RE: [ozmidwifery] Dr I Popov

2006-07-31 Thread carob








Thank-you, but he is older than 43 which
is what that dr popov would be. The Dr Im asking about looks to be in
his 50s at least. carob











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Monday, 31 July 2006 9:23 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dr I
Popov







Found this on google. MM

www.ncrc.ac.yu/onkoeng/cv/cv14.html











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of carob
Sent: Sunday, 30 July 2006 10:08
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Dr I Popov





Dear List,



I work in a Qld maternity
unit and we have recently had Dr Ivan Popov employed here. I am wondering if
anyone out there knows of his work history / experience etc. I have searched ++
and all I can find is that he is registered to practise OG in Qld.
Needless to say he is difficult if not impossible to ask these questions of. I
believe his medical training was in Belgrade.
Any information is appreciated and will be treated with confidentiality. You
can reply off list to  [EMAIL PROTECTED].
Thank you in anticipation. carob








RE: [ozmidwifery] Dr I Popov

2006-07-31 Thread B G
Title: Message



Hi I 
checked out the public access for Qld Medical registration Board. This should 
take you to the page. I will check out more as his listed address is c/- 
Caboolture Hospital. It is in the same district as me so I will do some asking 
around. Lots of trouble there at the moment.
Cheers 
Barb

http://www.healthregboards.qld.gov.au/PublicAccess

  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  carobSent: Monday, 31 July 2006 4:47 PMTo: 
  ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dr I 
  Popov
  
  Thank-you, but he is 
  older than 43 which is what that dr popov would be. The Dr Im asking about 
  looks to be in his 50s at least. carob
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Monday, 31 July 2006 9:23 
  AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Dr I 
  Popov
  
  
  Found this on google. 
  MM
  www.ncrc.ac.yu/onkoeng/cv/cv14.html
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
  On Behalf Of carobSent: Sunday, 30 July 2006 10:08 
  PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] Dr I 
  Popov
  
  Dear 
  List,
  
  I work in a Qld 
  maternity unit and we have recently had Dr Ivan Popov employed here. I am 
  wondering if anyone out there knows of his work history / experience etc. I 
  have searched ++ and all I can find is that he is registered to practise 
  OG in Qld. Needless to say he is difficult if not impossible to ask these 
  questions of. I believe his medical training was in Belgrade. Any information 
  is appreciated and will be treated with confidentiality. You can reply off 
  list to  [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thank 
  you in anticipation. 
carob


[ozmidwifery] Midwife in Blue Mountains

2006-07-31 Thread Natalie Dash
Hi everyone,
I have a client that desperately needs a midwife to support her at home in the Blue Mountains, NSWin November. There are several other women seeking a midwife also,as our local midwife is unavailable. If there are any independant or hospital midwives willing to assist these women, please contact me so I can pass on their details.

Much appreciated
Natalie Dash

Innate Birth
Childbirth Education  Birth Support
4757 2080, 0410 428307
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[ozmidwifery] Depressing article on breastfeeding in public in the US

2006-07-31 Thread Helen and Graham















 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14065706/page/2/


  
  
MSNBC.com


Eyeful of breast-feeding mom sparks outrage 
Magazine cover blasted by public squeamish over sight of 
nursing breast
The Associated 
Press

Updated: 8:33 p.m. ET July 27, 2006



NEW YORK - "I was 
SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one person wrote. 
"I immediately turned the magazine face down," wrote another. "Gross," said a 
third.
These readers 
weren't complaining about a sexually explicit cover, but rather one of a baby 
nursing, on a wholesome parenting magazine — yet another sign that Americans are 
squeamish over the sight of a nursing breast, even as breast-feeding itself 
gains greater support from the government and medical community.
Babytalk is a free 
magazine whose readership is overwhelmingly mothers of babies. Yet in a poll of 
more than 4,000 readers, a quarter of responses to the cover were negative, 
calling the photo — a baby and part of a woman's breast, in profile — 
inappropriate.
One mother who 
didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son 
seeing it.
"I shredded it," 
said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a 
breast — it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."
It's the same 
reason that Ash, 41, who nursed all three of her children, is cautious about 
breast-feeding in public — a subject of enormous debate among women, which has 
even spawned a new term: "lactivists," meaning those who advocate for a woman's 
right to nurse wherever she needs to.
"I'm totally 
supportive of it — I just don't like the flashing," she says. "I don't want my 
son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see."
Another mother, 
Kelly Wheatley, wrote Babytalk to applaud the cover, precisely because, she 
says, it helps educate people that breasts are more than sex objects. And yet 
Wheatley, 40, who's still nursing her 3-year-old daughter, rarely breast-feeds 
in public, partly because it's more comfortable in the car, and partly because 
her husband is uncomfortable with other men seeing her breast.
"Men are very 
visual," says Wheatley, 40, of Amarillo, Texas. "When they see a woman's breast, 
they see a breast — regardless of what it's being used for."
Babytalk editor 
Susan Kane says the mixed response to the cover clearly echoes the larger debate 
over breast-feeding in public. "There's a huge Puritanical streak in Americans," 
she says, "and there's a squeamishness about seeing a body part — even part of a 
body part."

"It's not like 
women are whipping them out with tassels on them!" she adds. "Mostly, they are 
trying to be discreet."
Kane says that 
since the August issue came out last week, the magazine has received more than 
700 letters — more than for any article in years.
"Gross, I am sick 
of seeing a baby attached to a boob," wrote Lauren, a mother of a 
4-month-old.
The evidence of 
public discomfort isn't just anecdotal. In a survey published in 2004 by the 
American Dietetic Association, less than half — 43 percent — of 3,719 
respondents said women should have the right to breast-feed in public 
places.
The debate rages at 
a time when the celebrity-mom phenomenon has made breast-feeding perhaps more 
public than ever. Gwyneth Paltrow, Brooke Shields, Kate Hudson and Kate 
Beckinsale are only a few of the stars who've talked openly about their nursing 
experiences.

The celeb factor 
has even brought a measure of chic to that unsexiest of garments: the nursing 
bra. Gwen Stefani can be seen on babyrazzi.com — a site with a self-explanatory name — sporting 
a leopard-print version from lingerie line Agent Provocateur. And none other 
than Angelina Jolie wore one proudly on the cover of People. (Katie Holmes, 
meanwhile, suffered a maternity wardrobe malfunction when cameras caught her, 
nursing bra open and peeking out of her shirt, while on the town with husband 
Tom Cruise.)
More seriously, the 
social and medical debate has intensified. The U.S. Department of Health and 
Human Services recently concluded a two-year breast-feeding awareness campaign 
including a TV ad — criticized as over-the-top even by some breast-feeding 
advocates — in which NOT breast-feeding was equated with the recklessness of a 
pregnant woman riding a mechanical bull.
There have been 
other measures to promote breast-feeding: in December, for example, 
Massachusetts banned hospitals from giving new mothers gift bags with free 
infant formula, a practice opponents said swayed some women away from 
nursing.
Most states now 
have laws guaranteeing the right to breast-feed where one chooses, and when a 
store or restaurant employee denies a woman that right, it has often resulted in 
public protests known as "nurse-ins": at a Starbucks in Miami, at Victoria's 
Secret stores in Racine, Wis. and Boston, and, last year, outside ABC 
headquarters in New York, when Barbara Walters made comments on "The View" seen 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Depressing article on breastfeeding in public in the US

2006-07-31 Thread Ceri Katrina
the website in the article has been temporarily disabled!  wonder if it was because of the breastfeeding/ bra content???

Katrina ;-)
~who proudly feed her 5 week old while out in public today


On 31/07/2006, at 5:04 PM, Helen and Graham wrote:

 c.gif> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14065706/page/2/ 
msnbc_ban.gif>  MSNBC.com
Eyeful of breast-feeding mom sparks outrage
Magazine cover blasted by public squeamish over sight of nursing breast
x-tad-smallerThe Associated Press/x-tad-smallerUpdated: 8:33 p.m. ET July 27, 2006

x-tad-smallerNEW YORK - I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine, one person wrote. I immediately turned the magazine face down, wrote another. Gross, said a third./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerThese readers weren't complaining about a sexually explicit cover, but rather one of a baby nursing, on a wholesome parenting magazine — yet another sign that Americans are squeamish over the sight of a nursing breast, even as breast-feeding itself gains greater support from the government and medical community./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerBabytalk is a free magazine whose readership is overwhelmingly mothers of babies. Yet in a poll of more than 4,000 readers, a quarter of responses to the cover were negative, calling the photo — a baby and part of a woman's breast, in profile — inappropriate./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerOne mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerI shredded it, said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. A breast is a breast — it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerIt's the same reason that Ash, 41, who nursed all three of her children, is cautious about breast-feeding in public — a subject of enormous debate among women, which has even spawned a new term: lactivists, meaning those who advocate for a woman's right to nurse wherever she needs to./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerI'm totally supportive of it — I just don't like the flashing, she says. I don't want my son or husband to accidentally see a breast they didn't want to see./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerAnother mother, Kelly Wheatley, wrote Babytalk to applaud the cover, precisely because, she says, it helps educate people that breasts are more than sex objects. And yet Wheatley, 40, who's still nursing her 3-year-old daughter, rarely breast-feeds in public, partly because it's more comfortable in the car, and partly because her husband is uncomfortable with other men seeing her breast./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerMen are very visual, says Wheatley, 40, of Amarillo, Texas. When they see a woman's breast, they see a breast — regardless of what it's being used for./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerBabytalk editor Susan Kane says the mixed response to the cover clearly echoes the larger debate over breast-feeding in public. There's a huge Puritanical streak in Americans, she says, and there's a squeamishness about seeing a body part — even part of a body part./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerIt's not like women are whipping them out with tassels on them! she adds. Mostly, they are trying to be discreet./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerKane says that since the August issue came out last week, the magazine has received more than 700 letters — more than for any article in years./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerGross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob, wrote Lauren, a mother of a 4-month-old./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerThe evidence of public discomfort isn't just anecdotal. In a survey published in 2004 by the American Dietetic Association, less than half — 43 percent — of 3,719 respondents said women should have the right to breast-feed in public places./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerThe debate rages at a time when the celebrity-mom phenomenon has made breast-feeding perhaps more public than ever. Gwyneth Paltrow, Brooke Shields, Kate Hudson and Kate Beckinsale are only a few of the stars who've talked openly about their nursing experiences./x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerThe celeb factor has even brought a measure of chic to that unsexiest of garments: the nursing bra. Gwen Stefani can be seen on /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerbabyrazzi.com/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller — a site with a self-explanatory name — sporting a leopard-print version from lingerie line Agent Provocateur. And none other than Angelina Jolie wore one proudly on the cover of People. (Katie Holmes, meanwhile, suffered a maternity wardrobe malfunction when cameras caught her, nursing bra open and peeking out of her shirt, while on the town with husband Tom Cruise.)/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerMore seriously, the social and medical debate has intensified. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services recently concluded a two-year breast-feeding awareness campaign including a TV ad — criticized as over-the-top even by some breast-feeding advocates — in which NOT breast-feeding was equated with the recklessness of a pregnant woman riding a mechanical 

[ozmidwifery] Quote of last week.

2006-07-31 Thread Mary Murphy








My apologies
if this is a repeat. 

We
midwives can do little about societal influence unless we get ourselves into
the media and say that birth can be normal and positive. Jenny Hall 










Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth, Trauma Personality

2006-07-31 Thread Heartlogic

And you may find this work amazing!

http://www.primal-page.com/birthart.htm

warmly, Carolyn

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Have just found these:
http://childbirthsolutions.com/articles/pregnancy/birthsoul/index.php

http://childbirthsolutions.com/articles/pregnancy/lifelong/index.php

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[ozmidwifery] World Breastfeeding Week - Breastmilk - nothing else comes close

2006-07-31 Thread Barbara Glare Chris Bright



Hi,

Welcome 
to World Breastfeeding Week. I have copied (below) The Australian 
Breastfeeding Association's press release. You can see other good stuff at 
the Australian Breastfeeding Association's website at www.breastfeeding.asn.au
If you live in Brisbane you may see breastfeeding ads on bus shelters - 
part of a collaborative project between QLD Health and the Australian 
Breastfeeding Association. In Victoria, Sadly, the next department of 
human services conference for Maternal and Child Health Nurses will be run by 
Wyeth! The Victorian Government seems totally oblivious that this is a 
breech of both the WHO code on the marketing of infant formulas and the APMAIF 
agreement

Have a good week. 

Barb

Breastmilk - Nothing else comes 
close
The 
Australian Breastfeeding Association joins people in over 120 countries around 
the world celebrating World Breastfeeding Week from 1-7 August. 


You can help! People around Australia and the world are reporting harmful 
marketing of artificial baby milk (infant formula) during World Breastfeeding 
Week. 

The World Alliance for 
Breastfeeding Action (WABA) is the organisation that runs World 
Breastfeeding Week. In 2006 they are highlighting that it is 25 years since the 
start of the 'WHO Code', which is the World Health Organization International 
Code of Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes. 

The Australian Breastfeeding Association is following a similar theme for 
World Breastfeeding Week, 'Breastmilk - Nothing Else Comes Close'. We want to 
educate parents, health professionals, government bodies and the public that 
artificial baby milk (infant formula) is a health risk to infants and that its 
marketing should be controlled. 

According to the National Health and Medical Research Council there is 
considerable evidence to suggest that mothers' infant feeding choices are 
strongly influenced by advertising. 

The Association believes information and education about infant feeding 
should be provided by medical advisors and not by those with commercial interest 
in women weaning their babies from breastfeeding. 

Twenty five years ago the World Health 
Organization recognised that one of the biggest barriers to breastfeeding is 
persuasive marketing by infant formula manufacturers that gives mothers the 
impression that infant formula is as good or nearly as good for babies as 
breastmilk. 

In response, member nations, including Australia, developed and signed the 
International Code of Marketing of Breastmilk Substitutes, commonly called the 
'WHO 
Code'. 

What is the WHO Code?
It is an international set of rules designed to protect babies, parents and 
health professionals from harmful marketing of all breastmilk substitutes. More 
than 70 governments around the world have all or many of the code's provisions 
as law. 

Some of the main points of the code include: 

  no advertising of breastmilk substitutes 
  no free samples or free or low cost supplies 
  no promotion of products through healthcare facilities 
  not idealising artificial feeding on labels 
  no contact between infant formula marketers and mothers 

The code applies to both companies and governments. Although Australia was 
one of the original signatories of the Code, manufacturers and retailers in 
Australia continue to market effectively to parents. 
What are we doing in Australia?
At the moment Australia has not implemented the full WHO Code, despite 
being a signatory to it. 

In 1992 the Australian government implemented its own code called the 
'Marketing in Australia of Infant Formulas: Manufacturers and Importers (MAIF) 
Agreement', commonly called the MAIF 
Agreement. 

However, it is nowhere near as extensive or powerful as the WHO code in 
what it covers. 

For instance, it applies only to manufacturers and importers of infant 
formulas (retailers are excluded) and only covers infant formulas (not other 
milk products such a follow-on milk for toddlers, or feeding bottles and teats). 


The MAIF agreement is a voluntary agreement between the Australian 
Government and the Infant Formula Manufacturers Association of Australia and is 
not legally binding. Not all infant formula manufacturers have signed on to the 
MAIF agreement and there is no legal requirement for them to do so. 
What can I do to help?
Join people in 120 countries around the world who will be monitoring 
harmful marketing of infant formula in World Breastfeeding Week! 

The Australian Breastfeeding Association would like Australia to implement 
the WHO code in its entirety. We'd also like for it to be legally binding and 
for companies to have some meaningful penalty for breaching it. 

To do this we need to raise awareness of the risks of artificial feeding 
with the public and health professionals and lobby the government. 

Starting in World Breastfeeding Week you can help by: 

  Monitoring your area for harmful marketing practices. Visit supermarkets 
  and pharmacies, check magazines and 

[ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-07-31 Thread Gail McKenzie

Hi everybody,

For those of you who were at that wonderful homebirth conference in Geelong 
last month, you may recall Ina May warning us about women in the US whose 
uterus had been sutured in one single layer instead of two following 
caesareans and the problems this poses for future VBACs.  When I went onto 
PN ward, I told the staff about this  they laughed at me and were adamant 
that it would never happen here in Australia.  Our doctors are too well 
trained.  Guess what?  I've gone through the notes this week of caesars done 
last week  this.  Two of the women had their uteruses sutured in a single 
layer.  Can't happen here?   Just wanted to make you aware it certainly does 
and is.


Regards,  Gail


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Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-07-31 Thread Janet Fraser
Gail I've heard of it being sold to women as a great thing because it means
they'll be out of OT faster and in recovery with their babies. And yes, in
Australia. Of course once you go back to your surgeon and ask if you're
allowed (snort!) to attempt (more snorting!) a VBAC, you're not and hey
presto instant justification for the surgeon's more convenient path - ERC. I
believe in Europe however that single layer is common and yet their VBAC
rates are generally higher and UR not thought to be the big scary thing it
is here where misinformation is rife.
All food for thought, hey?!
J
- Original Message - 
From: Gail McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC


 Hi everybody,

 For those of you who were at that wonderful homebirth conference in
Geelong
 last month, you may recall Ina May warning us about women in the US whose
 uterus had been sutured in one single layer instead of two following
 caesareans and the problems this poses for future VBACs.  When I went onto
 PN ward, I told the staff about this  they laughed at me and were adamant
 that it would never happen here in Australia.  Our doctors are too well
 trained.  Guess what?  I've gone through the notes this week of caesars
done
 last week  this.  Two of the women had their uteruses sutured in a single
 layer.  Can't happen here?   Just wanted to make you aware it certainly
does
 and is.

 Regards,  Gail


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Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-07-31 Thread Synnes
I think perhaps this is another one that needs to be informed consent, the 
mother should be made aware of this before hand and should have the right to 
ask for it to be done properly. Instead of finding out next birth when its 
too late!!!


Amanda
- Original Message - 
From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC


Gail I've heard of it being sold to women as a great thing because it 
means

they'll be out of OT faster and in recovery with their babies. And yes, in
Australia. Of course once you go back to your surgeon and ask if you're
allowed (snort!) to attempt (more snorting!) a VBAC, you're not and 
hey
presto instant justification for the surgeon's more convenient path - ERC. 
I

believe in Europe however that single layer is common and yet their VBAC
rates are generally higher and UR not thought to be the big scary thing it
is here where misinformation is rife.
All food for thought, hey?!
J
- Original Message - 
From: Gail McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC



Hi everybody,

For those of you who were at that wonderful homebirth conference in

Geelong

last month, you may recall Ina May warning us about women in the US whose
uterus had been sutured in one single layer instead of two following
caesareans and the problems this poses for future VBACs.  When I went 
onto
PN ward, I told the staff about this  they laughed at me and were 
adamant

that it would never happen here in Australia.  Our doctors are too well
trained.  Guess what?  I've gone through the notes this week of caesars

done
last week  this.  Two of the women had their uteruses sutured in a 
single

layer.  Can't happen here?   Just wanted to make you aware it certainly

does

and is.

Regards,  Gail


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[ozmidwifery] Single layer closure of uterus

2006-07-31 Thread Helen and Graham



Sorry for cross posts...

Following the thread about single layer closures 
for LUSCS, I thought I would send thefollowingNICE guidelines 
-latest UKrecommendations.This was published in 
2004. 

Helen

http://www.nice.org.uk/download.aspx?o=cg013fullguideline
One- vs. two-layer closure of 
uterus
One-layer closure of the uterus at CS has been suggested as a 
means of decreasing operating
time with no associated or subsequent increase in morbidity. 
Current practice in the UK reports
that 96% of surgeons use a double layer closure and 3% a single 
layer.306 [evidence level 3]
A systematic review compares single versus two-layer suturing for 
closing the uterine incision at
CS.429 [evidence level 1a] Two RCTs were included in the review (n 
= 1006). These RCTs
measured different outcomes. One RCT (n = 906) analysed operating 
time and number of
haemostatic sutures.430 [evidence level 1b] The results showed a 
shorter mean operating time of
5.6 minutes (43.8 versus 47.5 minutes, p = 0.0003) and fewer 
haemostatic sutures in the one
layer closure group.
In the second RCT all the women had hysterography to determine 
integrity of the uterine scar 3
months after the CS in the first half of the menstrual cycle.431 
[evidence level 1b] In the control
group (two-layer closure) 82% of cases had either a major or minor 
scar deformity and in the
intervention group (one layer closure) scar deformity was lower 
(26%). The method of
randomisation in this RCT is unclear and the clinical significance 
of the hysterography findings
as an outcome measure is uncertain.
The two RCTs have been published after the systematic review. Both 
assessed operating time as
an outcome measure. One RCT (n = 188) found no difference in 
operating time432 [evidence
level 1b] and the other RCT (n = 200) found a decrease in 
operating time with single layer
closure of the uterus, the absolute difference was 12 minutes.433 
[evidence level 1b]
These four RCTs used slightly different methods of single layer 
closure, two RCTs describing the
use of continuous unlocked suture of the uterus, one RCT used 
continuous locked sutures while
another RCT used interrupted sutures. The two later RCTs both used 
vicryl suture material, one
of the earlier RCTs used chromic catgut and one RCT did not 
describe what suture material was
used. None of the RCTs directly compared locked versus unlocked 
sutures.
Concern about the use of single layer closure of the uterus and 
scar rupture in future pregnancies
have been raised by a cohort study (n = 2142) that reported an 
increase likelihood of uterine
rupture in women who had had a single layer closure of the uterus 
(OR 3.95, 95% CI 1.35 to
11.49).434 [evidence level 2b] Follow up of the women recruited in 
one of these RCTs has also
been reported.435 Of 164 subsequent births, 19 women had elective 
repeat CS and 145
experienced labour. Length of labour, mode of birth, incidence of 
uterine scar dehiscence and
other labour outcomes were not significantly different between 
those women who had had
previous one or two layer closure.435 [evidence level 2a] Closure 
of the uterus is currently being
studied in a large UK RCT (CAESAR).436
RECOMMENDATION
The effectiveness and safety of single layer closure of the 
uterine incision is uncertain.
Except within a research context the uterine incision should be 
sutured with two
layers.


Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2006-07-31 Thread Susan Cudlipp
I too have been checking notes since hearing Ina May's talk - our obs appear 
to still be using 2 layer closure, but best keep an eye on this.  Have you 
asked the surgeons who are doing the single layer why Gail?


I remember Ina May saying that there was also an increase in placenta 
accreta and percreta in subsequent pregnancies following single layer 
closure.

Sue

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do 
nothing

Edmund Burke
- Original Message - 
From: Gail McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:07 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] VBAC



Hi everybody,

For those of you who were at that wonderful homebirth conference in 
Geelong last month, you may recall Ina May warning us about women in the 
US whose uterus had been sutured in one single layer instead of two 
following caesareans and the problems this poses for future VBACs.  When I 
went onto PN ward, I told the staff about this  they laughed at me and 
were adamant that it would never happen here in Australia.  Our doctors 
are too well trained.  Guess what?  I've gone through the notes this week 
of caesars done last week  this.  Two of the women had their uteruses 
sutured in a single layer.  Can't happen here?   Just wanted to make you 
aware it certainly does and is.


Regards,  Gail


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