RE: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
Just chiming in, we have three very active consumer based birth support/education groups here in Adelaide, CARES, the caesarean support group, Birth Matters SA, a more generic info group where women gather and talk about where to get good information, and how to get a good/better birth, and the Homebirth Network of SA, which has been clocking over 40 women a month at our regular coffee mornings! Not bad for a group that only 3 years ago had two or three women turning up there are small but significant communities out there, and yes, there does need to be more of a commercial feel about some of it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people think that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Hence a few of our information nights such as a waterbirth info night, attracted a lot more interest when we advertised it as $15 per couple, than when we held Birth Choices nights for freethats just how it is, and if you can charge for something, and then plough the profits back into more advertising in the mainstream, or into your library or newsletters etc, then thats great. Also agree with Barb, the ABA was a lifesaver for me with a new baby and in a remote place as a new mum Tania -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
and don't forget Tania, you run the meet a midwife sessions at naturescradle in your own time and at no cost to the consumer. When it gets established this has a great potential for helping women with birth choices. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Just chiming in, we have three very active consumer based birth support/education groups here in Adelaide, CARES, the caesarean support group, Birth Matters SA, a more generic info group where women gather and talk about where to get good information, and how to get a good/better birth, and the Homebirth Network of SA, which has been clocking over 40 women a month at our regular coffee mornings! Not bad for a group that only 3 years ago had two or three women turning up… there are small but significant communities out there, and yes, there does need to be more of a commercial feel about some of it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people think that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Hence a few of our information nights such as a waterbirth info night, attracted a lot more interest when we advertised it as $15 per couple, than when we held Birth Choices nights for free…that’s just how it is, and if you can charge for something, and then plough the profits back into more advertising in the mainstream, or into your library or newsletters etc, then that’s great. Also agree with Barb, the ABA was a lifesaver for me with a new baby and in a remote place as a new mum… Tania --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
Looks like we are all working hard together, in different ways, toward the same outcome. I believe we will get there, even if governments and policy makers only agree on a costs basis. That is why caseload is able to get off the ground in some areas. Gosford and Wyong are starting soon! Di - Original Message - From: Lisa Barrett To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story and don't forget Tania, you run the meet a midwife sessions at naturescradle in your own time and at no cost to the consumer. When it gets established this has a great potential for helping women with birth choices. Lisa Barrett - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Just chiming in, we have three very active consumer based birth support/education groups here in Adelaide, CARES, the caesarean support group, Birth Matters SA, a more generic info group where women gather and talk about where to get good information, and how to get a good/better birth, and the Homebirth Network of SA, which has been clocking over 40 women a month at our regular coffee mornings! Not bad for a group that only 3 years ago had two or three women turning up… there are small but significant communities out there, and yes, there does need to be more of a commercial feel about some of it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people think that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Hence a few of our information nights such as a waterbirth info night, attracted a lot more interest when we advertised it as $15 per couple, than when we held Birth Choices nights for free…that’s just how it is, and if you can charge for something, and then plough the profits back into more advertising in the mainstream, or into your library or newsletters etc, then that’s great. Also agree with Barb, the ABA was a lifesaver for me with a new baby and in a remote place as a new mum… Tania --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
I know of many women who really baulk at making contact with a 'group' of some sort where they need to phone in or go to a meeting place. I agree Tania, that consumer society must feel they have to pay for something for it be valuable, pretty sad, but true. I'm hoping to access those women and their families who just stumble upon the information about courses and groups by coming browsing in the 'shop' part, some people don't know what they want until it is front of them. This makes sense as, many women don't know what choices they have until they hear about others, and if birth isn't in the everyday tearoom discussions, then women just don't hear about it. Their Doctor isn't likely to tell them! Even in our public systemwomen just don't know what their choices are until they come to book in. Usually the GP asks if theyhave private health cover, if they do, they ask which OB they want to see. Most of the women's mothers just ask when they get to see the doctor! If we can get to those who don't know what to look for , then we might get somewhere. JB getting out to fetes etc is one way,and things like IWD and RTN, but I think that many of those women are already wellinformed and politically motivated. Its the others, the mainstream, that I hope to get to. When we get to them, they can then get information about different groups and maybe gain confidence to join ABA and other groups. Cheers Di - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Just chiming in, we have three very active consumer based birth support/education groups here in Adelaide, CARES, the caesarean support group, Birth Matters SA, a more generic info group where women gather and talk about where to get good information, and how to get a good/better birth, and the Homebirth Network of SA, which has been clocking over 40 women a month at our regular coffee mornings! Not bad for a group that only 3 years ago had two or three women turning up… there are small but significant communities out there, and yes, there does need to be more of a commercial feel about some of it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people think that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Hence a few of our information nights such as a waterbirth info night, attracted a lot more interest when we advertised it as $15 per couple, than when we held Birth Choices nights for free…that’s just how it is, and if you can charge for something, and then plough the profits back into more advertising in the mainstream, or into your library or newsletters etc, then that’s great. Also agree with Barb, the ABA was a lifesaver for me with a new baby and in a remote place as a new mum… Tania --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006
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Hi, I know I'm far away from you here in Finland, but this souds a bit like what I am doing. I run the biggest and trendiest maternity speciality store in our capital city. We have nice store in the very best market palce in the newiest shopping mall. Our store is quite nice with trendy maternity brands, baby wear, nursing tops, breast pumps, slings, Ergos, large selection of books etc. We have about 50-70clients in the store every day and they are mostly quite mainstream. Now we are trying to build a new service and share all this valuable birth / breastfeeding info with the parents and build a kind of community like you described.We organice info nights and send out e-letters. I am only starting this all and I'm sure there will be many things I will be asking you all about? It's great to know, that someone is already doing a similar thing so we can all learn from others. Päivi Childbirth educator Finland - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story That's right Janet, i know these online communities exist for those who seek them out or find them. What Im looking at is a physical presence in the community, where people gather, for info, friendship,access to services and advice. Iwould love granny to be doing her groceries and spot the shopfront and come in for a look at the products then find out about the services and groups etc that are available , then take her info home to her pregnant grandaughter who will share with her friends. I dont really want a retail style thing but a few product lines like slings etc to draw people in. The more in one physical community that are exposed to normal birth, the more the good stories perpetuate. Di - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Di you're describing Joyous Birth LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia regularly and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm sure : ) How lovely! J - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story That's a great article Pinky. One of my visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural birth!) Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
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What a lot of fabulous people all out there working away in different ways supporting parents! Your conceptsounds lovely Dianne. And Parvi - your shop sounds beautiful - a greatway to reach more mothers who possibly have no idea that they need to prepare for birth and motheringin any way other than buying pretty clothes or gear for baby. Any English speakers who may be interested in my new book - Sleeping Like a Baby - definitely baby and birth friendly and absolutely no controlled cryng!? Pinky www.pinky-mychild.com - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story I know of many women who really baulk at making contact with a 'group' of some sort where they need to phone in or go to a meeting place. I agree Tania, that consumer society must feel they have to pay for something for it be valuable, pretty sad, but true. I'm hoping to access those women and their families who just stumble upon the information about courses and groups by coming browsing in the 'shop' part, some people don't know what they want until it is front of them. This makes sense as, many women don't know what choices they have until they hear about others, and if birth isn't in the everyday tearoom discussions, then women just don't hear about it. Their Doctor isn't likely to tell them! Even in our public systemwomen just don't know what their choices are until they come to book in. Usually the GP asks if theyhave private health cover, if they do, they ask which OB they want to see. Most of the women's mothers just ask when they get to see the doctor! If we can get to those who don't know what to look for , then we might get somewhere. JB getting out to fetes etc is one way,and things like IWD and RTN, but I think that many of those women are already wellinformed and politically motivated. Its the others, the mainstream, that I hope to get to. When we get to them, they can then get information about different groups and maybe gain confidence to join ABA and other groups. Cheers Di - Original Message - From: Tania Smallwood To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Just chiming in, we have three very active consumer based birth support/education groups here in Adelaide, CARES, the caesarean support group, Birth Matters SA, a more generic info group where women gather and talk about where to get good information, and how to get a good/better birth, and the Homebirth Network of SA, which has been clocking over 40 women a month at our regular coffee mornings! Not bad for a group that only 3 years ago had two or three women turning up… there are small but significant communities out there, and yes, there does need to be more of a commercial feel about some of it. Unfortunately we live in a time where many people think that the more you pay for something, the more it is worth. Hence a few of our information nights such as a waterbirth info night, attracted a lot more interest when we advertised it as $15 per couple, than when we held Birth Choices nights for free…that’s just how it is, and if you can charge for something, and then plough the profits back into more advertising in the mainstream, or into your library or newsletters etc, then that’s great. Also agree with Barb, the ABA was a lifesaver for me with a new baby and in a remote place as a new mum… Tania --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 13/09/2006
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Hi Di,As far as I'm aware there's nothing like that here (but having just returned after 7 months away I could be wrong!) Anyway, it's a great idea. I've just returned from doing some relief work in the Community Midwifery Practice in Darwin which is in a block opposite a shopping centre. Often people saw the sign and wandered in. I'm sure it would get off the ground in Mackay.Cheers Michellediane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michelle, Is there anything like what Janet and I are talking about around Mackay? Do you think it might get off the ground there. I figure there are lots of bored lonley women there who's partners are away in the mines all week, and families are down south. Cheers, Di- Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth storyThat's right Janet, i know these online communities exist for those who seek them out or find them. What Im looking at is a physical presence in the community, where people gather, for info, friendship,access to services and advice. Iwould love granny to be doing her groceries and spot the shopfront and come in for a look at the products then find out about the services and groups etc that are available , then take her info home to her pregnant grandaughter who will share with her friends. I dont really want a retail style thing but a few product lines like slings etc to draw people in. The more in one physical community that are exposed to normal birth, the more the good stories perpetuate. Di- Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth storyDi you're describing Joyous Birth LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia regularly and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm sure : ) How lovely! J- Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth storyThat's a great article Pinky. One of my visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural birth!) Cheers, Di- Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth storyHi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say.http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.htmlPinky Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Dating: Get busy flirting with your 7-day free pass
[ozmidwifery] re birth story
Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
That's a great article Pinky. One of my visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural birth!) Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
How beautiful, Pinky. I love a real family birth! J - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story
Di you're describing Joyous Birth LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia regularly and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm sure : ) How lovely! J - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story That's a great article Pinky. One of my visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural birth!) Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
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Great, thats fantastic to get a public presence. I
do recall seing a thing about a meet the midwife in Melbourne. Not much of that
type of thing happening on Central coast NSW or Newcastle area.
Anyone around Mackay area know of any of these
types of groups ?
Di
- Original Message -
From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:00
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth
story
Di JB meets face to face in Sydney,
Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Hobart, Blue Mountains and Albury Wodonga.
That's definitely in the community! We go to fetes, expos, feminist occasions
like IWD and RTN, we lend books, videos, magazines and birth pools to members
and nonmembers alike. There are a couple of shops in Adelaide that are
AP-focussed and run community gatherings as well as carrying stock like
slings, hammocks, nappies etc. The "meet the midwife" days are going really
well there too!
: )
J
- Original Message -
From:
diane
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006
11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth
story
That's right Janet, i know these online
communities exist for those who seek them out or find them. What Im looking
at is a physical presence in the community, where people gather, for info,
friendship,access to services and advice. Iwould love granny to be
doing her groceries and spot the shopfront and come in for a look at the
products then find out about the services and groups etc that are available
, then take her info home to her pregnant grandaughter who will share with
her friends. I dont really want a retail style thing but a few product lines
like slings etc to draw people in. The more in one physical community that
are exposed to normal birth, the more the good stories
perpetuate.
Di
- Original Message -
From:
Janet
Fraser
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006
11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth
story
Di you're describing Joyous
Birth LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia
regularly and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm
sure : )
How lovely!
J
- Original Message -
From:
diane
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006
9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth
story
That's a great article Pinky. One of my
visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories
are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access
services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products,
to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the
Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting
things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and
hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there
in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to
be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are
doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the
country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of
NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We
need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes
part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the
'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and
all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural
birth!)
Cheers,
Di
- Original Message -
From:
Pinky McKay
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Sent: Thursday, September 14,
2006 8:52 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth
story
Hi all, I have just thought some of you
may be interested in reading my "column' about my daughters waterbirth
- it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting
a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as
they say.
http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html
Pinky
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We are in the planning stages of setting this kind of thing up here in Townsville. It is very exciting. Here is a web link for a place in San Francisco that is doing it now. http://www.naturalresources-sf.com/classes.html it is very inspiring. Cheers Philippa Scott Birth Buddies - Doula Assisting women and their families in the preparation towards childbirth and labour. President of Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of diane Sent: Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:54 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story That's right Janet, i know these online communities exist for those who seek them out or find them. What Im looking at is a physical presence in the community, where people gather, for info, friendship,access to services and advice. Iwould love granny to be doing her groceries and spot the shopfront and come in for a look at the products then find out about the services and groups etc that are available , then take her info home to her pregnant grandaughter who will share with her friends. I dont really want a retail style thing but a few product lines like slings etc to draw people in. The more in one physical community that are exposed to normal birth, the more the good stories perpetuate. Di - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Di you're describing Joyous Birth LOL. We have about 600 online members who meet all over Australia regularly and do exactly what you're talking about! But you knew this, I'm sure : ) How lovely! J - Original Message - From: diane To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] re birth story That's a great article Pinky. One of my visions is to create a community of women where positive birth stories are told. I'm hoping to develop a 'birthplace' where women can access services, classes, alternate therapies, groups, resources and products, to help change the culture at least at a local level. I attended the Calmbirth course last week, which was great. One of the most interesting things was meeting midwives and doulas from all over the country, and hearing their different stories. We have little pockets here and there in this country where natural birth and homebirth is not considered to be too radical. The culture in Melbourne is so different, there are doula's and homebirth midwives everywhere, where in other parts of the country they are unheard of! Places like Bellingen, the north coast of NSW, Toowoomba have their own little sub-cultures that are growing. We need to act locally for a sub - culture to develop, that then becomes part of a wider movement. The more positive stories that hit the 'mainstream' , the more momentum is gained. (thanks Pinky and Kelly, and all of you who vocally and publicly advocate for natural birth!) Cheers, Di - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re birth story Hi all, I have just thought some of you may be interested in reading my column' about my daughters waterbirth - it was published as one of my monthly columns in Practical Parenting a few months ago and is up on my website - every little bit helps, as they say. http://www.pinky-mychild.com/features/pregnancy/family_born.html Pinky
