[PAYCO] RE: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP
Izwe lethu The statement that “It is very clear that the most dangerous anti Pac is within the very same group that sent this email” by Cde Mvakali is 100% correct, the contents of the letter are disgusting and amount to total disgrace. No sane PAC member nor a self- respecting PAC leader can support nor defend such none-sense of a letter, which amounts to some form of a smear campaign! Shango lashu Nkrumah From: Mapula Nkoana [mailto:mapulankoan...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 October 2014 08:17 PM To: Nkrumah Kgagudi Subject: Fwd: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP -- Forwarded message -- From: mvakalijust...@gmail.com Date: 13 Oct 2014 6:49 PM Subject: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP To: Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za Cc: trea...@pac.org.za, s...@pac.org.za, phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, billiard.s...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, miles.ndl...@yahoo.com, jntab...@gmail.com, bulanng...@gmail.com, mrfihl...@gmail.com, rammymfulw...@gmail.com, i...@bataufc.com, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, Cape paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, nngq...@gmail.com, smollzo...@gmail.com, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mphah...@eskom.co.za, lesibajlekgoa...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, nationalorgani...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, d...@pac.org.za, nnyq...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, public...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, presid...@pac.org.za, isaa...@diplomat-global.com, deputypresid...@pac.org.za Izwe lethu. It is very clear that the most dangerous anti Pac is within the very same group that sent this email. Why stoop so low to issue such nonsense in Pac letter from the Pac HQ. Instead of sending conference minutes and resolutions, minutes of nec meetings that we never have since jesus died, you have a nerve to further to do this? Haai maan Stop this foolish acts in the name of the Pac. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! _ From: justice mvakali mvakalijust...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:10:30 +0200 To: Admin @ Pacad...@pac.org.za Cc: trea...@pac.org.za; s...@pac.org.za; phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; billiard.s...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; miles.ndl...@yahoo.com; jntab...@gmail.com; bulanng...@gmail.com; mrfihl...@gmail.com; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; i...@bataufc.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; Capepaccapeme...@webmail.co.za; nngq...@gmail.com; smollzo...@gmail.com; Mohlomphegi Mphahlelemphah...@eskom.co.za; lesibajlekgoa...@gmail.com; dud...@webmail.co.za; nationalorgani...@pac.org.za; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; public...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; presid...@pac.org.za; isaa...@diplomat-global.com; deputypresid...@pac.org.za Subject: Re: MEETING OF ANTI-PAC GROUP Mnxa why this letter is not signed. You now using party letter for this nonsense. You wont destroy this party who ever wrote this kak On 13 Oct 2014 5:02 PM, Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za wrote: Good day Please find the attached for your attention. Regards PAC of Azania Tel : 011 331 3415/ 14/ 11 Fax : 086 527 0380 Email : ad...@pac.org.za Website: www.pac.org.za A SHORT SAYING OFTEN CONTAINS MUCH WISDOM -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [PAYCO] Determing A Good Standing Branch
Comrades Comrade Ray what Apa communicated it is a true reflection of the discussions held. That is why already there is a fabrication about the meeting outcome because the effect of that unity and its expansion thereof as you put it will go a long way in assisting stabilising the party. I also briefed the meeting about the gathering we postponed and that very soon there is a need to engage further as many PAC people as possible. What was good about the meeting is that most of us who attended the meeting have post unity leadership ambitions so that all what you do Ray, Linda, Siya and all other comrades get unqualified support. I am saying this because other people think that in this current crisis they will opportunistically rise to the top hence their behaviour. Anyway ll the best comrades. On Monday, October 13, 2014 12:14 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com wrote: !--#yiv9791564402 _filtered #yiv9791564402 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv9791564402 #yiv9791564402 p.yiv9791564402MsoNormal, #yiv9791564402 li.yiv9791564402MsoNormal, #yiv9791564402 div.yiv9791564402MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv9791564402 a:link, #yiv9791564402 span.yiv9791564402MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9791564402 a:visited, #yiv9791564402 span.yiv9791564402MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9791564402 p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Times New Roman, serif;}#yiv9791564402 span.yiv9791564402EmailStyle18 {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv9791564402 .yiv9791564402MsoChpDefault {font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv9791564402 div.yiv9791564402WordSection1 {}#yiv9791564402 _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {} _filtered #yiv9791564402 {}#yiv9791564402 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv9791564402 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}-- Determining a Good Standing Branch! Izwe lethu During the Leadership Development Workshop held on the 11th October 2014, attended by 7 Branch Executive Committees coming from Johannesburg Region plus PASO members and Eastrand/ Ekhuruleni Regional Executive Committee member, the constitutional interpretation and application of the concept-principle member(s) in Good Standing and/or branch(es) in Good Standing lost its full comprehensive meaning and content. And this largely, furthermore explains some of the political and organisational problems facing the party. The incorrect thus incomplete interpretation and application of the principle Good Standing has been reduced to narrowly imply :-• A member in good standing has been understood and applied as meaning a paid up member from a launched branch with at least 20 paid members; • and a branch in good standing meant which had its Annual General and with 20 plus paid up members having an elected Branch Executive Committee; This (above) interpretation is incomplete since it focus narrowly on selected few clauses which are mainly administrative and partly organisational, but this interpretation ignored the political requirements to define and describe a Good Standing Branch and a Good Standing Member. Section 20.1 until 20.3 provide almost eight requirements which further provides a description of what constitutes a PAC branch constitutionally for a branch to politically qualify and meet the first part to be a Good Standing Branch! These eight requirement are well described and stated in section Political Component and Elements:- | Clause No. | | Applicable Constitutional Requirement-Prescripts | | 20.1 | - | Carry organizational work amongst the masses | | - | Carry educational work amongst the masses | | - | Acquaint them with the aims and objects, policies and programmes of the organization | | 20.2 | - | Keep (continuous and constant) close contact with the masses and | | - | Provide continual leadership and guidance to the oppressed people in area | | 20.3 | - | Foster the spirit of initiative among the people | | - | Take the leading part in organizing the masses to solve problem in the area. | | - | Organise the masses to solve their problems in the area | Therefore, a branch can be deemed as a Good Standing branch because it fully complies with clause 20.1 until 20.3, its (branch) activities which serves as evidence to demonstrate and proof that the branch’ political mandates as per clause 20.1 until 20.3 had been carried out. The above diagram should also be understood within the context that the PAC considers a branch