Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Stefan Botter]

Hi,

On Wed, 2022-03-09 at 16:59 -0400, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> > On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > > > I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
> > > Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> > > project, too, please?
> > > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> > suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> > don't remove the built packages!
> > I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in the 
> > project config.
> > Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this does 
> > not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a look if 
> > everything works out as expected.
> 
> None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.
> Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?

Yes, and yes :)
It is not really intended by means "I do not want that", but publishing
to mirrors is an "opt-in" process. 
I have to prepare several things on our publishing server and then
enable staging on PMBS for the respective repos. This is a liitle bit
time-consuming, and I did not have time to do this. I hope that I will
find the time next weekend.

Greetings,

Stefan
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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022, 20:41:55 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 10:40:45PM +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 22:38:41 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > Hi Giacomo,
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 21:59:27 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> > > > > On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > > >> Hi there,
> > > >  I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now 
> > > >  that
> > > > >> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> > > > >> project, too, please?
> > > > > > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> > > > > suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> > > > > don't remove the built packages!
> > > > > I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in 
> > > > > the project config.
> > > > > Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this 
> > > > > does not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a 
> > > > > look if everything works out as expected.
> > > > 
> > > > None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.
> > > 
> > > probably just a matter of time... Someone has enabled 15.4 as a build
> > > target for 15.4. Also, 15.2 has been disabled to save resources - a BIG
> >   s/15.4/Multimedia/ of course. The rest stays the same!
> > > thank you!
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > > Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?
> > > 
> > > Nothing to be done anymore :)
> 
> Sorry to bother, but still no mirror carries packman 15.4.

I am really sorry, but this is really beyond my capabilities. I don't
know how the mirror administrators define their rules.

> Since the packages are built, but not mirrored,
> the first place to look is at the server that the mirrors
> use to synchronize with.
> Does it have 15.4?

Again, I don't know, but I would just try to pull the packages directly
from http://pmbs.links2linux.de:8080/...

> Giacomo

HTH, cheers

l8er
manfred


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Giacomo Comes]

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 10:40:45PM +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 22:38:41 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > Hi Giacomo,
> > 
> > On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 21:59:27 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> > > > On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > > Hi there,
> > > > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > >> Hi there,
> > >  I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now 
> > >  that
> > > >> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> > > >> project, too, please?
> > > > > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> > > > suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> > > > don't remove the built packages!
> > > > I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in 
> > > > the project config.
> > > > Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this 
> > > > does not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a 
> > > > look if everything works out as expected.
> > > 
> > > None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.
> > 
> > probably just a matter of time... Someone has enabled 15.4 as a build
> > target for 15.4. Also, 15.2 has been disabled to save resources - a BIG
>   s/15.4/Multimedia/ of course. The rest stays the same!
> > thank you!
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > > Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?
> > 
> > Nothing to be done anymore :)

Sorry to bother, but still no mirror carries packman 15.4.
Since the packages are built, but not mirrored,
the first place to look is at the server that the mirrors
use to synchronize with.
Does it have 15.4?

Giacomo

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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Stefan Seyfried]

On 09.03.22 22:38, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

Hi Giacomo,

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 21:59:27 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:

None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.


Had it even finished building when you looked?


probably just a matter of time... Someone has enabled 15.4 as a build
target for 15.4. Also, 15.2 has been disabled to save resources - a BIG
thank you!



It still needs people taking care of the build failures. For example, it 
seems somehting is not right with python macro expansion:


[   23s] warning: line 39: Possible unexpanded macro in: PreReq: python 
= !!_%1_not_installed_!!
[   23s] error: line 39: Illegal char '!' (0x21) in: PreReq: python = 
!!_%1_not_installed_!!


(saw this in multiple packages, but the "!!_%1_not_installed_!!" pattern 
also shows up in some filelists, not sure if this is also python related)


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 22:38:41 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> Hi Giacomo,
> 
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 21:59:27 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> > > On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > > Hi there,
> > > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > >> Hi there,
> >  I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
> > >> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> > >> project, too, please?
> > > > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> > > suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> > > don't remove the built packages!
> > > I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in the 
> > > project config.
> > > Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this does 
> > > not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a look if 
> > > everything works out as expected.
> > 
> > None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.
> 
> probably just a matter of time... Someone has enabled 15.4 as a build
> target for 15.4. Also, 15.2 has been disabled to save resources - a BIG
  s/15.4/Multimedia/ of course. The rest stays the same!
> thank you!
> 
>   
> 
> > Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?
> 
> Nothing to be done anymore :)
> 
> > Giacomo
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> l8er
> manfred


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

Hi Giacomo,

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022, 21:59:27 +0100, Giacomo Comes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> > On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> >> Hi there,
>  I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
> >> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> >> project, too, please?
> > > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> > suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> > don't remove the built packages!
> > I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in the 
> > project config.
> > Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this does 
> > not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a look if 
> > everything works out as expected.
> 
> None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.

probably just a matter of time... Someone has enabled 15.4 as a build
target for 15.4. Also, 15.2 has been disabled to save resources - a BIG
thank you!

  

> Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?

Nothing to be done anymore :)

> Giacomo

Cheers.

l8er
manfred


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Giacomo Comes]

On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
> On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> Hi there,
> > On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
>> Hi there,
 I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
>> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
>> project, too, please?
> > can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
> suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
> don't remove the built packages!
> I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in the 
> project config.
> Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this does not 
> mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a look if 
> everything works out as expected.

None of the mirrors have 15.4 yet.
Is that intended or there is something that has to be done?

Giacomo

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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Stefan Seyfried]

On 09.03.22 11:30, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

Hi there,

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

Hi there,

I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
project, too, please?


can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
don't remove the built packages!


I have build-disabled 15.2 and enabled 15.4 the same way 15.3 was in the 
project config.


Important note: Just because I have the permissions to do that, this 
does not mean that I am especially knowledgeable ;-) So please take a 
look if everything works out as expected.


Have fun,

seife
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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

Hi there,

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 14:42:54 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
> Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> project, too, please?

can the Multimedia maintainers please take a look at this? As Bjørn
suggested we should disable building for openSUSE Leap 15.2, too, but
don't remove the built packages!

Thx, cheers.

l8er
manfred


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Carlos E. R.]

On 2022-03-03 13:31, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 21:22:11 +0100, Bjørn Lie wrote:

on., mars 2 2022 at kl. 14.42 +0100 +0100 skrev Manfred Hollstein <> følgende:




Heck I'd even advocate for removal of those repos/targets all the way.


I'd vote to not remove everything, but disable building anything for it.
This way people who have to keep an old system running wouldn't suddenly
have lots of stale packages on their system.


Yes, please.


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

On Wed, 02 Mar 2022, 21:22:11 +0100, Bjørn Lie wrote:
> on., mars 2 2022 at kl. 14.42 +0100 +0100 skrev Manfred Hollstein
>  følgende:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
> > Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
> > project, too, please?
> > 
> > TIA, cheers.
> > 
> > l8er
> > manfred
> 
> 
> Speaking about buildtargets:
> Should not openSUSE_Leap_15.2 be disabled for all repos by default?
> It is after all out of support, no need to waste buildcpower on a target
> that no longer gets updates for the rest of the distro.

yep, that is absolutely true!

> Heck I'd even advocate for removal of those repos/targets all the way.

I'd vote to not remove everything, but disable building anything for it.
This way people who have to keep an old system running wouldn't suddenly
have lots of stale packages on their system.

> /Bjørn

Cheers.

l8er
manfred


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Re: [packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Bjørn Lie]

on., mars 2 2022 at kl. 14.42 +0100 +0100 skrev Manfred Hollstein 
 følgende:

Hi there,

I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
project, too, please?

TIA, cheers.

l8er
manfred



Speaking about buildtargets:
Should not openSUSE_Leap_15.2 be disabled for all repos by default?
It is after all out of support, no need to waste buildcpower on a 
target that no longer gets updates for the rest of the distro.


Heck I'd even advocate for removal of those repos/targets all the way.

/Bjørn




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[packman] Enable openSUSE Leap 15.4 for the Multimedia project?

[Manfred Hollstein]

Hi there,

I see Leap 15.4 is already enabled in the Essentials project. Now that
Leap 15.4 Beta is out, can it be added and enabled for the Multimedia
project, too, please?

TIA, cheers.

l8er
manfred


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