RE: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped
Izwe lethu M'Afrika 14 (b) is a microcosm of the deep ideological and organisational problem facing the party, therefore scrapping 14 (b) is not necessarily a solution. The core problem is mainly the character and form of leadership as a party we have from national to regional including branch level, and the reversal of this perspective is that leadership has become a reflection of the quality membership of PAC today! The beauty of roses reflect both the type of the plant and roots including soil! If the roots can't penetrate the soil to absorb desired nutrients then one should not expect colourful roses! To resolve the leadership problem in the medium to long term, we must qualitatively improve and grow the party membership! To change the government by ballot or bullet, you must win the masses over politically through mass work and constant political education! The same logic applies internally to the party! Kind regards Nkrumah -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 29 August 2014 02:44 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond' Cc: d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 'MoAfrica wa Azania'; 'Keith Moyce'; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; 'Lucas Masemola'; m...@pac.org.za; 'karabo mokgojwa'; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'Solly Hlubi'; danielmamony...@gmail.com; 'KHOISAN SONTI'; 'Cape'; 'Siyabulela Ndamane'; 'Babalwa Malawu'; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; legalu...@sacwu.co.za; manaopane7...@nokiamail.com; clementmar...@yahoo.com; 'kgothatso sithole'; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; 'sindi mbele'; 'tsatsawani chauke'; zozoj...@yahoo.com; 'Dimakatso Moletsane'; 'Maciej Radzio'; 'Mofihli Likotsi'; 'Excellent Rikhotso'; 'SELLO IRVIN LESABANE' Subject: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped Greetings! One of the things I will be lobbying for is the scrapping of Clause 14 (b) in the PAC constitution. This Clause has complicated the state of the party. It has been abused and manipulated to destroy the party. What's your take comrades. Izwe lethu! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:01:35 To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond'mrfihl...@gmail.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 'MoAfrica wa Azania'moafr...@vodamail.co.za; 'Keith Moyce'ke...@nyaleti.co.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; 'Lucas Masemola'masemola.b...@gmail.com; m...@pac.org.za; 'karabo mokgojwa'km.mokgo...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'Solly Hlubi'hlubi.so...@gmail.com; danielmamony...@gmail.com; 'KHOISAN SONTI'khoi.so...@gmail.com; 'Cape'paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'Siyabulela Ndamane'sndam...@gmail.com; 'Babalwa Malawu'babesmal...@gmail.com; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; legalu...@sacwu.co.za; manaopane7...@nokiamail.com; clementmar...@yahoo.com; 'kgothatso sithole'kgothatso.sith...@yahoo.com; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; 'sindi mbele'jntab...@gmail.com; 'tsatsawani chauke'tkchauke.cha...@gmail.com; zozoj...@yahoo.com; 'Dimakatso Moletsane'bafana.phu...@hotmail.com; 'Maciej Radzio'rad...@gmail.com; 'Mofihli Likotsi'urf@gmail.com; 'Excellent Rikhotso'excellentrikho...@gmail.com; 'SELLO IRVIN LESABANE'scal...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Need for serious introspection: What to do to advance the struggle? Comrade Linda The five (5) questions you raised haunts many within the party amidst the silence. Hopes about the party continues to be dashed and short lived by persisting misfortunes that overwhelms the party and its membership. However, one political reality is that the party is faced with a two line ideological struggle, one political thought seeks to re-organise the PAC along Marxist-Leninist traditions to assume and advance a mass based revolutionary programme rooted on socialist principles which places the African Workers as the only motive force to overthrow the capitalist and white supremacist system, that's has assumed a neo-colonial character. The other second political thought and practice is the one which seeks to subject the PAC into the current neo-liberal agenda, whereat the PAC serves as an extension and part of the neo-colonial system on the ground that the freedom fought for had been achieved and there is an African Government that must be supported. Sadly, the PAC today is led by proponents of the second political thought, hence in the Y-Analysis made by Cde Mashoa, he has has avidly pointed that Many of our young comrades and the so-called middle class, are held hostage by this money group. It provides them crumbs enough to survive and to keep them tools for their cause. It is the money'ed group which we opted to describe and define as a comprador bourgeoisie which has successfully captured the PAC and it remains directly responsible for its
Re: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped
Cde Nkrumah, I am conscious of that and accept wholehearted what you are saying. The challenge is that reaching the ideal is very complex. We have been working for years to drum in those realities but people just behave like lunatics. To build PAC we need to build it on collective wisdom and authority. Decisions must be that of the NEC not those of the President. Clause 14 (b) elevates an individual over and above the collective. Whether the situation was normal or not, I would have called for 14 (b) to be repealed. Its in sharp conflict with the principle of democratic centralism. The material conditions that necessitated clause 14 (b) no longer exist therefore must go. Izwe lethu! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:56:00 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 'MoAfrica wa Azania'moafr...@vodamail.co.za; 'Keith Moyce'ke...@nyaleti.co.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; 'Lucas Masemola'masemola.b...@gmail.com; m...@pac.org.za; 'karabo mokgojwa'km.mokgo...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'Solly Hlubi'hlubi.so...@gmail.com; danielmamony...@gmail.com; 'KHOISAN SONTI'khoi.so...@gmail.com; 'Cape'paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'Siyabulela Ndamane'sndam...@gmail.com; 'Babalwa Malawu'babesmal...@gmail.com; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; legalu...@sacwu.co.za; manaopane7...@nokiamail.com; clementmar...@yahoo.com; 'kgothatso sithole'kgothatso.sith...@yahoo.com; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; 'sindi mbele'jntab...@gmail.com; 'tsatsawani chauke'tkchauke.cha...@gmail.com; zozoj...@yahoo.com; 'Dimakatso Moletsane'bafana.phu...@hotmail.com; 'Maciej Radzio'rad...@gmail.com; 'Excellent Rikhotso'excellentrikho...@gmail.com; 'SELLO IRVIN LESABANE'scal...@hotmail.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; dumisani...@gmail.com; 'Vusi Mahlangu'vemahla...@gmail.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond'mrfihl...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped Izwe lethu M'Afrika 14 (b) is a microcosm of the deep ideological and organisational problem facing the party, therefore scrapping 14 (b) is not necessarily a solution. The core problem is mainly the character and form of leadership as a party we have from national to regional including branch level, and the reversal of this perspective is that leadership has become a reflection of the quality membership of PAC today! The beauty of roses reflect both the type of the plant and roots including soil! If the roots can't penetrate the soil to absorb desired nutrients then one should not expect colourful roses! To resolve the leadership problem in the medium to long term, we must qualitatively improve and grow the party membership! To change the government by ballot or bullet, you must win the masses over politically through mass work and constant political education! The same logic applies internally to the party! Kind regards Nkrumah -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Ndebele Sent: 29 August 2014 02:44 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond' Cc: d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 'MoAfrica wa Azania'; 'Keith Moyce'; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; 'Lucas Masemola'; m...@pac.org.za; 'karabo mokgojwa'; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'Solly Hlubi'; danielmamony...@gmail.com; 'KHOISAN SONTI'; 'Cape'; 'Siyabulela Ndamane'; 'Babalwa Malawu'; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; legalu...@sacwu.co.za; manaopane7...@nokiamail.com; clementmar...@yahoo.com; 'kgothatso sithole'; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; 'sindi mbele'; 'tsatsawani chauke'; zozoj...@yahoo.com; 'Dimakatso Moletsane'; 'Maciej Radzio'; 'Mofihli Likotsi'; 'Excellent Rikhotso'; 'SELLO IRVIN LESABANE' Subject: [PAYCO] Clause 14 (b) has to be scrapped Greetings! One of the things I will be lobbying for is the scrapping of Clause 14 (b) in the PAC constitution. This Clause has complicated the state of the party. It has been abused and manipulated to destroy the party. What's your take comrades. Izwe lethu! Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi nrkgag...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:01:35 To: payco@googlegroups.com; 'Mbulelo Raymond'mrfihl...@gmail.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 'MoAfrica wa Azania'moafr...@vodamail.co.za; 'Keith Moyce'ke...@nyaleti.co.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; 'Lucas Masemola'masemola.b...@gmail.com; m...@pac.org.za; 'karabo mokgojwa'km.mokgo...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 'Solly Hlubi'hlubi.so...@gmail.com; danielmamony...@gmail.com; 'KHOISAN SONTI'khoi.so...@gmail.com; 'Cape'paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'Siyabulela Ndamane'sndam
