apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Mary Otten
Hi all,

I hope this is not out of bounds for this list. I have a 2nd generation
Apple tv, which is the first one to have had voice over available. It
is up to date. If I connect this apple tv to a tv via the hdmi cable,
voice over sounds through the tv's crappy speakers as expected, and it
is smooth, not choppy at all.

If, however, I do one of the following 2 scenarios, voice over is
choppy, with entire words often being missed. The words are always
those at the beginning of an utterance. Thus, if I focus on the word
movies, I might hear nothing, or I might just here the least hint of
the last vowel and the s. If I focus on a movie or song title,
sometimes, I hear the whole thing. Some times I get a piece of the last
word. 

Here are the scenarios where this occurs.

Connect the A tv to a tv via hdmi. Connect that same tv to a sound bar
via the supplied optical digital cable, as per the instructions for the
sound bar. Program audio through the sound bar is smooth and sounds
good. Voice over exhibits the symptoms described above.

Connect the apple tv to a tv with the hdmi cable. Connect digital
optical cable from the apple tv to the optical digital input of an a/v
receiver, which is connected to speakers in the room. Program audio is
fine. voice over audio has the problems described above. So it seems
that whenever the optical cable is involved, whether directly from the
A tv or from the tv to a sound bar, voice over is not usable. I can't
believe this is a widespread problem. Surely I'm not the only v/o user
who has used a digital optical cable with an A tv. But I've done it
with two different cables and with two different scenarios, so I'm
somewhat reluctant to go plunk down 90 or a hundred bucks, just to find
out there is an inherent flaw in the system, not just with my single
apple tv. I can't believe all the audio loving blind folks who use
these things have been satisfied listening to the programming through
universally crappy speakers that are a part of flat screen tvs.

Any advice here?

Mary




RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Rick Alfaro
Mary,

I'm not near my Apple TV right now, but if I'm not mistaken, there's an
audio setting in the settings menu somewhere. I believe that by default it
is set to auto. What happens if you set it to the optical out instead of
auto?



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 12:42 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: apple tv voice over audio problem

Hi all,

I hope this is not out of bounds for this list. I have a 2nd generation
Apple tv, which is the first one to have had voice over available. It
is up to date. If I connect this apple tv to a tv via the hdmi cable,
voice over sounds through the tv's crappy speakers as expected, and it
is smooth, not choppy at all.

If, however, I do one of the following 2 scenarios, voice over is
choppy, with entire words often being missed. The words are always
those at the beginning of an utterance. Thus, if I focus on the word
movies, I might hear nothing, or I might just here the least hint of
the last vowel and the s. If I focus on a movie or song title,
sometimes, I hear the whole thing. Some times I get a piece of the last
word. 

Here are the scenarios where this occurs.

Connect the A tv to a tv via hdmi. Connect that same tv to a sound bar
via the supplied optical digital cable, as per the instructions for the
sound bar. Program audio through the sound bar is smooth and sounds
good. Voice over exhibits the symptoms described above.

Connect the apple tv to a tv with the hdmi cable. Connect digital
optical cable from the apple tv to the optical digital input of an a/v
receiver, which is connected to speakers in the room. Program audio is
fine. voice over audio has the problems described above. So it seems
that whenever the optical cable is involved, whether directly from the
A tv or from the tv to a sound bar, voice over is not usable. I can't
believe this is a widespread problem. Surely I'm not the only v/o user
who has used a digital optical cable with an A tv. But I've done it
with two different cables and with two different scenarios, so I'm
somewhat reluctant to go plunk down 90 or a hundred bucks, just to find
out there is an inherent flaw in the system, not just with my single
apple tv. I can't believe all the audio loving blind folks who use
these things have been satisfied listening to the programming through
universally crappy speakers that are a part of flat screen tvs.

Any advice here?

Mary






RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Rick,
There is a cable person installing cable now, but I will certainly look
for that setting. You think it should matter, even if, in the current
scenario, the digital optical cable runs from the tv to the sound bar,
not from the apple tv to anything? I could certainly see how this could
affect a set up where the digital optical out on the A tv was running
to my a/v receiver. But why should it affect things when using the
sound bar set up? In any case, I'm going to try it when the cable
person leaves, but it seems weird.

Mary




RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Mary Otten
Somebody on another list suggested using the analog out on the tv to
the analog in on my sound bar to avoid this latency issue with the
digital optical cable from sound bar to tv. apple tv isn't the only
thing running into the tv. My husband has a blue ray, and we will have
cable. I have no idea if using the analog to analog would have an
impact on things other than possibly clearing up the v/o issue.
Thoughts? The sound bar is a Klipsch rb10.

Mary




RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I did look for something useful for audio in settings, but the
only thing there was auto or 16 bit. So we just connected an analog
stereo cable from the analog out on the tv to analog in on the sound
bar. And the v/o problem is solved. 
Somebody suggested that the latency problem is fixed in 3rd gen apple
tvs, but somebody else said no, so who knows? I don't know what the
differences are between the two generations, so will probably just
stick with this for now.

Mary




beginners help with youtube?

2014-12-23 Thread Dave McElroy
i have really never taken much interest in youtube but wonder if there is
any way of reasonably accessably searching an then downloading from it?
Thanks.




Re: beginners help with youtube?

2014-12-23 Thread Chris Skarstad

Hi
You can't really download from Youtube itself, it's mainly meant for 
watching videos, creating playlists and sharing them with social media.  
If you want to download the audio from it there are a few websites out 
there that'll do this. One is


http://www.youtube-mp3.org

it's a very simple site with an edit box for the link for the youtube 
video you want to download, a convert button and a few other basic 
links.  It's very fast, but the limitation is that it only converts 
videos that are less than 20 minutes long. If you want something longer 
than that, yes there are videos that are quite lengthy on youtube, the 
site you'll want to try is


http://www.ListenToYoutube.com

One important caviot about this site is that it sometimes likes to throw 
up a popup window that completely covers up the website, so to get rid 
of this, simply press control plus f4 and the popup window will close, 
but the website will stay open.  After it's converted your video, it'll 
have a link that says click here to get your download link, that's when 
the popup window might happen.  But on the resulting ppage, you'll find 
a button that says, click hhere to download.  it's a button so just keep 
that in mind.


I hope some of this helps.


On 12/23/2014 5:02 PM, Dave McElroy wrote:

i have really never taken much interest in youtube but wonder if there is
any way of reasonably accessably searching an then downloading from it?
Thanks.








RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

2014-12-23 Thread Rick Alfaro
Ahhh, sorry missed that part. Knowing that I'd say it probably has no affect
but I'd give it a shot anyhow. Wouldn't hurt. If it was running to the AV
receiver I'd say try game mode if your receiver had one but in the case of a
sound bar, I'm at a loss.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: apple tv voice over audio problem

Hi Rick,
There is a cable person installing cable now, but I will certainly look
for that setting. You think it should matter, even if, in the current
scenario, the digital optical cable runs from the tv to the sound bar,
not from the apple tv to anything? I could certainly see how this could
affect a set up where the digital optical out on the A tv was running
to my a/v receiver. But why should it affect things when using the
sound bar set up? In any case, I'm going to try it when the cable
person leaves, but it seems weird.

Mary






Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?

2014-12-23 Thread Robert Doc Wright
How does apple's aac compare  to mp3?
- Original Message - 
From: Steve Matzura numb...@noisynotes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: FLAC Files was Time To Purchase FLAC?


I had OPlayer on an Android tablet once and it was pretty darn neat.
Didn't know it was available for iOS.

Re VLC, it's a fine product, but its accessibility leaves more than a
little to be desired, in my unhumble opinion.

On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 08:46:07 +1100, you wrote:

You're not mistaken and that's just one App of at least half a dozen I can 
think of, I haven't played around with VLC lately so must have a look and 
see what improvements or changes have been made.

Another of my favourite players for IOS is something called oPlayer which 
is available in 2 versions, the free Light and the HD purchased version.

Speaking of VLC, if you're a Windows user then you're in for a real treat 
with this player, I use it both on Mac and Windows.
On 8 Oct 2014, at 8:36 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 Vlc for Iphone supports flac if i'm not misstaken.
 Its also quite easy to use with voiceover.
 /A

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