Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Toni
Am Freitag, 30. Dezember 2011 schrieb Detlef Reichelt:
 Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100

 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
  OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...

 Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:

 187 packages
 141 build errors

 Oh, great repository!

 Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
 forget...

+1


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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Guido Berhoerster
* Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de [2011-12-30 23:06]:
 Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100
 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
 
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
  OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...
 
 Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:
 
 187 packages
 141 build errors
 
 Oh, great repository!
 
 Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
 forget...

Removing a package without contacting the maintainer is certainly
not appropriate behavior, however, claws-mail seems to have been
in Factory forever, why was there even a separate Packman
package? I'd also argue that the shape of the development project
doesn't matter, people can get it either through the oss repo of
a released version or through Tumbleweed/Factory if they want to
live on the bleeding edge.

But more generally it would be helpful if there was some
consensus among Packman contributors what the scope of Packman
actually should be. Currently everyone seems to have a different
perception of that and things have changed considerably since the
project was founded.
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Guido Berhoerster
* Marc Schiffbauer m...@schiffbauer.net [2011-12-30 21:44]:
 * Mariusz Fik schrieb am 30.12.11 um 18:47 Uhr:
  
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main OSS. 
  Even it was hosted by packman for years...
 
 Why?

Why not, why shouldn't such packages (excluding patented/non-free
software or games) be part of the main distribution, ie. what
keeps you from maintaining them on OBS and getting them into
Factory which means additional reviews and handlying of security
issues in released products by the security team?
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Jonathan Hooverman
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:22:10 +0100
wrote Smartysmart34 smartysmar...@web.de:


 Packman used to be THE one stop shop for everything that mattered
 besides the main Repo (by MAIN I mean the setup repos OSS and Non-OSS,
 not OBS)
 
I could not have described this more accurate. Started loving Linux
with SuSE Linux 7.3 and whenever I did not find a package in OSS or
non-OSS I went to the de-facto-standard-repo at packman and my search
always ended successfully.

Now many packages are distributed widely over OBS. Sure, they can be
found via http://software.opensuse.org/search but from a users point of
view this is not very comfortable for me to keep my installation
up-to-date.

I understand, that it makes no sense to maintain a package twice - once
in OBS and a second time at packman - but this fact is closely linked
to the question of what target will be followed by the packman team.

Will Packman concentrate on multimedia packages or will Packman
disappear once all or the most packages are in OBS?

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Smartysmart34
Am 31.12.2011 11:26, schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
 ...people can get it either through the oss repo of
 a released version or through Tumbleweed/Factory if they want to
 live on the bleeding edge.

Maybe someone can enlighten me on a specific topic: I am reading
different Mails here and someone speaks of OBS (Build Service) others
talk about OSS (which for me is the open Source software setup
repository of a Suse installaton?)

So as long as a specific Software is available in the default setup
repository, I'm fine with that. But if it is in Build service which for
me seems like a bunch of different repos of various quality and unclear
maintenance, then that's not an option.

To get my Suse setup up and running i used to have oss, non-oss, update
and packman in the past.

Now I have (besides the 4 mentioned above):

KDE:Extra for knutclient
Security:Passwordmanagement for Keepassx
KDE:Extra:KDE_Release_46_... for Luminance HDR
Graphics:Opensuse for Rawtherapee
Education for Scribus newer then 1.4 RC1
Videolan for libdvdcss

And if I want to check now, where Scribus 1.4 RC6 can be found: it is
available under
- KDE:Release:47
- KDE:Distro:Factory
- KDE:UpdatedApps
- KDE:Distro:Stable
- Education

And I'm only talking about Suse 11.4 here. This is close to ridiculous.

Fact is, that Suse 11.4 delivered scribus 1.4 RC1 through the default
setup-repository, which was almost unusable due to major bugs. And
instead of delivering subsequent RCs (2, 3, 4, 5, 6 - which fixed most
of the bugs) via update - where they belong - one is now forced to
include suspicious OBS-repos.

That's just one example of why I think OBS is the worst idea ever.

I'd rather go for default oss, non-oss and update together with all the
rest in packman.

Cheers,
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:44:46 +0100
schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:

 Dnia piątek, 30 grudnia 2011 23:06:01 Detlef Reichelt pisze:
  Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100
  
  schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
   No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in
   main OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...
  
  Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:
  
  187 packages
  141 build errors
  
  Oh, great repository!
  
  Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
  forget...
  
 It looks much better then ie: packman:multimedia: http://goo.gl/XmKSM

yes, and thats the problem ...

Someone decided to link mjpegtools2 to OBS and he doesn't care about
the problems: Fire and forget.

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:14:43 +0100
schrieb Jonathan Hooverman jonathan.hoover...@gmail.com:

 On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:22:10 +0100
 wrote Smartysmart34 smartysmar...@web.de:
 
 
  Packman used to be THE one stop shop for everything that mattered
  besides the main Repo (by MAIN I mean the setup repos OSS and
  Non-OSS, not OBS)
  
 I could not have described this more accurate. Started loving Linux
 with SuSE Linux 7.3 and whenever I did not find a package in OSS or
 non-OSS I went to the de-facto-standard-repo at packman and my search
 always ended successfully.
 
 Now many packages are distributed widely over OBS. Sure, they can be
 found via http://software.opensuse.org/search but from a users point
 of view this is not very comfortable for me to keep my installation
 up-to-date.

We never get mails with topic Stop building X, it is in OBS/foo from
users...

Why? ;)

Detlef

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Mariusz Fik
Dnia sobota, 31 grudnia 2011 13:45:31 Detlef Reichelt pisze:
 Am Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:39:28 +0100
 
 schrieb Guido Berhoerster guido+links2linux...@berhoerster.name:
  * Marc Schiffbauer m...@schiffbauer.net [2011-12-30 21:44]:
   * Mariusz Fik schrieb am 30.12.11 um 18:47 Uhr:
No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in
main OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...
   
   Why?
  
  Why not, why shouldn't such packages (excluding patented/non-free
  software or games) be part of the main distribution, ie. what
  keeps you from maintaining them on OBS and getting them into
  Factory which means additional reviews and handlying of security
  issues in released products by the security team?
 
 Why should i build claws-mail 3.8(!) in factory? I want 3.8 for 12.1
 and 11.4.
 
 Detlef
 

GNOME:Apps builds also for 11.4 (even with GNOME 3 or 3.2), 12.1.

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Guido Berhoerster
* Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de [2011-12-31 13:45]:
 Am Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:39:28 +0100
 schrieb Guido Berhoerster guido+links2linux...@berhoerster.name:
 
  * Marc Schiffbauer m...@schiffbauer.net [2011-12-30 21:44]:
   * Mariusz Fik schrieb am 30.12.11 um 18:47 Uhr:

No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in
main OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...
   
   Why?
  
  Why not, why shouldn't such packages (excluding patented/non-free
  software or games) be part of the main distribution, ie. what
  keeps you from maintaining them on OBS and getting them into
  Factory which means additional reviews and handlying of security
  issues in released products by the security team?
 
 Why should i build claws-mail 3.8(!) in factory? I want 3.8 for 12.1
 and 11.4.

I bet the GNOME guys would be happy if you took over
maintainership and updated it to 3.8.
If it is backports what matters so much here that'd be easily
achievable with links to a new Backports toplevel project or even
Extra in pmbs.
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-31 Diskussionsfäden Malcolm
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:04:00 +0100
Guido Berhoerster
guido+links2linux...@berhoerster.name wrote:

 * Smartysmart34 smartysmar...@web.de
 [2011-12-31 13:31]:
  Am 31.12.2011 11:26, schrieb Guido Berhoerster:
   ...people can get it either through the oss repo of
   a released version or through Tumbleweed/Factory if they want to
   live on the bleeding edge.
  
  Maybe someone can enlighten me on a specific topic: I am reading
  different Mails here and someone speaks of OBS (Build Service)
  others talk about OSS (which for me is the open Source software
  setup repository of a Suse installaton?)
 
 I meant part of the released distribution above.
 
  So as long as a specific Software is available in the default setup
  repository, I'm fine with that. But if it is in Build service which
  for me seems like a bunch of different repos of various quality and
  unclear maintenance, then that's not an option.
  
  To get my Suse setup up and running i used to have oss, non-oss,
  update and packman in the past.
  
  Now I have (besides the 4 mentioned above):
  
  KDE:Extra for knutclient
  Security:Passwordmanagement for Keepassx
  KDE:Extra:KDE_Release_46_... for Luminance HDR
  Graphics:Opensuse for Rawtherapee
 
 So the problem here is that these packages are not provided by the
 regular distribution, ie. that they are not part of Factory
 because there is no maintainer willing to maintain them there.
 I don't see how this relates to Packman.
 
  Education for Scribus newer then 1.4 RC1
 
 See below.
 
  Videolan for libdvdcss
 
 This cannot be legally distributed in Germany or the US so there's
 no way for Packman or openSUSE to provide it.
 
  And if I want to check now, where Scribus 1.4 RC6 can be found: it
  is available under
  - KDE:Release:47
  - KDE:Distro:Factory
  - KDE:UpdatedApps
  - KDE:Distro:Stable
  - Education
  
  And I'm only talking about Suse 11.4 here. This is close to
  ridiculous.
  
  Fact is, that Suse 11.4 delivered scribus 1.4 RC1 through the
  default setup-repository, which was almost unusable due to major
  bugs. And instead of delivering subsequent RCs (2, 3, 4, 5, 6 -
  which fixed most of the bugs) via update - where they belong - one
  is now forced to include suspicious OBS-repos.
 
 In this particular case the right way to deal with this is to
 file a bug and ask the maintainer to issue an update for 11.4.
 Was this done and if so why was it rejected?
 
  I'd rather go for default oss, non-oss and update together with all
  the rest in packman.
 
 If the packages you cited above actually had a maintainer willing to
 maintain them properly they could go into Factory just as well,
 again I think this issue has little to do with Packman.

Hi All
GNOME:Apps is the development project for claws-mail;
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=claws-mailproject=GNOME%3AApps

So that (when updated get's pushed to factory). It will then be
available in the other repositories. If vuntz or DimStar allow an
updated into oss, it will get pushed to the 12.1 update channel...

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Bengs
Am Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:56:45 +0100
schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
 
 We have claws-mail in OSS repository (at least for 12.1).
 It's maintained in GNOME:Apps and IMHO we should update it there and
 not duplicate package unless we can gain additional features.

An additional feature on packman was Tumbleweed!
No packages found in the openSUSE build service that matched your
query.¹

Can it be linked into packman?
Where is it communicated which package from packman goes to OBS:X:Y:Z?

From a user perspective it isn't a good idea to move packages, which are
hosted on packman since years, to different repositorys on OBS.

[1]
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=claws-mailbaseproject=openSUSE:Tumbleweedlang=en
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Mariusz Fik
Dnia piątek, 30 grudnia 2011 14:03:34 Oliver Bengs pisze:
 Am Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:56:45 +0100

 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
  We have claws-mail in OSS repository (at least for 12.1).
  It's maintained in GNOME:Apps and IMHO we should update it there and
  not duplicate package unless we can gain additional features.

 An additional feature on packman was Tumbleweed!
 No packages found in the openSUSE build service that matched your
 query.¹

 Can it be linked into packman?
 Where is it communicated which package from packman goes to OBS:X:Y:Z?

 From a user perspective it isn't a good idea to move packages, which are
 hosted on packman since years, to different repositorys on OBS.

No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main OSS.
Even it was hosted by packman for years...

 [1]
 http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=claws-mailbaseproject=openSUSE:Tumble
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100
schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:

 No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
 OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...

Why should we don't have a big repo (packman/extra) for most wanted
packages? Whats your problem with that?

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Marc Schiffbauer
* Mariusz Fik schrieb am 30.12.11 um 18:47 Uhr:
 
 No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main OSS. 
 Even it was hosted by packman for years...

Why?

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Mariusz Fik
Dnia piątek, 30 grudnia 2011 19:01:05 Detlef Reichelt pisze:
 Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100

 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
  OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...

 Why should we don't have a big repo (packman/extra) for most wanted
 packages? Whats your problem with that?

 Detlef

Because it's much easier for 'end user' to find it in main repo instead adding
a new one every time when she/he needs install extra software.
The stories like, 'add this repo to install X, add this one to get Y, etc' -
don't sound good, especially for new users...

Why do You want to push 'most wanted' packages to repo other then official
one? What's wrong with that from Your pov?
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100
schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:

 No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
 OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...

Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:

187 packages
141 build errors

Oh, great repository!

Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
forget...

Detlef

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Mariusz Fik
Dnia piątek, 30 grudnia 2011 23:06:01 Detlef Reichelt pisze:
 Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100

 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in main
  OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...

 Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:

 187 packages
 141 build errors

 Oh, great repository!

 Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
 forget...

 Detlef

But for all repos. Look on it: http://goo.gl/6dBRY
It looks much better then ie: packman:multimedia: http://goo.gl/XmKSM

But feel free to update it and host on packman ;)
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Malcolm
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 23:06:01 +0100
Detlef Reichelt det...@die-mafia.de wrote:

 Am Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:47:46 +0100
 schrieb Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl:
 
  No. If it doesn't require any restricted 'stuff' it should be in
  main OSS. Even it was hosted by packman for years...
 
 Ok, found claws-mail in gnome-apps:
 
 187 packages
 141 build errors
 
 Oh, great repository!
 
 Thats the problem of OBS, many repos and many errors, fire and
 forget...
 
 Detlef
Hi
That's because of the typelib changes AFAIK, most are unresolvable,
plus new changes to factory requirements cause a few failures, new
macros etc...all good fun.

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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Smartysmart34
Am 30.12.2011 22:35, schrieb Mariusz Fik:
 
 Because it's much easier for 'end user' to find it in main repo instead 
 adding 
 a new one every time when she/he needs install extra software.
 The stories like, 'add this repo to install X, add this one to get Y, etc' - 
 don't sound good, especially for new users...

Sorry, but: lol

Packman used to be THE one stop shop for everything that mattered
besides the main Repo (by MAIN I mean the setup repos OSS and Non-OSS,
not OBS)

And today?

- Assault-Cube is in OBS games
- RawTherapee is in graphics
- Sometimes when asking for current Firefox one is linked to the OBS
mozilla-repo instead of Suse-Update (ok, not a Packman issue here)
- plus a whole bunch of others, sometimes even suspicious homebrew repos

To me, OBS is the exact opposite of what packman used to be:
- No quality assured
- various repos which hopefully add up to a runing system
- unclear what can be found where

While one used to need oss, non-oss, update and packman in the past,
there is the need for half a dozend other repos today. So what have you
been talking about when saying find it in main repo? Let me copy it again:

 The stories like, 'add this repo to install X, add this one to get Y,
etc' -
 don't sound good, especially for new users...

Right. So very right. And it is exactly what the Packman reorganisation
made reality.

I clearly vote to go back to the old approach: Packman as a high quality
one stop shop.

Cheers,
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-30 Diskussionsfäden Malcolm
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:22:10 +0100
Smartysmart34 smartysmar...@web.de wrote:

 Am 30.12.2011 22:35, schrieb Mariusz Fik:
  
  Because it's much easier for 'end user' to find it in main repo
  instead adding a new one every time when she/he needs install extra
  software. The stories like, 'add this repo to install X, add this
  one to get Y, etc' - don't sound good, especially for new users...
 
 Sorry, but: lol
 
 Packman used to be THE one stop shop for everything that mattered
 besides the main Repo (by MAIN I mean the setup repos OSS and Non-OSS,
 not OBS)
 
 And today?
 
 - Assault-Cube is in OBS games
 - RawTherapee is in graphics
 - Sometimes when asking for current Firefox one is linked to the OBS
 mozilla-repo instead of Suse-Update (ok, not a Packman issue here)
 - plus a whole bunch of others, sometimes even suspicious homebrew
 repos
 
 To me, OBS is the exact opposite of what packman used to be:
 - No quality assured
 - various repos which hopefully add up to a runing system
 - unclear what can be found where
 
 While one used to need oss, non-oss, update and packman in the past,
 there is the need for half a dozend other repos today. So what have
 you been talking about when saying find it in main repo? Let me
 copy it again:
 
  The stories like, 'add this repo to install X, add this one to get
  Y,
 etc' -
  don't sound good, especially for new users...
 
 Right. So very right. And it is exactly what the Packman
 reorganisation made reality.
 
 I clearly vote to go back to the old approach: Packman as a high
 quality one stop shop.
 
 Cheers,
 Martin
Hi
No quality?? sorry I don't agree. The main reason for the various
repositories is they are the 'development' ones for factory and
ultimately the next openSUSE release.

Build power is the main reason AFAIK, if it can be built on OBS then
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[packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-29 Diskussionsfäden Jonathan Hooverman
 Hello Packman Team,
 
 may I ask you to update claws-mail to the latest version?
 
 Thank you for your excellent work!
 
 Regards,
 Jon.
 
 
 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:01:53 +
 From: Paul cl...@thewildbeast.co.uk
 To: us...@lists.claws-mail.org
 Subject: [Users] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!
 
 
 16th December 2011   Claws Mail 3.8.0
 
CLAWS MAIL  RELEASE NOTES
http://www.claws-mail.org
  
 Claws Mail is a GTK+ based, user-friendly, lightweight, and fast 
 email client.
 
 New in this release:
 
 
 * GnuTLS 2.2 is now a minimum requirement if encrypted connections to
  servers are required.
 
 * The list displays have been updated to use newer GTK+ functions,
  this means that the expanders look different and the optional dotted
  lines have been dropped.
 
 * A hidden option, 'summary_from_show', which controls the display in
  the From column of the Message List: 0 (default): show name,
  1: show address, 2: show name + address

 * The image viewer now uses the EXIF Orientation.

 * 'Generate X-Mailer header' has been added as an Account option.
 
 * /View/Message scroll has been added, allowing keyboard shortcuts to
  be added and used for message scrolling.
 
 * Home and End keys now function in the Message View.
 
 * /Message/Print has been added to the Compose window.
 
 * Updated manuals
 
 * Update man page
 
 * Updated translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Czech, French,
Hungarian, Indonesian, Russian, Slovak, Spanish, Ukrainian.
 
 * Bug fixes:
o bug 1489, 'Filter action mark_as_read inoperative
 following move action
o bug 1563, 'Folder view: show complete threads if they
 contain unread messages'
o bug 1870, 'arrow scrolling in filters'
o bug 2116, 'Rip spaces off server names in account
 configuration'
o bug 2127, 'SSL cert check uses canonical name instead of
 specified name'
o bug 2177, 'addrbook/addrbook-0?.xml is not deleted
 after removing the address book in the GUI'
o bug 2303, 'Next unread message enables message view'
o bug 2310, 'Crash when hitting Ctrl+R to reply to a 
 particular mail'
o bug 2377, 'Show All Headers - make change persistent
 between sessions'
o bug 2402, 'GnuTLS change breaks socket communication'
o bug 2404, 'matcherrc updates upon account renaming'
o bug 2406, 'some part of accountrc not updated upon account
 rename'
o bug 2408, 'Some UI elements are not persistent between
 sessions'
o bug 2422, 'Toggle Message View w/ V crashes Claws'
o bug 2479, 'LDIF address book import matches tags case
 sensitive'
o bug 2481, 'do not scroll from dropdown list and sender
 address'
o bug 2493, 'Subscription pull down should be alphabetized'
o bug 2502, 'gnutls_transport_set_lowat removed in gnutls
 3.0.3'
o bug 2505, 'tagsdb becomes polluted with old folder entries'
o bug 2509, 'manually added headers are lost unless mail is
 sent inmediately'
o bug 2520, 'Please remove verbose No further processing
 after rule %s message.'
o bug 2525, 'Address completion window does not get keyboard
 focus'
o bug 2526, 'When reading message in separate window, n and p
 keys do not work'
o bug 2529, 'crash in mimeview_start_drag after deleting
 message'
o bug 2543, 'filter actions in actionsrc not updated upon
 account renaming'
o bug 2560, 'crash when unsubscribing newsgroup and having
 active search field'
o Fix focus problem on Gnome shell
o Fix flicker on recursive quicksearch
o Fix huge slowness induced by spellcheck while typing
  during initial quote rewraps.
o Fix build with GLib 2.31.
o Fix crasher when spellchecking is not enabled
o Fix compose window size saving/restoring
 
 For further details of the numbered bugs listed above consult
 http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/
 
 -
 See ChangeLog for full information regarding changes in this release.
 
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-29 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt

Hi Jonathan,

On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:49:23 +0100, Jonathan Hooverman wrote:

may I ask you to update claws-mail to the latest version?


claws-mail was deleted on packman, don't ask me who did that and why he 
did that...


Detlef


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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-29 Diskussionsfäden Mariusz Fik
Dnia czwartek, 29 grudnia 2011 23:48:19 Jonathan Hooverman pisze:
  Hi Jonathan,
 
 Good evening Detlef,
 
  may I ask you to update claws-mail to the latest version?
  
  claws-mail was deleted on packman, don't ask me who did that and why he
  did that...
 will there be a chance to get claws-mail back on packman?
 
 Jonathan

We have claws-mail in OSS repository (at least for 12.1).
It's maintained in GNOME:Apps and IMHO we should update it there and not 
duplicate package unless we can gain additional features.
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Re: [packman] Claws Mail 3.8.0 unleashed!!

2011-12-29 Diskussionsfäden Malcolm
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:56:45 +0100
Mariusz Fik fisi...@jabster.pl wrote:

 Dnia czwartek, 29 grudnia 2011 23:48:19 Jonathan Hooverman pisze:
   Hi Jonathan,
  
  Good evening Detlef,
  
   may I ask you to update claws-mail to the latest version?
   
   claws-mail was deleted on packman, don't ask me who did that and
   why he did that...
  will there be a chance to get claws-mail back on packman?
  
  Jonathan
 
 We have claws-mail in OSS repository (at least for 12.1).
 It's maintained in GNOME:Apps and IMHO we should update it there and
 not duplicate package unless we can gain additional features.
Hi
I've built in my home repository on OBS (with some extra specific
tweaks for me) and was planning to update it next week after the
holidays ;) I've been working on getting the GTK3 version built as
well...

There is also some new patches I need to push upstream as well.

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