RE: centralised EFM.
Dear Carol The Delivery Suite in which I work has a centralised EFM station with an alert system. I asked the MUH for information and she gave me a website for the User's Group of Obstetric Tracevue. It is http://www.obtracevue-ug.com www.obtracevue-ug.com I just visited it and doesn't seem particularly helpful, but if you email them they may be able to give you some references/research articles (sponsored by Hewlitt-Packard no doubt - oops, I'm getting cynical!). One article (whose language in the title says it all) may be a starting point: Keith, RD et al, A multicenter comparative study of 17 experts and an intelligent computer system for managing labor using the cardiotocogram, Br J Obstet Gynaecol 1995, 102: 688-700. Hope this helps and apologies for the delay in responding. Cheers Bec -- From: Carol Thorogood Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2001 21:15 To: Ozmidwifery List Subject: Re: centralised EFM. Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: centralised EFM.
Carol, I am a consumer not a midwife but i have recently been reading Marsden Wagner's Pursuing the Birth Machine (1994). Although t is a bit dated now, it contains discussion of EFM and its efficacy with references to scientific studies as at 1994. regards, Barb From: Carol Thorogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Carol Thorogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:15:00 +0930 To: Ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: centralised EFM. Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: centralised EFM.
Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: centralised EFM.
Ho Carol - good to know you are still out there! Another reason not to be with or to touch the woman. There was a woman I was speaking to the other day and she was unhappy about the fact that when she went to her ob, he literally never laid his hands on her - Scanned her belly, did her BP and that was it. She wondered if he thought she had girl germs (as my sons would say). Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Carol Thorogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: Re: centralised EFM. Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: centralised EFM.
Hi Carol, Try contacting the private hospital maternity units. I know the Sydney Adventist Hospital and North Shore Private have the consoles where you can read a trace from another source. You could even set them up to read whilst up at the bedside of another patient. They were excellent at reducing the motivation to actually go into a labouring woman's room! Why bother? The legal system is busy telling us the ctg is 'neccesary' for quality patient care, so there we are... I would say efficacy is reduced, not increased. :-) Also , try Corometrics. I saw their display on a conference at the weekend and they were displaying exactly that, the multi system screen. Robin - Original Message - From: Carol Thorogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ozmidwifery List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: Re: centralised EFM. Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: centralised EFM.
Good to hear from you Carol. You're asking for efficacy of the monitor? It just means there doesn't have to be a midwife in the room with the woman, doesn't it? I saw the central monitor bank system in use in Michigan in about 95. Went back to visit the hospital where 3 of mine had been born (and where the birth activist was born, I think). The OB nurse told me that if a baby was about to be born, and the doctor was not present, no nurse would stay in the room with a woman - they couldn't take that sort of responsibility. I feel great sadness at that thought. We mustn't let that happen here. Joy -Original Message- From: Carol Thorogood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM To: Ozmidwifery List Subject:Re: centralised EFM. Hi all Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet! Does anyone have any info or know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM in 'delivery' suites? I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please. Carol PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.