[ozmidwifery] article FYI re insecticide pregnancy
This information can be found by going to http://emotional.healthcentersonline.com Insecticide affects infancy development HealthCentersOnline Dec 18 (HealthCentersOnline) - Women who are exposed to the insecticide chlorpyrifos during pregnancy are at increased risk of having babies with significantly poorer mental and motor development as well as behavioral problems during early childhood, according to a new study. The study was conducted by researchers from the Columbia Center for Children's Environmental Health at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Chlorpyrifos is an insecticide used for large-scale crops throughout the world, although it was banned for household pest control use in the United States in 2001. Previous research has shown that chlorpyrifos exposure in utero can affect birth weight and length. This study established a link between exposure to chlorpyrifos during pregnancy and developmental problems in the offspring of women who are exposed. This research is part of an ongoing study examining the effects of exposure of pregnant women and babies to indoor and outdoor air pollutants, pesticides and allergens. For this study, the research teams assessed the growth and development of about 250 infants from New York City who were born between 1998 and 2002. By their third birthdays, those children with the highest levels of chlorpyrifos at birth showed significantly lower levels of mental development and motors skills than children with lower exposure levels to the insecticide. The children with the most exposure also were more likely to show early signs of behavior and attention problems. These findings indicate that prenatal exposure to the insecticide chlorpyrifos not only increases the likelihood of developmental delays, but may have long-term consequences for social adjustment and academic achievement. Relatively speaking, the insecticide effects reported here are comparable to what has been seen with exposure to other neurotoxicants such as lead and tobacco smoke, Dr, Virginia Rauh, lead author and investigator of the study, said in a recent press release. The research appears in this month's issue of the journal Pediatrics. Copyright 2000-2006 HealthCentersOnline, Inc. Publish Date: December 18, 2006 Leanne Wynne Midwife in charge of Women's Business Mildura Aboriginal Health Service Mob 0418 371862 _ Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D23769_t=754951090_r=endtext_lavalife_dec_meet_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
I am doing a story on contraception for a pareting magazine. I want tostate that the WHO confirmed breastfeeding as 98 per cent effective means of birth controlfor the first six months provided the baby was fully breasfed and periods have not commenced. So as far as the 'fully' part goes, how is that interpreted. My friend thought she was fully breastfeeding, however, her twin boys were sleeping 8 hours at night and thus she became pregnant when they were four months old. So does fully mean no less than four-hourly feeds. Or should women just take added precautions if they are not up for any little surprises. thanks in advance Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
It's a complex list of stuff, not just bfing, that creates lactational ammenorhea, Kylie. Cosleeping, no dummies, no bottles of ebm, no being away from your child/ren longer than about 3 hours, and having a nap in the daytime with them among other things. And then ultimately each woman is different in her experience of menstruation recommencing. Women who use bfing in conjunction with knowing their own fertile signs are doubly covered and a barrier method now and then if one isn't sure has got to be a good thing, hey? J - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I am doing a story on contraception for a pareting magazine. I want to state that the WHO confirmed breastfeeding as 98 per cent effective means of birth control for the first six months provided the baby was fully breasfed and periods have not commenced. So as far as the 'fully' part goes, how is that interpreted. My friend thought she was fully breastfeeding, however, her twin boys were sleeping 8 hours at night and thus she became pregnant when they were four months old. So does fully mean no less than four-hourly feeds. Or should women just take added precautions if they are not up for any little surprises. thanks in advance Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
if one isn't sure has got to be a good thing, hey? Absolutely. thanks for that, Janet. Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 From: "Janet Fraser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraceptionDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:56:35 +1100 It's a complex list of stuff, not just bfing, that creates lactational ammenorhea, Kylie. Cosleeping, no dummies, no bottles of ebm, no being away from your child/ren longer than about 3 hours, and having a nap in the daytime with them among other things. And then ultimately each woman is different in her experience of menstruation recommencing. Women who use bfing in conjunction with knowing their own fertile signs are doubly covered and a barrier method now and then if one isn't sure has got to be a good thing, hey? J - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I am doing a story on contraception for a pareting magazine. I want tostate that the WHO confirmed breastfeeding as 98 per cent effective means of birth controlfor the first six months provided the baby was fully breasfed and periods have not commenced. So as far as the 'fully' part goes, how is that interpreted. My friend thought she was fully breastfeeding, however, her twin boys were sleeping 8 hours at night and thus she became pregnant when they were four months old. So does fully mean no less than four-hourly feeds. Or should women just take added precautions if they are not up for any little surprises. thanks in advance Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747-- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Haemorroids
Hi everyone, Just needing some help for a friend who is 36/40 with very painful haemorroids. Is there anything that can be done apart from symptomatic relief and not becoming constipated? And in your experience how painful do women find them when they are pushing? Thanks in advance Michelle Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Happy Christmas
merry christmas everyone! warm regards miriam and team - Original Message - From: Andrea Quanchi To: ozmidwifery Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Happy Christmas This was sent to me by a friend and as I say Happy Christmas to everyone on the list, Enjoy Andrea Q ? Went to Abigail's school Christmas concert (no proper Nativity this year?). Each class did a little something followed by a song or 2. Anyway, Ab's class did a Nativity scene, with Ab as Mary (?How proud was I?). A few mins into their bit Ab promptly lifted her dress shoved baby Jesus up it. The script then wandered away from what they'd learnt goes as follows Joseph: What are you doing? Mary: I'm feeding our baby Shepherd: Have you got a bottle up there then? Mary: Don't be silly he's having milk from my booby Joseph: That's disgusting Mary: No, that baby milk they have in Tescos is disgusting. My baby's having proper milk Shepherd: What's a booby? Mary: Those sticky out bits ladies have Shepherd: They're not boobies, they're nipples Mary: No they're not, they're boobies Joseph: So why can't Jesus have milk from a bottle then? Mary: Because I haven't got a breast pump with me - you forgot to put it on the donkey Shepherd: Can't you ask the teacher for a bottle to feed Jesus with? Mary: No because this is the best way to feed Jesus. Anyway bottles haven't been invented yet even if they were I've just had a baby so if you think I'm faffing about round Tescos to buy baby milk when I make proper milk in my boobies you can think again I felt a teeny bit sorry for their class teacher - she did try her best to steer them back towards their proper lines but she was laughing so much she didn't really stand a chance. The line about Joseph forgetting the breast pump finished her off - she slid to the floor couldn't get up for laughing ? unknown.gif Description: GIF image unknown.gif Description: GIF image
RE: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
I didn't have a period since falling pregnant with my 4.5 year old, until a few months ago. My mum thought something was seriously wrong with me and kept telling me to see the doctor, but because of infant-led breastfeeding, I knew it was why. I had some very, very light spotting one time when my first was a bit over 2 and had stopped feeding, so I wondered if I should try for my second. I knew I wanted to try, but I had no period prior to, so no idea what my cycle was, let alone if I was ovulating! So, I charted my temps for two weeks and fell pregnant. It was only a few months ago when I didn't feed my son overnight for a few nights that they came back with full force - not enjoying it very much as it hasn't settled down yet. But feel very blessed to not have to worry about it for 5 odd years!!! Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kylie Carberry Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:10 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I am doing a story on contraception for a pareting magazine. I want to state that the WHO confirmed breastfeeding as 98 per cent effective means of birth control for the first six months provided the baby was fully breasfed and periods have not commenced. So as far as the 'fully' part goes, how is that interpreted. My friend thought she was fully breastfeeding, however, her twin boys were sleeping 8 hours at night and thus she became pregnant when they were four months old. So does fully mean no less than four-hourly feeds. Or should women just take added precautions if they are not up for any little surprises. thanks in advance Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
Hi, I don't think Lactational Amenorrhea is as risky or tricky as Janet said. From Breastfeeding Management (Brodribb)In 1988 the World Health Organisation and other interested parties formulated a concensus statement about the conditions under which Lactation provides an effective and safe form of contraception. Known as the Bellagio Concensus, it states that if a woman is fully or nearly fully breastfeeding, is amenorrhoeic and is less than 6 mnths postpartum she is 98% protected from pregnancy. Since that time, studies in Australia, Chile, the Phillippines, Pakistan and the USA have confirmed this concensus, often showing failure rates of lower than the two percent quoted. Thus, this applies in the developed as well as developing countries and in well nourished women. A further conference in Bellagio in 1995 confirmed the original findings and concluded that. Wheras amenorrheoea is an absolute requirement for ensuring a low risk of pregnancy, it might be possible to relax or break the requirement of full or nearly full breastfeeding. It may also be possible to extend the duration of use beyond 6 mnths. Kylie, please don't write an article that makes breastfeeding as a form or contraception seem unreliable, silly or so difficult to comply with that it would be impossible to use. (not that it sounds in any way like you would - but that is the tone often in such articles.) While the 2% are very vocal when they become pregnant, my observances are that Lactational Amenhorrea is extremely reliable. The thing to remember is that once your period is back all bets are off. (if under 6 mnths.) While this whole story demonstrates that the plural of stories is not data I returned to full time work when my son was 6 weeks old, and remained amenhorreac until he was 15mths, whereupon I had one period and then got pregnant with my 2nd. Barb - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception if one isn't sure has got to be a good thing, hey? Absolutely. thanks for that, Janet. Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 From: Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:56:35 +1100 It's a complex list of stuff, not just bfing, that creates lactational ammenorhea, Kylie. Cosleeping, no dummies, no bottles of ebm, no being away from your child/ren longer than about 3 hours, and having a nap in the daytime with them among other things. And then ultimately each woman is different in her experience of menstruation recommencing. Women who use bfing in conjunction with knowing their own fertile signs are doubly covered and a barrier method now and then if one isn't sure has got to be a good thing, hey? J - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception I am doing a story on contraception for a pareting magazine. I want to state that the WHO confirmed breastfeeding as 98 per cent effective means of birth control for the first six months provided the baby was fully breasfed and periods have not commenced. So as far as the 'fully' part goes, how is that interpreted. My friend thought she was fully breastfeeding, however, her twin boys were sleeping 8 hours at night and thus she became pregnant when they were four months old. So does fully mean no less than four-hourly feeds. Or should women just take added precautions if they are not up for any little surprises. thanks in advance Kylie Carberry Freelance Journalist p: +61 2 42970115 m: +61 2 418220638 f: +61 2 42970747 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids
Tissue salts are really effective and available in most health food shops, topical witchazel is excellent too. J - Original Message - From: Michelle Windsor To: Ozmidwifery Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids Hi everyone, Just needing some help for a friend who is 36/40 with very painful haemorroids. Is there anything that can be done apart from symptomatic relief and not becoming constipated? And in your experience how painful do women find them when they are pushing? Thanks in advance Michelle Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Haemorroids
Michelle Windsor wrote: Hi everyone, Just needing some help for a friend who is 36/40 with very painful haemorroids. Is there anything that can be done apart from symptomatic relief and not becoming constipated? And in your experience how painful do women find them when they are pushing? Thanks in advance Michelle Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Witch hazel tincture, applied on a cotton ball to the affected area when going to bed, leave it there all night - the wet cotton ball that is (or as long as it stays there), should see big results in 2-3 days. cheers -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] breastfeeding as contraception
I don't think it's risky or tricky, or silly for that matter. I was trying to be thorough in my reply and not make sweeping statements. Recently one of my moderators did some research on achieving fertility again while breastfeeding so she came up with a list which could equally be applied to Kylie's article. Obviously LA works a treat if you look at cultures which pursue child-led weaning but western culture just doesn't and therein can lie the problems for many people. Most people don't understand anything about bf in the first place, as we all know ; ) Here's the list in case you're interested, Kylie. It was for a member with a 2 year old who'd like to ttc but hasn't bled in 2 years and with no signs of bfing slowing. It's a very mixed bag of refs but some great ones : ) * Feeding EBM by bottle (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:1ilEf4An7dMJ:www.bfmed.org/ace-files/protocol/finalcontraceptionprotocolsent2.pdf+lactational+am enorrhea+fertilityhl=engl=auct=clnkcd=30) * Supplementing feeds (formula or solids) * Increased use of pacifiers * Feeding on schedule instead of on demand * Increased intervals between feeds (4hrs during day, 6hrs at night) * Waiting until bub is 6mths or older * Reduce time at the breast during a feed (shorter feeds, no comfort sucking) * Reduce total time at the breast per day to 65 min or less (McNeilly AS, Glasier AF, Howie PW, Houston MJ, Cook A,Boyle H. Fertility after childbirth: pregnancy associated with breast feeding. Clin Endocrinol (Oxf). 1983 Aug;19(2):167-73., http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/faq/lam.html) * Reduce night time feeds (Heinig MJ, Nommsen-Rivers LA, Peerson JM, Dewey KG. Factors related to duration of postpartum amenorrhoea among USA women with prolonged lactation. J Biosoc Sci. 1994 Oct;26(4):517-27., http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/faq/lam.html) * Stop co-sleeping, including no naps with your child during the day (Kippley, Sheila. Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing: How Ecological Breastfeeding Spaces Babies. Cincinnati: Couple to Couple League International, 1999, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactational_Amenorrhea_Method) * Be separated from your child for more than 3 hours a day (Kippley, Sheila. Breastfeeding and Natural Child Spacing: How Ecological Breastfeeding Spaces Babies. Cincinnati: Couple to Couple League International, 1999, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactational_Amenorrhea_Method) And what if you're a co-sleeping, fully BFing, no pacifier, BF on demand mumma? How long will it be until your period returns? Average return of menses for women following all [...] criteria is 14 months, with some reports as soon as 2 months and others as late as 42 months. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactati...norrhea_Method Of course, once your period does return, continuing breastfeeding can still affect your chances of conception. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=7761906) Reference pages - very eclectic mix some ok, some good http://www.medela.com/NewFiles/faq/lam.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactati...norrhea_Method http://www.fhi.org/training/en/modul...references.htm (lots of references for articles on lactational amenorrhea, if you want to do more research) http://www.fhi.org/training/en/modul...getstarted.htm http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:1ilEf4An7dMJ:www.bfmed.org/ace-files/protocol/finalcontraceptionprotocolsent2.pdf+lactational+am enorrhea+fertilityhl=engl=auct=clnkcd=30
RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
I'm guessing Royal Womens Hospital, Randwick Sydney... From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:50:08 +0900 Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I cant remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MMAdvertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Dear Mary, Yes, the Birth Centre at the Royal in Brisbane officially do waterbirth. Regard, Anne Clarke - Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi Mary, In northern NSW/southern Qld two centres offer waterbirths: Mullumbimby Hospital which is a small unit for low risk women, about 130 births/annum John Flynn Private Hospital in Cooloangatta Qld offer water births, don't know numbers also just read that Coffs Harbour Health Campus do waterbirths, 850 births/annum Sue Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can’t remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Also the Birth Centre at King Edwards in Perth can 'unofficially' do them - if you get the right MW with you ;-) From: "Kristin Beckedahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:46:26 +0800 I'm guessing Royal Womens Hospital, Randwick Sydney... From: "Mary Murphy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirthDate: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:50:08 +0900 Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I cant remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM Advertisement: Meet Sexy Singles Today @ Lavalife - Click here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. 50% off all leading brand cosmetics and free delivery at Strawberrynet ... click here to find out more -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Wyong does Di - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM __ NOD32 1932 (20061220) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Hi Mary, Mt Barker hospital in the Adelaide hills do waterbirth. Most of the Midwives are ok to do them but there is still a few who aren't comfy with the idea. We have about 400 births annually, a six bed ward and one corner bath in a separate bathroom. Women are given the labour and birth in water guideline brochure antenataly and if we get the chance, we get them to google waterbirth and do a bit of research before they come in. Nice to see that quite a few of the smaller units have been mentioned, Cheers, Julie:) I - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth
Yes Mary, Rosebud Campus (Peninsula Health Network) Casey Hospital (Southern Health Network) officially 'do' waterbirths ie have a formalised P P regarding them. With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] waterbirth Hi everyone, I know this question has been asked before, but I can't remember the answer. Do we have any maternity units, birth centres etc who officially do waterbirth? I know homebirthers do, but I want to know about institutions. Thanks, MM
[ozmidwifery] 'Official Waterbirth'
Hi Mary, Rosebud Midwifery Unit (Peninsula Health Network) Casey Hospital (Southern Health Network) officially 'do' waterbirths ie have a formalised P P regarding them. With kind regards Brenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;[EMAIL PROTECTED] FN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG:themidwife TEL;HOME;VOICE:0359862535 TEL;CELL;VOICE:0409194623 TEL;HOME;FAX:0359862535 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20061221T065359Z END:VCARD