Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2
Son I can't give you any info about other Unions, rest assured it is no one's fault that we are inflitrated. PAC Cadres who contribute monthly to ANC Through C0SATU affiliated Unions, some are actively involved in those Unions. They are Tacnically supporting ANC, while they insult any move within PAC to have progress and question anything done within the party. As for PALF we are part and parcel Son of the Soil. The question is WHAT can we do for PAC, programmed must be initiated by us in our respective Branches in consultation with our Regions. What are we doing to ensure visibility of the party? Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:03:17 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Mo-Aforika Masoga THANKS A MIILLION SON OF THE SOIL FOR THE CLARITY. WHAT HAPPENED WITH MEWUSA BECAUSE IT WAS LED BY YOUNG, MILITANT AND CAPABLE LEADERSHIP MAJORITY WHERE ONCE PAC AND PASMA LEADERS. AND ALSO PLEASE EXPLAIN AS TO WHY NACTU LEADERSHIP ESPACIALLY PAC COMRADES HELP VHARARIST LIKE DAN LENGOABLA AND EDWARD THOBEJANE AGAINST PAC COMRADES WHO WERE LEADING MEWUSA? WHAT IS THE SITUATION ABOUT HOTELLICA AND TAWASA, LASTLY, ARE YOU COMRADES INNSACWU ACTIVE IN PALF? ZWE LETHU NDIMA On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: ** Ndima The only way is to Join NACTU Affiliates and take up Leadership at all levels Local, Regional, Provincial ultimately National to mobilize resources for the party. The main challenge is that we are infiltrated by Vhararists whom we dealing with on daily basis some oppose any ways and means to propagate the party to the Union membership. Absence of Africanist in the NACTU Affiliated unions make it difficult for us as officials who have no right to make decisions based on Total Worker Control principle which is the case in SACWU. Acting General Secretary is Jetty Edwin Matome Selapisha, President Mampho Mosehla, National Organiser Bosole Chidi, Officials myself, Lesiba Lekgoathi, Tumi Modise, Manyoro Lekota, William Matlala pure Africanist Card carrying members of PAC. We made strides in SaCWU PAC is known and PAC leadership always addresses all National Events, Tembisa Branch have full time PAC spokes person in SACWU Kgodiswana Rantho. About membership I can't comment I am a Branch Organiser based in Pretoria, Tembisa/Modderfontein is the highest, Mpumalanga is the second highest in SACWU so members come and go and service is anything by members. I can't guarantee that we are having the same vision on propagating PAC at all Levels but CADRES known to all I suppose do. Nactu I can't comment much due to the fact that there is no Local in Pretoria due to scarcity of Africanists in affiliates we will be similarly led by Vhararists or apolitical cowards whho will block every effort to propagate PAC. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- *From: * Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com *Sender: * payco@googlegroups.com *Date: *Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:22:22 +0200 *To: *payco@googlegroups.com *ReplyTo: * payco@googlegroups.com *Subject: *Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 M'Afrika Masoga, with you experience in NACTU and SACWU what can we PAC members do to grow and bring militancy in NACTU and SACWU including other affiliates? On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.comwrote: Cadre Masoga we must applaud the good work you are doing in SACWU in union been controlled by workers not what we are seeing in other unions like BCAWU as a recent good example! On 9/20/13, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ndima I may speak of SACWU, negotiating with Ceppwawu GIwusa in the chemical Sector. Always we have both unions fighting over their splinter problems even 2013 Wage Negotiations we had the same problems but SACWU is leading both unions. NACTU policy is that decisions are taken by workers not officials not NEC not NOB and not GS. From where I stand it is NACTU policy that all Affiliates are supposed to be Worker Control and SACWU is one that is purely worker control. We have not yet fully have functioning structures in place. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU etc are examples of such in this case NUM
RE: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2
Comerade Bongani keith your input about the wage settlement in the construction industry is wrong and misleading.what you said about bcawu accepting meagre wage.in so far as bcawu is concerned there is no settlement in the civil engineering,we are still at the negotiating table.but ur propanganda gives readers wrong jnformation. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -Original Message- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bongani Keith Sent: 20 September 2013 11:17 AM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU etc are examples of such in this case NUM is a victor against BCAWU it's a crucial lesson for revolutionaries. On 9/20/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM 's demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM 's Construction Sector Coordinator. Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe Ndima On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Check Dedoorens land issue discussion. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:06 To: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoena mokoen...@workmail.co.za; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudinrkgag...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; g...@bcawu.co.za g...@bcawu.co.za; Jabu Makhanyajabumakha...@yahoo.com; Thulani Khumalo tkhumal...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com; pactshw...@googlegroup.co. Reply-To: mphi...@gmail.com Subject: Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC... REGISTER at our nearest IEC offices! It is your right to vote #2014Elections! Please register and vote PAC! SMS YES for PAC to contact or visit you in your area. Can we attempt and Register with all networks to fund raise for 2014 elections. Those with good IT skills can you come on board and assist? I have learned from Vhararists who send it to my wife. We can also send sms'es to all NACTU Affiliates, Friends, Neighbours all we know. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message
Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2
Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM ‘s demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. “This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness” says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM ‘s Construction Sector Coordinator. “Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU” he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe Ndima On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Check Dedoorens land issue discussion. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:06 To: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoena mokoen...@workmail.co.za; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudinrkgag...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; g...@bcawu.co.za g...@bcawu.co.za; Jabu Makhanyajabumakha...@yahoo.com; Thulani Khumalo tkhumal...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com; pactshw...@googlegroup.co. Reply-To: mphi...@gmail.com Subject: Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC... REGISTER at our nearest IEC offices! It is your right to vote #2014Elections! Please register and vote PAC! SMS YES for PAC to contact or visit you in your area. Can we attempt and Register with all networks to fund raise for 2014 elections. Those with good IT skills can you come on board and assist? I have learned from Vhararists who send it to my wife. We can also send sms'es to all NACTU Affiliates, Friends, Neighbours all we know. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2
Greetings, Indeed cde Ndima Nactu has to explain this. I was shocked to hear that BCAWU had entered into an agreement. This will have devastating effects, why BCAWU will rush to agreement before NUMSA which is known to be compromised due to its relations with the employers and government. This notion of avoiding strikes is liberal and compromises workers. Let's get an explanation, we are raising these questions running a risk of being labelled all kinds of names and being told that BCAWU or NACTU has no obligation to respond to us as we don't form part of its structures. If NACTU is to play any meaningful role in the struggle of the working class it should shed yellow unions characteristics and adapt a militant approach. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:35:59 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoenamokoen...@workmail.co.za; L Lekgwathi0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudinrkgag...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; g...@bcawu.co.zag...@bcawu.co.za; Jabu Makhanyajabumakha...@yahoo.com; Thulani Khumalotkhumal...@yahoo.com; pactshw...@googlegroup.co.za; Tumediso Modisetumimod...@hotmail.co.za; aplamvanatio...@gmail.comaplamvanatio...@gmail.com; Horatio Motjuwadimotjuwa...@sowetan.co.za; Jaki Serokesero...@hotmail.com; g...@nactu.org.zag...@nactu.org.za; PASMA Gautengkalidiekets...@yahoo.com; Advocate K Sizanisizan...@mweb.co.za; Zamikhaya Gxabegxa...@gmail.com; twa...@pac.org.zatwa...@pac.org.za; Zukisa Mxesibezmxes...@gmail.com; ptob...@yahoo.comptob...@yahoo.com; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.zaanwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; ckoms...@yahoo.comckoms...@yahoo.com; Azi Mnandikb...@uwc.ac.za; Luyanda Gwinaluyand...@gmail.com; Johnson Mlamboriver.mla...@telkomsa.net; Malinge Plaatjiemalingeplaat...@yahoo.com; Joseph Thloloethlo...@mweb.co.za; Jerry Vakashavisitvaka...@mweb.co.za; Ray Johnsonitumelengjohn...@yahoo.com; Julian Mohlalamohlala.teb...@gmail.com; Kindo Makhandamakhandatu...@yahoo.com; Khethamabala Sitholeksith...@parliament.gov.za; Baliwinile Kwankwabaliwin...@yahoo.com; KK Kekanalesib...@hotmail.co.za; Kgomotso Matsebemissk...@live.com; brian.gam...@doves.co.zabrian.gam...@doves.co.za; Kutie Thondlanakutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; dumisani...@gmail.comdumisani...@gmail.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.comntsiemohl...@gmail.com; Vusi8 .vemahla...@gmail.com; Lesomepedi Boshegolesomepedi.bosh...@facebook.com; ju-...@webmail.co.zaju-...@webmail.co.za; lifu.nhl...@gmail.comlifu.nhl...@gmail.com; rakwe...@yahoo.comrakwe...@yahoo.com; apap...@webmail.co.zaapap...@webmail.co.za; a...@joburg.org.zaa...@joburg.org.za; angwa...@webmail.co.zaangwa...@webmail.co.za; pmatheb...@webmail.co.zapmatheb...@webmail.co.za; Pule Maqekoanemaqeko...@gmail.com; Letlapa Mphahlelemphahle...@gmail.com; Mphiri Masogamphi...@gmail.com; ntonith...@gmail.comntonith...@gmail.com; mpumele...@gmail.commpumele...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwaicuworkersun...@gmail.com; ndimatongog...@gmail.comndimatongog...@gmail.com; hoteli...@iburst.co.zahoteli...@iburst.co.za Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM ‘s demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. “This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness” says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM ‘s Construction Sector Coordinator. “Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU” he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe Ndima On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Check Dedoorens land issue discussion. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:06 To: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoena
Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2
I meant NUM Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: linda ndebele kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:52:48 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Greetings, Indeed cde Ndima Nactu has to explain this. I was shocked to hear that BCAWU had entered into an agreement. This will have devastating effects, why BCAWU will rush to agreement before NUMSA which is known to be compromised due to its relations with the employers and government. This notion of avoiding strikes is liberal and compromises workers. Let's get an explanation, we are raising these questions running a risk of being labelled all kinds of names and being told that BCAWU or NACTU has no obligation to respond to us as we don't form part of its structures. If NACTU is to play any meaningful role in the struggle of the working class it should shed yellow unions characteristics and adapt a militant approach. Izwe lethu! Linda Ndebele Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 09:35:59 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Cc: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoenamokoen...@workmail.co.za; L Lekgwathi0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudinrkgag...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; g...@bcawu.co.zag...@bcawu.co.za; Jabu Makhanyajabumakha...@yahoo.com; Thulani Khumalotkhumal...@yahoo.com; pactshw...@googlegroup.co.za; Tumediso Modisetumimod...@hotmail.co.za; aplamvanatio...@gmail.comaplamvanatio...@gmail.com; Horatio Motjuwadimotjuwa...@sowetan.co.za; Jaki Serokesero...@hotmail.com; g...@nactu.org.zag...@nactu.org.za; PASMA Gautengkalidiekets...@yahoo.com; Advocate K Sizanisizan...@mweb.co.za; Zamikhaya Gxabegxa...@gmail.com; twa...@pac.org.zatwa...@pac.org.za; Zukisa Mxesibezmxes...@gmail.com; ptob...@yahoo.comptob...@yahoo.com; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.zaanwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; ckoms...@yahoo.comckoms...@yahoo.com; Azi Mnandikb...@uwc.ac.za; Luyanda Gwinaluyand...@gmail.com; Johnson Mlamboriver.mla...@telkomsa.net; Malinge Plaatjiemalingeplaat...@yahoo.com; Joseph Thloloethlo...@mweb.co.za; Jerry Vakashavisitvaka...@mweb.co.za; Ray Johnsonitumelengjohn...@yahoo.com; Julian Mohlalamohlala.teb...@gmail.com; Kindo Makhandamakhandatu...@yahoo.com; Khethamabala Sitholeksith...@parliament.gov.za; Baliwinile Kwankwabaliwin...@yahoo.com; KK Kekanalesib...@hotmail.co.za; Kgomotso Matsebemissk...@live.com; brian.gam...@doves.co.zabrian.gam...@doves.co.za; Kutie Thondlanakutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; dumisani...@gmail.comdumisani...@gmail.com; ntsiemohl...@gmail.comntsiemohl...@gmail.com; Vusi8 .vemahla...@gmail.com; Lesomepedi Boshegolesomepedi.bosh...@facebook.com; ju-...@webmail.co.zaju-...@webmail.co.za; lifu.nhl...@gmail.comlifu.nhl...@gmail.com; rakwe...@yahoo.comrakwe...@yahoo.com; apap...@webmail.co.zaapap...@webmail.co.za; a...@joburg.org.zaa...@joburg.org.za; angwa...@webmail.co.zaangwa...@webmail.co.za; pmatheb...@webmail.co.zapmatheb...@webmail.co.za; Pule Maqekoanemaqeko...@gmail.com; Letlapa Mphahlelemphahle...@gmail.com; Mphiri Masogamphi...@gmail.com; ntonith...@gmail.comntonith...@gmail.com; mpumele...@gmail.commpumele...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwaicuworkersun...@gmail.com; ndimatongog...@gmail.comndimatongog...@gmail.com; hoteli...@iburst.co.zahoteli...@iburst.co.za Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM ‘s demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. “This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness” says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM ‘s Construction Sector Coordinator. “Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU” he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe Ndima On Thu
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M'Afrika Masoga, with you experience in NACTU and SACWU what can we PAC members do to grow and bring militancy in NACTU and SACWU including other affiliates? On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.com wrote: Cadre Masoga we must applaud the good work you are doing in SACWU in union been controlled by workers not what we are seeing in other unions like BCAWU as a recent good example! On 9/20/13, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ndima I may speak of SACWU, negotiating with Ceppwawu GIwusa in the chemical Sector. Always we have both unions fighting over their splinter problems even 2013 Wage Negotiations we had the same problems but SACWU is leading both unions. NACTU policy is that decisions are taken by workers not officials not NEC not NOB and not GS. From where I stand it is NACTU policy that all Affiliates are supposed to be Worker Control and SACWU is one that is purely worker control. We have not yet fully have functioning structures in place. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU etc are examples of such in this case NUM is a victor against BCAWU it's a crucial lesson for revolutionaries. On 9/20/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM ‘s demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. “This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness” says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM ‘s Construction Sector Coordinator. “Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU” he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe Ndima On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Check Dedoorens land issue discussion. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:40:06 To: a...@pac.org.za; Sbusiso Xabasbusisox...@gmail.com; Albert Mokoena mokoen...@workmail.co.za; 0825164...@vodamail.co.za; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudinrkgag...@gmail.com; d...@pac.org.za; g...@bcawu.co.za g...@bcawu.co.za; Jabu Makhanyajabumakha...@yahoo.com; Thulani Khumalo tkhumal...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.compayco@googlegroups.com; pactshw...@googlegroup.co. Reply-To: mphi...@gmail.com Subject: Fw: REGISTER at our nearest IEC... REGISTER at our nearest IEC offices! It is your right to vote #2014Elections! Please register and vote PAC! SMS YES for PAC to contact or visit you in your area. Can we attempt and Register with all networks to fund raise for 2014 elections. Those with good IT skills can you come on board and assist? I have learned from Vhararists who send it to my wife. We can also send sms'es to all NACTU Affiliates, Friends, Neighbours all we know. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pan Africanist Youth Congress group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to payco+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Sending
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Ndima The only way is to Join NACTU Affiliates and take up Leadership at all levels Local, Regional, Provincial ultimately National to mobilize resources for the party. The main challenge is that we are infiltrated by Vhararists whom we dealing with on daily basis some oppose any ways and means to propagate the party to the Union membership. Absence of Africanist in the NACTU Affiliated unions make it difficult for us as officials who have no right to make decisions based on Total Worker Control principle which is the case in SACWU. Acting General Secretary is Jetty Edwin Matome Selapisha, President Mampho Mosehla, National Organiser Bosole Chidi, Officials myself, Lesiba Lekgoathi, Tumi Modise, Manyoro Lekota, William Matlala pure Africanist Card carrying members of PAC. We made strides in SaCWU PAC is known and PAC leadership always addresses all National Events, Tembisa Branch have full time PAC spokes person in SACWU Kgodiswana Rantho. About membership I can't comment I am a Branch Organiser based in Pretoria, Tembisa/Modderfontein is the highest, Mpumalanga is the second highest in SACWU so members come and go and service is anything by members. I can't guarantee that we are having the same vision on propagating PAC at all Levels but CADRES known to all I suppose do. Nactu I can't comment much due to the fact that there is no Local in Pretoria due to scarcity of Africanists in affiliates we will be similarly led by Vhararists or apolitical cowards whho will block every effort to propagate PAC. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:22:22 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 M'Afrika Masoga, with you experience in NACTU and SACWU what can we PAC members do to grow and bring militancy in NACTU and SACWU including other affiliates? On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.com wrote: Cadre Masoga we must applaud the good work you are doing in SACWU in union been controlled by workers not what we are seeing in other unions like BCAWU as a recent good example! On 9/20/13, Mphiri Masoga mphi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ndima I may speak of SACWU, negotiating with Ceppwawu GIwusa in the chemical Sector. Always we have both unions fighting over their splinter problems even 2013 Wage Negotiations we had the same problems but SACWU is leading both unions. NACTU policy is that decisions are taken by workers not officials not NEC not NOB and not GS. From where I stand it is NACTU policy that all Affiliates are supposed to be Worker Control and SACWU is one that is purely worker control. We have not yet fully have functioning structures in place. Kind Regards Mphiri Masoga SACWU -Original Message- From: Bongani Keith panmaz...@gmail.com Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:16:52 To: payco@googlegroups.com Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] LAND DISCUSSION SABC 2 I have been informed by such victory of workers under NUM while BCAWU accepted meagre increase that vindicates the notion of many we strongly know that workers struggles in comprador burgeous comrades who sleep with corporate bosses which is NUM, BCAWU etc are examples of such in this case NUM is a victor against BCAWU it's a crucial lesson for revolutionaries. On 9/20/13, Tongogara Ndima ndimatongog...@gmail.com wrote: Izwe lethu M'Afrika Comrade Masoga and BCAWU comrades please clarify this statement, some of us are worried because it seems NACTU and its affiliates have become yellow trade union not fighting exploitation of workers. The National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) has yet again scored a major victory in the construction sector, persuading employers through a three week long hard-hitting strike action to accede to further increases. The construction companies had earlier entered into a wage agreement with the Building, Construction and Allied Workers Union (BCAWU) for an increase of between 8 and 10% which the NUM rejected. The construction companies as represented by the South African Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors (SAFCEC) yesterday acceded to the NUM ‘s demands and granted the workers increments of up to 12%, ending the three week long strike action that halted major power built programmes. “This is a major victory for us. Our members stood firm and we congratulate them for the firmness” says Isaac Ntshangase, the NUM ‘s Construction Sector Coordinator. “Workers were able to see who is fooling whom and joined the NUM massively from BCAWU” he says. And can you also explain if NACTU and all its affiliates will support and campaign workers to vote PAC next year elections! Izwe
