Re: [ozmidwifery] workshops
Oops, I had already thanked Gloria for the valuable information and contributions she offers, prior to seeing this. Perhaps if there were some clear rules and guidelines set out, it would be easier for listers to adhere to them? I also feel that perhaps emails like the below one would be more appropriately sent directly (privately) to the lister concerned, and not to the entire list. Perhaps this was sent to the whole list in error. - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] workshops Hi Gloria, I notice that you have sent an E-Bulletin from Capers to the ozmidwifery list. This Bulletin was clearly intended for Capers E-Bulletin subscribers and not for general consumption. It is not acceptable netiquette to post E-Bulletins to open mailing lists and whilst we don't moderate our list (unlike Capers, who screen their subscribers before allowing them to join) we also trust that our readers will observe the appropriate behaviours associated with lists. We are tolerant of some advertising by community groups etc on our ozmidwifery list, but you will have noticed that we rarely advertise our own events, believing that this list is a forum for discussion not advertising. We maintain our own E-Bulletin lists for advertising to those who have requested that they be kept updated in this way. Perhaps you were asked to forward this Bulletin to the list. Please refrain from doing this again. Regards, Andrea At 11:25 AM 10/03/2006, you wrote: Welcome to another eNewsletter * Call for Abstracts - Research Conference, being held in conjunction with Emergency Skills for Midwives Workshop * CERPS for Breastfeeding Conferences * Teri Shilling workshops - some places available * New to the website * CAIRNS - Breastfeeding Update Ethics in Lactation Practice * Breastfeeding: A Lifelong Investment - Extension of early payment deadline. * Nils Bergman Tom Hale available to address groups of medical practitioners and pharmacists. * Call for Abstracts The deadline is 31 March for this Conference at Noosa Heads - it will be held in conjunction with a one-day Emergency Skills for Midwives workshop. http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/events/BIconference.htm * CERPS Breastfeeding: A Lifelong Investment has been approved for 5 L CERPS and 1 E CERP. Breastfeeding Update and Ethics in Lactation Practice has been approved for 6.5 L and 6.5 E CERPS. * Teri Shilling Workshops We've arranged for the one day workshop in Brisbane (Friday) to be moved to a bigger room to cope with the demand for places. Other workshops have a few places available. http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/events/terishilling.htm * New to the Website = See them all here: http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/scripts/news.asp including The Labor Progress Handbook 2/ed is now available at http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/scripts/shop_item.asp?by=cdeitem=mi1652 Mixed Blessings: Deborah Lee - interviewed on A Current Affair http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/scripts/shop_item.asp?by=ttlitem=2165 Defiant Birth:Women who resist Medical Eugenics - in the news http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/scripts/shop_item.asp?by=cdeitem=pb3401 * CAIRNS - Breastfeeding Update Ethics in Lactation Practice === The discounted registration fee needs to be paid 30 days before the weekend seminar on 27/28 May, so it must be paid before 27 April. Register early for all these popular seminars. http://www.capersbookstore.com.au/events/breastfeeding2.htm * Breastfeeding: A Lifelong Investment The deadline for receipt of the $165 fee ($155 for NZ venues) is 31 March. From 1 April, it's $195 (or $180 for NZ venues) for everyone (except Birth Issues subscribers who get a 10% discount). However, places are limited. *Nils Bergman Tom Hale available If your hospital has lunchtime talks, or rounds with visiting experts, this will interest you. Nils Bergman and Tom Hale are available to speak to groups of medical practitioners and/or pharmacists (only).. contact me for further information. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday
Can someone paraphrase here what she's saying/said? I can't get it either. - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday I can't seem to find it on - if someone finds the show can you let me know! I would like to ask what her background is EXACTLY in regards to training. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Wednesday, 1 March 2006 9:40 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday She is on life matters (radio national) right now. At 1:06 PM +1100 28/2/06, Helen and Graham wrote: Yes Emily - follow this link it's on video. http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?f=39g=d6868579-89b4-423d-82c8-7 cc218a93eebp=aunews_autodayt=s29 She certainly did look nervous I thought. Also didn't seem to make sense what she was saying This is what I wrote in ...up on my soapbox! Could you please clarify Tizzie Hall's qualifications when you interview her next week on her new book Save Our Sleep. I have been hearing some mixed reactions to her teachings online and as a midwife and mother, I am usually pretty lukewarm about people SELLING quick fixes to baby sleep problems. Really I think we should be encouraging people to accept their babies the way they are. If you look at other cultures, they all sleep together and breastfeed when they want. Why do we continue to put children into their own rooms up the other end of the house and expect them to sleep and only feed them when we think they should need it! No wonder we have so many neurotic people with eating disorders, depression, etc. etc. in our society. Western culture is an abhorration in this situation. We have it all wrong. My 2 cents worth. Helen - Original Message - From: Emily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday hi all is there anywhere you can download it from because i missed it as i have no tv ! love emily --- Kelly @ BellyBelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think someone seemed a little (well maybe A LOT!) nervous - and rightly so And I know who wrote that email too, so it was great to see one being read out, from someone I know! :-) I also think that they decided to change the interview format given the circumstances. There is a lot of discussion about it on my forums about some contradictory points in her interview with her own beliefs. Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support - Click Here _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felicity Dowker Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2006 9:19 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday She's awful, isn't she. I wrote a rather long, rather strongly worded email after seeing her on there this morning. - Original Message - From: Kelly @ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday Dear all, Be sure to watch the channel 9 Today Show on Tuesday - Tizz.ie Hall is on Tuesday the 28th of February at 8:20 am. Perhaps about her new sleep book which is being released, this is what I am guessing. Be sure to watch. Oh and you might like to know that the Today Show's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;) Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth Parenthood http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support BellyBelly Birth Support __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday
She's awful, isn't she. I wrote a rather long, rather strongly worded email after seeing her on there this morning. - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Watch the Today Show - Tuesday Dear all, Be sure to watch the channel 9 Today Show on Tuesday Tizz.ie Hall is on Tuesday the 28th of February at 8:20 am. Perhaps about her new sleep book which is being released, this is what I am guessing. Be sure to watch. Oh and you might like to know that the Today Shows email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;) Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support
Re: [ozmidwifery] Letter to Miranda
What's the email address to send our letters to? (Great letter, Diane. Phillipa, I loved yours, too.) - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Letter to Miranda Heres my letter to Ms Devine. Dear Miranda, Yes Miranda, baby Natalia's death was indeed tragic, as is the death of any baby.(Playing politics... 26th Feb 06) As the tribunal stated... there was no guarantee the baby would have lived if a caesarean had been ordered. This situation also happens in large hospitals with hot and cold running specialists.. in fact statistically it is more likely to happen in that situation. What if the theatres are full? That means just as long a wait for surgery in a unit where staff are on call. Why do you continue on to demonise midwifery models of care? Or small unit safety? If you had done your research instead of just spruiking for a doctor, you would have found a recent study released by Prof. Sally Tracey which clearly and definitively proves the safety of smaller birthing units in Australia. As for a transfer of resources to the Central Coast well .. a) There IS life outside of the great metropolis, where families deserve to be able to exercise choices in care or do you suggest a birthing woman from Budgewoi should risk birthing on the side of the F3 in a rush to RNS?? and... b) About the biggest thing that the Central Coast got from the amalgamation is a share of the large debt, which has lead to a staffing crisis in Central Coast maternity services, where there is an embargo enforced on recruitment. This means that no new appropriately qualified midwives can be employed... hows that for safety? Your warning about political meddling in childbirth is appropriate. What about unnecessary medical meddling in childbirth? That is just as dangerous. Miranda, do your homework. The figures about midwifery models of care vs. medical models speak for themselves. Yes, women should have a choice about birth. What you want to take away from them IS CHOICE, a choice of where to birth. It is a woman's choice if she wants to birth in a small, friendly, non medical environment where her midwife will protect her dignity and the sanctity of birth to allow the natural process to unfold without dangerous medical interference. Miranda, when are you going to stop this unfounded scaremongering? Diane
[ozmidwifery] My letter to Sydney Morning Herald/Miranda Devine
Ms Devine, Having just read your article, "Playing politics puts mothers' and their babies' lives at risk" (26th Feb 06), I can confidently state that I agree with you on only two points. Firstly, that political meddling in childbirth certainly does put Mothers and babies at risk (however, it is largely the meddling of the Obstetric active management model, misinformed Hospital staff, and archaic fear-led protocols not based in evidence that endanger and kill Mothers and babies on a horrific daily basis. Evidence shows the overwhelming safety and viability of Midwifery/Birth Centre care.). Secondly, that the death of baby Natalia Lalic was tragic and saddening (as are the unnecessary mutilations, rape, coercion, trauma, injury and death that women and babies routinely suffer whilst birthing in Hospitals). The rest of your article is sadly misinformed, scaremongering, and deeply disappointing. Governments are actually closing rural Maternity units and Birth Centres en masse across Australia. It would seem that Obstetricians and Hospitals do not make much money from simply allowing women to give birth without unnecessary interference, drugs (for which Obstetricians and Hospitals often receive kickbacks) or attendance. Articles like yours prey on the current societal belief that birth is a dangerous illness that requires active management by Obstetricians in order to rescue women and babies from the inherently flawed process. With this being the popular belief, why on Earth would any savvy Politician back a losing horse, by utilising the feared, maligned, neglected and misunderstood Midwifery led care model to win votes? Your conspiracy theorising makes no sense. In speaking only to Obstetricians and active campaigners against Midwifery led care, your article is nothing more than a podium for bias and misinformation to be trumpeted from. When will you make an attempt to cover the issue thoroughly? When will you cease your obvious public airing of your agenda against feminism, natural birth, and Midwifery? Are you so deeply threatened by the prospect of woman centered care that your need to silence and squash the issue is stronger than your need to make sense, have integrity, and be a genuine Journalist, rather than a rather comical maternity newsprint version of Pauline Hanson? Attempting to give birth naturally in Hospital is certainly not an easy prospect for women; they do NOT have the "choice" you claim they do. Only 5% of women in Hospitals give birth naturally. Caesarean rates in some Australian Hospitals are 80% (compared to the World Health Organisations recommendation of 10 15%). Birth trauma groups are, sadly, thriving. Coercion, misinformation, bullying and rape occur at almost every birth in a Hospital setting. Do you know what "active management" is? Perhaps you should research it it is the standard model of care for maternity Hospitals, and it certainly leaves no room for the choice for a natural birth, or for the acceptance of normality and safety in birth (opposed to the smaller risk). Birthing in a Hospital IS a risky, unsafe business. Many, many Mothers and babies suffer injury or death there that could be prevented. Many women are now researching and discovering this, and making informed choices to opt for the safest model of care possible that is, Midwifery led care with a known care provider, either in a Birth Centre or in their home. Your inability to study this issue thoroughly and/or to accept it is sad. Your need to demonise it and attempt to frighten women away from it is malicious, reprehensible, and somewhat ridiculous. One baby death that may or may not have been linked to the use of Midwifery led care, compared to the numbers of babies dying every day in major Hospitals that are inarguably the result of care received there as a case in point to refute Midwifery care, feminism and natural birth? Please. I look forward to a good chuckle from your articles in future. They certainly make good toilet paper when recycled, so at least they are doing SOME good to the universe. Felicity Dowker
Re: [ozmidwifery] Online meeting places for Australian Doulas / Birth Attendants
I'm already a member of Australian Doulas, Kelley, but rarely get anything other than pharmaceutical ads from the mailing list. It would be good to see it used more enthusiastically! - Original Message - From: Kelly @ BellyBelly To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Online meeting places for Australian Doulas / Birth Attendants Hey all, I hope this post is appropriate! I love reading your discussions, however I do feel out of place not being a midwife and am keen to discuss some issues which I dont think will be of interest to some of you, like the ones over the last few days!!! Just wanted to send out an email to let everyone know about the Australian Doulas email list, as I know there are some doulas and birth attendants amongst us. I love chatting with other Doulas / Birth Attendants but there doesnt seem to be something busy enough about the place. If you know any doulas or birth attendants or are one yourself, you can join the Australian Doulas mailing list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australian-doulas/ - hopefully we can get some serious conversations going, rather than one email every six months or so! Come on guys, lets get together and chat about birth!!! Please join and introduce yourselves. Please feel free to pass on and circulate to others I didnt start Australian Doulas at all; I am just a Birth Attendant dying to have a place on the web to chat to other doulas and birth attendants. I am also going to start a section in my forums for us to chat, women to ask us questions etc so keep an eye on www.bellybelly.com.au/forums and I will set it up this evening down the bottom of the forums be sure to be registered and get chatting please I feel all alone here!!! Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support
Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Yes...brings to mind the reports of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes with their own personal ultrasound machine. - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI Just for clarification. This FDA warning is for the new 4D color ultrasounds. There is no problem with having an ordinary ultrasound and getting a print. The warning is because they are new and basically they don't know if they are as safe as the traditional scan. Yes But who knows if traditional ultrasound is safe anyway. There have been no studies to prove safety. We also have no idea of emissions from machine to machine because they are not regulated. Why no studies? Well no commercial interest. I suspect this outburst is more about Drs loosing control to non-medicos cashing in on the 'entertainment ultrasound'. Bring the rellies and the popcorn... I weep for the future JC -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again...
Kelly, is that genuinely Tizzie on your forum? I find her appearance there very odd, and her posts a little difficult to follow (and poorly written), as well. The whole situation seems a tad ridiculous; Tizzie has been the topic of countless forum discussions on her techniques, her qualifications, and people's (often negative) opinions on them, many much worse than the relatively calm and tame Belly Belly thread in question. To sue over it seems extremely excessive, frivolously (dare I say, Americanised) litigious, and just very difficult to believe. It also wouldn't do Tizzie's image any favours for this to occur. Can someone really sue for a discussion held on a parenting forum about them, simply expressing member's opinions? I just find it all very hard to believe - and if there truly ~is~ an issue with false information being discussed about Tizzie, why doesn't she simply post something straightforward that answers everyone's questions and clears up any misunderstandings, rather than being cryptic and threatening legal action? - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... Haha she wants to sue me for questioning her education!!! Do you think my comments are valid in my reply? http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=382146#382146 On 2/18/2006, pinky mckay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When james, our youngest was 3 he said one day mummy, booby makes me feel brave when I get scared To me, that validates all I feel about little people and breastfeeding. I agree, WE are each the experts about our babies. I love a quote from an article by Kitty Frantz - you are not managing an inconvenience, you are raising a human being. Pinky Pinky - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... My husband and I have both just read your words with absolute understanding of where you are coming from. He has always been so supportive of our child's need to get boobie when he needed it. It was always more than a feed, he would sometimes be squarking for whatever reason, hot/cold/unhappy/out-of-sorts/lonely/needing-company/whatever..he would say give him the magic mountains and the little darling would just roll his eyes back into his head as he got on and before we knew it -- it was like some kind of electrical discharge with all the angst just going...going...gone... and he was happyso happy Helen and Graham - Original Message - From: Megan Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... After 7 1/2 years and 4 children, I know with all my heart that breastfeeding isn't all about food. My last child, 19 mths old, is my confirmation that when he comes to me for a feed he is seeking so much more. Through my milk and the act of feeding, at whatever time, he is getting his cup full, food, attention, comfort, confidence, courage, love, the list just goes on and on. I don't need science or education to tell me how suitable breastfeeding on demand is to a young child. I know its not eveyones cup of tea, nor an option for some and to be honest it can be bloody tiring. I chose it for my 3rd 4th boys, the lack of sleep has cost me a lot at times, but having done the Mum controlled (for want of a better word) and the child controlled, I choose the latter without a seconds thought. But that's me and as Brenda said, I'm the expert on me, everyone else needs to sort that out for themselves. As youngest is pulling my hands away from keyboard demanding boob heaven, See ya Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken WArd Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 5:51 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... DAAIRY FARMERS MAY MILK AT THE SAME TIMES EACH DAY, BUT CALVES FEED ALL THE TIME, WHENEVER THEY ARE HUNGRY. AS HUMAN BABIES NEED TO. WHO IS HUNGRY AT THE SAME TIME EVERY DAY? ALL ANIMALS FEED AS REQUIRED AND I AM YET TO SEE ONE WITH A WATCH. MAUREEN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kelly Zantey Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 3:47 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... Please ignore this post if it's innapropriate, but bit of a controversial discussion going on in the forums, wondering if anyone out there is up to replying at all? http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=381206 Would be nice to have some other pro-gentle back-up! Kelly Zantey www.bellybelly.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit
Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again...
Perhaps, when threatening legal action, it would be best to a) spell correctly, b) know how to use grammar and punctuation, and c) not be abusive yourself when advising of said legal action. That sounds like a poorly constructed bluff. - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... LOL Janet, I am trying to hang in there and am biting my tongue so hard I think it's going to start bleeding!!! I got an email from her office, an assistant Penny who told me this: To whom it may concern: Save Our Sleep is going to commence legal action on Monday. You have put up words which lead people to question Tizzie Hall's education and if you did your sums you would see it was quite possible for Tizzie to have studied for 6 years. If Tizzie went to school from the age of 4 to 18 and did 6 years in University which you actually don't have to in the UK as it is only a 4 year course it would be possible to then have started Save Our Sleep in 1996 with a couple of years in the middle. So really you should have go your fact straight before making accusations that are fiction. This is called defamation of character and we Save Our Sleep are holding www.bellybelly.com.au http://www.bellybelly.com.au/ responsible. Kind regards Penny And funny, everyone from Tizzie's office all greet people with 'Hi:' so I think it's all a big stunt from her office and a set-up on the forums... unless she is also teaching her clients to be educated and greet people with a 'Hi:' ! On 2/20/2006, Janet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelly I have to tell you you're a goddess for taking on this crap. People cynically making money telling lies to parents and torturing their children, sometimes in their own homes! Stick with it! Janet - shouting hooray at the screen!!! - Original Message - From: Kelly Zantey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... Haha she wants to sue me for questioning her education!!! Do you think my comments are valid in my reply? http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=382146#382146 On 2/18/2006, pinky mckay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When james, our youngest was 3 he said one day mummy, booby makes me feel brave when I get scared To me, that validates all I feel about little people and breastfeeding. I agree, WE are each the experts about our babies. I love a quote from an article by Kitty Frantz - you are not managing an inconvenience, you are raising a human being. Pinky Pinky - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... My husband and I have both just read your words with absolute understanding of where you are coming from. He has always been so supportive of our child's need to get boobie when he needed it. It was always more than a feed, he would sometimes be squarking for whatever reason, hot/cold/unhappy/out-of-sorts/lonely/needing-company/whatever..he would say give him the magic mountains and the little darling would just roll his eyes back into his head as he got on and before we knew it -- it was like some kind of electrical discharge with all the angst just going...going...gone... and he was happyso happy Helen and Graham - Original Message - From: Megan Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... After 7 1/2 years and 4 children, I know with all my heart that breastfeeding isn't all about food. My last child, 19 mths old, is my confirmation that when he comes to me for a feed he is seeking so much more. Through my milk and the act of feeding, at whatever time, he is getting his cup full, food, attention, comfort, confidence, courage, love, the list just goes on and on. I don't need science or education to tell me how suitable breastfeeding on demand is to a young child. I know its not eveyones cup of tea, nor an option for some and to be honest it can be bloody tiring. I chose it for my 3rd 4th boys, the lack of sleep has cost me a lot at times, but having done the Mum controlled (for want of a better word) and the child controlled, I choose the latter without a seconds thought. But that's me and as Brenda said, I'm the expert on me, everyone else needs to sort that out for themselves. As youngest is pulling my hands away from keyboard demanding boob heaven, See ya Megan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken WArd Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 5:51 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Babies Sleep Again... DAAIRY
