RE: [ozmidwifery] Dangers of nitrous oxide

2005-05-10 Thread Ken WArd
This concern has been around for many years. I first came across it in the 
early '70's. The units I have worked in in the past five years have installs 
scavenger units.Maureen

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 this is interesting reading thanks for sharing this with us,this gives us food 
for thought definately. sharon
 Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hello everyone,
 

 
The following piece is the transcript of a news item that was on the main 
 
ABC news last night. It has implications for women and midwives in labour 
 
wards - operating theatres are ventilated and well scavenged for gases, but 
 
labour wards may not be, unless there is active air conditioning system 
 
that cleans the air, and the apparatus used by the women are fitted with 
 
scavenger systems.
 

 
I have completed a long review article, with the help of an English 
 
midwife, that looks at the hazards of nitrous oxide for midwives and this 
 
will be published in The Practising Midwife in the June/July issue. Once it 
 
appears in print I will post it onto our website - it is very important 
 
that midwives read this, especially if nitrous oxide is used in their hospital.
 

 
Meanwhile, this is new evidence that will be useful...
 

 

 

 

 
Study highlights anaesthetic's risks
 

 
A new study raises serious concerns about the side-effects of nitrous 
 
oxide, the gas commonly known as laughing gas and used in general anaesthetics.
 

 
An Australian-led study of more than 2,000 patients in 20 hospitals around 
 
the world has found the gas slows the recovery process and increases the 
 
rate of serious vomiting, pneumonia and wound infections after surgery.
 

 
The results have prompted calls from doctors for the gas to be phased out 
 
in anaesthetics and only be used for fast pain relief in cases such as 
 
injuries and labour pains.
 

 
One of the study's chief investigators, Associate Professor Kate Lesley 
 
from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists, says 
 
the results will make doctors more cautious about using the gas.
 

 
Some people will choose to discontinue using it, some anaesthetists, on 
 
the basis of our study, she said.
 

 
Certainly in my practice I've stopped using nitrous oxide in higher-risk 
 
patients.
 

 
The problem is that you have to replace it with something and some of the 
 
other drugs that we have to use have also got significant side-effects, so 
 
it's not cut and dried.
 

 

 
Birth complications
 

 
Through the study, nitrous oxide has been linked to serious side-effects 
 
including immune system defects and birth complications.
 

 
Despite the head of the college saying that if it was banned there would be 
 
fewer sick people, Professor Lesley says such complications are very rare.
 

 
It's probable that nitrous oxide use is still acceptable and perfectly 
 
safe in people having short-term procedures, she said.
 

 
It is important to note that it's still safe for women in labour, so women 
 
can feel confident that getting on nitrous oxide for a short period during 
 
their labour pain is not dangerous.
 

 
The gas has been used in medicine for more than 150 years but such 
 
side-effects have only now been researched.
 

 
The study is the first to find faults in such a widely used anaesthetic.
 

 
The college of anaesthetists in Australia has been successful in putting 
 
together these very large trials and carrying them out successfully, 
 
Associate Professor Lesley said.
 

 
In the past anaesthesia and surgery were very dangerous anyway and 
 
anaesthesia has become so safe now, we're refining it more and more, and 
 
more subtle problems that we have are becoming obvious.
 

 
-
 

 
Regards
 

 
Andrea
 

 
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Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
 

 
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
web: www.birthinternational.com
 

 

 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Dangers of nitrous oxide

2005-05-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 hi this is off the track of this email but i was wondering is there any 
studies which compare the use of rectal and axilla temps on neonates. i have 
been looking for the evidence to present to the unit where i am currently 
working as a Graduate midwife and even though we had been told numerous times 
at uni that axilla temp does not differ from rectal i cant seem to find the 
evidence to back this up. the only piece of evidence which i found i couldnt 
down load from the site recommended neonates had their temps taken tympanically 
as the ambient temp of the room also assisted with the inaccurate temperature 
recording of the neonate.

any help finding out this information would be  greatly appreciated not only 
for my own use but hopefully i can get protocol changed where i work.

regards sharon
 Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hello everyone,
 

 
The following piece is the transcript of a news item that was on the main 
 
ABC news last night. It has implications for women and midwives in labour 
 
wards - operating theatres are ventilated and well scavenged for gases, but 
 
labour wards may not be, unless there is active air conditioning system 
 
that cleans the air, and the apparatus used by the women are fitted with 
 
scavenger systems.
 

 
I have completed a long review article, with the help of an English 
 
midwife, that looks at the hazards of nitrous oxide for midwives and this 
 
will be published in The Practising Midwife in the June/July issue. Once it 
 
appears in print I will post it onto our website - it is very important 
 
that midwives read this, especially if nitrous oxide is used in their hospital.
 

 
Meanwhile, this is new evidence that will be useful...
 

 

 

 

 
Study highlights anaesthetic's risks
 

 
A new study raises serious concerns about the side-effects of nitrous 
 
oxide, the gas commonly known as laughing gas and used in general anaesthetics.
 

 
An Australian-led study of more than 2,000 patients in 20 hospitals around 
 
the world has found the gas slows the recovery process and increases the 
 
rate of serious vomiting, pneumonia and wound infections after surgery.
 

 
The results have prompted calls from doctors for the gas to be phased out 
 
in anaesthetics and only be used for fast pain relief in cases such as 
 
injuries and labour pains.
 

 
One of the study's chief investigators, Associate Professor Kate Lesley 
 
from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists, says 
 
the results will make doctors more cautious about using the gas.
 

 
Some people will choose to discontinue using it, some anaesthetists, on 
 
the basis of our study, she said.
 

 
Certainly in my practice I've stopped using nitrous oxide in higher-risk 
 
patients.
 

 
The problem is that you have to replace it with something and some of the 
 
other drugs that we have to use have also got significant side-effects, so 
 
it's not cut and dried.
 

 

 
Birth complications
 

 
Through the study, nitrous oxide has been linked to serious side-effects 
 
including immune system defects and birth complications.
 

 
Despite the head of the college saying that if it was banned there would be 
 
fewer sick people, Professor Lesley says such complications are very rare.
 

 
It's probable that nitrous oxide use is still acceptable and perfectly 
 
safe in people having short-term procedures, she said.
 

 
It is important to note that it's still safe for women in labour, so women 
 
can feel confident that getting on nitrous oxide for a short period during 
 
their labour pain is not dangerous.
 

 
The gas has been used in medicine for more than 150 years but such 
 
side-effects have only now been researched.
 

 
The study is the first to find faults in such a widely used anaesthetic.
 

 
The college of anaesthetists in Australia has been successful in putting 
 
together these very large trials and carrying them out successfully, 
 
Associate Professor Lesley said.
 

 
In the past anaesthesia and surgery were very dangerous anyway and 
 
anaesthesia has become so safe now, we're refining it more and more, and 
 
more subtle problems that we have are becoming obvious.
 

 
-
 

 
Regards
 

 
Andrea
 

 
-
 
Andrea Robertson
 
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
 

 
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
web: www.birthinternational.com
 

 

 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Dangers of nitrous oxide

2005-05-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 this is interesting reading thanks for sharing this with us,this gives us food 
for thought definately. sharon
 Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hello everyone,
 

 
The following piece is the transcript of a news item that was on the main 
 
ABC news last night. It has implications for women and midwives in labour 
 
wards - operating theatres are ventilated and well scavenged for gases, but 
 
labour wards may not be, unless there is active air conditioning system 
 
that cleans the air, and the apparatus used by the women are fitted with 
 
scavenger systems.
 

 
I have completed a long review article, with the help of an English 
 
midwife, that looks at the hazards of nitrous oxide for midwives and this 
 
will be published in The Practising Midwife in the June/July issue. Once it 
 
appears in print I will post it onto our website - it is very important 
 
that midwives read this, especially if nitrous oxide is used in their hospital.
 

 
Meanwhile, this is new evidence that will be useful...
 

 

 

 

 
Study highlights anaesthetic's risks
 

 
A new study raises serious concerns about the side-effects of nitrous 
 
oxide, the gas commonly known as laughing gas and used in general anaesthetics.
 

 
An Australian-led study of more than 2,000 patients in 20 hospitals around 
 
the world has found the gas slows the recovery process and increases the 
 
rate of serious vomiting, pneumonia and wound infections after surgery.
 

 
The results have prompted calls from doctors for the gas to be phased out 
 
in anaesthetics and only be used for fast pain relief in cases such as 
 
injuries and labour pains.
 

 
One of the study's chief investigators, Associate Professor Kate Lesley 
 
from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists, says 
 
the results will make doctors more cautious about using the gas.
 

 
Some people will choose to discontinue using it, some anaesthetists, on 
 
the basis of our study, she said.
 

 
Certainly in my practice I've stopped using nitrous oxide in higher-risk 
 
patients.
 

 
The problem is that you have to replace it with something and some of the 
 
other drugs that we have to use have also got significant side-effects, so 
 
it's not cut and dried.
 

 

 
Birth complications
 

 
Through the study, nitrous oxide has been linked to serious side-effects 
 
including immune system defects and birth complications.
 

 
Despite the head of the college saying that if it was banned there would be 
 
fewer sick people, Professor Lesley says such complications are very rare.
 

 
It's probable that nitrous oxide use is still acceptable and perfectly 
 
safe in people having short-term procedures, she said.
 

 
It is important to note that it's still safe for women in labour, so women 
 
can feel confident that getting on nitrous oxide for a short period during 
 
their labour pain is not dangerous.
 

 
The gas has been used in medicine for more than 150 years but such 
 
side-effects have only now been researched.
 

 
The study is the first to find faults in such a widely used anaesthetic.
 

 
The college of anaesthetists in Australia has been successful in putting 
 
together these very large trials and carrying them out successfully, 
 
Associate Professor Lesley said.
 

 
In the past anaesthesia and surgery were very dangerous anyway and 
 
anaesthesia has become so safe now, we're refining it more and more, and 
 
more subtle problems that we have are becoming obvious.
 

 
-
 

 
Regards
 

 
Andrea
 

 
-
 
Andrea Robertson
 
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
 

 
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
web: www.birthinternational.com
 

 

 
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[ozmidwifery] Dangers of nitrous oxide

2005-05-05 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hello everyone,
The following piece is the transcript of a news item that was on the main 
ABC news last night. It has implications for women and midwives in labour 
wards - operating theatres are ventilated and well scavenged for gases, but 
labour wards may not be, unless there is active air conditioning system 
that cleans the air, and the apparatus used by the women are fitted with 
scavenger systems.

I have completed a long review article, with the help of an English 
midwife, that looks at the hazards of nitrous oxide for midwives and this 
will be published in The Practising Midwife in the June/July issue. Once it 
appears in print I will post it onto our website - it is very important 
that midwives read this, especially if nitrous oxide is used in their hospital.

Meanwhile, this is new evidence that will be useful...

Study highlights anaesthetic's risks
A new study raises serious concerns about the side-effects of nitrous 
oxide, the gas commonly known as laughing gas and used in general anaesthetics.

An Australian-led study of more than 2,000 patients in 20 hospitals around 
the world has found the gas slows the recovery process and increases the 
rate of serious vomiting, pneumonia and wound infections after surgery.

The results have prompted calls from doctors for the gas to be phased out 
in anaesthetics and only be used for fast pain relief in cases such as 
injuries and labour pains.

One of the study's chief investigators, Associate Professor Kate Lesley 
from the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists, says 
the results will make doctors more cautious about using the gas.

Some people will choose to discontinue using it, some anaesthetists, on 
the basis of our study, she said.

Certainly in my practice I've stopped using nitrous oxide in higher-risk 
patients.

The problem is that you have to replace it with something and some of the 
other drugs that we have to use have also got significant side-effects, so 
it's not cut and dried.

Birth complications
Through the study, nitrous oxide has been linked to serious side-effects 
including immune system defects and birth complications.

Despite the head of the college saying that if it was banned there would be 
fewer sick people, Professor Lesley says such complications are very rare.

It's probable that nitrous oxide use is still acceptable and perfectly 
safe in people having short-term procedures, she said.

It is important to note that it's still safe for women in labour, so women 
can feel confident that getting on nitrous oxide for a short period during 
their labour pain is not dangerous.

The gas has been used in medicine for more than 150 years but such 
side-effects have only now been researched.

The study is the first to find faults in such a widely used anaesthetic.
The college of anaesthetists in Australia has been successful in putting 
together these very large trials and carrying them out successfully, 
Associate Professor Lesley said.

In the past anaesthesia and surgery were very dangerous anyway and 
anaesthesia has become so safe now, we're refining it more and more, and 
more subtle problems that we have are becoming obvious.

-
Regards
Andrea
-
Andrea Robertson
Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.birthinternational.com
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