Need to makeup some cds.

2014-12-02 Thread Carliss
Listers,

Please help me burn some cds. there a brother in the churdch that I atend
he's on a walker and he heard some of my christian music and would like to
have some, which I don't mind doing.  however, all my music is in MP3 format
and its been a very long time since I burned cds with windows media player
or the other tools in windows7, so, please if you will, give me a quicky
lesson? If I remember right, windows media player would change the format to
where it may be played on any michine? Thanks to all!

 

 

Carlisss



Re: Further nNotes On the Bowers And Wilkins Z2

2014-12-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Then comes a question.
Are they portable or is it a stationary system?
/A
 1 dec 2014 kl. 21:43 skrev Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net:
 
 Hi!
 
 I did an audio review on this product several weeks ago, I got the Z2 for a 
 Birthday present 6 weeks ago but - up until this morning - I really haven’t 
 had a chance to have a good listen to the product, I’ve been listening to the 
 Z2 system for the last 2 hours and have noticed a lot when it comes to the 
 quality of sound from this system.
 
 Firstly let me explain what I did.
 
 I have a Bowers And Wilkins A5 speaker system by my bed, this system is 
 striking in its clarity at the top and bottom ends, mid range sounds are 
 pleasantly noticeable.
 
 I swapped the A5 for the Z2 and here’s where the fun started.
 
 The a5 has 4 speaker drivers - a  inch and a 1 inch per channel - whereas the 
 Z2 only has 2 drivers - 1 3.5 inch full range per channel.
 
 The top end is still present as well as the mid range and bass however the 
 separation of instruments and vocals heard in striking thanks obviously to 
 the Digital Sound Processing and this really brings the Z2 to life.
 
 I think Mary stated on list yesterday that folks in the U.S. can get the Z2 
 for $149 from amazon? If that’s the case then I would certainly recommend 
 people investigate the Z2 speaker system, for its price its one of the best 
 speaker systems I’ve heard.
 
 Yes, I prefer the sound of the A5 given the distinguishing top and bottom 
 factors I mentioned earlier but I’d certainly settle for a Z2 if I didn’t 
 know the A5 existed, 2 words sum up the Z2 given what it is, “Truly 
 outstanding”.
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 




Re: new zep air

2014-12-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Yes that is correct.
Evry bose product has gone from the apple store even here in sweden.
Not a problem for me as i have a lot of other good stores here.
/A
 2 dec 2014 kl. 01:29 skrev Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net:
 
 Yes I know where you’re coming from here as I’ve seen the same myself.
 
 I’m going on the version I’ve seen at the Apple store which seems to have 
 some differences from the older one.
 
 The speaker - whilst retaining its classic Zeplin Air shape - appears to have 
 been redesigned to sound even better.
 
 The new version doesn’t seem to have a video out port.
 
 The new version of course has a Lightning Dock connector.
 
 Now it is also possible of course that Bowers And Wilkins are making a 
 specific version for Apple? That did cross my mind when I saw the lack of 
 information available.
 
 Now here’s something interesting I noticed on the Australian Apple Store and 
 I wonder if the Apple Store in the U.S. is the same, the Bose speakers - 
 everything from computer speakers to Soundlink - seem to have disappeared 
 from the Speakers Accessaries pages, wonder what’s going on there.
 
 
 On 2 Dec 2014, at 11:15 am, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I am confused about the zeppelin air. I read there was suppose to be a
 new version. I've been to the BW site and they of course do mention
 the Air. On amazon, though, I can't tell which version is being sold.
 There are a lot of reviews, and some of them seem cleearly to refer to
 an older version, given the dates associated with them. So how can you
 tell the difference between the two when looking on line?
 
 Mary
 
 
 
 




Re: new zep air

2014-12-02 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Depends on how much money you have of course.
I can’t because my situation is not that good.
Even though i can buy me things i really want.
/A 
 2 dec 2014 kl. 03:25 skrev Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net:
 
 Yes, the review is very much typical of what one would expect from just about 
 any Bowers And Wilkins product these days, I’m trying to decide what my next 
 purchase from BW will be, will I get a Zeplin Air, a T7 or just upgrade my 
 A5 to an A7, the A7 is going to take a while to get due to its hefty price 
 tag but probably very much well worth it, plenty to think about and drool 
 over smile.
 
 On 2 Dec 2014, at 12:01 pm, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Here is a relatively recent review of the new Zeppelin Air, according
 to which, the only difference between the two versions is the lightning
 connector in the new one. This review says the new Zep has the
 composite video out, just like the old one.
 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430095,00.asp
 
 
 
 




RE: Need to makeup some cds.

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Bernard
Good morning Carlis,
Its quite simple actually. All you have to do is the following:
1. Insert a blank cdr disk into the cd/dvd drive of your computer. If you
get a message  that asks you what you want the computer to do, just press
alt f 4 to close this window.
2. Now start up windows explorer by pressing windows key and the letter E.
Once open, arrow up and down through the list of drives and folders until
you find the folder where your mp3 files are located and press tab to open
it.
3. select everything in that folder by pressing control A then press control
c to copy them to the clipboard.
4. Press shift-tab to close this window and arrow down to the burner drive,
and press tab to open that drive.
5. Now, press control V to paste everything in.
6. Press the applications key to bring up the context menu and press T. This
will bring up the burn wizard. You'll be asked to name the cd. The default
name will be the current date unless you decide to give the cd a different
name. 
7. Then tab to the next button and press it.
8. A new window will come up asking you if you want to make an audio cd, or
a data cd. Windows Media Player is normally set to audio cd by default. If
it isn't, then use your arrow keys to navigate to the audio cd option. Then
press tab until you get to next and press enter or press spacebar.
9. At this point, Windows media player itself will open.
10. The easiest way to get to the start burn button, is to shift tab 9
times. Once you find the burn button, press spacebar and wait. Do not do
anything until you hear the cd drive's moter stop and the cd ejects. Once
the cd is done burning, you can press alt f 4 to close Windows Media Player.
You should then see an icon on your screen called audio cd E or something
similar. Once you find this icon, press the applications key again and press
F. You will then see a message that asks you to confirm that you want to
remove the files from the temporary area where they had been placed prior to
burning the cd. Either tab to the yes button or press alt Y. This will clear
the burn list. Now your cd is ready for your friend to play in his cd
player, just like a store-bought cd. Hope this helps. Hope you have a nice
Christmas and Happy New Year.
Mike
Rochester, NY.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 7:45 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Need to makeup some cds.

Listers,

Please help me burn some cds. there a brother in the churdch that I atend
he's on a walker and he heard some of my christian music and would like to
have some, which I don't mind doing.  however, all my music is in MP3 format
and its been a very long time since I burned cds with windows media player
or the other tools in windows7, so, please if you will, give me a quicky
lesson? If I remember right, windows media player would change the format to
where it may be played on any michine? Thanks to all!

 

 

Carlisss





Adboe Audition 5.5, Mairlist and Window-Eyes

2014-12-02 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Hello everyone, 

I am thinking about doing a radio course in a few months, and the station
use Adobe Audition 5.5 on their editing machines, and Mairlist as their
playout system.  I was wondering how accessible these 2 pieces of software
are for use with Window-Eyes?  

 

Regards, 

 

Samuel Wilkins

 



RE: Need to makeup some cds.

2014-12-02 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
To burn regular audio CDs I use Starburn, which is free.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:45 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Need to makeup some cds.

Listers,

Please help me burn some cds. there a brother in the churdch that I atend
he's on a walker and he heard some of my christian music and would like to
have some, which I don't mind doing.  however, all my music is in MP3 format
and its been a very long time since I burned cds with windows media player
or the other tools in windows7, so, please if you will, give me a quicky
lesson? If I remember right, windows media player would change the format to
where it may be played on any michine? Thanks to all!

 

 

Carlisss




RE: Need to makeup some cds.

2014-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
Question:  Do these instructions work with WMP 12?  From what I've seen,
Windows Media 12 is different (and to my way of thinking) not as accessible
as Windows Media 11!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Humberto
Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Need to makeup some cds.

To burn regular audio CDs I use Starburn, which is free.

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Carliss
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:45 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Need to makeup some cds.

Listers,

Please help me burn some cds. there a brother in the churdch that I atend
he's on a walker and he heard some of my christian music and would like to
have some, which I don't mind doing.  however, all my music is in MP3 format
and its been a very long time since I burned cds with windows media player
or the other tools in windows7, so, please if you will, give me a quicky
lesson? If I remember right, windows media player would change the format to
where it may be played on any michine? Thanks to all!

 

 

Carlisss





Re: Further nNotes On the Bowers And Wilkins Z2

2014-12-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
The Z2 is portable in that its compact enough to move around however it doesn’t 
have its own rechargeable battery, runs on AC Power only.

 On 3 Dec 2014, at 1:29 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Then comes a question.
 Are they portable or is it a stationary system?
 /A
 1 dec 2014 kl. 21:43 skrev Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net:
 
 Hi!
 
 I did an audio review on this product several weeks ago, I got the Z2 for a 
 Birthday present 6 weeks ago but - up until this morning - I really haven’t 
 had a chance to have a good listen to the product, I’ve been listening to 
 the Z2 system for the last 2 hours and have noticed a lot when it comes to 
 the quality of sound from this system.
 
 Firstly let me explain what I did.
 
 I have a Bowers And Wilkins A5 speaker system by my bed, this system is 
 striking in its clarity at the top and bottom ends, mid range sounds are 
 pleasantly noticeable.
 
 I swapped the A5 for the Z2 and here’s where the fun started.
 
 The a5 has 4 speaker drivers - a  inch and a 1 inch per channel - whereas 
 the Z2 only has 2 drivers - 1 3.5 inch full range per channel.
 
 The top end is still present as well as the mid range and bass however the 
 separation of instruments and vocals heard in striking thanks obviously to 
 the Digital Sound Processing and this really brings the Z2 to life.
 
 I think Mary stated on list yesterday that folks in the U.S. can get the Z2 
 for $149 from amazon? If that’s the case then I would certainly recommend 
 people investigate the Z2 speaker system, for its price its one of the best 
 speaker systems I’ve heard.
 
 Yes, I prefer the sound of the A5 given the distinguishing top and bottom 
 factors I mentioned earlier but I’d certainly settle for a Z2 if I didn’t 
 know the A5 existed, 2 words sum up the Z2 given what it is, “Truly 
 outstanding”.
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 grtd...@internode.on.net
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Tom

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo




Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Aidan
What about mail man, or is this list currently there? I'm asking as
I'm not sure but I find them working well. I don't mind free lists
though.

On 03/12/2014, Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote:
 Ladies and gentlemen,

 The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
 expire at the end of December. The list software has been
 problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
 people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
 list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
 trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
 don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
 but the support just has not been very good.

 I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

 t...@pc-audio.org

 Thank you.

 Tom Dimeo





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Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Gerardo Corripio

 Sure! Freelist for me sounds great!

El 02/12/2014 04:27 p.m., Tom escribió:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo




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Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Thomas
I think moving to free lists would be a good idea

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 2, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Tom t...@pc-audio.org wrote:
 
 Ladies and gentlemen,
 
 The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
 expire at the end of December. The list software has been
 problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
 people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
 list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
 trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
 don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
 but the support just has not been very good.
 
 I'm open to thoughts and opinions.
 
 t...@pc-audio.org
 
 Thank you.
 
 Tom Dimeo
 
 



Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak

Honestly, Tom?
I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on 
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your 
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain 
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost 
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well, 
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way. 
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and 
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long 
as you like. But please...no freelists.

On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo







Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Peter Scanlon
What is the problem with Freelists from your point of view?


From: Nick Giannak 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
 I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on 
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your 
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain 
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost 
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well, 
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way. 
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and 
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long 
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:
 Ladies and gentlemen,

 The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
 expire at the end of December. The list software has been
 problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
 people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
 list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
 trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
 don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
 but the support just has not been very good.

 I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

 t...@pc-audio.org

 Thank you.

 Tom Dimeo





Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Chris Skarstad
Nick is 100% right.  Although, I'm hearing some not-so-good 
things about dreamhost of late, maybe they've improoved, this was quite 
a while back.  I've also stopped dealing with ultrahosts, though, they 
were ok for a while and then they stopped working and have been nothing 
but problematic ever since.  Either way the pc-audio list is a valuable 
resource so please keep it around if possible.



On 12/2/2014 5:55 PM, Nick Giannak wrote:

Honestly, Tom?
I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on 
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host 
your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The 
domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my 
DreamHost hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and 
unlimited...well, everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how 
you like it that way. Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, 
host your domain there and use Google Groups on said domain, and have 
rock solid lists for as long as you like. But please...no freelists.

On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo











Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread john s

Tom, free list sounds good.

earlier, Tom, wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo



John




Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread John Heath
I hope the list remains! It is a great source for information and 
interesting comments; please keep it, wherever it resides!
- Original Message - 
From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:27 PM
Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List



Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo







Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Mary Otten
I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can
remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for
accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that wonderful. That's
from the point of view of an end user. I have no idea what it is like
for a manager.

Mary 




Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread randy tijerina

did I miss something here? how do I subscribe to this list?
At 06:13 PM 12/2/2014, you wrote:

I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can
remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for
accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that wonderful. That's
from the point of view of an end user. I have no idea what it is like
for a manager.

Mary






Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Charles Krugman
Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought that at 
one point there were challenges for screen reader users who were moderatinhg 
or establishing groups using Googlegroups.

Chuck

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Giannak

Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well,
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way.
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo







RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Hamit Campos
I guess if the place where it's at isn't working, then yeah. To free lists
it must go. Blind cool Tech had theirs there. I thought from what everyone
has been saying you were going to kill it off. To which I'd say oh no don't
do that. This list is so epic! It's very helpful too.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end
of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not
sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages
to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash
etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for
the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been
very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo






Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Peter Scanlon
I too vote for Freelists. Please don’t close the list.
and as for using Twitter or Facebook for this sort of group, please don’t go 
that way.

P.


From: Hamit Campos 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 11:33 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

I guess if the place where it's at isn't working, then yeah. To free lists
it must go. Blind cool Tech had theirs there. I thought from what everyone
has been saying you were going to kill it off. To which I'd say oh no don't
do that. This list is so epic! It's very helpful too.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 5:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will expire at the end
of December. The list software has been problematic for over a year. Not
sending messages to some people, not allowing some people to send messages
to the list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of trash
etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I don't mind paying for
the domain name and hosting of the list but the support just has not been
very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo





Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
I'd never heard of that, but it's not impossible. Something you can look 
at on your own, of course, before moving the domain.

On 12/2/2014 7:18 PM, Charles Krugman wrote:
Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought 
that at one point there were challenges for screen reader users who 
were moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups.

Chuck

-Original Message- From: Nick Giannak
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well,
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way.
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo










Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
DreamHost has had growing pains in the past. However, I can honestly say 
that getting an east coast datacenter was the best thing they ever did, 
because they could more effectively distribute their resources. I have 
become fond of DreamHost once again, and I've been with them since 2006. 
Even if not DH, other like hosts would be good, E.G. Site5. Just, don't 
blame Mailman for your problems...blame the guys running it. Bye bye, 
Ultrahost.

On 12/2/2014 6:11 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
Nick is 100% right.  Although, I'm hearing some not-so-good things 
about dreamhost of late, maybe they've improoved, this was quite a 
while back.  I've also stopped dealing with ultrahosts, though, they 
were ok for a while and then they stopped working and have been 
nothing but problematic ever since.  Either way the pc-audio list is a 
valuable resource so please keep it around if possible.



On 12/2/2014 5:55 PM, Nick Giannak wrote:

Honestly, Tom?
I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on 
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host 
your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The 
domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my 
DreamHost hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and 
unlimited...well, everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how 
you like it that way. Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, 
host your domain there and use Google Groups on said domain, and have 
rock solid lists for as long as you like. But please...no freelists.

On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo














Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Nick Giannak
The problem with Freelists from my point of view is the lack of control 
associated with it. Freelists is exactly that. A free service. You have 
no idea when it will suddenly go to crap, and then that's a waste of a 
list...and a new mailing address to remember because you've chosen to 
move some place else. The domain is just too valuable, and I'm honestly 
shocked that more hasn't been done with it.
If you moved to another webhost with mailman, there's transparency to 
the user. I firmly believe mailman is not at fault for the problems 
here. The webhost itself, on the other hand...

On 12/2/2014 6:02 PM, Peter Scanlon wrote:

What is the problem with Freelists from your point of view?


From: Nick Giannak
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:55 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
  I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well,
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way.
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo







RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Mike Bernard
Hello Tom,
When you say (freelists), are you referring to the freelists.org site where
the winamp mailing list and blind tech mailing lists are currently located?
If so, that actually wouldn't be too bad. Of course it would mean that we'd
have to re-signup for the list, but that's not any problem for me.
Mike
Rochester, NY. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 5:27 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo






RE: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Tom Kaufman
This is a good list, so whichever place it moves to, as long as my Outlook
2013 will deal with it, is fine by me; just let us know what we need to do!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 7:14 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

I'll join the others who have expressed the hope that this list can
remain. I hope you don't go to google groups; google's track record for
accessibility and ease of use is, well, not all that wonderful. That's
from the point of view of an end user. I have no idea what it is like
for a manager.

Mary 





Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread goshawk on horseback
yes, googlegroups has become more or less completely inaccessible for 
screenreader users, and it is extremely annoying.
I run a group there, and doing any moderating has become just about 
impossible, but at the same time, for the same reasons, I can't get to 
anything which would give me any of the info I need to look at moving that 
group to a more accessible platform either.

Simon


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Krugman ckrug...@sbcglobal.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List


Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought that at
one point there were challenges for screen reader users who were moderatinhg
or establishing groups using Googlegroups.
Chuck

-Original Message- 
From: Nick Giannak
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
 I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well,
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way.
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:
 Ladies and gentlemen,

 The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
 expire at the end of December. The list software has been
 problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
 people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
 list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
 trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
 don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
 but the support just has not been very good.

 I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

 t...@pc-audio.org

 Thank you.

 Tom Dimeo







Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Joe Giovanelli
Hi, Tom,

I see no problem with Freelists. I send and receive quite a few message from 
folks on that list.

I don't have much to say here most of the time, but I do say that your list is 
a valuable resource.

Joe Giovanelli

- Original Message -
From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 17:27
Subject: Future Of The PC Audio List



 Ladies and gentlemen,
 
 The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
 expire at the end of December. The list software has been
 problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
 people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
 list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
 trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
 don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
 but the support just has not been very good.
 
 I'm open to thoughts and opinions.
 
 t...@pc-audio.org
 
 Thank you.
 
 Tom Dimeo
 
 



Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Jed Barton

might as well, sounds good.

On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo







Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread covici
hostgator is also an option for hosting, I am not sure whether they have
mailman or not.

Nick Giannak n...@hkcradio.com wrote:

 Honestly, Tom?
 I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
 Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host
 your list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The
 domain is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my
 DreamHost hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and
 unlimited...well, everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how
 you like it that way. Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro,
 host your domain there and use Google Groups on said domain, and have
 rock solid lists for as long as you like. But please...no freelists.
 On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:
  Ladies and gentlemen,
 
  The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
  expire at the end of December. The list software has been
  problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
  people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
  list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
  trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
  don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
  but the support just has not been very good.
 
  I'm open to thoughts and opinions.
 
  t...@pc-audio.org
 
  Thank you.
 
  Tom Dimeo
 
 
 

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

2014-12-02 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all,
I have a group on Googlegroups. It's accessible but clunky to say the 
least. This is with NVDA.


On 03/12/2014 00:18, Charles Krugman wrote:

Did Google groups get their accessibility issues resolved? I thought
that at one point there were challenges for screen reader users who were
moderatinhg or establishing groups using Googlegroups.
Chuck

-Original Message- From: Nick Giannak
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 2:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future Of The PC Audio List

Honestly, Tom?
 I actually think it has something to do with your reliance on
Ultrahost more than anything else. I'd be more apt to have you host your
list's email somewhere else, before resorting to Freelists. The domain
is too good to waste as such. I can host pC-Audio on my DreamHost
hosting plan, as i have unlimited domains and unlimited...well,
everything. I won't charge you, and we can see how you like it that way.
Alternatively, subscribe to Google Apps pro, host your domain there and
use Google Groups on said domain, and have rock solid lists for as long
as you like. But please...no freelists.
On 12/2/2014 5:27 PM, Tom wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The hosting for the pc audio list and the domain name will
expire at the end of December. The list software has been
problematic for over a year. Not sending messages to some
people, not allowing some people to send messages to the
list, bouncing messages to valid e-mail addresses, a lot of
trash etc. I'm considering taking the list to free lists. I
don't mind paying for the domain name and hosting of the list
but the support just has not been very good.

I'm open to thoughts and opinions.

t...@pc-audio.org

Thank you.

Tom Dimeo