RE: [PAYCO] Know PAC Brief Insight Document
Izwe lethu Cde Kgagudi, thank you for bringing this up, I also fully agree that the document must go back to the writer or writers and before it can be distributed lets engage it. We can not afford to have such information on public its misleading and can cause a dent to our beloved PAC, with all due respect to the Writer let the Document be withdrawn before it can reach those who are still New in Pac. Hotep! Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sent: 2014-07-03 13:43 To: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; Admin @ Pac ad...@pac.org.za; DSG @ PAC d...@pac.org.za; Narius Moloto s...@pac.org.za; Mzwandile Montjane montja...@yahoo.com; LEBOGANG GODFREY NGWATLE ngwatl...@gmail.com; Tshwane PAC Region pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; Vusi Mahlangu vemahla...@gmail.com; Siphiwe Nofuma paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; Apa Pooe apap...@webmail.co.za; Michael Muendane m...@soultalk.co.za; Gantsu mbuyigan...@yahoo.com; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; Ike Mafole mmaf...@gmail.com; Mohlomphegi Mphahlele mphah...@gmail.com; Mbulelo Raymond mrfihl...@gmail.com; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; Sbusiso Xaba sbusiso.x...@gmail.com; Sam Ditshego sditsh...@ymail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; Nakaphala Bauba nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; babesmal...@gmail.com; Pinkie Monyane monyanepin...@gmail.com; Johnson Mlambo river.mla...@telkomsa.net; Khosi Maqetuka maqetu...@gmail.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; justice mvakali mvakalijust...@gmail.com; Alton Mphethi i...@bataufc.com; david mabitsela mabitselada...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; MoAfrica wa Azania moafr...@vodamail.co.za; nrkgag...@gmail.com Subject: [PAYCO] Know PAC Brief Insight Document Izwe lethu M’Afrika Find attached Know PAC Brief Insight, which one strongly feels that the authors must rectify most of the contents of the document prior its distribution. The initiative is good to educate and promote the PAC, however usage of words and concepts should not be taken for granted when producing publication and expressing the PAC’s belief system. *Some of the errors identified are as follows:-* On PAC Presidents it should start with Prof Robert Sobukwe and also add Clarence Mlamli Makwetu and Dr Motsoko Pheko who equally led PAC as a President. PAC thirds objective and the basic documents within the socialist economic system explicitly states states that *“To establish an Africanistic Socialist democratic social order, recognising the primacy of the vital material, intellectual and spiritual interests of the individual”*; but what is written in the *Know PAC Brief Insight* which *“The ownership and control of the economy of this country must be restructured to become owned and controlled by the State, popular trusts (by various groupings of the citizens), communities (trusts, cooperatives, funds, etc) workers and private individuals”*, this statement amounts to ideological misrepresentation because state ownership and control like in China amounts to another form of capitalism which is state capitalism not necessarily Scientific Socialism posits working class control and ownership of the means of production including determination of distribution. Taken further Socialism can further be expanded in terms of permanent revolution to entrench working class hegemony as a necessary path to radically root out the capitalist belief system from the society and create a new society. And furthermore the last part of the above sentence in *Know PAC Brief Insight* which is written as follows *“The ownership and control of the economy of this country must be restructured to become owned and controlled by …private individuals”* this advocates for retention and maintenance of capitalist social relation which makes the premise of the entire document to be not only capitalist orientated however it further falsely and a seriously distorts Pan Africanism and PAC as we know and understand. And this sentence in the *Know PAC Brief Insight* is a total joke and make mockery out of the PAC “*All citizens, except the elderly, children and seriously disabled, must engage in some economic productive activities with the state providing initial support. No free lunch and no dependency on Government”*’ who said the elderly and the disable are incapable to make a meaningful contribution toward social economic development of a people? Discrimination of the elderly and disabled is commonly found among primitive and capitalist societies. And the entire *Know PAC Brief Insight*, it naively over simplifies the *Health System* for it is froth with poor comprehension and analysis of what constitutes an alternative socialist Health System. A country’s health system is not necessarily limited and narrowed to the number of doctors in relation to patients, it is a complex system and cannot be reduced to having more paramedics than doctors will resolve the south
[PAYCO] Know PAC Brief Insight Document
Izwe lethu M'Afrika Find attached Know PAC Brief Insight, which one strongly feels that the authors must rectify most of the contents of the document prior its distribution. The initiative is good to educate and promote the PAC, however usage of words and concepts should not be taken for granted when producing publication and expressing the PAC's belief system. Some of the errors identified are as follows:- On PAC Presidents it should start with Prof Robert Sobukwe and also add Clarence Mlamli Makwetu and Dr Motsoko Pheko who equally led PAC as a President. PAC thirds objective and the basic documents within the socialist economic system explicitly states states that To establish an Africanistic Socialist democratic social order, recognising the primacy of the vital material, intellectual and spiritual interests of the individual; but what is written in the Know PAC Brief Insight which The ownership and control of the economy of this country must be restructured to become owned and controlled by the State, popular trusts (by various groupings of the citizens), communities (trusts, cooperatives, funds, etc) workers and private individuals, this statement amounts to ideological misrepresentation because state ownership and control like in China amounts to another form of capitalism which is state capitalism not necessarily Scientific Socialism posits working class control and ownership of the means of production including determination of distribution. Taken further Socialism can further be expanded in terms of permanent revolution to entrench working class hegemony as a necessary path to radically root out the capitalist belief system from the society and create a new society. And furthermore the last part of the above sentence in Know PAC Brief Insight which is written as follows The ownership and control of the economy of this country must be restructured to become owned and controlled by .private individuals this advocates for retention and maintenance of capitalist social relation which makes the premise of the entire document to be not only capitalist orientated however it further falsely and a seriously distorts Pan Africanism and PAC as we know and understand. And this sentence in the Know PAC Brief Insight is a total joke and make mockery out of the PAC All citizens, except the elderly, children and seriously disabled, must engage in some economic productive activities with the state providing initial support. No free lunch and no dependency on Government' who said the elderly and the disable are incapable to make a meaningful contribution toward social economic development of a people? Discrimination of the elderly and disabled is commonly found among primitive and capitalist societies. And the entire Know PAC Brief Insight, it naively over simplifies the Health System for it is froth with poor comprehension and analysis of what constitutes an alternative socialist Health System. A country's health system is not necessarily limited and narrowed to the number of doctors in relation to patients, it is a complex system and cannot be reduced to having more paramedics than doctors will resolve the south Africa's health system crisis as the document suggests. The Know PAC Brief Insight advocates for more paramedics, now for purpose of clarity a paramedic implies or means a person who is trained to do medical work, especially emergency first aid, but such a person is not necessarily a fully qualified doctor nor a radiographer nor a nurse or a neurologist nor a medical scientist nor a hygiene specialist nor a dietician nor an ophthalmologist nor a dentist nor a pharmacist nor other essential health professional. And the policy positions on Know PAC Brief Insight must be removed until PAC Conference deliberates and recommends for congress to consider on policy proposals presented and adopted at the national congress. I suggest and humbly plead that this document must not distributed, it should be firstly read and proof read and further edited prior its distribution. PAC has adequate historians and literature expertise which should be utilised to ensure quality political literature is circulated. Nonetheless, the initiative a must be commended and supported. Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
