Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
Grrr too. This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Naturopath CBE Dear Kristin and all You can:-)) Join MC cause we make representations like this all the time. In fact I will raising this issue with the Shadow Hlth Mins in a couple of weeks. Write letters to your local/state papers asking why the total lack of competition and care that is not based on sound health outcomes etc etc Inform all your CBE clients that PHI (Priv Hlth Ins) is totally discriminatory and does not allow choice (ie no midwifery care). It will fund joggers and aromatheraphy and yet the most important decision for a couple they are forced to use a priv obs at a priv hosp and by that very fact significantly increase their chance of unnecessary surgery and resultant morbidity. Support anyone who has PHI who wants a mid choice to approach their fund and request parity for maternity care (ie same costs covered for M/w¹s as Obs). When as they no doubt will say no. Take it further to the Private Health Insurance Ombudsman His details are Mr John Powlay and this is from their site www.phio.org.au You can raise a complaint with us by phone, email, fax or letter. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private Health Insurance Ombudsman Level 7, 362 Kent Street SYDNEY NSW 2000 Complaints Hotline:1800 640 695 Telephone: (02) 8235 8777 Facsimile: (02) 8235 8778 Points to make (which I know you already know!!) *There are more babies born each year than any other health procedure. *In private health insurance there is absolutely no competition, it is totally medically dominated. *It is also an area that is crippling health funds (so much so that smaller funds actually tell you which Obstetrician you can see as they can only afford some). *Some funds are looking at providing a midwifery benefit (as they recognise the huge cost saving) but where is the Government support?? Still no assistance with insurance. With insurance all funds could offer choice (that would also double as a HUGE cost saver). Importantly it would also make PHI a viable option for rural consumers (currently as most rural areas do not have private Obs or even Obs there is no point joining up). This shows what a giant waste of money PHI is in its current form. Hope this helps
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife NSW Hornsby-Epping
Dear Kelly Robyn Dempsey lives close by Ph: 98887829 www.homebirthmidwives.com.au Justine Caines Secretary Homebirth Australia PO Box 625 SCONE NSW 2337 Ph: (02) 65453612 0408 21 02 73 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.homebirthaustralia.org
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
That is just plain ridiculousif we aren't 'competent' enough to work outside of a hospitalwhat makes us any more competent inside 4 walls? Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kristin Beckedahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:28:58 +0800 Grrr too. This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Naturopath CBE From: brendamanning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:30:46 +1100 Medicare does not recognise Midwives as 'professionals' competent or capable of practicing without the supervision of a doctor in Australia. Therefore it will not recompense any services provided by them to pregnant women. HOWEVER: The exception is when working in a remote community : in which case you don't even have to be a midwife to provide pre-natal care, enrolled nurses aboriginal health workers with NO mid education are considered quite competent to provide maternity care which medicare will refund for as long as they are supervised (however loosely) by a doctor (who of course knows much more about normal pregnancy childbirth then any midwife) ! If Midwives were as qualified as a chiropractor, chiropodist, naturopath, herbalist etc then they would get recognition. It would appear that we just aren't up to scratch !!! Our skills whilst working within a hospital immediately disappear once we step off the premises apparently. Amazing stuff ! G Cheers Brenda - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Amanda, I rang medicare this this week to see on any level particually medicare 16400, if they would fund childbirth education classes. Unfortuantely they don't. They suggested ringing hte major health funds, I haven't gotten there yet, but wuold be interested to know too... Rachael Now all you work from home and have your own business midwives can you please tell me how I am able to offer health fund rebates IF I decided to fun my own business from home I have been thinking of it for a while - not homebirths as such cause I want insurance for that but other midwifery services that I can offer? Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Live Search delivers results the way you like it. Try live.com now! -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eninemsn%2Erealestate%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Frsearch%3Fa%3Dbhp%26t%3Dhol%26cu%3DMSN_t=758874163_r=HM_Txt_Link_Holiday_Oct06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Rebates
So do I need a provider number to offer rebates? Where do I get one if I need one?? Thanks all :) Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
I can add to this outrage. I am a naturopath and as such could not assist any of my pregnant patients to birth their babies. I had to go the circuitous route and study first as an RN then 1 year postgrad to become a midwife. Now, after this four years, as a midwife I cannot claim rebate from the system that trained me, but as a naturopath I can. How bizzare is that? Gail From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:38:15 +0900 The voters can and the members of Health Funds can. We midwives cannot. We independent midwives have all been trying for years and years. Sometimes the ACMI has a go, but all to no avail so far. MM _ This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Medicare does not recognise Midwives as 'professionals' competent or capable of practicing without the supervision of a doctor in Australia. Therefore it will not recompense any services provided by them to pregnant women. HOWEVER: The exception is when working in a remote community : in which case you don't even have to be a midwife to provide pre-natal care, enrolled nurses aboriginal health workers with NO mid education are considered quite competent to provide maternity care which medicare will refund for as long as they are supervised (however loosely) by a doctor (who of course knows much more about normal pregnancy childbirth then any midwife) ! If Midwives were as qualified as a chiropractor, chiropodist, naturopath, herbalist etc then they would get recognition. It would appear that we just aren't up to scratch !!! Our skills whilst working within a hospital immediately disappear once we step off the premises apparently. Amazing stuff ! I rang medicare this this week to see on any level particually medicare 16400, if they would fund childbirth education classes. Unfortuantely they don't. They suggested ringing hte major health funds, I haven't gotten there yet, but wuold be interested to know too... Rachael Now all you work from home and have your own business midwives can you please tell me how I am able to offer health fund rebates IF I decided to fun my own business from home I have been thinking of it for a while - not homebirths as such cause I want insurance for that but other midwifery services that I can offer? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwife NSW Hornsby-Epping
Thanks all, huge response so she has lots to choose from :-) Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby Australian Birth http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au/ Post Natal Services Conference 2007 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justine Caines Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:53 PM To: OzMid List Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwife NSW Hornsby-Epping Dear Kelly Robyn Dempsey lives close by Ph: 98887829 www.homebirthmidwives.com.au Justine Caines Secretary Homebirth Australia PO Box 625 SCONE NSW 2337 Ph: (02) 65453612 0408 21 02 73 E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.homebirthaustralia.org
RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
There must be quite some variation between health funds then. My HF covers confinement and delivery at home as long as the care is provided by a registered midwife in private practice. I might actually call them today and find out if they have a list of midwives who they deal with. Sam. I can add to this outrage. I am a naturopath and as such could not assist any of my pregnant patients to birth their babies. I had to go the circuitous route and study first as an RN then 1 year postgrad to become a midwife. Now, after this four years, as a midwife I cannot claim rebate from the system that trained me, but as a naturopath I can. How bizzare is that? Gail From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:38:15 +0900 The voters can and the members of Health Funds can. We midwives cannot. We independent midwives have all been trying for years and years. Sometimes the ACMI has a go, but all to no avail so far. MM _ This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Medicare does not recognise Midwives as 'professionals' competent or capable of practicing without the supervision of a doctor in Australia. Therefore it will not recompense any services provided by them to pregnant women. HOWEVER: The exception is when working in a remote community : in which case you don't even have to be a midwife to provide pre-natal care, enrolled nurses aboriginal health workers with NO mid education are considered quite competent to provide maternity care which medicare will refund for as long as they are supervised (however loosely) by a doctor (who of course knows much more about normal pregnancy childbirth then any midwife) ! If Midwives were as qualified as a chiropractor, chiropodist, naturopath, herbalist etc then they would get recognition. It would appear that we just aren't up to scratch !!! Our skills whilst working within a hospital immediately disappear once we step off the premises apparently. Amazing stuff ! I rang medicare this this week to see on any level particually medicare 16400, if they would fund childbirth education classes. Unfortuantely they don't. They suggested ringing hte major health funds, I haven't gotten there yet, but wuold be interested to know too... Rachael Now all you work from home and have your own business midwives can you please tell me how I am able to offer health fund rebates IF I decided to fun my own business from home I have been thinking of it for a while - not homebirths as such cause I want insurance for that but other midwifery services that I can offer? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates
NO there is no variation, this discussion is centred around MEDICARE...the Govt refund for fees charged. All women should be entitled to midwifery care to be recompensed for an agreed scheduled fee. There is no recognition of a registered midwife in IP being qualified to provide the specialised care for maternity clients for which she has been trained. Some private health funds recomp up to $2000 of a MIPP fee, it's up to the consumer to shop around for the best deal here as Justine pointed out in a previous email. Cheers Brenda - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:56 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates There must be quite some variation between health funds then. My HF covers confinement and delivery at home as long as the care is provided by a registered midwife in private practice. I might actually call them today and find out if they have a list of midwives who they deal with. Sam. I can add to this outrage. I am a naturopath and as such could not assist any of my pregnant patients to birth their babies. I had to go the circuitous route and study first as an RN then 1 year postgrad to become a midwife. Now, after this four years, as a midwife I cannot claim rebate from the system that trained me, but as a naturopath I can. How bizzare is that? Gail From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fund rebates Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 16:38:15 +0900 The voters can and the members of Health Funds can. We midwives cannot. We independent midwives have all been trying for years and years. Sometimes the ACMI has a go, but all to no avail so far. MM _ This is totally unacceptable and bloody outrageous - how can we change this???!! Kristin Medicare does not recognise Midwives as 'professionals' competent or capable of practicing without the supervision of a doctor in Australia. Therefore it will not recompense any services provided by them to pregnant women. HOWEVER: The exception is when working in a remote community : in which case you don't even have to be a midwife to provide pre-natal care, enrolled nurses aboriginal health workers with NO mid education are considered quite competent to provide maternity care which medicare will refund for as long as they are supervised (however loosely) by a doctor (who of course knows much more about normal pregnancy childbirth then any midwife) ! If Midwives were as qualified as a chiropractor, chiropodist, naturopath, herbalist etc then they would get recognition. It would appear that we just aren't up to scratch !!! Our skills whilst working within a hospital immediately disappear once we step off the premises apparently. Amazing stuff ! I rang medicare this this week to see on any level particually medicare 16400, if they would fund childbirth education classes. Unfortuantely they don't. They suggested ringing hte major health funds, I haven't gotten there yet, but wuold be interested to know too... Rachael Now all you work from home and have your own business midwives can you please tell me how I am able to offer health fund rebates IF I decided to fun my own business from home I have been thinking of it for a while - not homebirths as such cause I want insurance for that but other midwifery services that I can offer? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: It's simple! Sell your car for just $20 at carsales.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801577%2Fpi%5F1005244%2Fai%5F838588_t=757768878_r=endtext_simple_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Doula in Newcastle
Doulas in Newcastle: Michelle (shell_l_d in my forums) is looking for a Doula in Newcastle, second bub, private hospital VBAC. Please email her at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby Australian Birth http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au/ Post Natal Services Conference 2007
RE: [ozmidwifery] Breech Ob in S.A.
I’m not recommending anyone per say, because as we all know, the difference between the philosophies of midwives and private ob’s are often great…however, it is worth looking at Chris Wilkinson and Brian Peat at the Women’s and Childrens, and I know Basil Antonas does vaginal breeches for a second baby…not sure of any others that would put themselves out there with that kind of stuff, there are a couple of Ob’s at Burnside who recommend women to hire birthing pools (there are no baths there in their labour ward) – Karen Chandler and Tracey Bradbury, but I’ve never met either of them. They are both of the opinion that women can ‘wallow’ in labour, but not birth in water…not sure what the midwives that work there think about that. Not sure if that’s helpful, but a few names are better than none I suppose…something to go on with and start researching…of course, if she wants something better than that she should be looking for a practitioner who regularly attends waterbirths, and is comfortable with her birthing any which way she pleases – perhaps a private midwife?? Many are very comfortable with the idea of an uncomplicated breech, waterbirth, standing, whatever… :-) HTH Tania Xx PS you could always refer her to contact the Birth Matters group (my email or HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ) for further information _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Zantey Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:00 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breech Ob in S.A. Sorry if this is a double post, didn’t see it come through: “Are there any Obs in Adelaide who are waterbirth and breech birth friendly? My friend is hoping to get into the Midwifery Group Practice at the Womens and Children's in Adelaide. Places are limited though and rather than the public system being the second option she would prefer private care with an Ob. Ultimately her birthing preference would be to have a waterbirth... are there any Obs that are open to accommodating this request? At the same time... are their any Obs in Adelaide that will deliver a breech baby vaginally (says something positive for their philosophy on birth)? Any recommendation/help with this would be greatly appreciated!!” Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, HYPERLINK http://www.bellybelly.com.auBellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby HYPERLINK http://www.abpnsconference2007.com.au/Australian Birth Post Natal Services Conference 2007 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 2:49 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/658 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 2:49 PM
[ozmidwifery] Big Baby 8kg born in Brazil
Quite a story!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4191765.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4191765.stm
RE: [ozmidwifery] RE:
Alan is it ok if I contact you off list to give you the contact details of this woman in Ararat??? My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers Amanda. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:31:00 +1100 I would be available Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 21:25 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: October Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:38:14 +1100 I'm on my way down to VIC in the next couple of weeks. When do you need someone for? Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amanda W Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:28 To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Hi all, Am looking for a midwife/doula that will visit Ararat. Can anyone help??? Cheers Amanda. Amanda Ward Creative Memories Consultant Ph. (07) 3261 4354 Mob, 0417 009 648 Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_ t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t =757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Breech Ob in S.A.
I think your friend would probably be safer with an elective c/s than attempting a breech birth in the private system. it is unlikely to be physiological but will be medically managed which is just not safe. If she is seriously considering a breech birth it's important that the practitioner is confident in breech birth and physiological labour. In both the public and private system the care is undertaken by midwives and the breech extracted by an Ob, this is not something I would recommend. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Breech Ob in S.A. Sorry if this is a double post, didn't see it come through: Are there any Obs in Adelaide who are waterbirth and breech birth friendly? My friend is hoping to get into the Midwifery Group Practice at the Womens and Children's in Adelaide. Places are limited though and rather than the public system being the second option she would prefer private care with an Ob. Ultimately her birthing preference would be to have a waterbirth... are there any Obs that are open to accommodating this request? At the same time... are their any Obs in Adelaide that will deliver a breech baby vaginally (says something positive for their philosophy on birth)? Any recommendation/help with this would be greatly appreciated!! Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Conception, Pregnancy, Birth and Baby Australian Birth Post Natal Services Conference 2007