[PAYCO] RE: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP

2014-10-14 Thread Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Izwe lethu

 

The statement that “It is very clear that the most dangerous anti Pac is within 
the very same group that sent this email” by  Cde Mvakali is 100% correct, the 
contents of the letter are disgusting  and amount to total disgrace. No sane 
PAC member nor a self- respecting PAC leader can support nor defend such 
none-sense of a letter, which amounts to some form of a smear campaign! 

 

Shango lashu

Nkrumah

From: Mapula Nkoana [mailto:mapulankoan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 October 2014 08:17 PM
To: Nkrumah Kgagudi
Subject: Fwd: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP

 

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From: mvakalijust...@gmail.com
Date: 13 Oct 2014 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP
To: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za
Cc: trea...@pac.org.za, s...@pac.org.za, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, 
goqwana.san...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, 
joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, miles.ndl...@yahoo.com, jntab...@gmail.com, 
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dud...@webmail.co.za, nationalorgani...@pac.org.za, 
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Izwe lethu. It is very clear that the most dangerous anti Pac is within the 
very same group that sent this email. Why stoop so low to issue such nonsense 
in Pac letter from the Pac HQ. Instead of sending conference minutes and 
resolutions, minutes of nec meetings that we never have since jesus died, you 
have a nerve to further to do this? Haai maan Stop this foolish acts in the 
name of the Pac. 

Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

  _  

From: justice mvakali mvakalijust...@gmail.com 

Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:10:30 +0200

To: Admin @ Pacad...@pac.org.za

Cc: trea...@pac.org.za; s...@pac.org.za; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; 
goqwana.san...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; 
joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; miles.ndl...@yahoo.com; jntab...@gmail.com; 
bulanng...@gmail.com; mrfihl...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; 
i...@bataufc.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; 
Capepaccapeme...@webmail.co.za; nngq...@gmail.com; smollzo...@gmail.com; 
Mohlomphegi Mphahlelemphah...@eskom.co.za; lesibajlekgoa...@gmail.com; 
dud...@webmail.co.za; nationalorgani...@pac.org.za; 
nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; 
richardma...@yahoo.com; public...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; 
mapulankoan...@gmail.com; presid...@pac.org.za; 
isaa...@diplomat-global.com; deputypresid...@pac.org.za

Subject: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP

 

Mnxa why this letter is not signed. You now using party letter for this 
nonsense. You wont destroy this party who ever wrote this kak

On 13 Oct 2014 5:02 PM, Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za wrote:

Good day 

 

Please find the attached for your attention.

 

Regards

PAC of Azania

Tel : 011 331 3415/ 14/ 11

Fax : 086 527 0380

Email : ad...@pac.org.za

Website: www.pac.org.za

 

A SHORT SAYING OFTEN CONTAINS MUCH WISDOM

 

 

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Re: [PAYCO] Determing A Good Standing Branch

2014-10-14 Thread 'Mbuyiselo Kantso' via Pan Africanist Youth Congress
Comrades Comrade Ray what Apa communicated it is a true reflection of the 
discussions held. That is why already there is a fabrication about the meeting 
outcome because the effect of that unity and its expansion thereof as you put 
it will go a long way in assisting stabilising the party. I also briefed the 
meeting about the gathering we postponed and that very soon there is a need to 
engage further as many PAC people as possible. What was good about the meeting 
is that most of us who attended the meeting have post unity leadership 
ambitions so that all what you do Ray, Linda, Siya and all other comrades get 
unqualified support. I am saying this because other people think that in this 
current crisis they will opportunistically rise to the top hence their 
behaviour. Anyway ll the best comrades. 

 On Monday, October 13, 2014 12:14 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi 
nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote:
   

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{margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv9791564402 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}-- Determining a 
Good Standing Branch! Izwe lethu  During the Leadership Development Workshop 
held on the 11th October 2014, attended by 7 Branch Executive Committees coming 
from Johannesburg Region plus PASO members and Eastrand/ Ekhuruleni Regional 
Executive Committee member, the constitutional interpretation and application 
of the concept-principle member(s) in Good Standing and/or branch(es) in Good 
Standing lost its full comprehensive meaning and content. And this largely, 
furthermore explains some of the political and organisational problems facing 
the party.   The incorrect thus incomplete interpretation and application of 
the principle Good Standing has been reduced to narrowly imply :-• A member in 
good standing has been understood and applied as meaning a paid up member from 
a launched branch with at least 20 paid members; • and a branch in good 
standing meant which had its Annual General and with 20 plus paid up members 
having an elected Branch Executive Committee;  This (above) interpretation is 
incomplete since it focus narrowly on selected few clauses which are mainly 
administrative and partly organisational, but this interpretation ignored the 
political requirements to define and describe a Good Standing Branch and a Good 
Standing Member. Section 20.1 until 20.3 provide almost eight requirements 
which further provides a description of what constitutes a PAC branch 
constitutionally for a branch to politically qualify and meet the first part to 
be a Good Standing Branch! These eight requirement are well described and 
stated in section   Political Component and Elements:-  
| Clause No. |    | Applicable Constitutional Requirement-Prescripts |
| 20.1 |
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 | Carry organizational work amongst the masses |
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 | Carry educational work amongst the masses |
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 | Acquaint them with the aims and objects, policies and programmes of the 
organization |
| 20.2 |
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 | Keep (continuous and constant) close contact with the masses and  |
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 | Provide continual leadership and guidance to the oppressed people in area |
| 20.3 |
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 | Foster the spirit of initiative among the people  |
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 | Take the leading part in organizing the masses to solve problem in the area. 
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 | Organise the masses to solve their problems in the area |

    Therefore, a branch can be deemed as a Good Standing branch because it 
fully complies with clause 20.1 until 20.3, its (branch) activities which 
serves as evidence to demonstrate and proof that the branch’ political mandates 
as per clause 20.1 until 20.3 had been carried out. The above diagram should 
also be understood within the context that the PAC considers a branch