Re: computer speakers and suround sound
Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brian briansackri...@att.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: computer speakers and suround sound
Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I spose smile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brian briansackri...@att.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Hi and thanks to those who provide me with valuable information on the Jawbone Jambox bluetooth speaker system http://www.jawbone.com You've heard it said I'm sure that the Jambox is an amazing piece of technology, I echo that statement without hesitation so if you're looking for a portable bluetooth speaker solution say for a phone or a music player then the Jambox by Jawbone is certainly worth the consideration. Jawbone say its the smallest speaker system on the planet? Well I don't know about that but there's no argument that Jambox is certainly small and yet sounds big! There seems to be a misconception that the Jambox only gives out mono sound, not true when playing music but perfectly true when using the speakerphone function. Pairing is easy, put the Jambox into Pairing mode by holding the power switch to the upmost position, Jambox confirms by saying Jambox Is In Pairing Mode let the switch go and connect your bluetooth device. Jambox has a line in socket so no matter what your audio source - whether it be your bluetooth device or your Notebook - you can Blast Away All Day, well for at least ten hours according to the manual which rates the battery life at that after a full charge. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
So how was it to navigate the web site to upgrade the firmware? Robert Carter mentioned that in his demonstration, and I'd like to know more about the web site challenges that you face when attempting to upgrade the machine. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
I haven't played much with that aspect of it yet. As I understand it there's no software upgrades available for it yet anyway so its not a terribly urgent issue for me, would be if something didn't work smile. On 13/11/2011, at 8:05 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: So how was it to navigate the web site to upgrade the firmware? Robert Carter mentioned that in his demonstration, and I'd like to know more about the web site challenges that you face when attempting to upgrade the machine. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: audio quality
my bad, I thought flac was apple lossless. -Original Message- From: Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Yes, but that could change now that Apple recently made it open source. I don't know what would make it any better than flac, shn, or any of the others except if you used an Ipod, now you can generate the files with other tools. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: RE: audio quality Ah see that's the thing about Apple Losless, If you use it, you have to play it either on your Ipod, or Itunes. So If you don't have them, or if you don't care for them, then what's the point? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality I heard that Apple made their lossless format open source. I'm not sure why they would do that or what makes it better or different than the rest besides it locked you in when it wasn't open source. I'm not sure if anyone made tools yet using it though if one doesn't use Itunes. - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: audio quality I don't use wma lossless, the bootleggers I deal with use flac, and it's not limited to windows. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: audio quality Yep, PCM 44100 KHZ 16 bit is fine for music, that's what CDs are anyways. Even wma lossless would be fine but only WMP can make it. That's why I wish Olympus would dump regular old WMA, and get WMA Losless on their recorders. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:24 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: audio quality in terms of audio quality for file types which is the best for archiving music/ or spoken word? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Logitech portable iPod docks
Hi! Thinking of getting one of these things, anyone have one? Was talking to someone a couple of days ago who raves about his. They're a portable speaker unit with an iPod dock on the top, they run on either Power or rechargeable battery for 8 hours. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: audio quality
FLAC is a lossless format but nothing whatever to do with Apple, FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Coding, not exactly sure about the last word so I'm sure someone will correct me on that point. On 13/11/2011, at 11:37 PM, Richard Claypool wrote: my bad, I thought flac was apple lossless. -Original Message- From: Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Yes, but that could change now that Apple recently made it open source. I don't know what would make it any better than flac, shn, or any of the others except if you used an Ipod, now you can generate the files with other tools. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: RE: audio quality Ah see that's the thing about Apple Losless, If you use it, you have to play it either on your Ipod, or Itunes. So If you don't have them, or if you don't care for them, then what's the point? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality I heard that Apple made their lossless format open source. I'm not sure why they would do that or what makes it better or different than the rest besides it locked you in when it wasn't open source. I'm not sure if anyone made tools yet using it though if one doesn't use Itunes. - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: audio quality I don't use wma lossless, the bootleggers I deal with use flac, and it's not limited to windows. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: audio quality Yep, PCM 44100 KHZ 16 bit is fine for music, that's what CDs are anyways. Even wma lossless would be fine but only WMP can make it. That's why I wish Olympus would dump regular old WMA, and get WMA Losless on their recorders. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:24 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: audio quality in terms of audio quality for file types which is the best for archiving music/ or spoken word? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: audio quality
Apple lossless is ALAC. I've never seen anything encoded with it however. On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Richard Claypool wrote: my bad, I thought flac was apple lossless. -Original Message- From: Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Yes, but that could change now that Apple recently made it open source. I don't know what would make it any better than flac, shn, or any of the others except if you used an Ipod, now you can generate the files with other tools. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: RE: audio quality Ah see that's the thing about Apple Losless, If you use it, you have to play it either on your Ipod, or Itunes. So If you don't have them, or if you don't care for them, then what's the point? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality I heard that Apple made their lossless format open source. I'm not sure why they would do that or what makes it better or different than the rest besides it locked you in when it wasn't open source. I'm not sure if anyone made tools yet using it though if one doesn't use Itunes. - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: audio quality I don't use wma lossless, the bootleggers I deal with use flac, and it's not limited to windows. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: audio quality Yep, PCM 44100 KHZ 16 bit is fine for music, that's what CDs are anyways. Even wma lossless would be fine but only WMP can make it. That's why I wish Olympus would dump regular old WMA, and get WMA Losless on their recorders. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:24 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: audio quality in terms of audio quality for file types which is the best for archiving music/ or spoken word? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: computer speakers and suround sound
How good are these Yamaha systems anyways Dain? I don't know if you want to call me on Skype to talk abiout them or E-mail me off list, but I've never heard anything from these guys, so I want to know how good they are. How theatrical they are. You see originally I wanted to use a Bose system, but they don't make 7.1 systems and so many movies are now 7.1. Jurrasic park is now 7.1 for instabnce. Starwars is now 6.1. So you see, what I mean, yeah, I know I said I was using a Bose system before, but it's the Companion 5 system. Don't get me wrong, they are cool for what they are, but that's the thing, they are a virtual surround sound system. It's only 2 speakers. Nothing beats actually having 5 speakers or now with most movies being 6 or 7.1, having 7 speakers. So yeah, if you could fill me in and let me know I'ed appreciate it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:25 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I spose smile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brian briansackri...@att.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: audio quality
I never knew who made apple flac, so misunderstood the message, thanks for the knowledge. -Original Message- From: David McLean Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:04 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Apple lossless is ALAC. I've never seen anything encoded with it however. On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Richard Claypool wrote: my bad, I thought flac was apple lossless. -Original Message- From: Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Yes, but that could change now that Apple recently made it open source. I don't know what would make it any better than flac, shn, or any of the others except if you used an Ipod, now you can generate the files with other tools. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: RE: audio quality Ah see that's the thing about Apple Losless, If you use it, you have to play it either on your Ipod, or Itunes. So If you don't have them, or if you don't care for them, then what's the point? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality I heard that Apple made their lossless format open source. I'm not sure why they would do that or what makes it better or different than the rest besides it locked you in when it wasn't open source. I'm not sure if anyone made tools yet using it though if one doesn't use Itunes. - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: audio quality I don't use wma lossless, the bootleggers I deal with use flac, and it's not limited to windows. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: audio quality Yep, PCM 44100 KHZ 16 bit is fine for music, that's what CDs are anyways. Even wma lossless would be fine but only WMP can make it. That's why I wish Olympus would dump regular old WMA, and get WMA Losless on their recorders. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:24 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: audio quality in terms of audio quality for file types which is the best for archiving music/ or spoken word? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: computer speakers and suround sound
For what they are they're not too bad, the one I'm buying is one of the Pro series they make but be warned! you pay! and in this case you don't pay too much, you should be able to get the one I'm referring to for under $1,000.00 and for a surround-sound receiver with its specs, works out quite cheap. If I had the money I'd like to get one of the new Denon units, near to perfection they are but above what I can afford right now. On 14/11/2011, at 3:31 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: How good are these Yamaha systems anyways Dain? I don't know if you want to call me on Skype to talk abiout them or E-mail me off list, but I've never heard anything from these guys, so I want to know how good they are. How theatrical they are. You see originally I wanted to use a Bose system, but they don't make 7.1 systems and so many movies are now 7.1. Jurrasic park is now 7.1 for instabnce. Starwars is now 6.1. So you see, what I mean, yeah, I know I said I was using a Bose system before, but it's the Companion 5 system. Don't get me wrong, they are cool for what they are, but that's the thing, they are a virtual surround sound system. It's only 2 speakers. Nothing beats actually having 5 speakers or now with most movies being 6 or 7.1, having 7 speakers. So yeah, if you could fill me in and let me know I'ed appreciate it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:25 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I spose smile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brian briansackri...@att.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: audio quality
Whilst they're different compression methods FLAC and Apple Lossless pretty much amount to the same thing when used, that is to say that when music is compressed using either of these encoding methods, the end result is lossless. AAC/AAC+ is not lossless compression nor is it Apple Lossless compression. On 14/11/2011, at 5:36 AM, Richard Claypool wrote: I never knew who made apple flac, so misunderstood the message, thanks for the knowledge. -Original Message- From: David McLean Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:04 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Apple lossless is ALAC. I've never seen anything encoded with it however. On Nov 13, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Richard Claypool wrote: my bad, I thought flac was apple lossless. -Original Message- From: Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:26 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality Yes, but that could change now that Apple recently made it open source. I don't know what would make it any better than flac, shn, or any of the others except if you used an Ipod, now you can generate the files with other tools. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: RE: audio quality Ah see that's the thing about Apple Losless, If you use it, you have to play it either on your Ipod, or Itunes. So If you don't have them, or if you don't care for them, then what's the point? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brent Harding Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: audio quality I heard that Apple made their lossless format open source. I'm not sure why they would do that or what makes it better or different than the rest besides it locked you in when it wasn't open source. I'm not sure if anyone made tools yet using it though if one doesn't use Itunes. - Original Message - From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: audio quality I don't use wma lossless, the bootleggers I deal with use flac, and it's not limited to windows. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 10:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: audio quality Yep, PCM 44100 KHZ 16 bit is fine for music, that's what CDs are anyways. Even wma lossless would be fine but only WMP can make it. That's why I wish Olympus would dump regular old WMA, and get WMA Losless on their recorders. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Sunshine Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:24 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: audio quality in terms of audio quality for file types which is the best for archiving music/ or spoken word? To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: computer speakers and suround sound
What's the unit you would get if you could? What moddle are you getting so I can look it up? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound For what they are they're not too bad, the one I'm buying is one of the Pro series they make but be warned! you pay! and in this case you don't pay too much, you should be able to get the one I'm referring to for under $1,000.00 and for a surround-sound receiver with its specs, works out quite cheap. If I had the money I'd like to get one of the new Denon units, near to perfection they are but above what I can afford right now. On 14/11/2011, at 3:31 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: How good are these Yamaha systems anyways Dain? I don't know if you want to call me on Skype to talk abiout them or E-mail me off list, but I've never heard anything from these guys, so I want to know how good they are. How theatrical they are. You see originally I wanted to use a Bose system, but they don't make 7.1 systems and so many movies are now 7.1. Jurrasic park is now 7.1 for instabnce. Starwars is now 6.1. So you see, what I mean, yeah, I know I said I was using a Bose system before, but it's the Companion 5 system. Don't get me wrong, they are cool for what they are, but that's the thing, they are a virtual surround sound system. It's only 2 speakers. Nothing beats actually having 5 speakers or now with most movies being 6 or 7.1, having 7 speakers. So yeah, if you could fill me in and let me know I'ed appreciate it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:25 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I spose smile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brian briansackri...@att.net To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
computer speakers and surround sound
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Re: computer speakers and suround sound
If I could I'd get the Denon unit featured at http://www.radioparts.com.au/ProdView.aspx?popup=1Category=SXAA3515Product=01611142ProdDesc=AVR4311BK+9.2CH+140W+AV+DENON+RECEIVER Now I'd give you the model of the Yamaha unit i plan to get next year however the link to the model has changed so I'm going to have to look it up again. I've had both Denon and Yahama amps and surround-sound receivers and I can say without hesitation that ifanyone bought anything from any of these names then they'd be most happy, another name that seems to impress these days is Onkyo. On 14/11/2011 8:59 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: What's the unit you would get if you could? What moddle are you getting so I can look it up? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound For what they are they're not too bad, the one I'm buying is one of the Pro series they make but be warned! you pay! and in this case you don't pay too much, you should be able to get the one I'm referring to for under $1,000.00 and for a surround-sound receiver with its specs, works out quite cheap. If I had the money I'd like to get one of the new Denon units, near to perfection they are but above what I can afford right now. On 14/11/2011, at 3:31 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: How good are these Yamaha systems anyways Dain? I don't know if you want to call me on Skype to talk abiout them or E-mail me off list, but I've never heard anything from these guys, so I want to know how good they are. How theatrical they are. You see originally I wanted to use a Bose system, but they don't make 7.1 systems and so many movies are now 7.1. Jurrasic park is now 7.1 for instabnce. Starwars is now 6.1. So you see, what I mean, yeah, I know I said I was using a Bose system before, but it's the Companion 5 system. Don't get me wrong, they are cool for what they are, but that's the thing, they are a virtual surround sound system. It's only 2 speakers. Nothing beats actually having 5 speakers or now with most movies being 6 or 7.1, having 7 speakers. So yeah, if you could fill me in and let me know I'ed appreciate it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:25 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I sposesmile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brianbriansackri...@att.net To:pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- sent from my HP Powerhouse Notebook. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
In Robert Carter's review, he makes a point of demonstrating the difference between normal mode and live or stereo mode. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Right, well I've not heard that review yet and yes! I've been meaning to listen to it. On 14/11/2011, at 10:20 AM, Clifford Blackwell wrote: In Robert Carter's review, he makes a point of demonstrating the difference between normal mode and live or stereo mode. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: computer speakers and suround sound
Ah okay then. I'l take a look at it in a bit. I've looked at some onkyo recevers to when I realized 7.1 might just be the way to go and Bose doesn't have any 7.1 systems . Some people just hate this, I don't think it'll be too long until they do it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound If I could I'd get the Denon unit featured at http://www.radioparts.com.au/ProdView.aspx?popup=1Category=SXAA3515Produc t=01611142ProdDesc=AVR4311BK+9.2CH+140W+AV+DENON+RECEIVER Now I'd give you the model of the Yamaha unit i plan to get next year however the link to the model has changed so I'm going to have to look it up again. I've had both Denon and Yahama amps and surround-sound receivers and I can say without hesitation that ifanyone bought anything from any of these names then they'd be most happy, another name that seems to impress these days is Onkyo. On 14/11/2011 8:59 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: What's the unit you would get if you could? What moddle are you getting so I can look it up? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:33 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound For what they are they're not too bad, the one I'm buying is one of the Pro series they make but be warned! you pay! and in this case you don't pay too much, you should be able to get the one I'm referring to for under $1,000.00 and for a surround-sound receiver with its specs, works out quite cheap. If I had the money I'd like to get one of the new Denon units, near to perfection they are but above what I can afford right now. On 14/11/2011, at 3:31 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: How good are these Yamaha systems anyways Dain? I don't know if you want to call me on Skype to talk abiout them or E-mail me off list, but I've never heard anything from these guys, so I want to know how good they are. How theatrical they are. You see originally I wanted to use a Bose system, but they don't make 7.1 systems and so many movies are now 7.1. Jurrasic park is now 7.1 for instabnce. Starwars is now 6.1. So you see, what I mean, yeah, I know I said I was using a Bose system before, but it's the Companion 5 system. Don't get me wrong, they are cool for what they are, but that's the thing, they are a virtual surround sound system. It's only 2 speakers. Nothing beats actually having 5 speakers or now with most movies being 6 or 7.1, having 7 speakers. So yeah, if you could fill me in and let me know I'ed appreciate it. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:25 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: computer speakers and suround sound Good idea, it will be interesting to see how the latest Yamaha surround-sound receiver I plan to buy next year goes, it has manual setting as far as I'm aware but by default you use a microphone. For example you sit in your favourite armchair once you've set the amp up and turn it on, the amp then plays tones through all the speakers and - by using feedback from the microphone you hold - it adjusts the volume for each channel in tern. Well, that's one way of doing it I sposesmile. On 13/11/2011, at 7:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Bryan! I do a test tone on my surround speakers from time to time, to be sure they're set right. - Original Message - From: brianbriansackri...@att.net To:pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 3:48 PM Subject: computer speakers and suround sound Hi this Brian Sackrider and I use bose computer speakers they cost about 100 dollars and do not take very much room on my desk and they sound good. I use to have a pioneer surond sound system htp 55 that cost about 400 dollars and I really did enjoy listening to music on it in my opinion this is the only way to listen to music. It had great sounding base and II really liked the seperation and concert hall or club effect. You just canâ?Tt get that kind of experence from a 2 speaker system. To the person that did like suround systems for music maybe the speakers were not properly placed or the volume for the indivitual speakers was not properly addjusted. On my system I could do a tone test to check the audio from all of the speakers. Also this person may have a hearing problem and may not be able to detect the sutle differences in the music. Also I have heard alltech lansing speakers and they do have better stereo seperation than anything that I have ever heard. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Dain, I'm sure there's information on the JamBox update page that tells how to invoke Live Audio Mode, but I first heard about it by listening to Robert Carter's review at http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ Live Audio Mode only works when connected via Bluetooth. If the update is installed, the speech in the JamBox announces Live Audio when you hold both volume controls down for a couple of seconds,, and you will hear the stereo effect expand. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Thanks for that, I had the link but couldn't get it to work at the time, this was 3 weeks ago and it may have been you who sent it to me. In the meantime? I can only speak from my experience so it will be most interesting to hear how another has got on with this. With my iPhone, the Jambox switches modes depending on what you're doing, when playing music it switches to stereo mode, when using the speakerphone it switches to voice mode, you can hear the difference quite certainly. On 14/11/2011, at 11:26 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, I'm sure there's information on the JamBox update page that tells how to invoke Live Audio Mode, but I first heard about it by listening to Robert Carter's review at http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ Live Audio Mode only works when connected via Bluetooth. If the update is installed, the speech in the JamBox announces Live Audio when you hold both volume controls down for a couple of seconds,, and you will hear the stereo effect expand. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Okay thanks, I now have the review, had trouble reading the page on the other computer system I have here for some reason smile. Thanks again On 14/11/2011 11:26 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, I'm sure there's information on the JamBox update page that tells how to invoke Live Audio Mode, but I first heard about it by listening to Robert Carter's review at http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ Live Audio Mode only works when connected via Bluetooth. If the update is installed, the speech in the JamBox announces Live Audio when you hold both volume controls down for a couple of seconds,, and you will hear the stereo effect expand. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia skype callto:grtdane12 MSN: grtd...@dane-trethowan.net To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Okay, here's the situation. The Live audio update Robert discusses in his podcast is not a critical firmware update, that is to say Jambox will function quite nicely with or without it. I was aware of the Live Audio add-on and I will download it perhaps as soon as I get my head around the Updater utility, as Robert says its not the easiest thing to use when using a Screen Reader smile. The procedure Robert goes through doesn't switch between stereo and normal mode, rather it switches the Live Audio component on or off. Live Audio is similar to say a 3D Affect on a hi-fi system, on Squeezebox Boom etc so its nice and handy sometimes. On 14/11/2011, at 11:26 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, I'm sure there's information on the JamBox update page that tells how to invoke Live Audio Mode, but I first heard about it by listening to Robert Carter's review at http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ Live Audio Mode only works when connected via Bluetooth. If the update is installed, the speech in the JamBox announces Live Audio when you hold both volume controls down for a couple of seconds,, and you will hear the stereo effect expand. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Where can I see this review by Robert carter? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clifford Blackwell Sent: 14 November 2011 01:21 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker In Robert Carter's review, he makes a point of demonstrating the difference between normal mode and live or stereo mode. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:36 PM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Who told you to hold both volume controls down? I've never heard of this before. I'm not saying your wrong. Up till now I've controlled my iPod from the unit itself. On 14/11/2011, at 5:43 AM, Gary King wrote: Dain, Did your JamBox come with the Live Audio update installed? The one I ordered from AMAZON.COM didn't. The first thing I tried after starting music on my iPod Touch was to hold both volume buttons down to start Live Audio Mode, but nothing happened. I then went to the web site and installed the JawBone Updater. This program opens the update page, and I found that the free NVDA screen reader seemed to work a little better than either JFW or Window-Eyes on this page. After updating, Live Audio was impressive for its ability to spread the stereo effect from such a small speaker. Of course, for Live Audio to work properly, you must sit directly in front of the speaker at the optimum distance. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker Okay well a couple of points I'd like to comment on. I know various people around the world who have them and who have tested the update software. Yep, it would appear to be a challenge for a blind person to use it would seem, the people I know have sight so they've used it and all report that no updates are available at this time. I take your point about bluetooth devices but you certainly do not need a bluetooth device on hand to use one of these things, as I said they have a line-in socket thus make a truly marvelous portable speaker system, I plug a very nice Denon tuner into mine for example. On 13/11/2011, at 8:53 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: OK, well if you could let us know when you do get to that, if you do, as maybe some units, purchased from various sellers around the world, might not be selling the unit with the latest upgrades in. If I had the unit, I would go test this myself, but I need to wait until I get a bluetooth device yet, which is a bit down the road for me. Thanks a lot. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
If you'll go to: http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ you'll find the demo for download. Just so you know, this page takes about a minute to load up, for some reason. The audio demo is about ten minutes long, and as we've been discussing on this subject, he doesn't go through the updating process on the web site, thus our recent discussion of that aspect of owning this unit. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
-Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis Sent: 14 November 2011 08:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker If you'll go to: http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ you'll find the demo for download. Just so you know, this page takes about a minute to load up, for some reason. The audio demo is about ten minutes long, and as we've been discussing on this subject, he doesn't go through the updating process on the web site, thus our recent discussion of that aspect of owning this unit. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: Thanx!pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker
Sounds interesting. I'm trying to get an idea of size for myself. Would this be something you could actually carry along with you or not? Say for example with a netbook? I wouldn't listen to music on this but for the size for something like speech reproduction the sound is very good indeed. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis Sent: 14 November 2011 08:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Jawbone Jambox portable bluetooth speaker If you'll go to: http://robertcarter.posterous.com/ you'll find the demo for download. Just so you know, this page takes about a minute to load up, for some reason. The audio demo is about ten minutes long, and as we've been discussing on this subject, he doesn't go through the updating process on the web site, thus our recent discussion of that aspect of owning this unit. Matthew To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
