Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip dysplasia. Itcould be possiblethat if you swaddle with disposable nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this. - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Hi Marijke, Yes I have heard this same information I had a lovely chiropractor come through my classes here at home and after each session she would stay back and we would talk for quite some time about chiropracty and babies babies backs should be well supported when held and carried babies should not be held up by their ankles for nappy changing as this applies too much pressure to the upper spine and neck best to avoid holding babies with hands under armpits and thumbs across chest and fingers either side of the spine a common way to hold babies to life them in and out of things like bath etc. Best to support well with an open generous hand across the shoulders and neck with the other hand across supporting the hips and bottom to lift. Its wonderful to run groups and meet these amazing people and learn lots from them since she came through I have adapted her ideas into my sessions and interestingly the couples often make comments like yes that makes logical sense they ask why does everyone do it the other way and I reply because thats how its been done for a long time and people learn by copying and will keep doing it without question just because everyone else does it that way but really we should question everything Warm hug to all Julie Julie Clarke Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner ACE Grad Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer NACE National Journal Editor Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 Telephone 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] visit Julie's website: www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Marijke Eastaugh Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2005 6:24 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip dysplasia. Itcould be possiblethat if you swaddle with disposable nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this. - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
That was the message from the info I read - if there is a predisposition to hip dysplasia, swaddling with the legs firmly together will not help. Whereas having their legs in a frog like position can help the hips form properly. Apparently the African mothers who have their newborn babies sitting on their hipin those sling kind of things have virtually no cases of hip dysplasia. Obviously if there are no risk factors a tight swaddle won't hurt, but like inlots cases of late diagnosis' the mums were unaware of a family history or other risk factors wer not present. It might be interesting to ask my orthopeadic (spelling?) surgeon to see his thoughts on this. One US ortho states swaddling can lead to waddling. I guess it's food for thought. Kylie From: "Marijke Eastaugh" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:53:47 +0930 This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip dysplasia. Itcould be possiblethat if you swaddle with disposable nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this. - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Congenital hip dysplasia now known as developmental hip dysplasia by many due to the litigation cases in the US. Kylie From: "Dorothy Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:53:40 +1000 Sorry what is CHD please excuse my ignorance Dot Thomas -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Hi Brenda, Just a few links below with info about the higher rates of CDH where babies are swaddled. I can't recall now where I read that it is unheard of in some places,perhaps in an old newspaper article I found on the web?? http://www.orthoseek.com/articles/hipdys.html http://www.aafp.org/afp/990700ap/177.html http://www.emedicine.com/orthoped/topic456.htm From: "brendamanning" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:32:28 +1000 Hi Kylie, Please don't blame yourself for a missed diagnosis. You have a family history this problem was present in all probability at birth. I'd be very interested though to read the data which stated CDH is unheard of in "other cultures" where swaddling isn't practised. Does this mean the Inuit the traditional American Indians (papoose) have a high proportion of CDH? Brenda - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
ood on you for asking the question. Phil Barker, a fantastic Mental Health Nurse Professor quoted his dad who said that "life was an answer waiting for the right question". We have to keep asking them (questions)and challenge everything we think is right and proper. midwifery hugs, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 4:57 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Congenital hip dysplasia now known as developmental hip dysplasia by many due to the litigation cases in the US. Kylie From: "Dorothy Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:53:40 +1000 Sorry what is CHD please excuse my ignorance Dot Thomas -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
ation and done a lot of thingsthat are plain wrong, counter productive and often downright dangerous - I can think of a million examples - the number of episiotomies I cut in my hey day for example, - the biggest question was whether they should be cut at maximum stretch or whether infilration of local anaesthetic was needed first!! The thought that they (episiotomies) may not have been needed at all was never even thought of! For me, it was only when I saw "Birth in the Squatting Position"and the women birthed without even a tear that my world changed in front of my eyes!!! So good on you for asking the question. Phil Barker, a fantastic Mental Health Nurse Professor quoted his dad who said that "life was an answer waiting for the right question". We have to keep asking them (questions)and challenge everything we think is right and proper. midwifery hugs, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 4:57 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Congenital hip dysplasia now known as developmental hip dysplasia by many due to the litigation cases in the US. Kylie From: "Dorothy Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:53:40 +1000 Sorry what is CHD please excuse my ignorance Dot Thomas -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Kylie Carberry wrote: Thanks Carolyn! I have been reading some more this afternoon and found a few interesting bits about the risks of swaddling when their is a genetic predisposition involved. Their was one study done in Qatar which was particularly interesting. The results of the study led medical professionals to advise against it. With Poppy now in a spica for the next 10 weeks I really need to move on, but I am keen to learn as much as I can about the condition. Kylie I swaddle my 4 month old boy, but only the arms... the legs can do what they want until they learn to knock the dummy out of his mouth ;) He's learning now to not only take it out, but to try to put it back in with his hands... but he can't put it back in the right way yet. Until he can, we'll all sleep better if his arms are restrained for getting to sleep. :) Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Congenital Hip Displacement "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Dorothy Thomas To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Sorry what is CHD please excuse my ignorance Dot Thomas -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 5/10/2005
Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Hi Kylie, Please don't blame yourself for a missed diagnosis. You have a family history this problem was present in all probability at birth. I'd be very interested though to read the data which stated CDH is unheard of in "other cultures" where swaddling isn't practised. Does this mean the Inuit the traditional American Indians (papoose) have a high proportion of CDH? Brenda - Original Message - From: Kylie Carberry To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling
Sorry what is CHD please excuse my ignorance Dot Thomas -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Kylie CarberrySent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:09 PMTo: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auSubject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH. We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling. I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers. Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing. I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of. As midwives,what are everyones thought? Kylie Carberry -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
