[packman] gstreamer, codec autoinstallation and Packman

2011-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Cristian Morales Vega
I still have not 11.4 installed. But it's my understanding that in
this version openSUSE implemented the Fedora's
gstreamer-rpm-packagekit integration that makes codecs automatically
installed*. But comparing
https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=gstreamer-0_10project=multimedia%3Alibs
with 
http://pmbs.links2linux.org/package/files?package=gstreamer010project=Essentials
it seems Packman lacks the needed provides?

detrei is bugowner and maintainer, most of the changelog is from toni,
but Pascal did most of the commits in the new BS. Who is the
maintainer then? He has any problem with me starting to substitute
Packman's versions with links to the OBS?


* it's really good, codecs supported by a package are extracted by RPM
and provided by the package. So if an user needs H.264 support it will
get the Packman package even if there is an openSUSE version with the
same name (since the openSUSE version will not provide
gstreamer(h264), or whatever is used)

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Re: [packman] gstreamer, codec autoinstallation and Packman

2011-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Bleser
On 2011-03-10 20:36:27 (+0100), Cristian Morales Vega cmorv...@yahoo.es wrote:
 I still have not 11.4 installed. But it's my understanding that in
 this version openSUSE implemented the Fedora's
 gstreamer-rpm-packagekit integration that makes codecs automatically
 installed*. But comparing
 https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=gstreamer-0_10project=multimedia%3Alibs
 with 
 http://pmbs.links2linux.org/package/files?package=gstreamer010project=Essentials
 it seems Packman lacks the needed provides?
 
 detrei is bugowner and maintainer, most of the changelog is from toni,
 but Pascal did most of the commits in the new BS. Who is the
 maintainer then? He has any problem with me starting to substitute
 Packman's versions with links to the OBS?
 
 * it's really good, codecs supported by a package are extracted by RPM
 and provided by the package. So if an user needs H.264 support it will
 get the Packman package even if there is an openSUSE version with the
 same name (since the openSUSE version will not provide
 gstreamer(h264), or whatever is used)

Sounds very good to me.
The question is how this works for older distributions... ?
(and why on earth no one told us about it...)

Thanks for spotting that!

Let's wait for an ACK from Detlef and Toni on this one.

That being said, we could very well _link to the OBS packages
for most gstreamer packages, except the ones we only have on
Packman.
But it remains to be seen whether those packages build fine on
older distributions as well, as it is very frequent for
packagers in build.o.o to not bother much about those.

cheers
-- 
  -o) Pascal Bleser
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Re: [packman] gstreamer, codec autoinstallation and Packman

2011-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Detlef Reichelt
Am Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:10:24 +0100
schrieb Pascal Bleser pascal.ble...@opensuse.org:

 Let's wait for an ACK from Detlef and Toni on this one.

gstreamer is Tonis baby. ;)

Detlef


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Re: [packman] gstreamer, codec autoinstallation and Packman

2011-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Toni
Am Freitag, 11. März 2011 schrieb Pascal Bleser:
 On 2011-03-10 20:36:27 (+0100), Cristian Morales Vega cmorv...@yahoo.es 
wrote:
  I still have not 11.4 installed. But it's my understanding that in
  this version openSUSE implemented the Fedora's
  gstreamer-rpm-packagekit integration that makes codecs automatically
  installed*. But comparing
  https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=gstreamer-0_10project=m
 ultimedia%3Alibs with
  http://pmbs.links2linux.org/package/files?package=gstreamer010project=Es
 sentials it seems Packman lacks the needed provides?
 
  detrei is bugowner and maintainer, most of the changelog is from toni,
  but Pascal did most of the commits in the new BS. Who is the
  maintainer then? He has any problem with me starting to substitute
  Packman's versions with links to the OBS?
 
  * it's really good, codecs supported by a package are extracted by RPM
  and provided by the package. So if an user needs H.264 support it will
  get the Packman package even if there is an openSUSE version with the
  same name (since the openSUSE version will not provide
  gstreamer(h264), or whatever is used)

 Sounds very good to me.
 The question is how this works for older distributions... ?
 (and why on earth no one told us about it...)

 Thanks for spotting that!

 Let's wait for an ACK from Detlef and Toni on this one.

 That being said, we could very well _link to the OBS packages
 for most gstreamer packages, except the ones we only have on
 Packman.
 But it remains to be seen whether those packages build fine on
 older distributions as well, as it is very frequent for
 packagers in build.o.o to not bother much about those.

I'm too lazy to reflect all changes made to gstreamer packages for every new 
SuSE version in the OBS making it incompatible to the packman package.

The past shows that the OBS package was often changed without contacting or 
discussing the differences with me, resulting in a different package layout 
and leading to a lot of problems.

To avoid future problems simply link to OBS.


 cheers



-- 
have fun
Toni

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