RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Hi,
I have. Once a wound gets infected with Staph and unless the SSD was
covered really thickly overwhelming sepsis resulted. We actually
cultured MRSA from wound exudates with the SSD. Some people where
conscious of the cost of the tubs and would skimp the application. One
could say these people would have got sepsis anyway as they were in a
tertiary ICU and they were not little burns- most over 50% partial and
full thickness. It was hot and nasty work that often required two people
in an isolation room per 8 hour shift with heaters, ventilators and
infusion pumps everywhere. Dressings were changed each shift and it
would take a complete shift to do the lot!
Oh the pleasantness of midwifery is just ... So different.
Barb
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Burgoyne
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2006 8:37 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Hi Kristin ,
SSD is silver sulphadiazine or Silvazine is the trade name.It has been
used as the treatment for burns for more than 20 years it has good
antibiotic properties and encourages moist wound healing .Have not seen
any side effects from it in 30 years of nursing. Hope this helps Lyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/12/2006 9:22 pm
I'm not sure..what is SSD cream?
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René Tiff
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Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and
maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for
years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea?
Thanks,Kristin
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RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Is it Silvazine? Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2752??PS=47575 Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Thanks Cath...My Mum remembers it from her nursing days 15-20years ago - was this around then? And doy ou know much about it? Kristin From: "A C Palmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn creamDate: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:56:05 +1000 Is it Silvazine? Cath Palmer -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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Are you referring to SSD cream? René Tiff _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, 8 December 2006 4:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2752??PS=47575 www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. attachment: image001.jpg
RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I started nursing in late 80s and Silvazine was being used then. I can remember it being used for burns on adults and children, but other than that I don't know anything else. Midwifery took over in the mid 90s and I haven't given Silvazine another thought. Cath -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:59 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream Thanks Cath...My Mum remembers it from her nursing days 15-20years ago - was this around then? And doy ou know much about it? Kristin _ From: A C Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:56:05 +1000 Is it Silvazine? Cath Palmer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2752??PS=47575 www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au http://g.msn.com/8HMAENAU/2731??PS=47575 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Hi, Don't know about that one, but Martin Pleasance, the homeopathic company make a great burn cream available at most health food outlets. Not expensive and very effective for all types of burns. Sue I started nursing in late 80s and Silvazine was being used then. I can remember it being used for burns on adults and children, but other than that I don’t know anything else. Midwifery took over in the mid 90s and I haven’t given Silvazine another thought. Cath -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kristin Beckedahl *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 6:59 PM *To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au *Subject:* RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream Thanks Cath...My Mum remembers it from her nursing days 15-20years ago - was this around then? And doy ou know much about it? Kristin From: /A C Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Reply-To: /ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/ To: /ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au/ Subject: /RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream/ Date: /Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:56:05 +1000/ Is it Silvazine? Cath Palmer -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kristin Beckedahl *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2006 4:37 PM *To:* ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au *Subject:* [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au http://g.msn.com/8HMBENAU/2752??PS=47575 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au http://g.msn.com/8HMAENAU/2731??PS=47575 __ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I'm not sure..what is SSD cream? From: "Rene and Tiffany" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn creamDate: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:55:04 +1000 Are you referring to SSD cream? René Tiff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin BeckedahlSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 4:37 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. image001.jpg Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Hi Kristin ,
SSD is silver sulphadiazine or Silvazine is the trade name.It has been used as
the treatment for burns for more than 20 years it has good antibiotic
properties and encourages moist wound healing .Have not seen any side effects
from it in 30 years of nursing.
Hope this helps
Lyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/12/2006 9:22 pm
I'm not sure..what is SSD cream?
From: Rene and Tiffany [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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René Tiff
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2006 4:37 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe
others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really
helps to rapidly heal the wounds??
Any idea?
Thanks,Kristin
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Re: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Kristin, My son was badly burned in an accident at home in February this year when the gas cylinder under the stove exploded. He was 12 at the time so not exactly a babe but the treatment I used worked wonders. I live in Singapore and after dousing him with room temp water for as long as we could, we took him to the closest hospital. The ambulance service pretty much leaves a lot to be desired here so we took him ourselves. When i got to A E found there was not one nurse or doctor who knew how to deal with burns, so we had a pink fit until they finally got containers for us to put water in and await a burns specialist. Burns adhesives were used to protect his arms and legs which had extensive second degree burns. We took him home the next day where I felt I could nurse him more effectively than was being done in hospital. After a few days the burns began to exude copious amounts of exudate - pretty disgusting stuff. It was running out of the dressings and he was getting very uncomfortable. they also did not appear to be healing at all although what i was researching seemed to be in line with his progress. I decided to switch tact completely and took the dressings off. We cleaned the wounds by running sterile water over them - did not touch but just let the water clean them. I then wet soft gauze swabs with the sterile water and squeezed out the excess water and then slatheered the swabs with manuka honey. I pured manuka honey over the wounds, then placed the gauze swabs on the top. Finally, wrapped the whole thing in crepe bandage. We would change the dressings three times a day or more often if needed. Within 24 hours there was no exudate at all and the wounds were becoming pink again. Within 72 hours he was off all pain meds and beginning to move around. I continued to redress for about seven days. Now, 10 months later, he has almost no scarring. The worst affected area was his wrist which was borderline third degree. There is no scarring there at all and full mobility in his wrist and hand. The only noticeable sign is where the hair follicles appeared to be burnt and he now has small brown marks on his lower legs - they look like odd pigmentation. I followed up with the Manuka Research unit at Waikato University and got some interesting research papers from the professor there. For us, this worked really well. There was minimal pain - redressing was only difficult when there was not enough honey on the edges of thee swabs so it stuck a little to the healing wounds. For this we just ran sterile water over it until it all softened up. I would give him pain meds about 20 minutes before we started redressing and this would help as well. The burns specialist we were seeing was impressed with his healing and told me that it was significantly more rapid and had an improved appearance compared to the dressings they used. I cannot remember the name of the dressings but it was the clear type that could allow oxygen through. I had read in several places that it was the treatment of choice but for us it was nowhere near as effective as the honey. Nikki Macfarlane Childbirth International -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
Wow, Nikki, what an amazing story! So glad your son has emerged from that traumatic experience so well. Our bodies are truly extraordinary in their ability to heal when given the right environment. Manuka honey is brilliant isn't it? It works well on grazes and labial etc tears for birthing women too. As for fire stories and remedies, I fell in the fire when I was about five years old and burnt both my hands really badly. I was sitting on a box in front of the fire, rocking. My grandmother told me I would fall in the fire if I kept rocking and of course I kept rocking and fell in. Kids are so obedient. There was no going to hospital for anything much in those days. I lived with my grandmother who was a folk healer as I guess many women of her generation were and she smothered my hands daily in a mixture of grated chalk and glycerine and put cotton socks on them. I whinged and carried on. She was resolute. She added the power of love to the mix of the chalk and glycerine together with her steadfast faith in my healing. My hands took (what seems to me) forever to heal. I have no scars on my hands at all. That power and commitment to healing and health you had in helping your son heal, and my grandmother had in my healing, is exactly what we need in every arena of life, deciding what you want, finding what works for you in the circumstances, using what you have, sticking with it, whilst seeing and holding in mind the big picture. It is profoundly effective in the consideration of our core business as midwives, childbirth educators, doulas and birthing women. It works from giving birth to changing maternity services. Thanks for sharing Nikki, all power to you and yours. warmly, Carolyn - Original Message - From: Nikki Macfarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 3:37 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream Kristin, My son was badly burned in an accident at home in February this year when the gas cylinder under the stove exploded. He was 12 at the time so not exactly a babe but the treatment I used worked wonders. I live in Singapore and after dousing him with room temp water for as long as we could, we took him to the closest hospital. The ambulance service pretty much leaves a lot to be desired here so we took him ourselves. When i got to A E found there was not one nurse or doctor who knew how to deal with burns, so we had a pink fit until they finally got containers for us to put water in and await a burns specialist. Burns adhesives were used to protect his arms and legs which had extensive second degree burns. We took him home the next day where I felt I could nurse him more effectively than was being done in hospital. After a few days the burns began to exude copious amounts of exudate - pretty disgusting stuff. It was running out of the dressings and he was getting very uncomfortable. they also did not appear to be healing at all although what i was researching seemed to be in line with his progress. I decided to switch tact completely and took the dressings off. We cleaned the wounds by running sterile water over them - did not touch but just let the water clean them. I then wet soft gauze swabs with the sterile water and squeezed out the excess water and then slatheered the swabs with manuka honey. I pured manuka honey over the wounds, then placed the gauze swabs on the top. Finally, wrapped the whole thing in crepe bandage. We would change the dressings three times a day or more often if needed. Within 24 hours there was no exudate at all and the wounds were becoming pink again. Within 72 hours he was off all pain meds and beginning to move around. I continued to redress for about seven days. Now, 10 months later, he has almost no scarring. The worst affected area was his wrist which was borderline third degree. There is no scarring there at all and full mobility in his wrist and hand. The only noticeable sign is where the hair follicles appeared to be burnt and he now has small brown marks on his lower legs - they look like odd pigmentation. I followed up with the Manuka Research unit at Waikato University and got some interesting research papers from the professor there. For us, this worked really well. There was minimal pain - redressing was only difficult when there was not enough honey on the edges of thee swabs so it stuck a little to the healing wounds. For this we just ran sterile water over it until it all softened up. I would give him pain meds about 20 minutes before we started redressing and this would help as well. The burns specialist we were seeing was impressed with his healing and told me that it was significantly more rapid and had an improved appearance compared to the dressings they used. I cannot remember the name of the dressings but it was the clear type that could allow oxygen through. I had read in several places
Re: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream
SSD is silvazine. It comes (well used to anyway) in black tubes or big tubs. It had to be kept in the fridge and was a prescription drug. When a burn patient arrived in ED. The wound was cleaned then SSD applied, non stick dressing then bandage. We used to leave it for 24 -48 hrs, then take the dressing down, debride and reapply if necessary. It was used on adults as well as children. Hope that helps Melissa - Original Message - From: Kristin Beckedahl To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm not sure..what is SSD cream? From: Rene and Tiffany [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:55:04 +1000 Are you referring to SSD cream? René Tiff From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kristin Beckedahl Sent: Friday, 8 December 2006 4:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] paed burn cream I'm trying to find out the name of the burn cream used in paed (and maybe others) wards for childrens burns - apparently been around for years and really helps to rapidly heal the wounds?? Any idea? Thanks, Kristin Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search Now! www.seek.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. image001.jpg -- Join the millions of Australians using Live Search. Try live.com.au -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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