RE: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?
Laurie Kobler at Integrity Dental in Dural and Baulkham Hills does the procedure - I think he is the one Di was referring to in her email. Monica Hogan at Westmead Hospital would be worth contacting for information and support. She was part of a research project into TT in the UK, and very nice as well! Contact me privately if you want her email address. Cheers, Cath Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:46 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip? Hi all, advice for a woman whose first baby had a severe tongue tie that was never diagnosed until way too late by which time bf had just not worked for her at all. She's pg again and looking for support just in case this one has TT as well but has been told she can't have it fixed straight after birth but has to go on a waiting list to get it done. This makes her pretty anxious after last time's hellish experience. She's in western Sydney. Any ideas? Much appreciated! J For home birth information go to: Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums. http://www.joyousbirth.info/ Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?
Yep was Laurie Kobler, just couldnt find where I had written it down? It may well have been Monica that I was thinking of in Sydney, it was someone who had been involved in a trial, if I brush the cobwebs away I may even remember more! Cheers Di - Original Message - From: A C Palmer To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip? Laurie Kobler at Integrity Dental in Dural and Baulkham Hills does the procedure - I think he is the one Di was referring to in her email. Monica Hogan at Westmead Hospital would be worth contacting for information and support. She was part of a research project into TT in the UK, and very nice as well! Contact me privately if you want her email address. Cheers, Cath Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet FraserSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:46 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip? Hi all, advice for a woman whose first baby had a severe tongue tie that was never diagnosed until way too late by which time bf had just not worked for her at all. She's pg again and looking for support just in case this one has TT as well but has been told she can't have it fixed straight after birth but has to go on a waiting list to get it done. This makes her pretty anxious after last time's hellish experience. She's in western Sydney. Any ideas? Much appreciated! J For home birth information go to:Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums.http://www.joyousbirth.info/Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?
Most ob's should be able to snip a TT in labour ward. Seen it done many times. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Thursday, 18 May 2006 2:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip? Hi, The Australian Breastfeeding Association stocks a very fabulous and informative short video on tongue tie made by the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne. http://www.lrc.asn.au/users/sales/category6_2.htm With a bit of research, she should be able to get the help she needs. Barb - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip? Hi all, advice for a woman whose first baby had a severe tongue tie that was never diagnosed until way too late by which time bf had just not worked for her at all. She's pg again and looking for support just in case this one has TT as well but has been told she can't have it fixed straight after birth but has to go on a waiting list to get it done. This makes her pretty anxious after last time's hellish experience. She's in western Sydney. Any ideas? Much appreciated! J For home birth information go to:Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums.http://www.joyousbirth.info/Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?
Yup, they snip other stuff 'willy-nilly' so why not a lil frenulum?JoOn 18/05/2006, at 5:57 PM, Ken Ward wrote:Most ob's should be able to snip a TT in labour ward. Seen it done many times.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Thursday, 18 May 2006 2:32 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?Hi, The Australian Breastfeeding Association stocks a very fabulous and informative short video on tongue tie made by the Royal Women's Hospital in Melbourne.http://www.lrc.asn.au/users/sales/category6_2.htm With a bit of research, she should be able to get the help she needs. Barb- Original Message -From: Janet FraserTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:46 PMSubject: [ozmidwifery] tongue tie snip?Hi all,advice for a woman whose first baby had a severe tongue tie that was never diagnosed until way too late by which time bf had just not worked for her at all. She's pg again and looking for support just in case this one has TT as well but has been told she can't have it fixed straight after birth but has to go on a waiting list to get it done. This makes her pretty anxious after last time's hellish experience.She's in western Sydney. Any ideas?Much appreciated!JFor home birth information go to:Joyous Birth Australian home birth network and forums.http://www.joyousbirth.info/Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of (natural, normal, unintervened) births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
Or is she trying to establish the percentage of births that are intervened with that actually genuinely NEEDED the intervention? That would be nigh on impossible to obtain honest statistics on... In terms of how many women actually get to birth without intervention, I know the Hospital figure is somewhere around 3 - 5%, but can't remember where the research substantiating that figure lies...anyone? A dismally small amount, in any case. - Original Message - From: Dean Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
Does the WHO have recommendations on the percentage of women that are likely need help? At 10:53 AM +0930 19/5/06, Dean Jo wrote: What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
WHO care in labour recommendations (there's quite a bit of reading involved from chapter to chapter):- http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/MSM_96_24/MSM_96_24_Chapter1.en.html - Original Message - From: Jo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Does the WHO have recommendations on the percentage of women that are likely need help? At 10:53 AM +0930 19/5/06, Dean Jo wrote: What she is asking is how many women actually get to birth without interventions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 8:47 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Surely if they are (natural, normal, unintervened) it means they don't' need medical assistance? What is the real question? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 7:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Natural Birth
The WHO recommend that the Caesarean rate should be no more than 10% in a population of healthy women (that is no, pre-existing medical conditions etc). They also recommend that inductions should be no more than 20%. Their assessment is that 80% of women can have a perfectly normal uncomplicated birth with no interventions at all. The reality is, if you include drugs for pain and oxytocics for 3rd stage, then my guess would be that fewer than 5% of women in a hospital settings (and maybe even less than that) have no interventions at all. In fact, the only ones to escape completely might be those who give birth in a birth centre, if they decline the oxytocics for 3rd stage. It's a bit sad, considering we are a healthy, robust population of women, on the whole. Andrea At 09:10 AM 19/05/2006, you wrote: Request from another list: Most specifically, I'm looking for what percentage of (natural, normal, unintervened) births actually need intervention/medical assistance. There's a tricky one! -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] the Baby Catcher
I bought myself Peggy Vincent's book the Baby Catcher for IMD and have just finished reading it. I laughed, I cried but most of all thought I was reading a book that could have been about me. I would encouraged everyone to read it. Thanks Andrea for putting it on the list for IMD Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] the Baby Catcher
where can u buy this book is it avaliable at dymocks ect - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] the Baby Catcher I bought myself Peggy Vincent's book the Baby Catcher for IMD and have just finished reading it. I laughed, I cried but most of all thought I was reading a book that could have been about me. I would encouraged everyone to read it. Thanks Andrea for putting it on the list for IMD Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] the Baby Catcher
I bought it from Birth International www.birthinternational.com.au On 19/05/2006, at 2:00 PM, sharon wrote: where can u buy this book is it avaliable at dymocks ect - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:24 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] the Baby Catcher I bought myself Peggy Vincent's book the Baby Catcher for IMD and have just finished reading it. I laughed, I cried but most of all thought I was reading a book that could have been about me. I would encouraged everyone to read it. Thanks Andrea for putting it on the list for IMD Andrea Quanchi -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
