RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar
Isnt junes baby just the most perfect attachment? Good for showing women what they are aiming for. MM The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. May I go so far as to say it's the best EVER! Gorgeous photos. Perfect for promoting breastfeeding on any hospital wall. Perfect for your own home. Perfect for Christmas. Only $15 plus postage. Purchase from http://www.mothersdirect.com.au/ Regards, Barb Glare Mum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3 Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602 Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association Mothers Direct www.mothersdirect.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar
I agree Mary, my personal favourite is September, the look of absolute glee :-)Katrina On 19/10/2006, at 5:07 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: x-tad-smallerIsn’t june’s baby just the most perfect attachment? Good for showing women what they are aiming for. MM/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller /x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerThe Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. May I go so far as to say it's the best EVER! Gorgeous photos. Perfect for promoting breastfeeding on any hospital wall. Perfect for your own home. Perfect for Christmas./x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerOnly $15 plus postage. Purchase from /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smallerhttp://www.mothersdirect.com.au//x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerRegards,/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerBarb Glare/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller Mum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller[EMAIL PROTECTED]/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller**/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerPh (03) 5565 8602/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller Director, Australian Breastfeeding Association/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smaller Mothers Direct/x-tad-smaller x-tad-smallerwww.mothersdirect.com.au/x-tad-smaller
RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Thanks Lisa will start wading in the next few days. All these comments on the cord gases show we have a lot of knowledge, ideas and principles but we need to get organized and work together to implement sensible ideas practices and not all work on our own and not achieving anything. Christine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa Barrett Sent: 18 October 2006 22:31 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases Chritine, I think you'll find if you read the piece on the taking of gases has all the information in it. Including the fact that they think a larger study should be done as aciodois of 7.05 has no long term effects. It is worth wading through the whole thing. http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jmg/papers/brjog-94.pdf Lisa Barrett . -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonightQuestion so, whats the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth? Straight from the spunky vets mouthTHE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH Sighand we cant see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees Tania x -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonight…Question – “so, what’s the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth?” Straight from the spunky vet’s mouth…”THE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH” Sigh…and we can’t see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees… Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Why is it that animals birth alone and the common opinion for women is that they NEED support during birth? Vedrana From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Honey Acharya Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonightQuestion so, whats the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth? Straight from the spunky vets mouthTHE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH Sighand we cant see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees Tania x -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar
I've just had a look too, except with my 2yr oldson on my lap who has taken inspiration, followingwith a " I want some" as Mother produces a breast for him. lovely, Megan and Hugo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary MurphySent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar Isnt junes baby just the most perfect attachment? Good for showing women what they are aiming for. MM The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. May I go so far as to say it's the best EVER! Gorgeous photos. Perfect for promoting breastfeeding on any hospital wall. Perfect for your own home. Perfect for Christmas. Only $15 plus postage. Purchase from http://www.mothersdirect.com.au/ Regards, Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar
Hi, Thanks, Jackie, If anyone is coming to the ALCA conf in Melbourne next week, come and say hi. I will be at the Australian Breastfeeding stand - with heaps of calendars available Barb - Original Message - From: Jackie Kitschke To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar Barb, I completely agree. I have finally looked this up on the website. What a great selection of photos. I particularly love the older breastfeeding child looking at the camera as she feeds. That is how my little girl looks (my breasts hang a bit lower though!) when she has her "dawn-breaker" feed and any other feed she can get when I sit down. I'll be off to ABA soon to get one. Jackie - Original Message - From: Barbara Glare Chris Bright To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding Calendar The Australian Breastfeeding Association's 2007 Calendar is now available. May I go so far as to say it's the best EVER! Gorgeous photos. Perfect for promoting breastfeeding on any hospital wall. Perfect for your own home. Perfect for Christmas. Only $15 plus postage. Purchase from http://www.mothersdirect.com.au/ Regards, Barb GlareMum of Zac, 12, Daniel, 10, Cassie 7 Guan 3Counsellor, Warrnambool Vic[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Ph (03) 5565 8602Director, Australian Breastfeeding AssociationMothers Directwww.mothersdirect.com.au
RE: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
the show before was on caring for native animals and it had a little possum (I think) who was co-sleeping with its "Mum and Dad". very cute. Megan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tania SmallwoodSent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 6:41 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonightQuestion so, whats the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth? Straight from the spunky vets mouthTHE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH Sighand we cant see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
[ozmidwifery] CTG
This is the most recent review of the value of CTG. It is convincing and has the power of numbers, but no one take any notice of it. MM Continuous cardiotocography (CTG) as a form of electronic fetal monitoring (EFM) for fetal assessment during labour. Alfirevic Z, Devane D, Gyte GML This is a Cochrane review abstract and plain language summary, prepared and maintained by The Cochrane Collaboration. The full text of the review is available in The Cochrane Library (ISSN 1464-780X). The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2006 Issue 3 Copyright 2006 The Cochrane Collaboration. Published by John Wiley Sons, Ltd. Plain language summary: Authors' conclusions Continuous cardiotocography during labour is associated with a reduction in neonatal seizures, but no significant differences in cerebral palsy, infant mortality or other standard measures of neonatal well-being. However, continuous cardiotocography was associated with an increase in caesarean sections and instrumental vaginal births. The real challenge is how best to convey this uncertainty to women to enable them to make an informed choice without compromising the normality of labour.
RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
One problem with this research is the date. 1994. I am sure that it would not be viewed as valid for the battle we have with those in favour. Has anyone got anything really recent with sufficient power to be convincing? MM Thanks Lisa will start wading in the next few days. All these comments on the cord gases show we have a lot of knowledge, ideas and principles but we need to get organized and work together to implement sensible ideas practices and not all work on our own and not achieving anything. Christine blood gases Chritine, I think you'll find if you read the piece on the taking of gases has all the information in it. Including the fact that they think a larger study should be done as aciodois of 7.05 has no long term effects. It is worth wading through the whole thing. http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jmg/papers/brjog-94.pdf Lisa Barrett . -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary? The facts on storage was from a 2001 article. What is the window of research time that carries sufficient power? I'm sure there will be something. I'm happy to look if you give me exactly what you want. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases One problem with this research is the date. 1994. I am sure that it would not be viewed as valid for the battle we have with those in favour. Has anyone got anything really recent with sufficient power to be convincing? MM Thanks Lisa will start wading in the next few days. All these comments on the cord gases show we have a lot of knowledge, ideas and principles but we need to get organized and work together to implement sensible ideas practices and not all work on our own and not achieving anything. Christine blood gases Chritine, I think you'll find if you read the piece on the taking of gases has all the information in it. Including the fact that they think a larger study should be done as aciodois of 7.05 has no long term effects. It is worth wading through the whole thing. http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jmg/papers/brjog-94.pdf Lisa Barrett . -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
What you could do Mary is ask them what research they are using to back up the use of cord gases and see how long ago that was produced. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:23 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases One problem with this research is the date. 1994. I am sure that it would not be viewed as valid for the battle we have with those in favour. Has anyone got anything really recent with sufficient power to be convincing? MM Thanks Lisa will start wading in the next few days. All these comments on the cord gases show we have a lot of knowledge, ideas and principles but we need to get organized and work together to implement sensible ideas practices and not all work on our own and not achieving anything. Christine blood gases Chritine, I think you'll find if you read the piece on the taking of gases has all the information in it. Including the fact that they think a larger study should be done as aciodois of 7.05 has no long term effects. It is worth wading through the whole thing. http://www.cs.nott.ac.uk/~jmg/papers/brjog-94.pdf Lisa Barrett . -- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] CTG
We were actually discussing this on my website and I was wondering, as were some others, what the real figures are for infant seizures I have personally never heard of a woman around me who has been through that. Does it happen often at all? I just want to reassure them with some wise words J Best Regards, Kelly Zantey From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:55 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] CTG This is the most recent review of the value of CTG. It is convincing and has the power of numbers, but no one take any notice of it. MM Continuous cardiotocography (CTG) as a form of electronic fetal monitoring (EFM) for fetal assessment during labour. Alfirevic Z, Devane D, Gyte GML This is a Cochrane review abstract and plain language summary, prepared and maintained by The Cochrane Collaboration. The full text of the review is available in The Cochrane Library (ISSN 1464-780X). The Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2006 Issue 3 Copyright 2006 The Cochrane Collaboration. Published by John Wiley Sons, Ltd. Plain language summary: Authors' conclusions Continuous cardiotocography during labour is associated with a reduction in neonatal seizures, but no significant differences in cerebral palsy, infant mortality or other standard measures of neonatal well-being. However, continuous cardiotocography was associated with an increase in caesarean sections and instrumental vaginal births. The real challenge is how best to convey this uncertainty to women to enable them to make an informed choice without compromising the normality of labour.
Fw: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary? The facts on storage was from a 2001 article. What is the window of research time that carries sufficient power? I'm sure there will be something. I'm happy to look if you give me exactly what you want. Lisa Barrett -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but. Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby "milk" might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but . Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey
RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Sounds like the same one we were opposite at last years expo here in Adelaide Kelly and yes, they even have a cute cuddly bear that gives out the freebies to the kiddiesperhaps you need to organize a breastfest sit in for an hour a day, get all the mums you can to gather around and sit on the floor and feed their babies, letting everyone know whats really important when it comes to nutrition! Put signs up on the back of toilet doors, give out handouts, youll be surprised by how many women will gather around for something thats specified to happen at a certain time! Good luck Tania From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 9:22 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but. Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Arethe formula companies really giving infant FORUMULA samples to pregnant women here? Are they breeching the WHO Code so blatantly here? I thought it was fairly well regulated - unlike many other countries. If it does happen at the Expo, you should report them to the ABA for further action. Unfortunately they have free reign with that toddler milk crap in a can/drink dispensing machine whatever. Jayne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby "milk" might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but . Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey
RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Apparently I was right, someone just confirmed to me that not only do they dispense drinks for samples but you can also give them your babys bottle and they will fill it for you. GRR!!! *deep breath* Surely this cant be right it seems to be the toddler milk they are pushing with the signwriting but they do have tins on display too. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator,BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby BellyBelly Birth Support From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jesse/jayne Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:36 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Arethe formula companies really giving infant FORUMULA samples to pregnant women here? Are they breeching the WHO Code so blatantly here? I thought it was fairly well regulated - unlike many other countries. If it does happen at the Expo, you should report them to the ABA for further action. Unfortunately they have free reign with that toddler milk crap in a can/drink dispensing machine whatever. Jayne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby milk might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but. Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey
[ozmidwifery] medication question
Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
RE: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Note he said "...people try and interfere TOO MUCH." not just interfere. I think you'll find vets are getting as interfering as doctors. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Honey AcharyaSent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 7:18 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonight…Question – “so, what’s the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth?” Straight from the spunky vet’s mouth…”THE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH” Sigh…and we can’t see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees… Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary? Lisa, the usual window, especially when technology and machines is concerned is 5 yrs. Sometimes older research is used when there are multiple research papers over a long period of time, like in newborn jaundice. What you could do Mary is ask them what research they are using to back up the use of cord gases and see how long ago that was produced. I have never collected a cord sample for gasses as I only practice in homebirth. I guess we could look up the protocols for taking the cord blood and see what the references. Could someone who works in a hospital do that for us please? MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Title: Message One reason comes to my mind: because the whole culture tends to uphold the glory of doing things and being active. Doing and activity is a virtue, everything else is perceived as passive (female?), non-virtue. Saradadevii -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vedrana ValèiæSent: 19 October 2006 10:33To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... Why is it that animals birth alone and the common opinion for women is that they NEED support during birth? Vedrana From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Honey AcharyaSent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:18 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonightQuestion so, whats the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth? Straight from the spunky vets mouthTHE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH Sighand we cant see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006
RE: [ozmidwifery] medication question
I am a final year mid student. This week we had the chief pharmacist from the Adelaide WCH attend to discuss drugs in pregnancy breastfeeding. He said MIMS and drug company info is often unhelpful, and misleading. They have a number anyone can call for information, and they strongly encourage people (inc consumers, midwives, doctors) to call re meds during pregnancy, breastfeeding and meds for children. He was awesomely helpful, and Id give them a call. Service is Medicines and Drug Information Centre, open M-F 9-5 (Adelaide time), 08 8161 7222 Kate From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:47 PM To: midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] medication question Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
HI, They won't have free rein if we all (mothers and health professionals COMPLAIN) It amazes me that amidst the ocean of media report about healthy eating and obesity, the importance of breastfeeding is ignored, or ridiculed on television as it was on "Sunrise" yesterday morning (and probably will be on 60 minutes on the weekend) or crucified like it was on "Life at One" last week. The media needs to lift it's act, and they will only do so when they get the message from US. Yesterday morning "Sunrise" did an article on David Suzuki, talking about in 1992 more than 1/2 of the world's scientific Nobel Laureats wrote an open letter warning of the damage to the enviromnment. No media outlet in the world ran the story. Then Sunrise spoke about a poll they were running. Breast v. bottle, and the announcer tut-tutting about how breastfeeding was a personal choice and women shouldn't be judgemental of each other. Excuse me! they had just set it up! Breastfeeding is not a choice like wearing your blue top or your red top tonight. And getting information to women and health professionals has nothing at all to do with guilt - the usual excuse used by the media to ( and promoted by the formula companies to ultimately promote their wares) Anyway, as to complaining Write to your member of Parliament asking him to write to/forward on the material you send to Tony Abbott, Minister for Health. This way you kill 2 birds with the one stone. You educate your local MP and Let Tony Abbott know that health professionals and mothers of Australia are NOT HAPPY Also, write to the APMAIF panel, enclosing any brochures etc that you have. Don't worry about whether it is technically a breech of the agreement. If it is enough to offend you as a mother or a health professional, send it in - let them know how you feel! APMAIF SecretariatDepartment of Health and AgeingMail Drop Point 15GPO Box 9848ACT 2601 While you are at it, you could complain to the Victorian Office of Children about their decision to keep having their Maternal and child health nurses educated by Wyeth. You could write to the CEO Gill Callister [EMAIL PROTECTED] And send a copy to Minister Sheryl Garbutt at the same time. Warm Regards, Barb - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Arethe formula companies really giving infant FORUMULA samples to pregnant women here? Are they breeching the WHO Code so blatantly here? I thought it was fairly well regulated - unlike many other countries. If it does happen at the Expo, you should report them to the ABA for further action. Unfortunately they have free reign with that toddler milk crap in a can/drink dispensing machine whatever. Jayne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby "milk" might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but . Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow Kelly Zantey
Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Mayby the norm should be Midwives not obstetricians as it is in many countries.rgds mikeOn 10/19/06, Honey Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonight…Question – "so, what's the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth?" Straight from the spunky vet's mouth…"THE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH" Sigh…and we can't see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees… Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006 -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_PhotographersNew Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
RE: [ozmidwifery] medication question
Kate I agree MIMs can be very unhelpful at times. Where I work in Mental Health, we currently have a mum admitted with a post-partum psychosis/mania. Bubs was born at 32 weeks and is in SCBU, and mum was expressing. We were discarding her milk after she gave it to us as she was taking olanzapine (an antipsychotic) and Sodium Valproate (a mood stabilizer). MIMs said that this was not safe for bubs, however, at mums insistence (she is a doctor), we accessed a brilliant little book called Medications in Breastfeeding, which showed that these 2 meds whilst were bad in pregnancy are safe in breastfeeding. SO now bub is receiving mums expressed milk if we had just relied on MIMs mum AND bub would have both missed out! Tiff J From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kate and/or Nick Sent: Friday, 20 October 2006 6:49 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] medication question I am a final year mid student. This week we had the chief pharmacist from the Adelaide WCH attend to discuss drugs in pregnancy breastfeeding. He said MIMS and drug company info is often unhelpful, and misleading. They have a number anyone can call for information, and they strongly encourage people (inc consumers, midwives, doctors) to call re meds during pregnancy, breastfeeding and meds for children. He was awesomely helpful, and Id give them a call. Service is Medicines and Drug Information Centre, open M-F 9-5 (Adelaide time), 08 8161 7222 Kate From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:47 PM To: midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] medication question Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth...
Wasa joke Iagree midwives should be the norm (i figue we all know that on this list) :) - Original Message - From: Mike Lindsay Kennedy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... Mayby the norm should be Midwives not obstetricians as it is in many countries.rgds mike On 10/19/06, Honey Acharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe we should start hiring Vets rather than Obstetricians as seems to be the norm in our culture right now ;) LOL at the thougth of telling them that you will be hiring your vet as your caregiver when booking in at the hospital. - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] risks for birth... My kids are watching the ABC pet show tonight…Question – "so, what's the greatest risk when your pet is giving birth?" Straight from the spunky vet's mouth…"THE THING THAT PUTS YOUR PET AT THE GREATEST RISK IS THAT PEOPLE TRY AND INTERFERE TOO MUCH" Sigh…and we can't see that fantastic wood for those dastardly trees… Tania x --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006-- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_PhotographersNew Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com "Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets." Unknown
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
Karicare! I felt so
angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they
are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the
stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear
plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those
ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around?
GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway.
The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me...
for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am
not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them
tomorrow
Kelly
Zantey
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Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
Hi Mary, I suppose you could be right about the technology.I am going to the WCH hospital today. I'll find out how old their machine is. I rang a hospital in Britian (I know it's not here but you have to workwith what you know sometimes) To find outwhen they replaced their machine. They have had the same on for 15 years, used differently over the years but not changed. IWould think you could successfully argue that the data is relevant if the technology is unchanged. -I had a quick scout around and couldn't find anything that interesting past the 2001 paper I already referenced. However it is all very boring to read through. It would be very interesting if someone out there at a hospital could find out how old the references for the protocols are. Do you mind me asking Mary, do you work in the government scheme in Perth or are you independent? Lisa Barrett
Re: [ozmidwifery] medication question
Sue try "medication and mothers milk" by Tom Hale, it should be in any maternity unit or Mothersafe 02 93826539 or 1800 647 848 ABA have a great booklet, very new and co written with PANDA about PND. It has a table of common medication groups and also a pro/con of feeding and meds. Thicker than their usual booklet, All for $5.00 Louise [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message--- From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Date: 10/19/06 23:29:48 To: midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] medication question Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
RE: [ozmidwifery] medication question
I understood Thomas Hales Medication and Mothers Milk was the bible when it came to meds and breastfeeding . Debbie Slater Perth, WA From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Kate and/or Nick Sent: Friday, 20 October 2006 4:49 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] medication question I am a final year mid student. This week we had the chief pharmacist from the Adelaide WCH attend to discuss drugs in pregnancy breastfeeding. He said MIMS and drug company info is often unhelpful, and misleading. They have a number anyone can call for information, and they strongly encourage people (inc consumers, midwives, doctors) to call re meds during pregnancy, breastfeeding and meds for children. He was awesomely helpful, and Id give them a call. Service is Medicines and Drug Information Centre, open M-F 9-5 (Adelaide time), 08 8161 7222 Kate From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:47 PM To: midwifery list Subject: [ozmidwifery] medication question Dear List-wives I have a new mum who normally takes Dexamphetamine for ADD (adult) and whose baby was quite growth retarded, probably as a result but no-one is saying that for sure. She has been off meds for a few weeks and is breast feeding her little bub, really wants to continue but is not doing too well off the meds and is getting quite scared of a repeat of PND that she had last time. Mimms wasn't greatly helpful apart from discouraging use in lactation and pregnancy - but as she had been using it in pregnancy anyway Do any of you have knowledge or experience of this med and effects in B/F? TIA Sue
Re: [ozmidwifery] medication question
Hi Tiff I have looked after a woman taking Olanzapine for Bi Polarrecently and she hasn't been able to breast feed, this information was gained through the WCH drug information service. She was changed from Sodium Valp to Olanzapine while pregnant due the the well known effects of the Sodium Valp on the baby. It was as well researched as we could make it. I worked in conjunction with the mental health service and the womens and Childrens. she had a fantastic homebirth and was gutted about the breast feeding. Who publishes the book on medications I would like to follow this up more closely. Thanks Lisa Barrett
[ozmidwifery] sonotrax doppler
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives
Hi at my hospital this is what happens and I assume that it also happens in other hospitals here in Adelaide. The midwives fills them in if they are at the birth then they are put into the front of the babys casenotes and given out when the mother leaves the hospital. If you give them to the mother after the birth straight away sometimes they are misplaced and they cannot be re issued, it's a legal thing I think., -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJG Sent: Friday, 20 October 2006 8:13 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives Hi all - am wanting to ask a silly question - when do you give out the birth registration forms and who fills them in? i.e. is this done by m/ws or ward clerks?? Thanks Lisa Feel free to pm me -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.5/483 - Release Date: 18/10/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] medications
We have a wonderful pharmacist here at the wch in Adelaide who will advise what is safe to use in pregnancy and during the breastfeeding term. All you need to do is call the pregnancy and drugs hotline which is listed in the phone book and as for their advice. Regards sharon
Re: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives
Hi Lisa, At our hospital the parents fill the birth reg papers out. The midwife fills in the centrelink declaration and the ward clerk puts together a pack for the parents but they need to fill it in. Regards, Meg. - Original Message - From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives Hi all - am wanting to ask a silly question - when do you give out the birth registration forms and who fills them in? i.e. is this done by m/ws or ward clerks?? Thanks Lisa Feel free to pm me -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.1816 (20061019) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
I work with the community Midwifery Program in Perth. Up until feb this year I also took private clients. MM Do you mind me asking Mary, do you work in the government scheme in Perth or are you independent? Lisa Barrett
Re: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives
the birth reg papers can and do get reissued in qldOn 10/20/06, meg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lisa,At our hospital the parents fill the birth reg papers out. The midwife fills in the centrelink declaration and the ward clerk puts together a pack forthe parents but they need to fill it in.Regards,Meg.- Original Message -From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:42 AMSubject: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives Hi all - am wanting toask a silly question - when do you give out the birth registration forms and who fills them in? i.e. is this done by m/wsor ward clerks?? Thanks Lisa Feel free to pm me -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.1816 (20061019) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.comLife is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
[ozmidwifery] was I need to vent!!! now WYETH???
While you are at it, you could complain to the Victorian Office of Children about their decision to keep having their Maternal and child health nurses educated by Wyeth. WTF? My jokes about MCHNs being sponsored by formula companies isn't a joke? Where can I learn more, Barb? Janet
Re: [ozmidwifery] cord blood gases
I can have a look at work this afternoon if it's not too chaotic.See what I come up with.JoOn 19/10/2006, at 10:06 PM, Mary Murphy wrote:"Has something significant changed in the last 12 years then Mary?" Lisa, the usual "window", especially when technology and machines is concerned is 5 yrs. Sometimes older research is used when there are multiple research papers over a long period of time, like in newborn jaundice."What you could do Mary is ask them what research they are using to back up the use of cord gases and see how long ago that was produced".I have never collected a cord sample for "gasses" as I only practice in homebirth. I guess we could look up the protocols for taking the cord blood and see what the references. Could someone who works in a hospital do that for us please? MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives
I was at a birth recently and after she had the baby the mother asked me about the paperwork and whether she could get a registration reissued. It turned out that she had never registered the previous child (now 4 years old) and had lost the papers! We were able to reissue the registration papers after we verified the birth in the register. I think she would have a fine to pay tho. LindsayOn 10/20/06, Mike Lindsay Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the birth reg papers can and do get reissued in qldOn 10/20/06, meg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lisa,At our hospital the parents fill the birth reg papers out. The midwife fills in the centrelink declaration and the ward clerk puts together a pack forthe parents but they need to fill it in.Regards,Meg.- Original Message -From: LJG [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSent: Friday, October 20, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Trivial ? For hosp midwives Hi all - am wanting toask a silly question - when do you give out the birth registration forms and who fills them in? i.e. is this done by m/wsor ward clerks?? Thanks Lisa Feel free to pm me -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. __ NOD32 1.1816 (20061019) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nz My Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_Photographers New Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.comLife is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown -- My photos online @ http://community.webshots.com/user/mike1962nzMy Group online @ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PSP_for_PhotographersNew Photo site@Mike - http://mikelinz.dotphoto.comLindsay - Http://likeminz.dotphoto.com Life is a sexually transmitted condition with 100% mortality and birth is as safe as it gets. Unknown
RE: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!!
What was said on "Life at 1"? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Glare Chris BrightSent: Friday, 20 October 2006 5:07 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! HI, They won't have free rein if we all (mothers and health professionals COMPLAIN) It amazes me that amidst the ocean of media report about healthy eating and obesity, the importance of breastfeeding is ignored, or ridiculed on television as it was on "Sunrise" yesterday morning (and probably will be on 60 minutes on the weekend) or crucified like it was on "Life at One" last week. The media needs to lift it's act, and they will only do so when they get the message from US. Yesterday morning "Sunrise" did an article on David Suzuki, talking about in 1992 more than 1/2 of the world's scientific Nobel Laureats wrote an open letter warning of the damage to the enviromnment. No media outlet in the world ran the story. Then Sunrise spoke about a poll they were running. Breast v. bottle, and the announcer tut-tutting about how breastfeeding was a personal choice and women shouldn't be judgemental of each other. Excuse me! they had just set it up! Breastfeeding is not a choice like wearing your blue top or your red top tonight. And getting information to women and health professionals has nothing at all to do with guilt - the usual excuse used by the media to ( and promoted by the formula companies to ultimately promote their wares) Anyway, as to complaining Write to your member of Parliament asking him to write to/forward on the material you send to Tony Abbott, Minister for Health. This way you kill 2 birds with the one stone. You educate your local MP and Let Tony Abbott know that health professionals and mothers of Australia are NOT HAPPY Also, write to the APMAIF panel, enclosing any brochures etc that you have. Don't worry about whether it is technically a breech of the agreement. If it is enough to offend you as a mother or a health professional, send it in - let them know how you feel! APMAIF SecretariatDepartment of Health and AgeingMail Drop Point 15GPO Box 9848ACT 2601 While you are at it, you could complain to the Victorian Office of Children about their decision to keep having their Maternal and child health nurses educated by Wyeth. You could write to the CEO Gill Callister [EMAIL PROTECTED] And send a copy to Minister Sheryl Garbutt at the same time. Warm Regards, Barb - Original Message - From: jesse/jayne To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Arethe formula companies really giving infant FORUMULA samples to pregnant women here? Are they breeching the WHO Code so blatantly here? I thought it was fairly well regulated - unlike many other countries. If it does happen at the Expo, you should report them to the ABA for further action. Unfortunately they have free reign with that toddler milk crap in a can/drink dispensing machine whatever. Jayne - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Writing a complaint letter about inappropriate advertising of artificial baby "milk" might help you channel this rage. I HATE those stalls with a passion. You know that expo is really the Prams'n'Formula Expo, don't you? You'll also see lots of drug companies giving unbiassed (snort) show bags to pregnant women and even better, FORMULA companies giving SAMPLES and show bags to PREGNANT WOMEN. How's that for totally unethical, hey?! J - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:51 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need to vent!!! Im going to be at the Melbourne Pregnancy, Babies and Childrens Expo in Melbourne starting tomorrow, and who else is my stand next to but. Karicare! I felt so angry the whole time setting up today - I have a really bad feeling they are going to be giving out toddler milk samples, ready to drink on the stand they have one of those drink dispensing machines with the clear plastic tops with a mixer inside it, you know like when you go to those ice-cream shops and they have slushies or juice in them swishing around? GrRRrrRrr! I hope I am wrong but they always hand out samples anyway. The marketing plastered all over the massive stand just infuriates me... for mums who nutrition is important to them! Its firing me up and I am not even there yet!!! I dont want to even look at them tomorrow
