Re: [Pacemaker] problem about move node from one cluster to another cluster

2010-10-19 Thread Andrew Beekhof
 how does this fit the release schedule?

The short answer is that it doesn't.
 
The community generally does a pretty good job, heartbeat2 was a dead end that 
was put out of its misery years ago[1] and openais 0.80 was something like 5 
years old when pacemaker started supporting it.  Pacemaker 1.0 itself is almost 
3 years old now iirc. 

But long term support will always be hole that enterprise vendors fill with 
products like sles, rhel and ubuntu LTS.

With limited resources, projects need to choose their battles.
We can't be everything to everyone, so we let the enterprise distress do what 
they do best while we concentrate on improving the core software.


[1] there were also unique circumstances that necessitated killing hb2 early

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On 13 Oct 2010, at 13:37, Dan Frincu dfri...@streamwide.ro wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Yes, it sometime needs to be killed manually because the process hangs and 
 the restart operation never seems to end. Yet another reason to upgrade.
 
 All,
 
 Question: given the fact that this type of software usually gets installed on 
 a platform once and then usually goes into service for many years, on servers 
 where downtime should be kept to a minimum (gee, that's why you use a cluster 
 :)), how does this fit the release schedule? 
 
 I mean, there are plenty of users out there with question related to 
 Heartbeat 2, openais-0.8.0, and so on and so forth, some environments cannot 
 be changed lightly, others, not at all, so what is the response to this 
 feature doesn't work on that version of software?, upgrade? If so, at what 
 interval (keeping in mind that you probably want the stable packages on your 
 system)?
 
 I'm asking this because when I started working with openais, the latest 
 version available was 0.8.0 on some SUSE repos that aren't available anymore.
 
 Regards,
 
 Dan
 
 jiaju liu wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Depending on the openais version (please mention it)
  
 Hi
 Thank you for your reply my openais version is openais-0.80.5-15.1
 pacemaker version is pacemaker-1.0.5-4.1.
 I use restart but it does not work. I found it could not stop
  
  
 this behavior could 
 happen, I've seen it as well, on openais-0.8.0. What I've done to fix it 
 was to restart the openais process via /etc/init.d/openais restart. And 
 then it worked, however, this was one of the reasons I updated the 
 packages to the latest versions of corosync, pacemaker, etc. The tricky 
 part was doing the migration procedure for upgrading production servers  

 without service downtime, but that's another story.
 
 
  
 
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 Systems Engineer
 CCNA, RHCE
 Streamwide Romania
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Re: [Pacemaker] problem about move node from one cluster to another cluster

2010-10-13 Thread jiaju liu


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Hi,

Depending on the openais version (please mention it) 
 
Hi Thank you for your reply my openais version is openais-0.80.5-15.1
pacemaker version is pacemaker-1.0.5-4.1.
I use restart but it does not work. I found it could not stop
 
 
this behavior could 
happen, I've seen it as well, on openais-0.8.0. What I've done to fix it 
was to restart the openais process via /etc/init.d/openais restart. And 
then it worked, however, this was one of the reasons I updated the 
packages to the latest versions of corosync, pacemaker, etc. The tricky 
part was doing the migration procedure for upgrading production servers 
without service downtime, but that's another story.

Regards,

Dan

jiaju liu wrote:



 


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Re: [Pacemaker] problem about move node from one cluster to another cluster

2010-10-13 Thread Dan Frincu

Hi,

Yes, it sometime needs to be killed manually because the process hangs 
and the restart operation never seems to end. Yet another reason to upgrade.


All,

Question: given the fact that this type of software usually gets 
installed on a platform once and then usually goes into service for many 
years, on servers where downtime should be kept to a minimum (gee, 
that's why you use a cluster :)), how does this fit the release schedule?


I mean, there are plenty of users out there with question related to 
Heartbeat 2, openais-0.8.0, and so on and so forth, some environments 
cannot be changed lightly, others, not at all, so what is the response 
to this feature doesn't work on that version of software?, upgrade? If 
so, at what interval (keeping in mind that you probably want the stable 
packages on your system)?


I'm asking this because when I started working with openais, the latest 
version available was 0.8.0 on some SUSE repos that aren't available 
anymore.


Regards,

Dan

jiaju liu wrote:

Hi,

Depending on the openais version (please mention it)
 
Hi

Thank you for your reply my openais version is openais-0.80.5-15.1
pacemaker version is pacemaker-1.0.5-4.1.
I use restart but it does not work. I found it could not stop
 
 
this behavior could

happen, I've seen it as well, on openais-0.8.0. What I've done to fix it
was to restart the openais process via /etc/init.d/openais restart. And
then it worked, however, this was one of the reasons I updated the
packages to the latest versions of corosync, pacemaker, etc. The tricky
part was doing the migration procedure for upgrading production servers
without service downtime, but that's another story.


  


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Systems Engineer
CCNA, RHCE
Streamwide Romania

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[Pacemaker] problem about move node from one cluster to another cluster

2010-10-11 Thread jiaju liu
hi everybody
I use command crm openais stop first to stop openais service and then use rm 
-rf /var/lib/heartbear/crm/*  clear all information. then change multicast and 
start it in another cluster.
the problem is sometimes it works I can use crm_mon command. and sometimes it 
doesn't work. I use service openais status. It shows Running. but I can not use 
crm_mon to connect to cluster. 
I found the reason may be directory /var/lib/heartbear/crm/ is empty. why??if I 
reboot ,it works again.WHY


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