Re: [ozmidwifery] Article about natural birth and brain haemorrhage
My GOODNESS!!! All in the name of research…..I definitely wouldn't be letting my newborn have a MRI scan! I wonder if the parents were paid (and if so..how much) to allow their newborn to take part? Interesting to see if there is an increase in cancers for this research group in years to come. Belinda Not sure why an MRI would cause cancers as the type of energy used does not disrupt DNA or any biological process... I'd be more worried that the babies would have to be immobilised for the scan (if so - how?) and would probably be terrified as they are very noisy. Emma -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping
Hi Raelene, Is Simone Elston still working there? If so say Hi for me. Megan. - Original Message - From: George, Raelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] co-sleeping Hi All, Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about special cots to enable mother's to co-sleep in hospital. I have investigated the web sites you suggested, but couldn't find exactly what I wanted. However, I have contacted a manufacturer, who may be able to help. I now have another request.Our maternity unit in Kalgoorlie is in desperate need (who isn't!) of some senior midwives. Keep an eye out for our Secret Midwives Business pamphlet in the next catalogue of Birth International and give me a call if you are interested...It's a great place to work. Cheers Raelene George FACM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article
What irresponsible bullshit is this. Someone is telling a lot of lies to women and articles like this are normalising them and spreading them further. Choice schmoice. Is it just My Choice to drink till paralytic when pregnant? To refuse to use a car seat? To lie down in the middle of the road and hope cars don't hit me when I'm pregnant? To have no brakes on my car? The reality is that this woman had unnecessary surgery which had three times the likelihood of killing her or the baby, a massive risk of losing her uterus, PND, being unable to establish a breastfeeding relationship, PTSD, and the myriad of other wellknown risks from all the drugs and crap put into her and her baby. She may have the dubious right to demand unnecessary surgery in obstetrics but does she have the right to also inflict this on her child? So if we want to call it choice, would that be her child's choice? We need to get back our outrage at the innately pathological act that is cutting into perfectly healthy bodies for no reason. Endangering our lives and that of our babies isn't just a choice or a right it's a supremely selfdestructive act within a powerfully misogynist context that has left us with the utterly appalling hospital system we have. Let's all have colostomy bags fitted so we don't have to be so uncivilised as to defecate. Perhaps we could be fed via tubes to avoid eating and swallowing? This stuff is the very acme of disgusting. J - Original Message - From: suzi and brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article Who wants to be civilised ? This is our chance to be gorgeously uncivilised, raunchy and wild ! But i do respect her right to choose what she feels is best for her. Suzi - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?article=3614 I just read this article on why a woman chose an elective c-section. She refers to it as being the civilised way to give birth. How awful and I can't believe it was published. Sam. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux/ chiro
Thanks for that Pinky. I am still generally skeptical, but certainly agree that in all professions or occupations there are some who will have outstanding results! Megan - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux/ chiro Hi Michelle Suzi and Meg I absolutely agree that some babies do have reflux/ colic -I had one baby who vomited and screamed - baby no 3 - reflux wasnt a diagnosis in those days and I lived through it with her in a sling against my bare skin and a poncho over both of us. I actually wasnt worried that she had 'something dreadful' despite the first two being fat happy boys. I do believe allergies contributed - but certainly didnt have Michelle's experience of constipation as well. I would never undermine a mother's claim of 'reflux' -but I do seem to find that aboiut 2/ 3 of babies in my massage classes have been diagnosed AND medicated for reflux so I wonder if some of these are more of an 'unsettled' baby rather than a truly distressed one - there are definitely degrees eg the definition of colic - 3 hours of crying, 3 days a week for 3 weeks - I dont think two hours screaming is any fun for any mum but does she miss out on support if her baby cries less than the definition?. Or are there are other contributing causes to the crying that are simply being palmed off as 'reflux'. I believe what mums say and would especially never question a mum of multiples as having unrealistic expectations as they have comparison of their own previous experience. Perhaps I only see more desperate people and many mums are very isolated - who is taking a screaming baby out? In such cases it isnt easy for a tired, worried mum to see what is a range of baby behaviour when you are adjusting to a whole new life. Re the chiro - I had suggested to this particular mum ( with breech bub) that perhaps a chiro or osteopath would be helpful ( I was thinking more of hip/ nerve pinching) . Could an arm have been up by babys head and 'squashed'?? I havent seen the mum privately to ask this - when I asked did he favour one side/ seem more unsettled on a particular side, she didnt know as according to her, he was always so miserable that she couldnt tell and prescribed reflux meds werent helping. She is a vet herself so made her own choices. The chiro I referred to is paed trained (not many are), married to an osteopath and very gentle with babies -I have heard him speak ( he has spoken to midwives at RWH Melbourne) and seen him work ( on my own child and grandchild who was a gentle waterbirth but commando crawling asymmetrically, using one leg only - pushed off with the opposite leg a couple of days later ?? coincidence or treatment, I guess we wont know but I have seen 'slower' babies crawl the same week as a treatment) . I used to be a skeptic myself and would never refer to anybody I wasn't very confident about- even then I am gentle about suggesting anybody other than MCH: LC or GP - However, I have seen some wonderful results both from this particular chiro and some osteopaths - eg babies who favour one side/ positional turns and in particular one baby who was very 'sicky' dribbly and a very slow feeder (already on bottle before I met him) - baby came without his bib to class and I commented -I didnt know he had been to the chiro. The parents beaming, said, we took him to Braden yesterday and he feeds in twenty minutes now and has stopped vomiting/ dribbling. Pinky - Original Message - From: suzi and brett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I have one of those coloured charts too - diary of a mad housewife! I always planned to blow it up and make art - its quite graphic and pretty! We could have an exhibition! mine did help explain to the Child Health nurse that - yes my baby never slept for 45 mins at a time then and hour of crying...for 7 months! I am absolutely convinced now that im more informed that it was REFLUX even though every one said its over diagnosed and mythological at the time. Sitting up, eating solids, general maturation of the oesophageal sphincter all helped and proved retrospectively what the prob was. If only some one had diagnosed it earlier and i had treated with homeopathics (and ive heard a great Bowen therapy technique helps too) I might have had a second baby after all ! Love suzi - Original Message - From: MHOOK To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Reflux I don't know about over-diagnosis- my second baby (now 17) had reflux and it made her first six months the worst of my life. I'd had a perfectly normal time with my first baby, he was unsettled like
Re: [ozmidwifery] Elective c-section article
Janet Fraser wrote: What irresponsible bullshit is this. Someone is telling a lot of lies to women and articles like this are normalising them and spreading them further. Choice schmoice. Is it just My Choice to drink till paralytic when pregnant? To refuse to use a car seat? To lie down in the middle of the road and hope cars don't hit me when I'm pregnant? To have no brakes on my car? The reality is that this woman had unnecessary surgery which had three times the likelihood of killing her or the baby, a massive risk of losing her uterus, PND, being unable to establish a breastfeeding relationship, PTSD, and the myriad of other wellknown risks from all the drugs and crap put into her and her baby. She may have the dubious right to demand unnecessary surgery in obstetrics but does she have the right to also inflict this on her child? So if we want to call it choice, would that be her child's choice? We need to get back our outrage at the innately pathological act that is cutting into perfectly healthy bodies for no reason. Endangering our lives and that of our babies isn't just a choice or a right it's a supremely selfdestructive act within a powerfully misogynist context that has left us with the utterly appalling hospital system we have. Let's all have colostomy bags fitted so we don't have to be so uncivilised as to defecate. Perhaps we could be fed via tubes to avoid eating and swallowing? This stuff is the very acme of disgusting. J Hear hear. Love your work Janet. -- Jennifairy Gillett RM Midwife in Private Practice Women’s Health Teaching Associate ITShare volunteer – Santos Project Co-ordinator ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals groups, created from donated hardware and opensource software -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
