Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep

2006-05-28 Thread safetsleep international

  pinky
this one goes way back, but wanted to tell you that i have been writing a 
'booklet' over some jinormous period of time...i have consulted very widely 
and would like some advice from you if possible at some convenient 
time.if you agree what is the best way to do this?

cheers
miriam
ps: some great new testimonials coming on to www.safetsleep.com   shortly
- Original Message - 
From: Pinky McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep



Hi Miriam,
I have done the tiki tour - impressed and would definitely like to mention 
safetsleep as an option in my book. I do appreciate all the work you are 
doing and can see some great uses for safetsleep but also have some 
questions:


1) I would be really concerned that some parents would use Safetsleep as a 
'restraint'. But I guess if that were the case, the same thinking would 
mean that they would not have grasped whatever gentle/ respectful info I 
had written in the first place so were still coming from a 'convenient 
baby' / baby as object to be trained mentality. ie  -I personally would 
hate to see such a product used to prevent a toddler from getting of of 
bed- I have read in at least one book and heard from a MB unit where the 
treatment for toddlers who dont stay in bed is to remove the lightbulb and 
lock the door - although I highly doubt you would approve of this either.


2) I am pleased to see that the babies in the letters on your site who had 
plagiocephaly also received physio -I have concerns that things like 
helmets on bubs only 'cosmetically' correct the symtoms (ie flat head) not 
the causes ie the underlying reasons for torticolus/ positional turns ( 
retained reflexes ? neurology ? tight muscles).   I know of several 
parents here who have had feeding difficulties with such bubs ( ie 
uncomfortable feeding from one side/ refusal on one side) who have been 
treated either by a cranial osteopath or a paediatric chiro and when this 
has been corrected, then these bubs are content to change sides etc (ie 
the problem is fixed not just the symptom - ie flat head).


My own youngest child is regularly treated by a chiro ( initially because 
of dyslexia which improved remarkably). At the first visit it was found 
that he still had some early reflexes present and the chiro commented - 
he would have had difficulty breastfeeding? My response was that as he 
was my 5th child he wouldnt have had any difficulties - whether this meant 
holding him upside down if necessary of course i didnt do any such thing 
but certainly would have compensated  for any difficulty by altering 
feeding positions rather than seeking a cause because at the time i wasnt 
aware that 'the cause' ie a neurological problem/ retained reflexes could 
be involved.


Incidentally, he didnt/ doesn't have a flat head - he coslept so would 
have been side sleeping / changing sides perfectly safely and naturally, 
anyway. (perhaps reinforcing my point that while symptoms can be 
corrected, this doesnt necessarily mean the child is 'fixed')


However, I do have to acknowledge that this isnt every parent's choice and 
also that sadly, infant sleep is fraught with fear -Im amazed by comments 
to the mother in the testimonial (on your site) by her plunket nurse re 
the danger of side sleeping - poor mums.


Are you in Australia or Auckland?
I will send the handouts.
Pinky

- Original Message - 
From: Safetsleep [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman



pinky
i hv a very keen interest to meet up with you at some stage..
.from what i have heard and read about you our philosophies are very 
similar. My background being mainly nursing, parenting, counselling, 
community work and   nearly 20 years facilitating positive parenting 
workshops ,confidence building for women, trust building, sexuality /drug 
and alcohol awareness and other educationaly empowering issues .
29 yrs ago for my eldest son, and since then  subsequent children, i 
happen to have designed a special sleepwrap which allows all natural 
movement depending on the age and stage of the baby, except those 
movements which could cause harm eg creeping and postional asphyxia, 
standing, climbing , falling, rolling off beds,helping to prevent and 
correct positional plagiocephaly (flat/deformed heads) and seems to 
provde a sence of security with minimal restriction ( far less even than 
total swaddling)...mothers report babies sleeping better/longer/more 
peacefullyand for them a huge feeling of peace of mind
13 years ago initial trials spanned 6 months, involved over 300 babies, 
600 parents and 15 clinicians from various fields within the medical 
profession (no mean feat as you will all know)
since then consistent 20-25% of all first-time babies in nz are 
reached...several countries 

RE: [ozmidwifery] weight loss

2006-05-28 Thread Nancy San Martin








Have you considered getting results from
NBST asap? Sounds like a metabolic disorder  cystic fibrosis?











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:44
PM
To: midwifery list
Subject: [ozmidwifery] weight loss







Dear wise women





I have been following a client on early discharge whose baby
is losing weight. Now about 2 weeks old, I readmitted her on day 5 as bub was
lethargic, had not had a bowel movement and had lost weight. She expressed, fed
and topped up, bub 'woke up' and put on weight, started opening bowels and
generally improved all round, went home again fully breast feeding, seems to
have plenty of milk, plenty of wet nappies but again - no poo's, and on last 2
visits had lost weight, 50g then another 40g. Has not regained birth weight yet
and does not seem satisfied despite frequent b/f. I will be seeing her
again tomorrow and am frankly puzzled by this scenario. She is on medication
herself for epilepsy (low dose Tegretol and another that I can't remember) and
has been taking Motilium to boost supply.





Any suggestions/comments?





TIA Sue





The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is
for good men to do nothing
Edmund Burke










Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-28 Thread Alesa Koziol
Hi Andrea
point taken -I was mindful of the copyright requests however..I
am sending this to the list again.

Originally posted on Friday with no feedback. Are there no others in the oz
community horrified by the idea of this devise? Do we not have enough
technology invading normal birth already? A timely reminder perhaps in light
of the current thread on CTG is that they too were introduced widely with
little research to validate their wide spread value yet have been grasped by
the legal community as an all seeing tool - a tool which now governs a lot
of 'normal' or 'routine' clinical practice.
My thoughts
Alesa

Alesa Koziol
Clinical Midwifery Educator
Melbourne

- Original Message - 
From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24,
2006)


 Hi Alesa,

 Perhaps next time, just cut and paste the relevant section - I find these
loo...ong bulletins impossible to wade through!
 However, I know Debby well and I've done workshops at her hospital.  They
have the only birth centre in Israel and are a terrific bunch of  strong
women and midwifery advocates.

 I am glad she has raised this issue. The thought of this technology is
truly awful and I am sure that women will not want to use it if  they are
fully informed. Reminds me of a gadget that was tested at  one of the UK's
biggest midwifery hospitals a few years ago: it was a huge belt that was
wrapped around the woman's tummy at the start of  second stage and then
inflated to push the baby down if the woman  couldn't push due to having
an epidural. You can imagine how the  midwives felt about having to be part
of the trials. As far as I  know, this particular gadget didn't make it to
the manufacturing  stage, so perhaps this one that Debby speaks of won't
either.

 Who dreams up these ideas?  Dare I say it - men, probably!

 Regards,

 Andrea

 MIDWIFERY TODAY E-NEWS
 A publication of Midwifery Today, Inc.
 Volume 8, Issue 11, May 24, 2006
 Postdates Pregnancies
 ~~
 A high tech company called Barnev (www.barnev.co.il/) is currently
manufacturing a product called a computerized labor monitoring system. This
product works by placing two clips with electrodes on a laboring woman's
cervix and a scalp electrode on the fetus and using ultrasound waves to
measure cervical dilation and height (descent) of the fetal head. I am aware
of this product because of clinical trials were held at the hospital with
which I am affiliated. In spite of the midwives' opposition to using this
mechanical device on women, we were not able to totally block its use
(although some changes were made in the informed consent, and many women did
not agree to participate due to midwives' explaining to them what was
involved). The trials were moved to other hospitals where the midwives were
not as vocal in their opposition, and now the company is promoting use in
Europe and the US. I understand that they have received or will be receiving
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval. The product is being promoted
as a means to assess women's progress in labor without a manual vaginal
examination.
I believe that this product takes advantage of and potentially harms women
and their babies in labor, all for the purpose of economically profiting a
biotech company. I believe that steps need to be taken at a higher level
regarding the ethical considerations.
How do E-News readers suggest that I carry on from here? Can you offer any
support/ideas? I feel that this issue is not only within the midwifery
realm, but takes advantage of women's rights and of women's bodies for
research purposes under the guise of medical treatment. You can contact me
at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Debby Gedal-Beer, CNM, MSc.
Coordinator of Women's Health and Midwifery Education
Sheba Academic School of Nursing
Tel Hashomer, Israel

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