RE: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October 2014

2014-10-13 Thread Michael Mote
Tina, there is a very nice side-by-side comparison of the KNFB reader App,
and other OCR apps.  You can find it by visiting 
http://www.coolblindtech.com.  There is a podcast there that shows you more
about the KNFB reader.  It seems to work very well.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tina
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:48 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with
the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October
2014

Hi Gary and all, 

I upgraded to the 7.1, and I've had a lot of problems with Siri. It's very
frustrating. I would like to eventually get the KNFB reader app, but I'm
wondering how everything will work together. That's been my experience. 

Tina   

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:22 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with
the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October
2014

I'm an iPhone 5 user.  I use Siri and Voice Over for most of what I do with
a phone--send text messages, make calls.  I upgraded to 8 because of an
article much like the one in this message which I have just read most if not
all of.  I'm now using 8.0.2.  I have had enough problems with VO and Siri
that I re-installed 8.0.2.  Some slight improvement after that but not much.

The problem I have in particular is the inability to place a call or send a
text message reliably.  To me, that, and not the bells and whistles, is why
I got the phone.  Whether my experience is typical I cannot say.  Nor can I
say whether it's because of my 16-G iPhone 5.  But, unless you really need
the bells and whistles, I'd be somewhat cautious about the upgrade.  Hype is
nice, but I've already seen the Jetsons world and I can't use a device
because of hype.

- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:13 AM
Subject: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with the
Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October 2014


If You're thinking about upgrading to IOS 8, already done the upgrade or
just want to find out what all the fuss is about when it comes to the new
iPhones as far as audio and accessibility etc goes then I strongly recommend
you read this article.

http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw151003

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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RE: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October 2014

2014-10-13 Thread Tina Wilson
Thanks Michael, 

Appreciate the info. 

Tina 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:06 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with
the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October
2014

Tina, there is a very nice side-by-side comparison of the KNFB reader App,
and other OCR apps.  You can find it by visiting
http://www.coolblindtech.com.  There is a podcast there that shows you more
about the KNFB reader.  It seems to work very well.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tina
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:48 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with
the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October
2014

Hi Gary and all, 

I upgraded to the 7.1, and I've had a lot of problems with Siri. It's very
frustrating. I would like to eventually get the KNFB reader app, but I'm
wondering how everything will work together. That's been my experience. 

Tina   

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
Petraccaro
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:22 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with
the Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October
2014

I'm an iPhone 5 user.  I use Siri and Voice Over for most of what I do with
a phone--send text messages, make calls.  I upgraded to 8 because of an
article much like the one in this message which I have just read most if not
all of.  I'm now using 8.0.2.  I have had enough problems with VO and Siri
that I re-installed 8.0.2.  Some slight improvement after that but not much.

The problem I have in particular is the inability to place a call or send a
text message reliably.  To me, that, and not the bells and whistles, is why
I got the phone.  Whether my experience is typical I cannot say.  Nor can I
say whether it's because of my 16-G iPhone 5.  But, unless you really need
the bells and whistles, I'd be somewhat cautious about the upgrade.  Hype is
nice, but I've already seen the Jetsons world and I can't use a device
because of hype.

- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:13 AM
Subject: Evaluation: iPhone 6 and iOS 8: A Look at Accessibility with the
Help of iOS Without the Eye, by Jonathan Mosen - AccessWorldR - October 2014


If You're thinking about upgrading to IOS 8, already done the upgrade or
just want to find out what all the fuss is about when it comes to the new
iPhones as far as audio and accessibility etc goes then I strongly recommend
you read this article.

http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw151003

**

Dane Trethowan
grtd...@internode.on.net
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane













RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

2014-10-13 Thread dan Thompson
No I did not use a mic.  Usually it does it with using a mic.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Wait, I think you missed a step. Did you use your mike? Or What you hear?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:53 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Hi All,

Once I could ghave an audio file or program playing via the internet and
record it in progress with soundforge via streaming.  Now I can not and
belive something got accidently changed on my end.  I would genuinely be
greatful to someone helping to make this feature return.  Here is how I have
recorded a streaming file in the past.

I am using Windows Seven professional.  

System Access in my primary screenreading software.  However, I do have
access to JAWS, Window-eyes and NVDA.

 

1.Open Soundforge.

2.  Press control plus the letter r to start the recording process.

3.  Press alt plus r to start the actual recording.

4.  Access the internet and locate the sound byte I wish to record. Then
start that sound byte playing

5.  When the audio is finished, go back to soundforge and press escape twice
to stop the recording.

6.  Edit out the unwanted material at the beginning of this recording and
save the final product.

That is how it was done up to about a week ago.

Now when trying to record from streaming audio folloing the above steps,
nothing records.

Thanks again for any help.

 


God, who does not sleep and who awakens us from sleep that we may ask,
gives much more graciously. 

Augustine of Hippo

 


 

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RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

2014-10-13 Thread Hamit Campos
Interesting. Can you record your self with a mike still though? This is very
strange.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

No I did not use a mic.  Usually it does it with using a mic.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Wait, I think you missed a step. Did you use your mike? Or What you hear?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:53 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Hi All,

Once I could ghave an audio file or program playing via the internet and
record it in progress with soundforge via streaming.  Now I can not and
belive something got accidently changed on my end.  I would genuinely be
greatful to someone helping to make this feature return.  Here is how I have
recorded a streaming file in the past.

I am using Windows Seven professional.  

System Access in my primary screenreading software.  However, I do have
access to JAWS, Window-eyes and NVDA.

 

1.Open Soundforge.

2.  Press control plus the letter r to start the recording process.

3.  Press alt plus r to start the actual recording.

4.  Access the internet and locate the sound byte I wish to record. Then
start that sound byte playing

5.  When the audio is finished, go back to soundforge and press escape twice
to stop the recording.

6.  Edit out the unwanted material at the beginning of this recording and
save the final product.

That is how it was done up to about a week ago.

Now when trying to record from streaming audio folloing the above steps,
nothing records.

Thanks again for any help.

 


God, who does not sleep and who awakens us from sleep that we may ask,
gives much more graciously. 

Augustine of Hippo

 


 

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RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

2014-10-13 Thread dan Thompson
Yes,  I use the mixer I have attached to the computer.  But I can also
record via the mich jack.
Thanks for responding.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:58 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Interesting. Can you record your self with a mike still though? This is very
strange.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

No I did not use a mic.  Usually it does it with using a mic.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Wait, I think you missed a step. Did you use your mike? Or What you hear?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:53 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Hi All,

Once I could ghave an audio file or program playing via the internet and
record it in progress with soundforge via streaming.  Now I can not and
belive something got accidently changed on my end.  I would genuinely be
greatful to someone helping to make this feature return.  Here is how I have
recorded a streaming file in the past.

I am using Windows Seven professional.  

System Access in my primary screenreading software.  However, I do have
access to JAWS, Window-eyes and NVDA.

 

1.Open Soundforge.

2.  Press control plus the letter r to start the recording process.

3.  Press alt plus r to start the actual recording.

4.  Access the internet and locate the sound byte I wish to record. Then
start that sound byte playing

5.  When the audio is finished, go back to soundforge and press escape twice
to stop the recording.

6.  Edit out the unwanted material at the beginning of this recording and
save the final product.

That is how it was done up to about a week ago.

Now when trying to record from streaming audio folloing the above steps,
nothing records.

Thanks again for any help.

 


God, who does not sleep and who awakens us from sleep that we may ask,
gives much more graciously. 

Augustine of Hippo

 


 

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RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

2014-10-13 Thread Hamit Campos
You're welcome.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:06 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Yes,  I use the mixer I have attached to the computer.  But I can also
record via the mich jack.
Thanks for responding.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:58 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Interesting. Can you record your self with a mike still though? This is very
strange.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

No I did not use a mic.  Usually it does it with using a mic.  

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Wait, I think you missed a step. Did you use your mike? Or What you hear?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of dan
Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:53 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: question on streaming audio with SoundForge

Hi All,

Once I could ghave an audio file or program playing via the internet and
record it in progress with soundforge via streaming.  Now I can not and
belive something got accidently changed on my end.  I would genuinely be
greatful to someone helping to make this feature return.  Here is how I have
recorded a streaming file in the past.

I am using Windows Seven professional.  

System Access in my primary screenreading software.  However, I do have
access to JAWS, Window-eyes and NVDA.

 

1.Open Soundforge.

2.  Press control plus the letter r to start the recording process.

3.  Press alt plus r to start the actual recording.

4.  Access the internet and locate the sound byte I wish to record. Then
start that sound byte playing

5.  When the audio is finished, go back to soundforge and press escape twice
to stop the recording.

6.  Edit out the unwanted material at the beginning of this recording and
save the final product.

That is how it was done up to about a week ago.

Now when trying to record from streaming audio folloing the above steps,
nothing records.

Thanks again for any help.

 


God, who does not sleep and who awakens us from sleep that we may ask,
gives much more graciously. 

Augustine of Hippo

 


 

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Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

I know I've already replied to this eMail but I thought I'd reply again as I've 
given the subject under discussion a great deal of thought.

You want to transfer your media content such as music and so forth from your 
iPhone to your Windows PC using a USB cable as though your iPhone were a hard 
drive right/

Well I'm not so sure that this will be as straight forward as we thought it 
would be and I'm not surprised to hear that you didn't have any success with 
those Apps which allow the sharing of data between iPods and computers.

As I understand it - someone will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure smile. - 
iPod sharing Apps were written in the days of the iPod Nano, Shuffle etc well 
before the iPhones we're using now came along so - if that's the case - then 
these sharing Apps probably won't work given the iPhone has a different data 
distribution system, in effect the iPhone is locked and I think the only way to 
share your iPhones data openly - say music you've downloaded from the iTunes 
store or music you've aded to your music collection through iTunes - is to jail 
break the iPhone.



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above eMail to you.


 On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:46 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, yeah, I was just reading up on the Camera kit for the IPad, after I sent 
 my last message.
 Unfortunately, the page I found was from 2010, so not sure how accurate the 
 info would be now.
 May still be worth checking it out if the kit isn't super expensive, if it 
 still works on the 6 plus and IOS8.
 It's worth noting here though, that it's apparently necessary to jailbreak, 
 in order to have access to the filesystem of the IPads, but the ability to 
 use USB devices, keyboards, microphones, etc sounds pretty neat if it still 
 works.
 This brings me to ask another question or two, but I'll begin it in a new 
 subject to keep things organized.
 Thanks and take care.
 Blessings.
 
 On 10/12/2014 8:26 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Yes, I believe so, its the camera kit though I've never played with it and 
 am not sure which IOS devices are supported with it these days.
 
 On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:14 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You mention here an adapter from apple that allows you to move files, I 
 assume media specifically, over to directories on the phone from the 
 computer. Do these adapters require software to go along side them to allow 
 access to the phone's filesystem, software like sharepod, etc, and does 
 this allow you to pull music from the device, even without having to have 
 the files already stored within ITunes on the computer? I understand that 
 installing some sort of file manager on the phone would give partial access 
 to those areas allowed to it, if it were connected to dropbox or a wireless 
 device as you mentioned here, but how well does that work for all types of 
 media other than music, like audio books. Also, does installing a file 
 manager on the phone give complete access to all media on a phone, without 
 you having to jealbreak?
 I'm mainly curious as one major downfall I have with storing my music and 
 books on my phone is the ability to retrieve them from the phone if I no 
 longer have them in my ITunes library on my computer. There's plenty of 
 software for doing this, but as far as I've been able to figure out, not 
 much of it is accessible.
 If I could purchase an device to make a connection from the phone to the 
 computer and have the ability to copy my media straight over to the phone, 
 I'd be a happy camper for sure.
 Thanks.
 Blessings.
 
 On 10/12/2014 7:36 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Hi!
 
 I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons, 
 the main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth 
 says that its impossible! to play third party content such as different 
 audio file formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
 This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s “Music 
 Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every operating 
 system with its built-in features does have its limitations, you cannot - 
 as far as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example 
 unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring to the 
 same type of problem but with different operating systems.
 
 The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter 
 available from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your 
 computer over a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of 
 your choosing but again, there are ways around that snag.
 
 Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what can 
 be done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
 The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good one’s out 
 there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two, oOplayer and File 
 Browser, both do exactly what their names 

RE: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is very
interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files with
the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more knowledge of
hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player or mobile phone or
smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer and copy the files to the
device or I can insert large sd drives plus having the possibilities you
mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music with a
non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to accept the more
tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an app here and a hard
drive there. 
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music to
listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I usually don't
and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which involves other ways of
compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 Hi!
 
 I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons,
the
 main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth says
 that its impossible! to play third party content such as different audio
file
 formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
 This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s “Music
 Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every operating
 system with its built-in features does have its limitations, you cannot -
as far
 as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example unless you
 use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring to the same type
of
 problem but with different operating systems.
 
 The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter
available
 from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer over
 a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your choosing
but
 again, there are ways around that snag.
 
 Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what can
be
 done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
 The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good one’s out
 there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two, oOplayer and File
 Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.
 
 With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
 computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
 when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or view.
 
 Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
 want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
 aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a specific
 point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on your iPhone
 where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to your hearts
 content.
 
 So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones have only
so
 much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of files
 you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music collection is
in a
 Lossless format that takes up a good deal of space?
 
 If this is the case then its time to look at a pocket sized hard drive
with a
 built-in Wi-Fi network, I mentioned my Skyshare drive towards the end of
 last week and this drive has its own built-in Wi-Fi network which the
iPhone
 can connect to.
 
 Once connected the Apps I mentioned earlier - oOplayer and File Browser -
 have direct access to the drive thus the content you’ve placed too the
drive.
 
 The Skyshare drive on the surface looks like any other portable hard
drive, it
 has a USB port on the back for connection to a computer with a USB 3.0
port
 for the copying and manipulation of content, you can also use the Wi-Fi
 abilities of the drive for copying/manipulating files though this process
is
 considerably slower when compared to USB 3.0 or even 2.
 
 





Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread ken reed

Hi,  I just installed dropbox on my Iphone and Ipad.
What you might do, is because dropbox allows you to share files, is:
use this to share to another I device, or maby share to a pc.

Dropbox will play the files be they mp3 or mp4.

I haven't tried this in reverse.
That is moveing files from the Iphone to the computer.
Just incase I didn't menchion this  dropbox must be installed on both 
machines.

Do the computer first.,  Then the iphone..


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I know I've already replied to this eMail but I thought I'd reply again as 
I've given the subject under discussion a great deal of thought.


You want to transfer your media content such as music and so forth from your 
iPhone to your Windows PC using a USB cable as though your iPhone were a 
hard drive right/


Well I'm not so sure that this will be as straight forward as we thought it 
would be and I'm not surprised to hear that you didn't have any success with 
those Apps which allow the sharing of data between iPods and computers.


As I understand it - someone will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure 
smile. - iPod sharing Apps were written in the days of the iPod Nano, 
Shuffle etc well before the iPhones we're using now came along so - if 
that's the case - then these sharing Apps probably won't work given the 
iPhone has a different data distribution system, in effect the iPhone is 
locked and I think the only way to share your iPhones data openly - say 
music you've downloaded from the iTunes store or music you've aded to your 
music collection through iTunes - is to jail break the iPhone.




Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of delivering 
the above eMail to you.




On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:46 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah, yeah, I was just reading up on the Camera kit for the IPad, after I 
sent my last message.
Unfortunately, the page I found was from 2010, so not sure how accurate 
the info would be now.
May still be worth checking it out if the kit isn't super expensive, if it 
still works on the 6 plus and IOS8.
It's worth noting here though, that it's apparently necessary to 
jailbreak, in order to have access to the filesystem of the IPads, but the 
ability to use USB devices, keyboards, microphones, etc sounds pretty neat 
if it still works.
This brings me to ask another question or two, but I'll begin it in a new 
subject to keep things organized.

Thanks and take care.
Blessings.


On 10/12/2014 8:26 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes, I believe so, its the camera kit though I've never played with it 
and am not sure which IOS devices are supported with it these days.



On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:14 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:

You mention here an adapter from apple that allows you to move files, I 
assume media specifically, over to directories on the phone from the 
computer. Do these adapters require software to go along side them to 
allow access to the phone's filesystem, software like sharepod, etc, and 
does this allow you to pull music from the device, even without having 
to have the files already stored within ITunes on the computer? I 
understand that installing some sort of file manager on the phone would 
give partial access to those areas allowed to it, if it were connected 
to dropbox or a wireless device as you mentioned here, but how well does 
that work for all types of media other than music, like audio books. 
Also, does installing a file manager on the phone give complete access 
to all media on a phone, without you having to jealbreak?
I'm mainly curious as one major downfall I have with storing my music 
and books on my phone is the ability to retrieve them from the phone if 
I no longer have them in my ITunes library on my computer. There's 
plenty of software for doing this, but as far as I've been able to 
figure out, not much of it is accessible.
If I could purchase an device to make a connection from the phone to the 
computer and have the ability to copy my media straight over to the 
phone, I'd be a happy camper for sure.

Thanks.
Blessings.


On 10/12/2014 7:36 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons, 
the main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth 
says that its impossible! to play third party content such as different 
audio file formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.


This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s 
“Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every 
operating system with its built-in features does have its limitations, 
you cannot - as far as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player 
for example unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re 
referring to the same type of problem but with different operating 
systems.


The other 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

Okay a few things here.

We did cover the Dropbox thing earlier on in the thread if you'd like to 
reference it.


The point here is that files transferred onto an iPhone using iTunes 
cannot be accessed on Dropbox or anywhere else - unless you have some 
means of putting them there in the first place.


Now this of course is further complicated by several factors, if you've 
transferred your files from iTunes on your computer to your iPhone then 
there's a reasonable chance that you can copy the files across to your 
Dropbox from there but if you've downloaded to your iPhone directly from 
the iTunes Store or just haven't downloaded at all and just stream your 
purchases etc from iTunes then Dropbox doesn't mean all that much smile.


On 14/10/2014 3:23 AM, ken reed wrote:

Hi,  I just installed dropbox on my Iphone and Ipad.
What you might do, is because dropbox allows you to share files, is:
use this to share to another I device, or maby share to a pc.

Dropbox will play the files be they mp3 or mp4.

I haven't tried this in reverse.
That is moveing files from the Iphone to the computer.
Just incase I didn't menchion this  dropbox must be installed on both 
machines.

Do the computer first.,  Then the iphone..


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I know I've already replied to this eMail but I thought I'd reply 
again as I've given the subject under discussion a great deal of thought.


You want to transfer your media content such as music and so forth 
from your iPhone to your Windows PC using a USB cable as though your 
iPhone were a hard drive right/


Well I'm not so sure that this will be as straight forward as we 
thought it would be and I'm not surprised to hear that you didn't have 
any success with those Apps which allow the sharing of data between 
iPods and computers.


As I understand it - someone will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure 
smile. - iPod sharing Apps were written in the days of the iPod 
Nano, Shuffle etc well before the iPhones we're using now came along 
so - if that's the case - then these sharing Apps probably won't work 
given the iPhone has a different data distribution system, in effect 
the iPhone is locked and I think the only way to share your iPhones 
data openly - say music you've downloaded from the iTunes store or 
music you've aded to your music collection through iTunes - is to jail 
break the iPhone.




Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of 
delivering the above eMail to you.




On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:46 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah, yeah, I was just reading up on the Camera kit for the IPad, after 
I sent my last message.
Unfortunately, the page I found was from 2010, so not sure how 
accurate the info would be now.
May still be worth checking it out if the kit isn't super expensive, 
if it still works on the 6 plus and IOS8.
It's worth noting here though, that it's apparently necessary to 
jailbreak, in order to have access to the filesystem of the IPads, 
but the ability to use USB devices, keyboards, microphones, etc 
sounds pretty neat if it still works.
This brings me to ask another question or two, but I'll begin it in a 
new subject to keep things organized.

Thanks and take care.
Blessings.


On 10/12/2014 8:26 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes, I believe so, its the camera kit though I've never played with 
it and am not sure which IOS devices are supported with it these days.



On 13 Oct 2014, at 1:14 pm, Jeremy icu8...@gmail.com wrote:

You mention here an adapter from apple that allows you to move 
files, I assume media specifically, over to directories on the 
phone from the computer. Do these adapters require software to go 
along side them to allow access to the phone's filesystem, software 
like sharepod, etc, and does this allow you to pull music from the 
device, even without having to have the files already stored within 
ITunes on the computer? I understand that installing some sort of 
file manager on the phone would give partial access to those areas 
allowed to it, if it were connected to dropbox or a wireless device 
as you mentioned here, but how well does that work for all types of 
media other than music, like audio books. Also, does installing a 
file manager on the phone give complete access to all media on a 
phone, without you having to jealbreak?
I'm mainly curious as one major downfall I have with storing my 
music and books on my phone is the ability to retrieve them from 
the phone if I no longer have them in my ITunes library on my 
computer. There's plenty of software for doing this, but as far as 
I've been able to figure out, not much of it is accessible.
If I could purchase an device to make a connection from the phone 
to the computer and have the ability to copy my media straight over 
to the phone, I'd be a happy camper for sure.

Thanks.

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get 
rather complex as you've said.


I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of 
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any 
IOS or device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I 
may enjoy my collection at any time, so far so good.


As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party 
solution as I detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got 
the Skyshare Drive and started playing with other Apps to get that music 
onto my iPhone or at least have access to it so I needen't bother with 
iTunes.



On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is very
interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files with
the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more knowledge of
hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player or mobile phone or
smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer and copy the files to the
device or I can insert large sd drives plus having the possibilities you
mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music with a
non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to accept the more
tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an app here and a hard
drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music to
listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I usually don't
and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which involves other ways of
compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth says
that its impossible! to play third party content such as different audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s “Music
Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every operating
system with its built-in features does have its limitations, you cannot -

as far

as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example unless you
use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring to the same type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available

from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer over
a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good one’s out
there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two, oOplayer and File
Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.

With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or view.

Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a specific
point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on your iPhone
where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to your hearts
content.

So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones have only

so

much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of files
you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music collection is

in a

Lossless format that takes up a good deal of space?

If this is the case then its time to look at a pocket sized hard drive

with a

built-in Wi-Fi network, I mentioned my Skyshare drive towards the end of
last week and this drive has its own built-in Wi-Fi network which the

iPhone

can connect to.

Once connected the Apps I mentioned earlier - oOplayer and File Browser -
have direct access to the drive thus the content you’ve placed too the

drive.

The Skyshare drive on the surface looks like any other portable hard

drive, it

has a USB port on the back for connection to a computer with a USB 3.0

port

for the copying and manipulation of content, you can also use the Wi-Fi
abilities of the drive for copying/manipulating files though this process

is

considerably slower when compared to USB 3.0 or even 2.










Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread ken reed

Hi,  I'm sory for my sugestion,  I thautht I could help.

I'll keep my mouth shut.


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any
IOS or device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
may enjoy my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
solution as I detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got
the Skyshare Drive and started playing with other Apps to get that music
onto my iPhone or at least have access to it so I needen't bother with
iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is 
very

interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files with
the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more knowledge of
hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player or mobile phone 
or
smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer and copy the files to 
the

device or I can insert large sd drives plus having the possibilities you
mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music with 
a

non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to accept the more
tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an app here and a hard
drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music to
listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I usually 
don't
and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which involves other ways 
of

compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth says
that its impossible! to play third party content such as different audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s 
“Music
Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every 
operating

system with its built-in features does have its limitations, you cannot -

as far
as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example unless 
you

use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring to the same type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available

from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer over
a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good one’s 
out
there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two, oOplayer and 
File

Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.

With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or view.

Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a specific
point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on your iPhone
where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to your hearts
content.

So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones have 
only

so

much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of files
you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music collection is

in a

Lossless format that takes up a good deal of space?

If this is the case then its time to look at a pocket sized hard drive

with a

built-in Wi-Fi network, I mentioned my Skyshare drive towards the end of
last week and this drive has its own built-in Wi-Fi network which the

iPhone

can connect to.

Once connected the Apps I mentioned earlier - oOplayer and File Browser -
have direct access to the drive thus the content you’ve placed too the

drive.

The Skyshare drive on the surface looks like any other portable hard

drive, it

has a USB port on the back for connection to a computer with a USB 3.0

port

for the copying and 

RE: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from that,
you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you have to
set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive for example.


 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
 rather complex as you've said.
 
 I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of
 Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any IOS
or
 device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may
enjoy
 my collection at any time, so far so good.
 
 As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
solution as I
 detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the Skyshare Drive
and
 started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or at
least
 have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.
 
 
 On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
  Hi Dane,
 
  I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is
  very interesting and of course true.
  The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files
  with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
  knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player
  or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer
  and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives plus
  having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.
 
  So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
  with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
  accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
  app here and a hard drive there.
  I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music
  to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I
  usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
  involves other ways of compromising. Smiles
 
  Take care
  Alexandra
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  Hi!
 
  I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
  reasons,
  the
  main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth
  says that its impossible! to play third party content such as
  different audio
  file
  formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
  This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s
  “Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as
  every operating system with its built-in features does have its
  limitations, you cannot -
  as far
  as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
  unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring
  to the same type
  of
  problem but with different operating systems.
 
  The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter
  available
  from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer
  over a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your
  choosing
  but
  again, there are ways around that snag.
 
  Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what
  can
  be
  done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
  The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
  one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two,
  oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.
 
  With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
  computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
  when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or
view.
 
  Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
  want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
  aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a
  specific point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on
  your iPhone where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to
  your hearts content.
 
  So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones have
  only
  so
  much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of
  files you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music
  collection is
  in a
  Lossless format that takes up a good deal of space?
 
  If this is the case then its time to look at a pocket sized hard
  drive
  with a
  built-in Wi-Fi network, I mentioned my Skyshare drive towards the end
  of last week and 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Jeremy
Don't be sorry for any type of suggestion, as it just adds more content 
for the list. That's my thinking at least. Either way, as has been 
stated here, those of us using any of the IOS devices do have to jump 
through a few more hoops than other types of phone/tablets, but, luckily 
for me, once I get my stuff on the phone I don't tend to change it a 
lot. I normally don't even mind using ITunes to manage my media, but as 
I said before, it does have a few downfalls. I may take a look at this 
wireless portable hd though, that looks pretty awesome.

Take care and blessings.

On 10/13/2014 12:01 PM, ken reed wrote:

Hi,  I'm sory for my sugestion,  I thautht I could help.

I'll keep my mouth shut.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any
IOS or device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
may enjoy my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
solution as I detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got
the Skyshare Drive and started playing with other Apps to get that music
onto my iPhone or at least have access to it so I needen't bother with
iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said 
is very

interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files 
with

the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more knowledge of
hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player or mobile 
phone or
smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer and copy the files 
to the

device or I can insert large sd drives plus having the possibilities you
mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music 
with a
non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to accept the 
more

tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an app here and a hard
drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music to
listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I usually 
don't
and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which involves other 
ways of

compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of reasons,

the
main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth 
says
that its impossible! to play third party content such as different 
audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s 
“Music
Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as every 
operating
system with its built-in features does have its limitations, you 
cannot -

as far
as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example 
unless you
use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring to the same 
type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available
from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer 
over

a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on 
what can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good 
one’s out
there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two, oOplayer 
and File

Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.

With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or 
view.


Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a 
specific
point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on your 
iPhone

where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to your hearts
content.

So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones 
have only

so
much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of 
files
you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music 
collection is

in a

Lossless 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active all the 
time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you don't?

On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote:

 Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
 complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from that,
 you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you have to
 set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive for example.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
 rather complex as you've said.
 
 I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of
 Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any IOS
 or
 device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may
 enjoy
 my collection at any time, so far so good.
 
 As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
 solution as I
 detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the Skyshare Drive
 and
 started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or at
 least
 have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.
 
 
 On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
 Hi Dane,
 
 I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is
 very interesting and of course true.
 The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files
 with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
 knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player
 or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer
 and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives plus
 having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.
 
 So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
 with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
 accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
 app here and a hard drive there.
 I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music
 to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I
 usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
 involves other ways of compromising. Smiles
 
 Take care
 Alexandra
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 Hi!
 
 I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
 reasons,
 the
 main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth
 says that its impossible! to play third party content such as
 different audio
 file
 formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
 This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s
 “Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as
 every operating system with its built-in features does have its
 limitations, you cannot -
 as far
 as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
 unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring
 to the same type
 of
 problem but with different operating systems.
 
 The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter
 available
 from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer
 over a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your
 choosing
 but
 again, there are ways around that snag.
 
 Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what
 can
 be
 done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
 The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
 one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two,
 oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.
 
 With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
 computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
 when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or
 view.
 
 Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
 want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
 aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a
 specific point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on
 your iPhone where you can browse, play and manipulate your files to
 your hearts content.
 
 So this brings us to another possibly challenging topic, iPhones have
 only
 so
 much storage space so what if you have thousands upon thousands of
 files you wish to access at any one time or supposing your music
 collection is
 in a
 Lossless format that takes up a good deal of space?
 
 If this is the 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Jeremy
I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a 
wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the ability to 
have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty sweet. Is it 
possible to make a wireless connection to the hd directly, or does it 
require a router? Also, how about running/charging this little monster 
from a car's cigarette plug for power?

Take care.

On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active all the 
time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you don't?

On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote:


Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from that,
you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you have to
set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive for example.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I

detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the Skyshare Drive

and

started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said is
very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files
with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player
or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer
and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives plus
having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music
to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I
usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
involves other ways of compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth
says that its impossible! to play third party content such as
different audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s
“Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as
every operating system with its built-in features does have its
limitations, you cannot -

as far

as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring
to the same type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available

from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your computer
over a USB connection to a particular folder on your iPhone of your
choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on what
can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two,
oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.

With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox account,
computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device and so on,
when configured you can then select what files you wish to hear or

view.

Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network and
want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both the
aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from a
specific point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a folder on
your iPhone where you can browse, 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi!

The Skyshare HD connects directly to your Wi-Fi of your iPhone so let's 
run a scenario past the list so as better to explain how it all works.


You're sitting on a park bench with iPhone and Skyshare drive in tow.

You wish to listen to some music so you reach for your Skyshare and 
press the power button, hold for a second or so to make sure Drive is 
switched on, you'll feel the drive power up.


Return the drive to your bag, pocket or whatever.

Next unlock your iPhone and proceed to settings, go to Wi-Fi and select 
the Skyshare Wi-Fi network, enter a password where applicable and 
double-tap on join.


Note that if you've previously joined your Skyshare drive's Wi-Fi, 
entered the Password and have Join Networks Automatically enabled under 
the Wi-Fi Settings of your iPhone then your iPhone will automatically 
join Skyshare as soon as it detects the Drive can be accessed.


Next from your iPhone launch your favourite Player App, find Skyshare 
and open the Music folder, browse to the songs you want or use the 
buttons to select the songs you want and double-tap the selection, music 
starts playing in order that you may enjoy the outdoors in the sun, the 
wind, the rain or whatever smile.


That's a very basic rundown of how the whoe setup works.

As far as charging the drive? Yes, it takes about 2 hours to charge with 
the supplied AC adapter, it can be used whilst charging.


When the drive is connected directly via its USB 3.0 connection to a 
computer no charging takes place.


Hope this helps, I'll be happy to anser any further questions on this 
drive etc if required.


On 14/10/2014 10:35 AM, Jeremy wrote:
I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a 
wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the ability 
to have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty sweet. Is it 
possible to make a wireless connection to the hd directly, or does it 
require a router? Also, how about running/charging this little monster 
from a car's cigarette plug for power?

Take care.

On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active 
all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you 
don't?


On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de 
wrote:



Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from 
that,
you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you 
have to
set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive for 
example.




-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can get
rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes 
library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so 
any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I
detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the 
Skyshare Drive

and

started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you 
said is

very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my files
with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 player
or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer
and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives plus
having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough music
to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I
usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
involves other ways of compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth

Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and 
not a tech type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated 
stuff.


I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually 
this is my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years 
old - is now showing its age so time to buy a second.


The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little 
thicker than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.


The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports, 
Firewire, SD Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on 
but the really great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech 
Specs sheet - is the HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight 
into my Denon AVR2113 AV Receiver and associated TV.


Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will 
be able to access the machine over my Network and this includes my 
TV/Video Tuner box which can be used by everything from Windows Media 
Center on my PC'S to my iPhone etc.


So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the 
understated remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.






Re: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Mac Norins
Sounds like flat out bragging to me!  Why don't you ever show people how to 
use this stuff instead of bragging about it?  That's not flaming, Dane, it 
is a valid question, because you always tell us about all of the great toys 
that you have and never, ever, to my limited knowledge, teach anyone how to 
use this stuff.  If this gets me kicked off of the list, so be it, but, you 
have some answering to do, don't you?


Mac

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Mac Mini Arrived

Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and
not a tech type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated
stuff.

I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually
this is my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years
old - is now showing its age so time to buy a second.

The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little
thicker than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.

The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports,
Firewire, SD Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on
but the really great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech
Specs sheet - is the HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight
into my Denon AVR2113 AV Receiver and associated TV.

Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will
be able to access the machine over my Network and this includes my
TV/Video Tuner box which can be used by everything from Windows Media
Center on my PC'S to my iPhone etc.

So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the
understated remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.





RE: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Hamit Campos
Super epic Dain!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Mac Mini Arrived

Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and not a 
tech type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated stuff.

I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually this is 
my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years old - is now 
showing its age so time to buy a second.

The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little thicker 
than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.

The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports, Firewire, SD 
Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on but the really 
great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech Specs sheet - is the 
HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight into my Denon AVR2113 AV 
Receiver and associated TV.

Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will be able 
to access the machine over my Network and this includes my TV/Video Tuner box 
which can be used by everything from Windows Media Center on my PC'S to my 
iPhone etc.

So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the 
understated remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.







Re: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
Don't say that until I've got everything up and running smile, I'm 
well on the way though.


I'm going to install the latest version of Windows and run it alongside 
OSX using Vmware Fusion, the machine has 16GB of memory so there's more 
than enough to go round.


On 14/10/2014 2:01 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Super epic Dain!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Mac Mini Arrived

Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and not a tech 
type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated stuff.

I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually this is 
my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years old - is now 
showing its age so time to buy a second.

The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little thicker 
than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.

The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports, Firewire, SD 
Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on but the really 
great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech Specs sheet - is the 
HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight into my Denon AVR2113 AV 
Receiver and associated TV.

Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will be able 
to access the machine over my Network and this includes my TV/Video Tuner box 
which can be used by everything from Windows Media Center on my PC'S to my 
iPhone etc.

So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the understated 
remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.










Re: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

No answering whatever particularly for those who don't need it.

On 14/10/2014 1:59 PM, Mac Norins wrote:
Sounds like flat out bragging to me!  Why don't you ever show people 
how to use this stuff instead of bragging about it?  That's not 
flaming, Dane, it is a valid question, because you always tell us 
about all of the great toys that you have and never, ever, to my 
limited knowledge, teach anyone how to use this stuff.  If this gets 
me kicked off of the list, so be it, but, you have some answering to 
do, don't you?


Mac

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Mac Mini Arrived

Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and
not a tech type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated
stuff.

I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually
this is my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years
old - is now showing its age so time to buy a second.

The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little
thicker than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.

The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports,
Firewire, SD Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on
but the really great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech
Specs sheet - is the HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight
into my Denon AVR2113 AV Receiver and associated TV.

Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will
be able to access the machine over my Network and this includes my
TV/Video Tuner box which can be used by everything from Windows Media
Center on my PC'S to my iPhone etc.

So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the
understated remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.








Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Jeremy
Ah, excellent. Only other thing I can think of is would it be possible 
to charge/power the drive outside of your home, either from a cars 
cigarette adapter or something similar? Thinking mostly of the 6 or so 
hour charge time you mentioned before, thinking it'd be pretty neat to 
take this on some of our longer road trips.

Not sure if you've been able to explore that far with it though.
Thank you, and take care.
Blessings.

On 10/13/2014 8:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

The Skyshare HD connects directly to your Wi-Fi of your iPhone so 
let's run a scenario past the list so as better to explain how it all 
works.


You're sitting on a park bench with iPhone and Skyshare drive in tow.

You wish to listen to some music so you reach for your Skyshare and 
press the power button, hold for a second or so to make sure Drive is 
switched on, you'll feel the drive power up.


Return the drive to your bag, pocket or whatever.

Next unlock your iPhone and proceed to settings, go to Wi-Fi and 
select the Skyshare Wi-Fi network, enter a password where applicable 
and double-tap on join.


Note that if you've previously joined your Skyshare drive's Wi-Fi, 
entered the Password and have Join Networks Automatically enabled 
under the Wi-Fi Settings of your iPhone then your iPhone will 
automatically join Skyshare as soon as it detects the Drive can be 
accessed.


Next from your iPhone launch your favourite Player App, find Skyshare 
and open the Music folder, browse to the songs you want or use the 
buttons to select the songs you want and double-tap the selection, 
music starts playing in order that you may enjoy the outdoors in the 
sun, the wind, the rain or whatever smile.


That's a very basic rundown of how the whoe setup works.

As far as charging the drive? Yes, it takes about 2 hours to charge 
with the supplied AC adapter, it can be used whilst charging.


When the drive is connected directly via its USB 3.0 connection to a 
computer no charging takes place.


Hope this helps, I'll be happy to anser any further questions on this 
drive etc if required.


On 14/10/2014 10:35 AM, Jeremy wrote:
I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a 
wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the ability 
to have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty sweet. Is 
it possible to make a wireless connection to the hd directly, or does 
it require a router? Also, how about running/charging this little 
monster from a car's cigarette plug for power?

Take care.

On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active 
all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you 
don't?


On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de 
wrote:



Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from 
that,
you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you 
have to
set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive for 
example.




-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can 
get

rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes 
library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so 
any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I
detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the 
Skyshare Drive

and
started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone 
or at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you 
said is

very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my 
files

with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 
player

or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my computer
and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives 
plus

having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough 
music

to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which I
usually don't and 

RE: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah you are tway too funny man. So what you are going to put Win 8.1 on it or 
are you going to go on the edge and try Win 10? Though I don't think Win 10 has 
WMC. Not what's out at least. I hope they don't kill WMC it was super epic.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Mac Mini Arrived

Don't say that until I've got everything up and running smile, I'm well on 
the way though.

I'm going to install the latest version of Windows and run it alongside OSX 
using Vmware Fusion, the machine has 16GB of memory so there's more than enough 
to go round.

On 14/10/2014 2:01 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
 Super epic Dain!

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:29 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Mac Mini Arrived

 Okay, I have my new Mac Mini.

 I won't go into the machine in huge detail as this is an audio list and not a 
 tech type list smile so just the uadio highlights and associated stuff.

 I guess I should explain why I want a Mac Mini machine? Well actually this is 
 my second Mac Mini machine, the first one I bought - at 5 years old - is now 
 showing its age so time to buy a second.

 The Newer Mac Mini machine is even smaller than the first, a little thicker 
 than a single CD case and about the same size otherwise,.

 The machine offers plenty of room for expansion, 4 USB 3.0 ports, Firewire, 
 SD Card Slot, Bluetooth 4.0, Full Wi-Fi Capabilities and so on but the really 
 great advance for me - apart from the outstanding Tech Specs sheet - is the 
 HDMI output so the Mac Mini will connect straight into my Denon AVR2113 AV 
 Receiver and associated TV.

 Yep, I plan to use the Mac Mini as a Media hub, most other things will be 
 able to access the machine over my Network and this includes my TV/Video 
 Tuner box which can be used by everything from Windows Media Center on my 
 PC'S to my iPhone etc.

 So to say that the next few days will be a busy few would amount to the 
 understated remark of the year, Flat-Out would be a better term.











Re: Mac Mini Arrived

2014-10-13 Thread Mac Norins
Pretty vague answer.  I just called you on your USA number.  Maybe we should 
talk, so that you can make some time for helping out those of us who ' need 
it ' ?


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:13 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Mac Mini Arrived

No answering whatever particularly for those who don't need it.

On 14/10/2014 1:59 PM, Mac Norins wrote:
Sounds like flat out bragging to me!  Why don't you ever show people how 
to use this stuff instead of bragging about it?  That's not flaming, Dane, 
it is a valid question, because you always tell us about all of the great 
toys that you have and never, ever, to my limited knowledge, teach anyone 
how to use this stuff.  If this gets me kicked off of the list, so be it, 
but, you have some answering to do, don't you?


Mac






Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
You could do that certainly, you'll need a cigarette lighter to USB 
adapter, a lead then goes from that into the power socket of the drive.



On 14/10/2014 3:19 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Ah, excellent. Only other thing I can think of is would it be possible 
to charge/power the drive outside of your home, either from a cars 
cigarette adapter or something similar? Thinking mostly of the 6 or so 
hour charge time you mentioned before, thinking it'd be pretty neat to 
take this on some of our longer road trips.

Not sure if you've been able to explore that far with it though.
Thank you, and take care.
Blessings.

On 10/13/2014 8:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

The Skyshare HD connects directly to your Wi-Fi of your iPhone so 
let's run a scenario past the list so as better to explain how it all 
works.


You're sitting on a park bench with iPhone and Skyshare drive in tow.

You wish to listen to some music so you reach for your Skyshare and 
press the power button, hold for a second or so to make sure Drive is 
switched on, you'll feel the drive power up.


Return the drive to your bag, pocket or whatever.

Next unlock your iPhone and proceed to settings, go to Wi-Fi and 
select the Skyshare Wi-Fi network, enter a password where applicable 
and double-tap on join.


Note that if you've previously joined your Skyshare drive's Wi-Fi, 
entered the Password and have Join Networks Automatically enabled 
under the Wi-Fi Settings of your iPhone then your iPhone will 
automatically join Skyshare as soon as it detects the Drive can be 
accessed.


Next from your iPhone launch your favourite Player App, find Skyshare 
and open the Music folder, browse to the songs you want or use the 
buttons to select the songs you want and double-tap the selection, 
music starts playing in order that you may enjoy the outdoors in the 
sun, the wind, the rain or whatever smile.


That's a very basic rundown of how the whoe setup works.

As far as charging the drive? Yes, it takes about 2 hours to charge 
with the supplied AC adapter, it can be used whilst charging.


When the drive is connected directly via its USB 3.0 connection to a 
computer no charging takes place.


Hope this helps, I'll be happy to anser any further questions on this 
drive etc if required.


On 14/10/2014 10:35 AM, Jeremy wrote:
I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a 
wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the 
ability to have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty 
sweet. Is it possible to make a wireless connection to the hd 
directly, or does it require a router? Also, how about 
running/charging this little monster from a car's cigarette plug for 
power?

Take care.

On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections 
active all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile 
device if you don't?


On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer 
al.gruena...@gmx.de wrote:



Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart 
from that,
you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that you 
have to
set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd drive 
for example.




-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane

Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some 
can get

rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes 
library of
Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match 
so any IOS

or
device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I 
may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I
detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the 
Skyshare Drive

and
started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone 
or at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you 
said is

very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my 
files

with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies more
knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3 
player
or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my 
computer
and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd drives 
plus

having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing 
music

with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. 
buying an

app 

RE: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
True, but what I meant was that you are dependent on them and they aren't as
reliable as say a flash card or a cable connection.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:44 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active all
 the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you don't?
 
 On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
 wrote:
 
  Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
  complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
  that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
  you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd
 drive for example.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
  get rather complex as you've said.
 
  I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library
  of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so
  any IOS
  or
  device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may
  enjoy
  my collection at any time, so far so good.
 
  As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
  solution as I
  detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the Skyshare
  Drive
  and
  started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
  at
  least
  have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.
 
 
  On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
  Hi Dane,
 
  I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said
  is very interesting and of course true.
  The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
  files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
  more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3
  player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my
  computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd
  drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a
 smartphone.
 
  So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
  with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
  accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
  app here and a hard drive there.
  I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
  music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which
  I usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
  involves other ways of compromising. Smiles
 
  Take care
  Alexandra
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  Hi!
 
  I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
  reasons,
  the
  main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth
  says that its impossible! to play third party content such as
  different audio
  file
  formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
  This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s
  “Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as
  every operating system with its built-in features does have its
  limitations, you cannot -
  as far
  as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
  unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring
  to the same type
  of
  problem but with different operating systems.
 
  The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter
  available
  from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your
  computer over a USB connection to a particular folder on your
  iPhone of your choosing
  but
  again, there are ways around that snag.
 
  Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on
  what can
  be
  done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
  The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
  one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two,
  oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.
 
  With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox
  account, computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device
  and so on, when configured you can then select what files you wish
  to hear or
  view.
 
  Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network
  and want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both
  the aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from
  a 

RE: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Sorry, if I've missed this, but how large is it in sice? Is it an ssd  drive
or a - whatever the old spinning discs are called? How much storage space
has it got?
Thanks.
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:02 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 Hi!
 
 The Skyshare HD connects directly to your Wi-Fi of your iPhone so let's
run a
 scenario past the list so as better to explain how it all works.
 
 You're sitting on a park bench with iPhone and Skyshare drive in tow.
 
 You wish to listen to some music so you reach for your Skyshare and press
 the power button, hold for a second or so to make sure Drive is switched
on,
 you'll feel the drive power up.
 
 Return the drive to your bag, pocket or whatever.
 
 Next unlock your iPhone and proceed to settings, go to Wi-Fi and select
the
 Skyshare Wi-Fi network, enter a password where applicable and double-tap
 on join.
 
 Note that if you've previously joined your Skyshare drive's Wi-Fi, entered
 the Password and have Join Networks Automatically enabled under the Wi-
 Fi Settings of your iPhone then your iPhone will automatically join
Skyshare
 as soon as it detects the Drive can be accessed.
 
 Next from your iPhone launch your favourite Player App, find Skyshare and
 open the Music folder, browse to the songs you want or use the buttons to
 select the songs you want and double-tap the selection, music starts
playing
 in order that you may enjoy the outdoors in the sun, the wind, the rain or
 whatever smile.
 
 That's a very basic rundown of how the whoe setup works.
 
 As far as charging the drive? Yes, it takes about 2 hours to charge with
the
 supplied AC adapter, it can be used whilst charging.
 
 When the drive is connected directly via its USB 3.0 connection to a
 computer no charging takes place.
 
 Hope this helps, I'll be happy to anser any further questions on this
drive etc
 if required.
 
 On 14/10/2014 10:35 AM, Jeremy wrote:
  I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a
  wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the ability
  to have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty sweet. Is it
  possible to make a wireless connection to the hd directly, or does it
  require a router? Also, how about running/charging this little monster
  from a car's cigarette plug for power?
  Take care.
 
  On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
  No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active
  all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you
  don't?
 
  On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
  wrote:
 
  Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
  complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
  that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
  you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an
  sd drive for example.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
  get rather complex as you've said.
 
  I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes
  library of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my
  iTunes match so any IOS
  or
  device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
  may
  enjoy
  my collection at any time, so far so good.
 
  As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
  solution as I
  detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the
  Skyshare Drive
  and
  started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
  at
  least
  have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.
 
 
  On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
  Hi Dane,
 
  I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you
  said is very interesting and of course true.
  The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
  files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
  more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another
  mp3 player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug
  into my computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert
  large sd drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at
least
 with a smartphone.
 
  So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing
  music with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll
  have to accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e.
  buying an app here and a hard drive there.
  I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
  music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
I have a 1TB version and there's a 500GB version, think there's a 2TB 
version.


On 14/10/2014 3:20 PM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Sorry, if I've missed this, but how large is it in sice? Is it an ssd  drive
or a - whatever the old spinning discs are called? How much storage space
has it got?
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

The Skyshare HD connects directly to your Wi-Fi of your iPhone so let's

run a

scenario past the list so as better to explain how it all works.

You're sitting on a park bench with iPhone and Skyshare drive in tow.

You wish to listen to some music so you reach for your Skyshare and press
the power button, hold for a second or so to make sure Drive is switched

on,

you'll feel the drive power up.

Return the drive to your bag, pocket or whatever.

Next unlock your iPhone and proceed to settings, go to Wi-Fi and select

the

Skyshare Wi-Fi network, enter a password where applicable and double-tap
on join.

Note that if you've previously joined your Skyshare drive's Wi-Fi, entered
the Password and have Join Networks Automatically enabled under the Wi-
Fi Settings of your iPhone then your iPhone will automatically join

Skyshare

as soon as it detects the Drive can be accessed.

Next from your iPhone launch your favourite Player App, find Skyshare and
open the Music folder, browse to the songs you want or use the buttons to
select the songs you want and double-tap the selection, music starts

playing

in order that you may enjoy the outdoors in the sun, the wind, the rain or
whatever smile.

That's a very basic rundown of how the whoe setup works.

As far as charging the drive? Yes, it takes about 2 hours to charge with

the

supplied AC adapter, it can be used whilst charging.

When the drive is connected directly via its USB 3.0 connection to a
computer no charging takes place.

Hope this helps, I'll be happy to anser any further questions on this

drive etc

if required.

On 14/10/2014 10:35 AM, Jeremy wrote:

I'd probably normally not like having to always be attached to a
wireless device, in order to stream my media from it, but the ability
to have that wireless device run from a battery is pretty sweet. Is it
possible to make a wireless connection to the hd directly, or does it
require a router? Also, how about running/charging this little monster
from a car's cigarette plug for power?
Take care.

On 10/13/2014 4:44 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active
all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you
don't?

On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
wrote:


Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an
sd drive for example.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
get rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes
library of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my
iTunes match so any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I

detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the
Skyshare Drive

and

started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you
said is very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another
mp3 player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug
into my computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert
large sd drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at

least

with a smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing
music with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll
have to accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e.
buying an app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone
which I 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan

No pleasing some people smile.

On 14/10/2014 3:20 PM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

True, but what I meant was that you are dependent on them and they aren't as
reliable as say a flash card or a cable connection.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active all
the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you don't?

On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
wrote:


Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an sd

drive for example.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
get rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes library
of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my iTunes match so
any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I

detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the Skyshare
Drive

and

started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you said
is very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another mp3
player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug into my
computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert large sd
drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at least with a

smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing music
with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll have to
accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e. buying an
app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone which
I usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk Pocket, which
involves other ways of compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the myth
says that its impossible! to play third party content such as
different audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the iPhone’s
“Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big issue as
every operating system with its built-in features does have its
limitations, you cannot -

as far

as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re referring
to the same type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available

from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your
computer over a USB connection to a particular folder on your
iPhone of your choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on
what can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on two,
oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names suggest.

With both you can set up remote locations such as a Dropbox
account, computer on a local or remote network, UPNP/DLNA device
and so on, when configured you can then select what files you wish
to hear or

view.

Now supposing you want to take your iPhone away from any network
and want your favourite music to accompany you? No problem as both
the aforementioned Apps will allow you to download your Music from
a specific point - computer, Dropbox account etc - right to a
folder on your iPhone where you can browse, play 

Alarm Sound on my IPhone 4s working unreliably

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Hope this isn't OT, but has to do with audio:

I sometimes have the problem that my IPhone alarm doesn't go off, especially
when it's charging. The swich for sound is turned on and the alarm is on,
telling me when I check that it is turned to slumber.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
It is pretty annoying since I like the alarm, but find it unreliable.

Any help would be appreciated a lot.
Alexandra




RE: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Got me there, but only when it comes to discussing IPhones. smiles back.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:38 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
 No pleasing some people smile.
 
 On 14/10/2014 3:20 PM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
  True, but what I meant was that you are dependent on them and they
  aren't as reliable as say a flash card or a cable connection.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:44 PM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active
  all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you
 don't?
 
  On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
  wrote:
 
  Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
  complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
  that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
  you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an
  sd
  drive for example.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
  Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
  get rather complex as you've said.
 
  I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes
  library of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my
  iTunes match so any IOS
  or
  device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
  may
  enjoy
  my collection at any time, so far so good.
 
  As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party
  solution as I
  detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the
  Skyshare Drive
  and
  started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
  at
  least
  have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.
 
 
  On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:
  Hi Dane,
 
  I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you
  said is very interesting and of course true.
  The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
  files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
  more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another
  mp3 player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug
  into my computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert
  large sd drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at
  least with a
  smartphone.
  So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing
  music with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll
  have to accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e.
  buying an app here and a hard drive there.
  I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
  music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone
  which I usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk
  Pocket, which involves other ways of compromising. Smiles
 
  Take care
  Alexandra
  -Original Message-
  From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
  Of Dane Trethowan
  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device
 
  Hi!
 
  I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
  reasons,
  the
  main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the
  myth says that its impossible! to play third party content such
  as different audio
  file
  formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.
 
  This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the
  iPhone’s “Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big
  issue as every operating system with its built-in features does
  have its limitations, you cannot -
  as far
  as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
  unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re
  referring to the same type
  of
  problem but with different operating systems.
 
  The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter
  available
  from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your
  computer over a USB connection to a particular folder on your
  iPhone of your choosing
  but
  again, there are ways around that snag.
 
  Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on
  what can
  be
  done so let’s do that with IOS.
 
  The first App you’ll need is a Player and there are several good
  one’s out there but for the sake of simplicity let’s focus on
  two, oOplayer and File Browser, both do exactly what their names
 suggest.
 
  With both 

Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

2014-10-13 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yeah okay well I'm not quite sure what you mean by patchy Wireless? If 
you're talkign about celll coverage then you're one up on me and when I 
spoke about Wireless I was referring to Wi-Fi meaning the phone's Wi-Fi 
connectivity being able to connect to the Skyshare Hard Drive, nothing 
whatever to do with cell networks smile



On 14/10/2014 3:51 PM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Got me there, but only when it comes to discussing IPhones. smiles back.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 6:38 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

No pleasing some people smile.

On 14/10/2014 3:20 PM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

True, but what I meant was that you are dependent on them and they
aren't as reliable as say a flash card or a cable connection.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 11:44 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

No one said anything was easy and having wireless connections active
all the time? Well what's the point of having a mobile device if you

don't?

On 14 Oct 2014, at 4:02 am, Alexandra Grünauer al.gruena...@gmx.de
wrote:


Yeah, but that still doesn't make things easy. It'll all remain more
complicated with the IPhone than with other devices and, apart from
that, you always have to have some kind of wireless connection that
you have to set up and that kan be more easily interrupted than an
sd

drive for example.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 6:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

There are wyas and means to do all sorts of things though some can
get rather complex as you've said.

I'm not an iTunes user by default though I do have an iTunes
library of Favorites, that's in the Cloud and available on my
iTunes match so any IOS

or

device with iTuens installed can take advantage of the Match so I
may

enjoy

my collection at any time, so far so good.

As I'm using FLAC files more regularly I had to find a third party

solution as I

detailed in my original eMail on this thread thus I got the
Skyshare Drive

and

started playing with other Apps to get that music onto my iPhone or
at

least

have access to it so I needen't bother with iTunes.


On 14/10/2014 3:19 AM, Alexandra Grünauer wrote:

Hi Dane,

I'm replying to your initial email on purpose because what you
said is very interesting and of course true.
The point for me isn't though that it isn't possible to play my
files with the IPhone, but that it's more complicated or implies
more knowledge of hardware and software than with, say, another
mp3 player or mobile phone or smartphone. This I can just plug
into my computer and copy the files to the device or I can insert
large sd drives plus having the possibilities you mentioned, at
least with a

smartphone.

So I think it's rather like this: If you compromise to playing
music with a non-jailbreaked--or is it broken?--IPhone, you'll
have to accept the more tedious ways of moving around things, i.e.
buying an app here and a hard drive there.
I for my part use the amazon cloud player which gives me enough
music to listen to whenever I feel like doing so on the IPhone
which I usually don't and play all the rest with my Plextalk
Pocket, which involves other ways of compromising. Smiles

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 2:36 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Playing Your! Files On An IOS Device

Hi!

I’ve decided to post an eMail on this subject for a variety of
reasons,

the

main being that there seems to be a myth doing the rounds, the
myth says that its impossible! to play third party content such
as different audio

file

formats etc on an iPhone or other IOS devices.

This is - to a major extent - true if you’re using say the
iPhone’s “Music Player” App. This - to me at least - is not a big
issue as every operating system with its built-in features does
have its limitations, you cannot -

as far

as I know - play FLAC files in Windows Media Player for example
unless you use a third party plug-in so essentially we’re
referring to the same type

of

problem but with different operating systems.

The other annoyance with IOS is that - unless you have an adapter

available

from Apple - you cannot copy your music files from say your
computer over a USB connection to a particular folder on your
iPhone of your choosing

but

again, there are ways around that snag.

Okay so its best not to focus on what can’t be done and focus on
what can

be

done so let’s do that with IOS.

The first App you’ll need is a Player