The Fire TV with VoiceView from Amazon: An Accessibility Review - AccessWorld® - September 2016

[Dane Trethowan]

Yet another nice set top box alternative which looks to be quite 
accessible according to the review linked to here, a few spots of bother 
but its early days and things can only get better one hopes.

https://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw170902

Re: Apple TV, how's it getting on?

[Dane Trethowan]

I must do some research on the Sonos connect, that might be a useful 
tool here too since I just don't fancy the stand-alone Sonos players 
around at the moment.



On 13/09/2016 10:19 PM, John Gurd wrote:

Hi Dane
I am embarrassed to say I have done very little with my Apple TV for some 
months. It kind of got overtaken by the Sonos Connect which I've been using to 
access my Apple Music account instead as I can also use it for Amazon Prime 
music too. To be honest I think it sounds better too.

I got a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with the Apple TV and still haven't got 
around to it. I think it's due a TVOS update so I'll make a point of 
reacquainting myself with it and let you know if there's anything of interest.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 13 September 2016 01:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Apple TV, how's it getting on?

Hi!

I know several list members own an Apple TV 4th gen so I'm curious to know how 
the Apple TV experience is coming along, have there been any major updates or 
changes?

I have an Android Neo box in my ounge which I really love but I am thinking of 
an Apple TV in the Den now where I have my old Samsung 19 inch TV so can just 
plug the Apple TV directly into that.

Re: Lossless Radi Streams

[Dane Trethowan]

Google is your friend .



On 14/09/2016 12:20 AM, Casey wrote:

Hi there is know link for these streams so how can we listen to them?
Or were you just letting us know that you can find these with google 
and encouraging us to look for these on our own.

Just asking is all.

Re: Recording internet streams on the Iphone.

[Dane Trethowan]

Remember that whatever you use to rewith form the Internet its most 
likely you wn't be able to move or copy the recorded file from your 
iPhone due to the limitations Apple have in place.




On 14/09/2016 3:33 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
No.
Will do that.
/A

On 13 Sep 2016, at 01:38, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Have you tried oOtunes?



On 13/09/2016 2:35 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Since i’ve been both a heavy Iphone and Ipad user i am looking for any program 
that records internet streams.
There’s TuneIn Radio but it wont record a saved show from the swedish Radio nor 
will Vlc.
So are there other options out there for recording from the Internet to the 
Iphone/Ipad.

/A

RE: Memory cards for the old PTRs

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay. Yeah I do like the crispness of the PTR1 but yes I will agree it's 
pretty lifeless and shallow. No bass at all. Lol Now with the PTR2 it's 
reversed, good fullness good bass and what not but the mike is terrible. It's 
muffeled and sounds like when you cup youer hand over your mouth or something. 
But never mind you could always use a Stereo mike with it. Or should I say can? 
As the PTR2 is still being sold.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I can’t remember right now but there was not enough quality for recording 
things as good as i intended.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 23:45, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Ah what did you not like about the PTR1? I was really looking for cards in 
> 2011 for a PTR2 I was hoping to get from a friend but sadly he couldn't find 
> it. Yeah the 2 is better in that it can use Stereo mikes. So had Justin been 
> able to give me his and had I a card that it liked I'd be using my AT 8022 
> with it. I liked the R1 for what it was but yeah once you discover stereo you 
> want everything in stereo. So there's that.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs
> 
> Hi!
> I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
> wasn’t so good.
> So its just a dust collector for me too.
> I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
> I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
> /A
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
>> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
>> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
>> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
>> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold.
>> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
>> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
>> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
>> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it 
>> so dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The 
>> Marance PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh 
>> are you serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened 
>> to the podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me 
>> though but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical 
>> question for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have 
>> the PTR1 it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why 
>> not use it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY 
>> CDs.
>> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also 
>> just nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just 
>> wandering what people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing 
>> or hell if there are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd 
>> use the CDS perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't 
>> feel CDs are worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh 
>> yeah I still buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but 
>> that's about all.
>> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged 
>> my trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Memory cards for the old PTRs

[Hamit Campos]

Ah I see. I was also asking Vicky. Cause she said she used hers all the time. 
But thanks for your answer. Cause I was gonna ask if you wanted to cell the 
card or give it away. Because see that's just what I was basically curious 
about. Is there any hope for these things. Lol I mean it's maddening you can't 
trust no one. Lol. I mean in who knows whom you can trust to make cards that 
these things like. To make matters worse even my last card Ihad that my R1 
corrupted someone at IRTI told me that if the 1 hated it so would the PTR2.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I had one but its lost.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 23:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> So do you have a card for it or are you suggesting you never used it at all?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Anders Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs
> 
> Hi!
> I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
> wasn’t so good.
> So its just a dust collector for me too.
> I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
> I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
> /A
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
>> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
>> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
>> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
>> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold.
>> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
>> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
>> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
>> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it 
>> so dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The 
>> Marance PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh 
>> are you serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened 
>> to the podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me 
>> though but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical 
>> question for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have 
>> the PTR1 it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why 
>> not use it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY 
>> CDs.
>> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also 
>> just nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just 
>> wandering what people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing 
>> or hell if there are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd 
>> use the CDS perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't 
>> feel CDs are worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh 
>> yeah I still buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but 
>> that's about all.
>> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged 
>> my trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: Daisy Player

[Tim Grady]

The problem with all of these players for US customers is that they are not 
supported by the national library service, so they would be of limitted use 
here.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.


On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop players, 
> Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer software 
> players.
>
> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>
> Portable players
>
> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
> players have these common features:
> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text 
> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice 
> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>
> Milestone
>
> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
> right button every time.
>
> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
> easiest to use portable players.
>
> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a clock, 
> timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders by adding 
> Milestone Agenda software.
>
> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
> for items around your home and office.
>
> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>
> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>
> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts to 
> menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The ability 
> to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. You can 
> add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate the 
> audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons and 
> white with black buttons.
>
> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>
> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>
> BookSense
>
> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense range 
> all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>
> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>
> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has 
> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your 
> music and books using wireless headphones.
>
> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory but 
> also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well defined, 
> tactile buttons.
>
> Blaze ET & EZ
>
> New Victor Reader Stream
>
> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards and 
> is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well defined 
> and raised tactile buttons.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Andrea Sherry
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:02 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Daisy Player
>
> Need a suggestion for a new player which is not the Victor Reader Stream.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
>

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now 
and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad

RE: Daisy Player

[Tim Grady]

Oh, now that sounds just like an Apple device.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:17 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Daisy Player

Yeah, I went through that situation too!
I did buy another as it is a great device.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 9:06 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

Andrea Sherry doesn't like the Victor as it is currently in need of repair.  I 
am informed that the repairs could cost as much as the device originally cost 
me less than 2 years ago.


On 12/09/2016 8:27 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
> And I wonder why Andrea Sherry doesn't like the Victor. I find it perfect.
>
> P.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 1:38 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>
> Daisy Players? I haven't used one of those things in a damn long time.
>
> Now before everyone gets upset I should point out that my view is only a 
> personal one and everyone's circumstances are different.
>
> I get all my books these days from Apple's iBooks or I buy from Google or 
> Amazon, I wonder where we'd be without those publishing houses, yep they're 
> not perfect as we've discussed here but they do open the doors to a whole 
> heap of information we never had before.
>
> Daisy titles usually come from library's? That's fine if you like that sort 
> of thing but if I want to read a title that's just come onto the market? Well 
> I frown upon the idea of having to wait 6 months just to read it.
>
>
>
> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop 
>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer 
>> software players.
>>
>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-
>> b ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>
>> Portable players
>>
>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
>> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
>> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
>> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
>> players have these common features:
>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text 
>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a 
>> choice of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone 
>> jack
>>
>> Milestone
>>
>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
>> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
>> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
>> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
>> right button every time.
>>
>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
>> easiest to use portable players.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a 
>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders 
>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
>> for items around your home and office.
>>
>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
>> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>
>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>
>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
>> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts 
>> to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The 
>> ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. 
>> You can add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate 
>> the audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons 
>> and white with black buttons.
>>
>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>
>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>
>> BookSense
>>
>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
>> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense 
>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
>> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>>
>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key 

RE: Daisy Player

[Tim Grady]

Works most of the time,unlike the Iphone, which seems to have some problem 
whenever there is a major update or new build.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:30 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

If and when it works .

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:16 AM, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I went through that situation too!
> I did buy another as it is a great device.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Andrea Sherry
> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 9:06 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
> 
> Andrea Sherry doesn't like the Victor as it is currently in need of repair.  
> I am informed that the repairs could cost as much as the device originally 
> cost me less than 2 years ago.
> 
> 
> On 12/09/2016 8:27 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>> And I wonder why Andrea Sherry doesn't like the Victor. I find it perfect.
>> 
>> P.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 1:38 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>> 
>> Daisy Players? I haven't used one of those things in a damn long time.
>> 
>> Now before everyone gets upset I should point out that my view is only a 
>> personal one and everyone's circumstances are different.
>> 
>> I get all my books these days from Apple's iBooks or I buy from Google or 
>> Amazon, I wonder where we'd be without those publishing houses, yep they're 
>> not perfect as we've discussed here but they do open the doors to a whole 
>> heap of information we never had before.
>> 
>> Daisy titles usually come from library's? That's fine if you like that sort 
>> of thing but if I want to read a title that's just come onto the market? 
>> Well I frown upon the idea of having to wait 6 months just to read it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
>>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop 
>>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer 
>>> software players.
>>> 
>>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio
>>> - b ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>> 
>>> Portable players
>>> 
>>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
>>> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
>>> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
>>> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
>>> players have these common features:
>>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text 
>>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a 
>>> choice of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone 
>>> jack
>>> 
>>> Milestone
>>> 
>>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. 
>>> There are three different models but all feature the same simple layout 
>>> with five buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a 
>>> mode button on the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help 
>>> ensure you hit the right button every time.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
>>> easiest to use portable players.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a 
>>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders 
>>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>> 
>>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice 
>>> labels for items around your home and office.
>>> 
>>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with 
>>> the optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>> 
>>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>> 
>>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
>>> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts 
>>> to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The 
>>> ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. 
>>> You can add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily 
>>> navigate the audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with 
>>> white buttons and white with black buttons.
>>> 
>>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>> 
>>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
>>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>> 
>>> BookSense
>>> 
>>> The BookSense is 

Re: Recording internet streams on the Iphone.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No.
Will do that.
/A
> On 13 Sep 2016, at 01:38, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried oOtunes?
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/09/2016 2:35 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Since i’ve been both a heavy Iphone and Ipad user i am looking for any 
>> program that records internet streams.
>> There’s TuneIn Radio but it wont record a saved show from the swedish Radio 
>> nor will Vlc.
>> So are there other options out there for recording from the Internet to the 
>> Iphone/Ipad.
>> 
>> /A
> 
> 

Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I can’t remember right now but there was not enough quality for recording 
things as good as i intended.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 23:45, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Ah what did you not like about the PTR1? I was really looking for cards in 
> 2011 for a PTR2 I was hoping to get from a friend but sadly he couldn't find 
> it. Yeah the 2 is better in that it can use Stereo mikes. So had Justin been 
> able to give me his and had I a card that it liked I'd be using my AT 8022 
> with it. I liked the R1 for what it was but yeah once you discover stereo you 
> want everything in stereo. So there's that.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
> Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs
> 
> Hi!
> I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
> wasn’t so good.
> So its just a dust collector for me too.
> I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
> I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
> /A
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
>> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
>> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
>> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
>> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold. 
>> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
>> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
>> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
>> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so 
>> dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance 
>> PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you 
>> serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the 
>> podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though 
>> but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical question 
>> for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have the PTR1 
>> it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why not use 
>> it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY CDs. 
>> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also just 
>> nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just wandering what 
>> people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or hell if there 
>> are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS 
>> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are 
>> worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still 
>> buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about 
>> all.
>> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my 
>> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I had one but its lost.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 23:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> So do you have a card for it or are you suggesting you never used it at all?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
> Holmberg
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs
> 
> Hi!
> I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
> wasn’t so good.
> So its just a dust collector for me too.
> I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
> I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
> /A
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
>> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
>> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
>> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
>> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold. 
>> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
>> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
>> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
>> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so 
>> dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance 
>> PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you 
>> serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the 
>> podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though 
>> but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical question 
>> for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have the PTR1 
>> it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why not use 
>> it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY CDs. 
>> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also just 
>> nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just wandering what 
>> people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or hell if there 
>> are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS 
>> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are 
>> worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still 
>> buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about 
>> all.
>> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my 
>> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Lossless Radi Streams

[Casey]

Hi there is know link for these streams so how can we listen to them?
Or were you just letting us know that you can find these with google and 
encouraging us to look for these on our own.

Just asking is all.


--
Casey

RE: Apple TV, how's it getting on?

[John Gurd]

Hi Dane
I am embarrassed to say I have done very little with my Apple TV for some 
months. It kind of got overtaken by the Sonos Connect which I've been using to 
access my Apple Music account instead as I can also use it for Amazon Prime 
music too. To be honest I think it sounds better too. 

I got a Bluetooth keyboard to pair with the Apple TV and still haven't got 
around to it. I think it's due a TVOS update so I'll make a point of 
reacquainting myself with it and let you know if there's anything of interest.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 13 September 2016 01:56
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Apple TV, how's it getting on?

Hi!

I know several list members own an Apple TV 4th gen so I'm curious to know how 
the Apple TV experience is coming along, have there been any major updates or 
changes?

I have an Android Neo box in my ounge which I really love but I am thinking of 
an Apple TV in the Den now where I have my old Samsung 19 inch TV so can just 
plug the Apple TV directly into that.

Lossless Radi Streams

[Dane Trethowan]

Okay I’ve been using Google to find Lossless audio streams from radio stations 
- FLAC in particular - and I’m surprised how many I found.
Some are mainstream stations whilst others are Internet only but all! I tried - 
without exception - are of excellent audio quality.
Note that you’ll need a pretty decent dose of Band width to hear these streams 
without dropout or delay.
As I said, consult Google and enjoy!

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.