Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
In response to these postings. I just want to let you know howdifficultthe midwives who work at Clayton are finding these changes. We are working under considerable pressure and feeling frustrated and sad that women are now faced with such awful birth experiences. Many of the midwives from Moorabbin chose not to come to Clayton, a very sad indictment of how they feel about the systemthere. I know there is a great deal of anger withing the community, but please be aware that there are many midwives here that feel the same way as you. Sally
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
Sally Are all or at least some of the disheartened midwives and those in the community combining or joining MC to add to the existingground swell to change the vested situation in Melbourne ??? Like a rope it is stronger and can move heavier(in this case more entrenched loads) the more twines which combine to create the total pull?? Denise - Original Message - From: sally To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne) In response to these postings. I just want to let you know howdifficultthe midwives who work at Clayton are finding these changes. We are working under considerable pressure and feeling frustrated and sad that women are now faced with such awful birth experiences. Many of the midwives from Moorabbin chose not to come to Clayton, a very sad indictment of how they feel about the systemthere. I know there is a great deal of anger withing the community, but please be aware that there are many midwives here that feel the same way as you. Sally
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
Dear Sally and everyone who is involved or affected by these closures - This is going to sound really negative and dramatic, but I can't help feeling that until the tragedies caused by these closures are publicised the health system (read Government) won't make any efforts to change things or to introduce NMAP. The problem is being exacerbated by the shortage of obstetricians and their unwillingness to work unsocial hours, their need for a diverse practice and of course, their need to earn enough money. To attract doctors to obstetrics, they are being encouraged to work in the larger units where they can be guaranteed enough work in both obstets and gynae. They also need enough clients to cover their insurance costs (although these are subsidised). The solution the health system has adopted is to concentrate births in units where there are at least 500 births per year. Perhaps if we could find some disaster stories or women willing to publicise the poor outcomes they received because they were subjected to the medical model of care, we could interest the media in blowing the cover off this appalling situation. If we could go to the media with a list of specific near misses, actual cases, and angry women, this might help. It should certainly be appealing to the shock jocks. All of you midwives working in hospitals could quickly accumulate such a list, and perhaps even approach some of the women concerned to tell their stories. Publicising (what about releasing a photocopy the incident book?) some of the adverse events might underline what is going on. All these events must be reported somewhere, and if copies fell off the back of a truck then that could be useful to Maternity Coalition or whoever else wants to take this on. It is only because we never hear of the bad stories about hospitals that people think all is well. Please be assured I am not wanting to demonise midwives but would rather want to paint them as the unwilling victims of all this as well What do people think? Andrea At 10:36 PM 20/01/2004, sally wrote: In response to these postings. I just want to let you know how difficult the midwives who work at Clayton are finding these changes. We are working under considerable pressure and feeling frustrated and sad that women are now faced with such awful birth experiences. Many of the midwives from Moorabbin chose not to come to Clayton, a very sad indictment of how they feel about the system there. I know there is a great deal of anger withing the community, but please be aware that there are many midwives here that feel the same way as you. Sally - Andrea Robertson Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.birthinternational.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
Okay guys, I guess it's about time I considered joining the Maternity Coalition. Just thought I should first check the level of commitment that is expected. Can an active member give me some idea? Cas? Have just given up home schooling three of my five children so I've a little extra time now. TIA, Sonia W. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
Sonia As little or as much as you can! We no doubt welcome close to the latter, but then again the more we get the less the load!! Are you in Victoria? Let me know and I will put you in touch with the local president. Justine Caines National President Maternity Coalition Inc PO Box 105 MERRIWA NSW 2329 Ph: (02) 65482248 Mob: 0408 210273 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay guys, I guess it's about time I considered joining the Maternity Coalition. Just thought I should first check the level of commitment that is expected. Can an active member give me some idea? Cas? Have just given up home schooling three of my five children so I've a little extra time now. TIA, Sonia W. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne) Well said Justine Diane
Re: [ozmidwifery] closure of Moorabin birth centre (Melbourne)
I didn't know the Moorabbin Birthing centre was closing. That is disgusting. First Clayton and now Moorabbin. Who are the smart powers of be who think they know more about birthing than the people who need those facilities. What are they doing? Birthing in corridors for goodness sake. Is it becomingthat birth is just another shoof em in and shoof em out event, NEXT? Next thing you know they will just be mixed in with the general hospital poplation. Not so unlikely now is it? This makes it even more important to put women back in charge of their birthing soTHEY will denote what they want. For goodness sake! And we wonder why so many women are now turning back to home births. Who can blame them. Diane
