[PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
Comrade Mothelo and all PAC Gauteng Branches and Members Today, the 30th July 2013, we have just learn that you are organising a Gauteng Provincial Congress, as Johannesburg Region we know nothing of such a provincial congress and Johannesburg Region Branches were never consulted and did not form part of any meetings held on the matter. We strongly advice that it will be in the best in interests of the PAC that the envisaged Provincial Congress should be abandon and priority should be the unification of Gauteng PAC branches and members in light of parallel structures formed which deepens divisions within the PAC. Since we have not received the proposed date, we also suggest that the Gauteng Provincial Conference should take place as follows: Venue: Johannesburg Civic Centre or University of Johannesburg (Central for all Gauteng branches) Date : 23rd (Friday) - 25th (Saturday) August 2013 Therefore, the inclusive Gauteng Provincial Conference should analyse the political and organisational state of the PAC, having noted that the party is being held in paralysis deliberately through the feuding of these 2 factions namely Letlapa-Narius NEC Factions which are in actual fact partners in fulfilling the bidding of the ruling bourgeois bureaucracy. Political resolution of this situation requires a well-structured and organised Pan Africanist cadreship that will not only rebuild the party (ideological, structures and a PoA), but furthermore out root the deployed agent provocateurs, but also redirect the party towards the African proletariat and focus on seizure of state political power through internetworking with other parties, social movements, community based organisations, unions and vanguard proletarians to declare war against the ruling bourgeois bureaucracy its petit bourgeois apologists AND most importantly- against the labour aristocracy. This requires the establishment of cadreship-led nuclei in all major work places, communities, schools and campuses to coordinate the execution of the PoA for the proletarian seizure of state power. We put before you that there should be an inclusive Gauteng Provincial Conference which should consider the following:- A.The current state of paralysis can be overcome through a well-orchestrated reconnection of all progressive elements in the party in Gauteng province and unification of branches and members, and as PAC branches and members based on a clarified programme and approach our collective political work should lead to the removal of the deployed agent provocateurs and factionalists in the NEC and PAC as whole; convening of an all-inclusive Provincial Conference that must adopt a Programme of Action, and election of a capable and committed leadership based on the PoA. This necessitates urgent ground work to remobilize structures and cadres to boycott the current factional machinations (including the August conference) and to redirect our efforts towards galvanising of the Azanian proletariat and youths. B. We must build a strong cadreship base for struggles ahead against the neo-colonial system, this infighting is wasting our energies and our time. C.Branches, Regions and Provinces in future should be led by ideologically grounded party members with a strong activist culture. D. In rebuilding the PAC, we must also work towards having fulltime based office bearers from regional level until national leadership if we are serious about execution of a revolutionary programme and taking political power. E. We must adopt progressive and revolutionary principles:- 1. Such as a members having a profit making company and serving as director in a profit making company shall not qualify to serve as an office bearer in all party structures, 2. And members to be considered for leadership role and responsibilities in or for any of the party structures shall should have a proven record of party activism for more than five (5) years to ten (10) years. 3. And a person with a criminal record such as murder and rape will not qualify for any leadership role or has been arrested for crimes that caused harm to our people and not in furtherance of the Objectives of the Pan Africanist' Revolution shall not qualify for any leadership role and membership. 4. Fulltime office bearers shall earn not more than industrial worker, however earn an aggregate of the lowest paid industrial worker and the highest paid industrial worker. 5. Party will deploy its activists members in trade unions and community based organisation led and advance the aims and objective of the Pan Africanist' Revolution. 6. Party members shall make a monthly contribution to fund and carry party operational Programmes, compensation of full-time office bearers and technocrats including funding of all mass based programmes and campaign We hope for your understanding to unite and re-build PAC Nkrumah
Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
Cde Raymaond It is very sad and disappointing to see cde of your caliber turning himself into a directionless anarchist, who just boost with ideological jargon and rhetoric. Seemingly there is nothing you know about the PAC development as you are always claiming that the so call 'JHB Region knows nothing about everything that the leadership of the Party is announcing. Firstly cde RAYMOND when Letlapa was removed, you were on about you as JHB Region requesting minutes and a signed roll call of NEC members who attended the meeting. It is absolute embarrassment that as a former NEC members with all the credentials you have you can boldly utter such or maybe we must ask u to remind us when have you and your NEC send out any of such nature to any lower structure of the party??. NEC does not report and account to any individual who says izwe lethu to it or any individual who has access to this Google group but it reports and accounts in Congress/Conference. Secondly cde RAYMOND there is an administrative reason that you should have understood a long time ago that if u are not a member of a constitutional structure of the PAC, DO NOT expect the PAC to keep you up to date with its internal affairs, you guys need to keep your focus on making JHB Region a constitutional structure in terms of the PAC constitution, build branches. Section 12. of the PAC Constitution is a great answer to all these questions you are raising regarding the up coming Gauteng Provincial Congress. 12.2 Provincial Congress shall be held at such a time and place as may be decided upon by the previous provincial congress and in absence of such, by the PEC, or as directed by the NEC. The focus from your side must be kept on section 15.3 of the PAC constitution 15.3 Minimum number of five branches shall form a regiont This means only hundred members cde RAYMOND and its been many months you have speaking on behalf of a team that is trying to build that region until today you are still organizing. As a leader i thought you would know some of this basics as you are former NEC that seems so obsessed with the constitution. How can the PAC achieve all these great ideas you always publicize when it has comrades like you who take forever to just organize 100 people(5 branches). Every time you think about publicly questioning PAC leadership, dedicate a paragraph and inform us on how far are you with launching JHB region, then after lets see all these great ideas you preach in action. There is a complementary relations between theory and practice. It is an element of ill discipline to question the authority and directives of the leadership in public platforms as much as making public pronunciations on behalf of PAC JHB region branches without being given the authority whether there is 1,2 or 3 branches. The office of PAC SG communicated and directed 3 provinces to be going to Provincial Congresses(Eastern Cape,Gauteng and Limpopo) with dates and this is just for your information not for me and you to discuss it here on public platforms. If you have issues with that there is a National Conference in a few days which also will be guided by the PAC constitution. Again there section 5.4 of the PAC Constitution will be guiding us. 5.4 Branches that are in full compliance with their fees shall be entitled to be represented at the National Congress by one delegate for every 20 members. if u allow anger and emotions to dominate you..your ability to reason degenerates Yours truly Eddie Mfulwane On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: Comrade Mothelo and all PAC Gauteng Branches and Members ** ** Today, the 30th July 2013, we have just learn that you are organising a Gauteng Provincial Congress, as Johannesburg Region we know nothing of such a provincial congress and Johannesburg Region Branches were never consulted and did not form part of any meetings held on the matter. We strongly advice that it will be in the best in interests of the PAC that the envisaged Provincial Congress should be abandon and priority should be the unification of Gauteng PAC branches and members in light of parallel structures formed which deepens divisions within the PAC. Since we have not received the proposed date, we also suggest that the Gauteng Provincial Conference should take place as follows: ** ** *Venue: Johannesburg Civic Centre or University of Johannesburg (Central for all Gauteng branches)* *Date : 23rd (Friday) – 25th (Saturday) August 2013* Therefore, the inclusive Gauteng Provincial Conference should analyse the political and organisational state of the PAC, having noted that the party is being held in paralysis deliberately through the feuding of these 2 factions namely Letlapa-Narius NEC Factions which are in actual fact partners in fulfilling the bidding of the ruling
RE: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
Comrade Xola I honestly find your submission disappointing however not surprising, Son of soil. I advise you to thoroughly peruse and read the response I sent comrade Mothelo, in which I put clear suggestions as to what must be done for the province and party to move forward. Comrade Mothelo's response further alludes that they have a challenge to about discussion documents, logically delegates cannot arrive in the congress to see discussion documents for the first time and they are expected to deliberate on them and adopt them, delegates need to prepare themselves thoroughly and mandated by their branches such is central to democratic centralism. Comrade Xola, you must accept the bitter truth that we are not going to support factionalism as a matter of principle. As a matter of principle again we urge and encourage all PAC members and branches to be united, is it wrong to advocate for such a position. We know, that we are moving against a tide of opportunism disguised under the cloak of salvaging the PAC, amidst the personal attacks we will not relent and succumb to all forms of blackmail and factional attacks. I will ignore sections where you are being personal. Comrad Xola, if you believe that these methods are correct, you should point out vividly and prove that they are not-factionalist, surely if our analysis are incorrect one will decently retract. Regards Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xola George Tyamzashe Sent: 30 July 2013 01:14 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS) Revolutionary Greetings Clearly it seems like I am not the only one who seems to have noticed that Cde Nkrumah has not only become a professional fault finder but behaves as if the whole PAC revolves around him and that he is the only one that has all the solutions to PAC's problems. Things should only happen once they have his 'blessings' or approval. He also seems to be the sole representative of the Johannesburg Region Preparatory Committee...question is what is it that he has been mandated to prepare for for so long? Things have to come to a stand still simply because he does not approve. It is also with interest that since the 11th of May he has used every social network from facebook/whatsup/PAYCO google, to bash/expose the PAC current crises and in the meantime boycotting all relevant events (from the last PAC National Congress) irrespective of which 'faction' has called it to voice his concern or disapproval, criticizing everyone with his superior english and justifying it ideologically. High discipline! Xola Tyamzashe From: eddie mfulwane rammymfulw...@gmail.com To: payco@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS) Cde Raymaond It is very sad and disappointing to see cde of your caliber turning himself into a directionless anarchist, who just boost with ideological jargon and rhetoric. Seemingly there is nothing you know about the PAC development as you are always claiming that the so call 'JHB Region knows nothing about everything that the leadership of the Party is announcing. Firstly cde RAYMOND when Letlapa was removed, you were on about you as JHB Region requesting minutes and a signed roll call of NEC members who attended the meeting. It is absolute embarrassment that as a former NEC members with all the credentials you have you can boldly utter such or maybe we must ask u to remind us when have you and your NEC send out any of such nature to any lower structure of the party??. NEC does not report and account to any individual who says izwe lethu to it or any individual who has access to this Google group but it reports and accounts in Congress/Conference. Secondly cde RAYMOND there is an administrative reason that you should have understood a long time ago that if u are not a member of a constitutional structure of the PAC, DO NOT expect the PAC to keep you up to date with its internal affairs, you guys need to keep your focus on making JHB Region a constitutional structure in terms of the PAC constitution, build branches. Section 12. of the PAC Constitution is a great answer to all these questions you are raising regarding the up coming Gauteng Provincial Congress. 12.2 Provincial Congress shall be held at such a time and place as may be decided upon by the previous provincial congress and in absence of such, by the PEC, or as directed by the NEC. The focus from your side must be kept on section 15.3 of the PAC constitution 15.3 Minimum number of five branches shall form a regiont This means only hundred members cde RAYMOND and its been many months you have speaking on behalf of a team that is trying to build that region until today you are still organizing. As a leader i thought you would know some of this basics
Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
I was member of the PAC even your term of office, no conference was called by the leadership that you were serving in, it was worse in QwaQwa when the Congress was adjourn while the session on progress. if you managed to service the party well, what happen in QwaQwa why the party was outside for the whole day, where the hall was used by church. During the Congress, no financial report was presented and I am not apologetic to participate in terms of leadership formation, on that time branches of the PAC agreed that Letlapa must lead the party, I was not going to defy the mandate of the branches on that particular time. The Conference you tried to organise in Port Shepstone in KZN, failed dismally. NB: TELL ME OTHER REASON WHY U DIDN\'T TABLED THE FINANCIAL REPORT IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE COMPETENT TREASURY OF THE PARTY. Some of us careless about how much of jargon you can throw around but the out put of your action must benefit PAC and the struggles its engaged in. The only reason you see us going out of our way to confront paper tigers who make a lot of noise on social networking is that they have potential of confusing other comrades who might not be informed. Some of these paper tigers after their embarrassing failures they hibernated away from the Party for some time now when they come back they want to speak as if they are a voice of honesty, principle and commitment. Cde Raymond history is good teacher and in this case we are just saying stop trying to project yourself as something that the PAC knows very you not for history has a record of you given a chance to lead the party what are you capable of doing.a lot of nothing. Unlike you I wont project myself as what I'm not...Never confuse the compliment that we as members of the PAC say to you or about you that you posses wealth of ideological understand for being our political semi god who we must bow to and ask for a stamp of authority for every decision concerning the PAC. As members of the PAC we must understand our various responsibilities as membership, leadership and task teams. Time has arrived that we stop talking a lot and we get out to service our structures to make sure they are prepared to execute the aims and objectives of the PAC. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Cape wrote: I am very sceptical to engage to the debate raised by comrades on the matter, the time we agreed about Gauteng Provincial Congress, no one differed with that, when the days are close for the Provincial Congress comrades are commencing criticising the process, I remember the Soweto Congress thatgave birth the NECthat gave birth to the Former National Treasury-Nkrumahwho never even brought a cent to the organisation, the whole 3 year term of office, that NEC failed to call Constitutional Sitting, PAC on that collapsed until branches decided to usurp power through sitting of QwaQwa Congress, even in Congress the NEC was the fence sitters and they played a Wait and See process. No report was tabled and SG who Likotsi was left alone with no support from his NEC.Not a single constitutional platform was created, and I am not wondering whyNkrumahalways complain, he never respected the party constitution himself.Whatever problems the par ty is facing Nkrumah you are not the solution but you are adding problems to the party, how can you always complain and you are not bringing any solutions. Comrades must continue with Congress and Annual National Conference will continue without you, if you decide to throw stones in every effort is made by the party.WHY THE NEC YOU SERVED IN, NEVER CALLED A CONFERENCE OR CONGRESS EXCEPT THAT WAS CALLED BY DR PHEKO AND LIKOTSI, BECAUSE YOU ABSTAIN TO THE PROCESS. S. NOFUMA On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Xola George Tyamzashe wrote Revolutionary Greetings Clearly it seems like I am not the only one who seems to have noticed that Cde Nkrumah has not only become a professional fault finder but behaves as if the whole PAC revolves around him and that he is the only one that has all the solutions to PAC's problems. Things should only happen once they have his 'blessings' or approval. He also seems to be the sole representative of the Johannesburg Region Preparatory Committee...question is what is it that he has been mandated to prepare for for so long? Things have to come to a stand still simply because he does not approve. It is also with interest that since the 11th of May he has used every social network from facebook/whatsup/PAYCO google, to bash/expose the PAC current crises and in the meantime boycotting all relevant events (from the last PAC National Congress) irrespective of which 'faction' has called it to voice his concern or disapproval, criticizing everyone with his superior english and justifying it ideologically. High discipline! Xola Tyamzashe FROM: eddie mfulwane TO: payco@googlegroups.com [4] SENT: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:00 PM SUBJECT: Re: [PAYCO]
Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
Nofuma, you again you are hopeless and full of contradictions. Is it wrong for members to suggest that as a province let us unite and have a unification conference first and provincial congress later, is this wrong. Another thing, UNITY SUMMIT organised by NARIUS, we agreed that PROVINCES SHOULD HAVE UNITY SUMMITS OR CONFERENCES, so KGAGUDI's IDEA IS CORRECT. AFTER, YOU ARE FCATIONALIST IN WESTERN CAPE, THIS ARE GAUTENG ISSUES! NOT LONG YOU WERE LOBBYING KGAGUDI TO FORM PART OF PAC NEC, TODAY YOU WANT TO TELL US HE HAS ALL THIS PROBLEMS. KGAGUDI SHOULD IGNORE YOU. QWAQWA CONGRESS OF 2006, YOU NOW ASKING THIS QUESTIONS, THAT IS 6 TO 7 YEARS AFTER, NOW YOU ARE BECOMING A JOKE. WHY DID YOU INSTRUCT LETLAPA THEN AS A PRESIDENT TO DEMAND THOSE FINANCIALS! YOU ARE BUSY RUNNING BEHIND A LEADER ACCUSE OF BEING A RAPIST AND FONDLED A HELPLESS WOMAN IN UNION TOILETS, YOU ARE SAYING NOTHING ABOUT THIS! WHY? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za wrote: I was member of the PAC even your term of office, no conference was called by the leadership that you were serving in, it was worse in QwaQwa when the Congress was adjourn while the session on progress. if you managed to service the party well, what happen in QwaQwa why the party was outside for the whole day, where the hall was used by church. During the Congress, no financial report was presented and I am not apologetic to participate in terms of leadership formation, on that time branches of the PAC agreed that Letlapa must lead the party, I was not going to defy the mandate of the branches on that particular time. The Conference you tried to organise in Port Shepstone in KZN, failed dismally. *NB: Tell me other reason why u didn't tabled the financial report if you feel that you were competent treasury of the party.* Some of us careless about how much of jargon you can throw around but the out put of your action must benefit PAC and the struggles its engaged in. The only reason you see us going out of our way to confront paper tigers who make a lot of noise on social networking is that they have potential of confusing other comrades who might not be informed. Some of these paper tigers after their embarrassing failures they hibernated away from the Party for some time now when they come back they want to speak as if they are a voice of honesty, principle and commitment. Cde Raymond history is good teacher and in this case we are just saying stop trying to project yourself as something that the PAC knows very you not for history has a record of you given a chance to lead the party what are you capable of doing.a lot of nothing. Unlike you I wont project myself as what I'm not...Never confuse the compliment that we as members of the PAC say to you or about you that you posses w ealth of ideological understand for being our political semi god who we must bow to and ask for a stamp of authority for every decision concerning the PAC. As members of the PAC we must understand our various responsibilities as membership, leadership and task teams. Time has arrived that we stop talking a lot and we get out to service our structures to make sure they are prepared to execute the aims and objectives of the PAC. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za wrote: I am very sceptical to engage to the debate raised by comrades on the matter, the time we agreed about Gauteng Provincial Congress, no one differed with that, when the days are close for the Provincial Congress comrades are commencing criticising the process, I remember the Soweto Congress thatgave birth the NECthat gave birth to the Former National Treasury-Nkrumahwho never even brought a cent to the organisation, the whole 3 year term of office, that NEC failed to call Constitutional Sitting, PAC on that collapsed until branches decided to usurp power through sitting of QwaQwa Congress, even in Congress the NEC was the fence sitters and they played a Wait and See process. No report was tabled and SG who Likotsi was left alone with no support from his NEC.Not a single constitutional platform was created, and I am not wondering whyNkrumahalways complain, he never respec ted the party constitution himself.Whatever problems the par ty is facing Nkrumah you are not the solution but you are adding problems to the party, how can you always complain and you are not bringing any solutions. Comrades must continue with Congress and Annual National Conference will continue without you, if you decide to throw stones in every effort is made by the party.WHY THE NEC YOU SERVED IN, NEVER CALLED A CONFERENCE OR CONGRESS EXCEPT THAT WAS CALLED BY DR PHEKO AND LIKOTSI, BECAUSE YOU ABSTAIN TO THE PROCESS. S. NOFUMA On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Xola George Tyamzashe tyamza...@yahoo.com wrote Revolutionary Greetings  Clearly it seems like I am not the only one who seems
RE: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
Comrades Sadly, this discussion has degenerated, I see no logic of further discussions, such serves no purpose. Matters of principle remains a such, matters of principle, we said it before such principled positions will expose those sincere and those self-serving individuals. Lastly, it has become evident, once happened in the early 1990 and late 1990 it repeats itself, we are witnessing a re-alignment of a comprador bourgeoisie within the PAC, a two line struggle will always manifest itself in terms of personalities. The revolutionary Pan Africanist political line is under siege. Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cape Sent: 30 July 2013 04:13 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS) Factual, I was not part of the NEC of 2006, I was not part of the NDC that expel Charg-In but the decision of the NEC binds me as loyal member of the party in that time., 3rd I was a delegate in QwaQwa I never hi-jack the Congress I only participated in the proceedings. I know other cdes are still bitter even today, on how the lost the congress. If don't have support and delegate that support your vision you cry fowl. I don't think that you know Cde but you hear that there is Nofuma in the current NEC, it is fact I must confirm that. MoAfrika Eddie, you are hopeless for a youth leader, I doubt If MASHAO knows you. Eddie, you know nothing about PAC, YOU are a TODDLER Badly Brought UP. It seems you can't outgrow being A Narius Moloto employee in BCAWU, your loyalty blinds your judgement.MoAfrika Nofuma, I was reminded that you are part of Narius NEC, it seems you benefit materially from this divisions, how? time will tell. It is embarrassing for you to accuse KGAGUDI about QWAQWA CONGRESS WHEN YOURSELVES WITH MAMPANE AND TEENAGE HIJACKED THE NATIONAL CONGRESS AND AFTER WITH CAMERON TABANE LOOTED PARTY FUNDS WITHOUTACCOUNTING. YOU NOFUMA AND SIYA NDAMANE, NTOMZIMA AND MAMPANEWERE HAPPY TO SUSPEND AND EXPEL CHARGE-IN MABASO FROM PAC WITHOUT A DISCPLINARY HEARING, BY THEN YOU WERE FRIENDS OF LETLAPA. KGAGUDI is correct, he speaks the truth the powers and DEFENDS PAC CONSTITUTION AND BASIC DOCUMENTS THIS IS DISGUSTING AND DISSAPPOINTING, THE WAY YOU DEFEND FACTIONALISM IT IS SO SCARY, SOBUKWE AND RABOROKO MUST BE TURNING IN THEIRGRAVES. KGAGUDI, YOU ARE WAISTING YOUR TIME AND TALENT, SON OF SOIL! THESE GUYS ARE ALSO CAPABLE OF KILLING YOU, THE WAY THEY HATE YOU! PEOPLE LIKE SIPHO TSHABALALA, DR GILINGWE MAYENDE, ADVOCATE MOSENEKEAND OTHERS LEFTAND STOOPED BEING ACTIVE OF MEMBERS PACBECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF BEING INSULTED, TODAY SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE IS PAC! On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM, eddie mfulwane rammymfulw...@gmail.com wrote: Cde Raymaond It is very sad and disappointing to see cde of your caliber turning himself into a directionless anarchist, who just boost with ideological jargon and rhetoric. Seemingly there is nothing you know about the PAC development as you are always claiming that the so call 'JHB Region knows nothing about everything that the leadership of the Party is announcing. Firstly cde RAYMOND when Letlapa was removed, you were on about you as JHB Region requesting minutes and a signed roll call of NEC members who attended the meeting. It is absolute embarrassment that as a former NEC members with all the credentials you have you can boldly utter such or maybe we must ask u to remind us when have you and your NEC send out any of such nature to any lower structure of the party??. NEC does not report and account to any individual who says izwe lethu to it or any individual who has access to this Google group but it reports and accounts in Congress/Conference. Secondly cde RAYMOND the re is an administrative reason that you should have understood a long time ago that if u are not a member of a constitutional structure of the PAC, DO NOT expect the PAC to keep you up to date with its internal affairs, you guys need to keep your focus on making JHB Region a constitutional structure in terms of the PAC constitution, build branches. Section 12. of the PAC Constitution is a great answer to all these questions you are raising regarding the up coming Gauteng Provincial Congress. 12.2 Provincial Congress shall be held at such a time and place as may be decided upon by the previous provincial congress and in absence of such, by the PEC, or as directed by the NEC. The focus from your side must be kept on section 15.3 of the PAC constitution 15.3 Minimum number of five branches shall form a regiont This means only hundred members cde RAYMOND and its been many months you have speaking on behalf of a team that is trying to build that region until today you are still organizing. As a leader i thought you would know some of this basics as
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Re: [PAYCO] GAUTENG PROVINCIAL CONFERENCE AND UNIFICATION OF BRANCHES (AND MEMBERS)
This platform when it was created by the likes of Sbu, Matome and Thulani Mabanga it was establish to publicise the party position, not to fight NACTU battles and people who always think that, are MR KNOWS EVERYTHING, firstly the NEC that sat on the 11th May 2013, Nkrumah vindicated and demonise it. he went further requesting minutes and writing public letters on behalf of JHB region which he claims to be the leader the region without the mandate of the region. Whether you like it or not PAC has only one SECRETARY GENERAL until branches decide otherwise, Secretary General, he communicate the decision of the NEC. Nkrumah as CONSTITUTIANAL EXPECT, advise us who must communicate the decision of the NEC if is not SG?. A friendly advise, if you see NEC as Narius you are wrong, he is still going to continue briefing the PAC members on behalf of the NEC. How do you expect the entire NEC to speak to the media in at same time. U think that, is only u who can read and write. Some of us we have the work to do, more than wasting your time criticising the NEC and save time and do something better for you. You monopolise PAC during your term, you were in the NEC, now you crying like a baby. After QwaQwa u DISSAPEARED and you are still trying to surface with personal attacks, I really curse the time you were PASMA President, how so wish that I can erase the time. U think that you. are Constitutional God while you are not. NB: If U think that, you are discrediting the SG and attacking him will make U Super Comrade a, it is clear that you are attacking the PAC at large thus far he is SG of the party case close. PAC is voluntary organisation, no one force u to be the member of, I remain MoAfrika Eddie, you are hopeless for a youth leader, I doubt If MASHAO knows you. Eddie, you know nothing about PAC, YOU are a TODDLER Badly Brought UP. It seems you can't outgrow being A Narius Moloto employee in BCAWU, your loyalty blinds your judgement.MoAfrika Nofuma, I was reminded that you are part of Narius NEC, it seems you benefit materially from this divisions, how? time will tell. It is embarrassing for you to accuse KGAGUDI about QWAQWA CONGRESS WHEN YOURSELVES WITH MAMPANE AND TEENAGE HIJACKED THE NATIONAL CONGRESS AND AFTER WITH CAMERON TABANE LOOTED PARTY FUNDS WITHOUTACCOUNTING. YOU NOFUMA AND SIYA NDAMANE, NTOMZIMA AND MAMPANEWERE HAPPY TO SUSPEND AND EXPEL CHARGE-IN MABASO FROM PAC WITHOUT A DISCPLINARY HEARING, BY THEN YOU WERE FRIENDS OF LETLAPA. Â KGAGUDI is correct, he speaks the truth the powers and DEFENDS PAC CONSTITUTION AND BASIC DOCUMENTS Â THIS IS DISGUSTING AND DISSAPPOINTING, THE WAY YOU DEFEND FACTIONALISM IT IS SO SCARY, SOBUKWE AND RABOROKO MUST BE TURNING IN THEIRGRAVES. Â KGAGUDI, YOU ARE WAISTING YOUR TIME AND TALENT, SON OF SOIL! THESE GUYS ARE ALSO CAPABLE OF KILLING YOU, THE WAY THEY HATE YOU! Â PEOPLE LIKE SIPHO TSHABALALA, DR GILINGWE MAYENDE, ADVOCATE MOSENEKEAND OTHERS LEFTAND STOOPED BEING ACTIVE OF MEMBERS PACBECAUSE THEY WERE TIRED OF BEING INSULTED, TODAY SEE WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE IS PAC! On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:00 PM, eddie mfulwane wrote: Cde Raymaond It is very sad and disappointing to see cde of your caliber turning himself into a directionless anarchist, who just boost with ideological jargon and rhetoric. Seemingly there is nothing you know about the PAC development as you are always claiming that the so call 'JHB Region knows nothing about everything that the leadership of the Party is announcing. Firstly cde RAYMOND when Letlapa was removed, you were on about you as JHB Region requesting minutes and a signed roll call of NEC members who attended the meeting. It is absolute embarrassment that as a former NEC members with all the credentials you have you can boldly utter such or maybe we must ask u to remind us when have you and your NEC send out any of such nature to any lower structure of the party??. NEC does not report and account to any individual who says izwe lethu to it or any individual who has access to this Google group but it reports and accounts in Congress/Conference. Secondly cde RAYMOND the re is an administrative reason that you should have understood a long time ago that if u are not a member of a constitutional structure of the PAC, DO NOT expect the PAC to keep you up to date with its internal affairs, you guys need to keep your focus on making JHB Region a constitutional structure in terms of the PAC constitution, build branches. Section 12. of the PAC Constitution is a great answer to all these questions you are raising regarding the up coming Gauteng Provincial Congress. 12.2 Provincial Congress shall be held at such a time and place as may be decided upon by the previous provincial congress and in absence of such, by the PEC, or as directed by the NEC. The focus from your side must be kept on section 15.3 of the PAC constitution 15.3 Minimum number of five branches shall form a regiont This means only
[PAYCO] Our National Heroes' Day
The Anthony Muziwakhe Lembede Anniversary held on the 31st July annually should be treated and regarded as Afrikan Heroes' Day, which all members of PAC should observe and rededicate themselves to the cause of Pan Afrikanism and the goal of United States of Afrika...PAC Constitution, (Section 18.1) In light of the above I further wish ZANU-PF a revolutionary landslide victory in the Zimbabwean polls today on the occasion of our National Heroes' Day. I have always maintained that in the midst of world isms ours has already been chosen for us by our founding fathers and that is Pan Afrikan-ism. And that if we can't be Pan Afrikanits for any other sake let us do so for our name sake, Pan Africanist Congress of Azania. Izwe Lethu i-Afrika, Lest we Forget! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
