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islips wrote: I agree totally with you Gloria. I managed to put on 16kg's with both my pregnancies and had GDM. I am very careful with what I feed my two children as I am very aware of their risk factors for developing type 2 diabetes later in life. My 2 1/2 year old loves vegetables and fruit. If we have a 'special treat' she will pick fruit juice over chocolates / lollies etc. Some of my friends are amazed that my 8 month olds favorite food is lentils!!! Some of my friends have only fed their children tinned food from the very beginning. it is unfortunate that buying organic is so expensive. zoe We are just starting to feed Will solids now - he's 6 months and 1 week today. We have discovered an organic porridge and organic rice cereal, and organic teething rusks. They are not expensive - $3.19 per pk. As for the other stuff.. I know you can get organic bananas in the supermarket, too. But anything other than these basics, and yes, it is harder to find and more expensive :( Jo
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hi all I dont think finding organic is very hard at all, yes it is sometimes a lot more expensive but often only a little bit. Coles has a whole new range of organic products which contains nearly everything - wheat bix, olive oil, fruit and vegies, nuts, pasta sauces, pasta, eggs, flour, sugar, even tomato sauceetc etc. Many things in the organic section of supermarkets arent much more expensive eg potatoes, sweet potatoes, capsicums... i think if you can stretch even for a few items its well worth it and the taste difference is incredible. We are just starting to feed Will solids now - he's 6 months and 1 week today. We have discovered an organic porridge and organic rice cereal, and organic teething rusks. They are not expensive - $3.19 per pk. As ! for the other stuff.. I know you can get organic bananas in the supermarket, too. But anything other than these basics, and yes, it is harder to find and more expensive :(Jo Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe - Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity growing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity This is an "I remember" tale... I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport. Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard
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hi yeh thats really true. with this method though its all above ground in boxes so you can purchase organic soil and fertilisers and buy organic seeds and then be sure that theyre nasty-free emilyislips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe- Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesitygrowing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J- Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityThis is an "I remember" tale...I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport.Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about! healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad.With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au- Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.htmlPrint this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who f! ollowed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive h! ealth, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's
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hi yeh thats really true. with this method though its all above ground in boxes so you can purchase organic soil and fertilisers and buy organic seeds and then be sure that theyre nasty-free emilyislips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my biggest concern about growing my own vegtables is that i dont know the history of he soil where we live. zoe- Original Message - From: Emily To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesitygrowing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J- Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityThis is an "I remember" tale...I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport.Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about! healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad.With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au- Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.htmlPrint this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who f! ollowed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive h! ealth, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian Yahoo! PersonalsSingle? There's
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Title: Message Isn't it sad to have to counsel a woman breastfeeding her 4 day old baby who expressed her worry that her baby will be too fat because of the frequent breast feeding when I did a home visit last Thursday! May I remind people we are who we are and genetics will be the major determinants of your features big, small or otherwise!!! Genetics also are a major influence on the development of T2 Diabetes no matter how 'clever' you may be in watching your diet and exercise balance. I envisage I will cringe when I see the Nazi Police at the checkout soon, if it isn't happening already. Barb -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of islipsSent: Saturday, 3 December 2005 11:26 AMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity I agree totally with you Gloria. I managed to put on 16kg's with both my pregnancies and had GDM. I am very careful with what I feed my two children as I am very aware of their risk factors for developing type 2 diabetes later in life. My 2 1/2 year old loves vegetables and fruit. If we have a 'special treat' she will pick fruit juice over chocolates / lollies etc. Some of my friends are amazed that my 8 month olds favorite food is lentils!!! Some of my friends have only fed their children tinned food from the very beginning. it is unfortunate that buying organic is so expensive. zoe - Original Message - From: Gloria Lemay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity How much weight gain is irrelevant. All the work on this has been done and is reported in "What Every Pregnant Woman should Know About Diet and Drugs in Pregnancy". The question is always "What are you eating?" The quality of the diet is everything. Women can gain more than 16 kg and have healthy slim children, IF they are eating food. By food, I mean "as close to what Mother Nature put in the ground as possible". Americans can study pregnant women till they're blue in the face and it won't make a difference. Processed food, high carb pasta, and baked goods are all some women eat. Washed down with fruit juice and soft drinks---it's a recipe for putting on weight, high bp, and swollen extremities. Then, when the child is born, they feed it formula, canned baby food full of preservatives, and more fruit juice. So many women will say "my child doesn't eat vegetables". Vegetables are essential to good health. You don't get to not like them. I'm so alarmed when I see what young people have in their shopping carts here in N. America. My daughter is going to college and she has managed to change the dietary habits of many of her class mates because they're intrigued when she opens her lunch and starts eating salads, a boiled egg, beans/cheese/corn tortilla, and fresh fruit. She tells them "You just have to change your palate and then you'll like this stuff, too." Gloria - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or excessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5k
Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity
How much weight gain is irrelevant. All the work on this has been done and is reported in "What Every Pregnant Woman should Know About Diet and Drugs in Pregnancy". The question is always "What are you eating?" The quality of the diet is everything. Women can gain more than 16 kg and have healthy slim children, IF they are eating food. By food, I mean "as close to what Mother Nature put in the ground as possible". Americans can study pregnant women till they're blue in the face and it won't make a difference. Processed food, high carb pasta, and baked goods are all some women eat. Washed down with fruit juice and soft drinks---it's a recipe for putting on weight, high bp, and swollen extremities. Then, when the child is born, they feed it formula, canned baby food full of preservatives, and more fruit juice. So many women will say "my child doesn't eat vegetables". Vegetables are essential to good health. You don't get to not like them. I'm so alarmed when I see what young people have in their shopping carts here in N. America. My daughter is going to college and she has managed to change the dietary habits of many of her class mates because they're intrigued when she opens her lunch and starts eating salads, a boiled egg, beans/cheese/corn tortilla, and fresh fruit. She tells them "You just have to change your palate and then you'll like this stuff, too." Gloria - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or excessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive health, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian
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This is an "I remember" tale... I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport. Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or excessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive health, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian
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I agree totally with you Gloria. I managed to put on 16kg's with both my pregnancies and had GDM. I am very careful with what I feed my two children as I am very aware of their risk factors for developing type 2 diabetes later in life. My 2 1/2 year old loves vegetables and fruit. If we have a 'special treat' she will pick fruit juice over chocolates / lollies etc. Some of my friends are amazed that my 8 month olds favorite food is lentils!!! Some of my friends have only fed their children tinned food from the very beginning. it is unfortunate that buying organic is so expensive. zoe - Original Message - From: Gloria Lemay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity How much weight gain is irrelevant. All the work on this has been done and is reported in "What Every Pregnant Woman should Know About Diet and Drugs in Pregnancy". The question is always "What are you eating?" The quality of the diet is everything. Women can gain more than 16 kg and have healthy slim children, IF they are eating food. By food, I mean "as close to what Mother Nature put in the ground as possible". Americans can study pregnant women till they're blue in the face and it won't make a difference. Processed food, high carb pasta, and baked goods are all some women eat. Washed down with fruit juice and soft drinks---it's a recipe for putting on weight, high bp, and swollen extremities. Then, when the child is born, they feed it formula, canned baby food full of preservatives, and more fruit juice. So many women will say "my child doesn't eat vegetables". Vegetables are essential to good health. You don't get to not like them. I'm so alarmed when I see what young people have in their shopping carts here in N. America. My daughter is going to college and she has managed to change the dietary habits of many of her class mates because they're intrigued when she opens her lunch and starts eating salads, a boiled egg, beans/cheese/corn tortilla, and fresh fruit. She tells them "You just have to change your palate and then you'll like this stuff, too." Gloria - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 2:19 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or excessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive health, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian
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I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoid obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J - Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity This is an "I remember" tale... I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport. Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad. With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au - Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.html Print this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or excessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive health, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian
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growing organic food isnt expensive though, its really cheap and teaches kids so much about eating food that is freshstraight from the earth - not a can or microwave haha. you can grow enough vegetables for a family by rotating and replanting as you need.i havent tried this technique but it sounds great (www.squarefootgardening.com) sorry this isnt directly relevant, but if it helps grow healthy families andchildrenand save money and the earths resources then i guess it is ! love emilyJanet Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it deeply unsatisfactory because we know that breastfeeding is the way to avoi! d obesity and yet we don't promote bf as part of the package. There's no mention in this of whether or not the mothers or children were bf to WHO guidelines. J- Original Message - From: brendamanning To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesity This is an "I remember" tale...I would really hate us to go back to those days of obsessive weighing of women them dreading the weekly pregnancy check because they'd be 'told off' for gaining weight. Some women even used it as an excuse not to attend pregnancy checks at all, especially the bigger women who we know are high risk. Those were awful times where women were treated like naughty girls instead of responsible women who ought to be deciding (with the appropriate info)what's bestfor the health of themselves their baby. There is always a 'policeman' with theweighing system, usually it's the ! weigher (ie the midwife) no one likes them, it's verybad for mother/midwife rapport.Educating the mothers re healthy diets is the key as that's why they gained the excessweight initiallyduring pregnancy, (unhealthy eating patterns)unless they were underweight when they became pregnant ( very common with the 'lolly-pop' look nowadays). So they need education about healthy food choices after weaning from the breast for their children. Just my 2c worth, I hated with a passion hearing women worrying about: 'putting on too much weight, the doctor will tell me off'. It's s demeaning ! They aren't naughty school girls it reinforces that patriarchal"doctor is God' handing down sentences orderstriad.With kind regardsBrenda Manning www.themidwife.com.au- Original Message - From: Helen and Graham To: ozmidwifery Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] fetal path to obesityhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17432980%255E23289,00.htmlPrint this page Fetal path to adult obesityClara Pirani02dec05PREGNANT women who gain too much weight under the guise of "eating for two" may be guaranteeing their children have a lifelong battle with obesity.Two studies that will be published in next week's New Scientist journal found women who gain too much weight during pregnancy are far more likely to have overweight or obese children. One study, from a team at Harvard University in the US, found that even women who followed their doctor's advice and gained a "safe" amount of weight were still likely to have overweight children. The Harvard study divided 770 expectant mothers into three groups - those who gained an "inadequate", "adequate" and "excessive" amount of weight - based on the US Institute of Medicine's guidelines that women should gain between 12kg and 16kg. Children born to women who gained an adequate or ex! cessive amount of weight were, on average, already overweight by the age of three. "Only the inadequate group - a weight gain of less than 11.5kg - gives a result that is where you want to be," Harvard University researcher Matthew Gillman said. Researchers believe that during gestation the baby's metabolism - including the hunger and satiety signals that tell people when to stop eating - is still developing and babies become accustomed to having too much food. Julie Owens, a researcher at the University of Adelaide's centre for reproductive health, said that while there was no exact guide to how much weight a women should gain, it was important women did not use pregnancy as an excuse to overeat. privacy terms © The Australian Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Yahoo! Personals
