RE: centralised EFM.

2001-08-14 Thread Clinical Learning Coordinator

Dear Carol

The Delivery Suite in which I work has a centralised EFM station with an
alert system. I asked the MUH for information and she gave me a website for
the User's Group of Obstetric Tracevue. It is
http://www.obtracevue-ug.com www.obtracevue-ug.com
I just visited it and doesn't seem particularly helpful, but if you email
them they may be able to give you some references/research articles
(sponsored by Hewlitt-Packard no doubt - oops, I'm getting cynical!). One
article (whose language in the title says it all) may be a starting point:
Keith, RD et al, A multicenter comparative study of 17 experts and an
intelligent computer system for managing labor using the cardiotocogram, Br
J Obstet Gynaecol 1995, 102: 688-700.

Hope this helps and apologies for the delay in responding.

Cheers
Bec

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From:  Carol Thorogood
Sent:  Tuesday, 7 August 2001 21:15
To:  Ozmidwifery List
Subject:  Re: centralised EFM.


Hi all
Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any
info or
know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with
centralised EFM
in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where
there is
a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors
are
linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen
goes red if
the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature
searches and
can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.

Carol

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Re: centralised EFM.

2001-08-08 Thread Vernon at Stringybark

Carol,

I am a consumer not a midwife but i have recently been reading Marsden
Wagner's Pursuing the Birth Machine (1994).  Although t is a bit dated now,
it contains discussion of EFM and its efficacy with references to scientific
studies as at 1994.

regards, Barb 

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 Subject: Re: centralised EFM.
 
 
 Hi all
 Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any info or
 know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM
 in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is
 a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are
 linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if
 the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and
 can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.
 
 Carol
 
 PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy.
 
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Re: centralised EFM.

2001-08-07 Thread Carol Thorogood


Hi all
Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any info or
know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM
in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is
a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are
linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if
the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and
can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.

Carol

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Re: centralised EFM.

2001-08-07 Thread DL Staff

Ho Carol - good to know you are still out there! Another reason not to be
with or to touch the woman. There was a woman I was speaking to the other
day and  she was unhappy about the fact that when she went to her ob, he
literally never laid his hands on her - Scanned her belly, did her BP and
that was it. She wondered if he thought she had girl germs (as my sons
would say). Regards, Lynne
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From: Carol Thorogood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: centralised EFM.



 Hi all
 Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any info or
 know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised
EFM
 in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there
is
 a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are
 linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red
if
 the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches
and
 can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.

 Carol

 PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy.

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Re: centralised EFM.

2001-08-07 Thread Robin Moon

Hi Carol,

Try contacting the private hospital maternity units. I know the Sydney Adventist 
Hospital and North
Shore Private have the consoles where you can read a trace from another source. You 
could even set
them up to read whilst up at the bedside of another patient.

They were excellent at reducing the motivation to actually go into a labouring woman's 
room! Why
bother? The legal system is busy telling us the ctg is 'neccesary' for quality patient 
care, so
there we are... I would say efficacy is reduced, not increased. :-)

Also , try Corometrics. I saw their display on a conference at the weekend and they 
were displaying
exactly that, the multi system screen.

Robin

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Subject: Re: centralised EFM.



 Hi all
 Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any info or
 know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM
 in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is
 a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are
 linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red if
 the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches and
 can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.

 Carol

 PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy.

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RE: centralised EFM.

2001-08-07 Thread Johnston

Good to hear from you Carol.
You're asking for efficacy of the monitor?  It just means there doesn't 
have to be a midwife in the room with the woman, doesn't it?
I saw the central monitor bank system in use in Michigan in about 95.  Went 
back to visit the hospital where 3 of mine had been born (and where the 
birth activist was born, I think).  The OB nurse told me that if a baby was 
about to be born, and the doctor was not present, no nurse would stay in 
the room with a woman - they couldn't take that sort of responsibility.  I 
feel great sadness at that thought.  We mustn't let that happen here.
Joy
-Original Message-
From:   Carol Thorogood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:45 PM
To: Ozmidwifery List
Subject:Re: centralised EFM.


Hi all
Yes I am still around, just ever so quiet!  Does anyone have any info or
know where I can get it or does anyone have experience with centralised EFM
in 'delivery' suites?  I need to know about the sorts of EFM where there is
a console in the office or somewhere to which all the fetal monitors are
linked up. Apparently the monitor 'reads' the EFM and the screen goes red 
if
the trace goes off. The mid students and I have done literature searches 
and
can't find anything about its efficacy. Help, please.

Carol

PS That's a loverly mat coalition website Joy.

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