I would go with the fluid and equal 
 pressure theory. Being upside down in water at an adult (try it) does 
 not result in the same pressure as being upside down outside water. 
 However, if we go with this theory - what happens when women rupture 
 their membranes. We know it has a variety of effects on labour and the 
 baby. But, does it also make it less comfortable for baby due to being 
 upside down? Just thinking aloud.

 I would love someone to find some evidence on this.

 Rachel


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 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:10:21 +1100

 I am involved in the CoreOf Life Program for Year 10 students.  It is 
 a fun and interactive program run over a double period and is about 
 the journey through pregnancy, labour birth and parenting.
 Last week when I was demonstrating positioning with doll  pelvis  
 one of the boys asked  how come the blood doesn't rush to the baby's 
 head like it does for us if we are upside down
 I didn't know the correct answer and said I would get back to him.
 It possibly is obvious but I have asked a few peers and no-one is 
 definite they have the correct answer.  I thought I would throw it 
 open to OzMidwifery for discussion.

 Linda

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[ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism

2005-11-09 Thread Emily

hi everyone
anyone know of any similar groups in australia? i liked their idea of handing out information at public places re breastfeeding laws and rights to increase awareness and acceptance. going in to workplaces to educate workers about rights for breastfeeding/expressing breaks and providing legal support for discrimination sounds great too.. how many australian employers would hire someone known to be breastfeeding who needed breaks every few hours? probably few and i think people would be too scared to ask . ideally i think we need to move towards more baby friendly workplaces where bubs go along with mum to work, like in most places in the world. but it sounds too extreme to even bring up in our current cultural climate of children and work life being so separate
do many of you have experience of working witha baby in tow? do the hb mw's take their babies to births at all?
love emilyjenndoula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism

2005-11-09 Thread Tania Smallwood








Hi Emily



The midwife I work with has a nearly 5
month old baby, hes been to about 8 births so far, the first one when he
was only 10 days old! The women who have booked with us have known from
the start that there will be a baby coming along, there has only been one that
thought that wouldnt be appropriate for her circumstances. Hes
slung by either Wendy or myself, breastfed on demand ( only by Wendy J) , and sleeps a lot on
peoples floors/couches/beds.



Hes never been a problem at a
birth, and because there are 2 of us working together, its easy to take
him away if hes a bit unsettled etc (not that this has happened yet, but
Im sure the time will come J)



So although I had my own doubts about
continuing working if I was to have another baby, Wendy and her little one have
proven to me that it can work!



Cheers



Tania



 











From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Emily
Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005
9:30 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo]
Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism









hi everyone





anyone know of any similar groups in australia? i liked their idea of
handing out information at public places re breastfeeding laws and rights to
increase awareness and acceptance. going in to workplaces to educate workers
about rights for breastfeeding/expressing breaks and providing legal support
for discrimination sounds great too.. how many australian employers would hire
someone known to be breastfeeding who needed breaks every few hours? probably
few and i think people would be too scared to ask . ideally i think we need to
move towards more baby friendly workplaces where bubs go along with mum to
work, like in most places in the world. but it sounds too extreme to even bring
up in our current cultural climate of children and work life being so separate





do many of you have experience of working witha baby in tow? do
the hb mw's take their babies to births at all?





love emily

jenndoula
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Run by a homebirthing Momma!!

Hi everyone! Below you'll find the complete text
of
our letter announcing our fundraiser and arrival
of
our new website www.hvlactivism.org. Even if you
don't
consider yourself a Lactivist I would
encourage you
to take a look at the artwork we have available.
There
are some beautiful mom, baby and grandparent
pictures
that you certainly don't have to be breastfeeding
to
love. And I know I want one for Christmas, you
could
also point your husbands our way for an excellent
gift
idea. If you have any questions and want to ask me
feel free to e-mail me directly.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
Kim

Hudson Valley Lactivism was founded a mere two
weeks
before the July 13th Nurse-In at the Poughkeepsie
Journal Building. Since then we have been continuing
on with our mission of breastfeeding ad! vocacy
and
education by distributing the laws regarding
nursing
in public, and information about the benefits of
breastfeeding. Now we want to move ahead with
projects
such as breastfeeding friendly gift bags for local
hospitals, a breastfeeding friendly business
directory, and supporting breastfeeding friendly
legislation. All of these plans to improve our
community will take support, and that is where you
come in. We are proud to announce the arrival of
our
new website, HVLactivism.org as a first step to
the
many exciting projects we have coming.
Hudson Valley Lactivism is now offering select
prints
by internationally known artist Shawn Dell Joyce.
Her
work, included in the Georges
Pompidou Center
in Paris
and the Museum
of Modern Art in New York, is available
signed with all proceeds going to promote
breastfeeding throughout our area. This offer is
only
available until December 1st, and all orders will
be
received by Chri! stmas. A signed print would make
a
wonderful gift for the mothers, grandmothers,
midwifes
and doulas in your life! For questions, pricing,
ordering information and how to make a donation,
please visit our website: www.hvlactivism.org and
click on the scrolling fundraiser banner.












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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism

2005-11-09 Thread Sue Cookson




Hi ,
I took each of my 4 children to births with me over many years. they
obviously didn't need to come once they were weaned but if i thought i
might be away for a fair while then the toddlers came too. i had some
problems with one of mine, my only boy, who seemed to not be able to
hang in so well, so he stopped coming along at about 8 months which did
add to my partner's workload (had to bring him to me a number of times
at long labours). i have very distinct memories of my babies sitting
watching, or sleeping, or once i had to leave my 12 month old at the
door as the house was a 'no food inside' place and she was chewing on a
biscuit. i used to work alone, so for some of the longer drives etc i
would take my sister or an older child as my support person. 
none of the families ever complained or asked me not to bring my
children ... tessa went to many births in this capacity em!!

sue

  
  hi everyone
  anyone know of any similar groups in australia? i liked their
idea of handing out information at public places re breastfeeding laws
and rights to increase awareness and acceptance. going in to workplaces
to educate workers about rights for breastfeeding/expressing breaks and
providing legal support for discrimination sounds great too.. how many
australian employers would hire someone known to be breastfeeding who
needed breaks every few hours? probably few and i think people would be
too scared to ask . ideally i think we need to move towards more baby
friendly workplaces where bubs go along with mum to work, like in most
places in the world. but it sounds too extreme to even bring up in our
current cultural climate of children and work life being so separate
  do many of you have experience of working witha baby in tow? do
the hb mw's take their babies to births at all?
  love emily
  
  
  
  
  






RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: [hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism

2005-11-09 Thread Julie Clarke








Hi

I also brought my baby to work as a
childbirth and parenting educator.. it was wonderful for everyone in the group
too.

Ryan was only about 6 weeks old when I
commenced teaching again after having him, so I would put him in his little
frazer chair and he would sit and look at everyone and the couples would sit
and watch him too, it was such a lovely experience for them all  I was
able to teach them lots about breastfeeding and how to read babies signals 
I am sure they learnt a lot about babies in the most effective way. It
was so funny to see their faces when he would do noisy poos  we had such
a lot of laughs and then of course when wed laugh hed startle so
we had to quieten down  it was all wonderful for their learning
experience. When he needed a nappy change I would call Geoff and he would come
and collect him and change him and then deliver him back again for another feed
 great for the Dads to see Geoffs involvement role modeled
for them - I should not have stopped having babies J 

Warm hug

Julie





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Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator

HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner

ACE Grad Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

NACE National Journal Editor

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

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Sylvania NSW 2224

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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
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On Behalf Of Sue Cookson
Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005
1:47 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:
[hbo] Check out Hudson Valley Lactivism





Hi ,
I took each of my 4 children to births with me over many years. they obviously
didn't need to come once they were weaned but if i thought i might be away for
a fair while then the toddlers came too. i had some problems with one of mine,
my only boy, who seemed to not be able to hang in so well, so he stopped coming
along at about 8 months which did add to my partner's workload (had to bring
him to me a number of times at long labours). i have very distinct memories of
my babies sitting watching, or sleeping, or once i had to leave my 12 month old
at the door as the house was a 'no food inside' place and she was chewing on a
biscuit. i used to work alone, so for some of the longer drives etc i would
take my sister or an older child as my support person. 
none of the families ever complained or asked me not to bring my children ...
tessa went to many births in this capacity em!!

sue







hi everyone





anyone know of any similar groups in australia? i
liked their idea of handing out information at public places re breastfeeding
laws and rights to increase awareness and acceptance. going in to workplaces to
educate workers about rights for breastfeeding/expressing breaks and providing
legal support for discrimination sounds great too.. how many australian
employers would hire someone known to be breastfeeding who needed breaks every
few hours? probably few and i think people would be too scared to ask . ideally
i think we need to move towards more baby friendly workplaces where bubs go
along with mum to work, like in most places in the world. but it sounds too
extreme to even bring up in our current cultural climate of children and work
life being so separate





do many of you have experience of working witha
baby in tow? do the hb mw's take their babies to births at all?





love emily


















[ozmidwifery] Family First

2005-11-09 Thread leanne wynne

Hi All,
Next Tuesday 15th November Steve Fielding, senator and leader of the Family 
First Party will be in Mildura. He has requested to meet with me and discuss 
Indigenous women's issues and related midwifery issues.
He is also speaking at a meeting at the Settlers Club on Tuesday evening. It 
would be great if we could get as many midwives there as possible to impress 
on him that half the voting public are women who have babies, who need 
midwives, who need Medicare Provider numbers and PI insurance. I have 
already forwarded to him the briefings which the ACMI drafted for Julia 
Gillard. I will also give him the motion which Aiden Ridgeway tabled in the 
Senate earlier in the year.
If anybody has any other documents they feel are pertinent and succinct 
please feel free to forward them to me.

Thanks
Leanne.

Leanne Wynne
Midwife in charge of Women's Business
Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Family First

2005-11-09 Thread Justine Caines
Dear Leanne


On our last Canberra roadshow we  briefed Sen Fielding (In September) so
this is really a good opportunity to show him that what we (Maternity
Coalition) have said is backed up by others in the community.  From our
experience with Julia Gillard it is good for those who belong to MC to
identify this and show their support.

For those non-members, please JOIN, support our work, because together we
can get there!

Leanne good work organising this and will send the briefing through to you
so you know what we said.

In solidarity

Justine


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[ozmidwifery] Thankyou re Strep B

2005-11-09 Thread Nicola Morley
Thankyou to everyone who sent me information, gave me suggestions etc on
Strep B, testing, options for treatment during labour etc. I will be
able to discuss it with the midwives with a bit of background knowledge
now, and have lots of ideas to run with if I do end up testing positve
again.

:)

Nicola Morley
Trainee Doula

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