RE: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies
Dear Andrea I too have been faced with the no bath policy at RPA - except there was a plug in the room - so the woman filled the bath regardless of their policy. I faced an even more serious problem at the same hospital. A woman I was caring for was booked to give birth at RPA birth centre but had heavily stained meconium liquor - so following policy we rang the labour ward and was told that they were full and we couldn't come in. We were redirected to Canterbury Hospital. When we arrived at Canterbury Hospital we were told this was the forth time this has happened and the new unit had only been open for 2 weeks at the time. Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrea Robertson Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies Remember the hoo-ha when the plugs were removed from the baths in The Royal Womens Hospital in Brisbane! Well, the silly policy season has struck again - I have just been to a birth at the new RPA Womens and Babies Hospital (was King George V) and in their labour ward they have lovely big baths but no-one is allowed to use them - it is not policy and to make sure, there are no plugs!! I've written the whole saga up in a Diary entry, http://www.birthinternational.com/diary/index.html so won't do it all again here, but be warned, if you are going to RPA, take a plug with you and be prepared for a battle! Cheers Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies
Yes, Debby, Andrea and Robyn, I will be adding this suggestion to my list in Preparing fro Biorth: Mothers and packing a universal plug (from camping and travel shops) to my birth kit. I'll be ready for them next time! Cheers Andrea At 11:07 AM 4/01/2003, Debby M wrote: Why not just advise the women to do what I did. I took my own plugs to hospital just in case there was any who-haa even though I had pre arranged for the bath to be available. As it was it wasn't an issue, but at least it means women who want to use the bath can. Debby - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies
Here Here Robyn I support you 100%, well said, yours inmidwifery pete malavisi -Original Message-From: Robyn Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 07:53To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies Happens in many places in Melbourne also.Where's the bloody plug gone? No one ever knows? The Gremlins took it? Another thing we need add to the list - onebath size plug. No point bashing our heads, just go around it. This is practice based on fearand the old ownership of the woman and facilities game perpetuating. Why are midwives calling themselves midwives if they are not strong enough, nor capable enoughto be midwives and practice midwifery with women? All the talk about accreditation for Independent Midwives??? Re education and Accreditation for ALL midwives should be the thrust starting 2003 (right now). Midwives who cannot 'deliver' midwiferyservices should remove themselves from the scene until they feel confident, instead of placing pressure on the woman to remove herself from the scene. If midwives who feel inadequate were strong enough to take up the challenge they would make it their business to update themselves in midwiferypractice or they should take the initiative and step asideleavingroom for the midwives who want to be midwives and practice the wisdom, art, skill and science of midwifery to be there with women. Keep the ball rolling Andrea. My wish before I am no longer able to practice is to see some magic changes for women who choose to birth in the system. Major changesto the systemised approach of delivering women. Someconcerted effort to give women the knowledge, to empower them and stop filling them with fear and trepidation and stop invading and abusing their bodies. Robyn -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aviva Sheb'aSent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies sounds like a caravan park. the moral of the story is: Never go anywhere without a spare bath plug! aviva - Original Message - From: Andrea Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:41 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies Remember the hoo-ha when the plugs were removed from the baths in The Royal Womens Hospital in Brisbane! Well, the silly policy season has struck again - I have just been to a birth at the new RPA Womens and Babies Hospital (was King George V) and in their labour ward they have lovely big baths but no-one is allowed to use them - it is not "policy" and to make sure, there are no plugs!!I've written the whole saga up in a Diary entry, http://www.birthinternational.com/diary/index.htmlso won't do it all again here, but be warned, if you are going to RPA, take a plug with you and be prepared for a battle!CheersAndrea-Andrea RobertsonBirth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Educatione-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]web: www.birthinternational.com--This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 25/12/02
Re: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies
Why not just advise the women to do what I did. I took my own plugs to hospital just in case there was any who-haa even though I had pre arranged for the bath to be available. As it was it wasn't an issue, but at least it means women who want to use the bath can. Debby From: Andrea Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Silly water birth policies Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:11:54 +1100 Remember the hoo-ha when the plugs were removed from the baths in The Royal Womens Hospital in Brisbane! Well, the silly policy season has struck again - I have just been to a birth at the new RPA Womens and Babies Hospital (was King George V) and in their labour ward they have lovely big baths but no-one is allowed to use them - it is not "policy" and to make sure, there are no plugs!! I've written the whole saga up in a Diary entry, http://www.birthinternational.com/diary/index.html so won't do it all again here, but be warned, if you are going to RPA, take a plug with you and be prepared for a battle! Cheers Andrea - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
